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It Ends With Us - Team Ryle or Team Atlas? (OLD OPINION, SEE MY FIRST COMMENT BEFORE POSTING PLEASE)

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message 151: by river.。*♡ (new)

river.。*♡ | 13 comments atlas obviously.. if you prefer ryle im sorry to inform you but there is something seriously wrong with you


carissa ✩°。⋆⸜ 🎧✮ | 71 comments team atlas because why would you like ryle??🤔🫠


🎀Aya (Taylor’s version) 🎀 | 8 comments Atlas it’s obvious bc he’s sweet, kind, he cook like a god and Ryle was violent and toxic there is no way I would prefer him from Atlas


message 154: by Camryn (new)

Camryn Higgins | 10 comments is this a real question


message 155: by Kathi (new)

Kathi Engel | 14 comments Hated Ryle from page 1


message 156: by Loisyy (new)

Loisyy | 7 comments Team Atlas cos why nottt


message 157: by jana (new)

jana | 7 comments Team atlas for sure!!


message 158: by Eva (new)

Eva | 9 comments 100000% team atlas


message 159: by Megan (new)

Megan | 21 comments Atlas definitely :)


Maria 📚🐦‍🔥💛✨🧚🏻‍♀️ (mariasagdalen) | 61 comments bro that cant even be a question, atlas 100%


message 161: by sophie (new)

sophie stachurski | 13 comments 1000% Atlas is overall a better man for anybody, but knowing if I was Lily (and since i’ve been in a similar situation) i would stay with Ryle. but i HATE HATE HATE ryle.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE???


message 162: by Eliane (new)

Eliane | 6 comments Ryle is a psycho lol. I didn’t care much for atlas, I mean he’s sweet but he was just kinda there for me. + 18 and 15 IS a weird age gap, even if the book says it’s not.


JJ (✨Taylor’s Version✨) | 4 comments Atlas for sure .


bec ∘⁠˚⁠˳⁠°⁠。⁠☆ (violetcarstairs) | 19 comments why is this even a question-


message 165: by Ty (new)

Ty | 3 comments Atlas, I was mentally attracted to him and his actions


message 166: by angie (new)

angie | 129 comments the only answer is Atlas… there’s no explanation needed


message 167: by kyla (new)

kyla foster | 2 comments atlas. always. no question.


message 168: by mady (new)

mady | 71 comments ryle was abusive … obviously team atlas


message 169: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 11 comments TEAM ATLAS ALL THE WAY!! I have very strong feelings against Ryle


message 170: by ❀ viktoria ❀ (new)

❀ viktoria ❀ | 78 comments atlas!


message 171: by ♡jewels♡ (new)

♡jewels♡ | 34 comments ryle was abusive, so team atlas!!


message 172: by aaliya (new)

aaliya khan | 18 comments i was team ryle during the entire book of it ends with us, and after i finished it until i read it starts with us. it changed my opinion and i'm team atlas <33. but its not realistic though, there's not always a prince charming right when youre out of a traumatic marriage.


message 173: by aaliya (new)

aaliya khan | 18 comments sammy wrote: "atlas obvi. but like if, and this is a big ‘if’, if ryle had some major character development and went to therapy i might have to pick him. please don’t hate me for this"
agreed.


message 174: by Annursina (new)

Annursina ꨄ | 73 comments Team Atlas because Ryle abused Lily and that says everything. But at the beginning of the book I would have been Team Ryle.


message 175: by aimee❄ (new)

aimee❄ (aimmee) | 8 comments Team Atlas all the wayyyy! Ryle may have been a dreamy kind of guy at first but when he shows his true colours, he seems to be the person we least expected him to be but Atlas? Atlas showed his loyalty and kindness throughout the yearssss


message 176: by aaliya (new)

aaliya khan | 18 comments tbh the reason why people were team ryle in it ends with us was bc we didn't get enough of atlas. the story wasn't about atlas and lily, it was about lily dealing/escaping a a traumatic marriage. atlas wasn't the main charecter and we didn't get a lot of him. but yes, in the second he was the main charecter.


message 177: by aaliya (last edited Dec 28, 2022 05:15PM) (new)

aaliya khan | 18 comments Eliane wrote: "Ryle is a psycho lol. I didn’t care much for atlas, I mean he’s sweet but he was just kinda there for me. + 18 and 15 IS a weird age gap, even if the book says it’s not."

try 19 and 13 LOLL


kaden&#x1f3a7;ྀི ⋆·˚ ༘ * | 269 comments I said it already but imma say it again, ATLAS HAS MY HEART and I am literally scared of the ones that picked ryle....


message 179: by quinn (new)

quinn | 4 comments i'm only a few chapters in but #teamatlas


message 180: by Wika (new)

Wika | 15 comments atlas is almost too perfect lmao


message 181: by Naiah♡ (new)

Naiah♡ (kmarkovsimp) | 89 comments Team Ryle....to me Altlas was romantic but he was also very basic yes I've read both books....I identify with Ryle to some extent personally....he was never really helped imo and I felt like everyone who read this just focused on the romance aspect of the book... he needed therapy and they should've ALL (Alyssa and her husband and their parents*i forgot his name*) rallied around him to help him get help....they isolated him and blamed him when he needed people to lean on...if they suggested therapy for him from IEWU and gave him that as his only option he could've been better in ISWU... also atlas over did it too much in book 2 for me (and he's a lil overhyped imo) bringing up Ryle's every mistake at every moment....book 2 could've been different....Ryle could've been better he could've had help....it made me sad....bit yeah that's my take and my opinion....don't come at me


message 182: by Naiah♡ (new)

Naiah♡ (kmarkovsimp) | 89 comments yes I acknowledge Ryle is to be help accountable for the abuse and the anger and everything he did to lily and i do hold him accountable....I'm just saying


message 183: by adelaide (new)

adelaide OBVIOUSLY Atlas anyone who says Ryle needs mental help and hasn’t read the whole book


message 184: by aaliya (new)

aaliya khan | 18 comments Naiah♡ wrote: "Team Ryle....to me Altlas was romantic but he was also very basic yes I've read both books....I identify with Ryle to some extent personally....he was never really helped imo and I felt like everyo..."
yeah i definetley agree with you atlas is hyped, ryle would have been an option if he got therapy but again no one would be able to trust him like before


message 185: by Naiah♡ (new)

Naiah♡ (kmarkovsimp) | 89 comments adelaide (taylor’s version) wrote: "OBVIOUSLY Atlas anyone who says Ryle needs mental help and hasn’t read the whole book"
OBVIOUSLY there are persons who would see it from different aspects and would understand and interpret things differently from you, atlas isn't a saint, and he wasn't the only mmc for a reason.... stop trying to make them seem delusional or mentally unstable for having a difference of opinion, respect people FGS


message 186: by trixie !! (new)

trixie !! | 8 comments Atlas because, as the whole plot is, RYLE IS A ABUSIVE PAIN IN THE BUTT


message 187: by Anna (new)

Anna Shin | 35 comments team Atlas for sure


message 188: by abigailalex142 (new)

abigailalex142 (absbooks142) is there an answer other than atlas???


message 189: by R (new)

R | 56 comments team atlas <3


kaden&#x1f3a7;ྀི ⋆·˚ ༘ * | 269 comments uhm.... who would pick someone abusive, instead of someone who is gentle and loving?!?? anyways ATLAS


message 191: by Anne (last edited Dec 31, 2022 04:56AM) (new)

Anne (lecturagenda) 1. What kind of question is that? You're asking people to choose between an abusive man and a not abusive one? Really?

2. None. Ryle deserves jail (the fact that he doesn't end up in a cell is crazy to me) and Atlas is an unrealistically perfect, boring asf character. Plus, let's not forget that he slept with Lily when she was 15 and him 18 which despite not being jail-worthy, should be and is highly wrong.

AND you guys: this is not a love story. Stop making it sound like it is ffs.


message 192: by Anne (new)

Anne (lecturagenda) Naiah♡ wrote: "Team Ryle....to me Altlas was romantic but he was also very basic yes I've read both books....I identify with Ryle to some extent personally....he was never really helped imo and I felt like everyo..."

I will come at you. Traumas are no excuse to become an abusive husband. He hit her wife and tried to rape her but you prefer him over Atlas because you relate to him to some extent? Hear it loud and clear, I do not respect your opinion.

I as well find Ryle to be a lot more relatable than this unrealistically perfect Atlas bs, but I don't think you realise how damn wrong he is. He could go to jail.


message 193: by Anne (last edited Dec 31, 2022 04:52AM) (new)

Anne (lecturagenda) Rebecca ♡ wrote: "unpopular but Ryle- I acknowledge all his faults however I do feel like he never meant to harm lily, like he wasn't malicious about it he was just messed up a bit. also not enough was written about..."

mari wrote: "omg okay. i’m team ryle BUT LEMME EXPLAIN MYSELF

i don’t think any of the things he did is okay, whatsoever, but for me personally, i literally fell so in love w him. lily n his relationship was ..."


LMAO y'all are sick for real.

This is infuriating. "He was just messed up a bit"? "I fell in love with him"??? He is an ABUSER. The fact he never meant to hurt Lily doesn't change the fact that he hit her and tried to sexually abuse her. Get fucking helped.

Stop trying so hard to find a valid reason to appreciate Ryle, you know damn well there isn't any and that y'all are as disturbed as he is for saying such things. You clearly (thankfully) never went through such situations and I hope you never will because then, you would realise how stupid and insane the statements you just made are.

FYI Ryle's behaviour is jail-worthy. If even with this fact you guys don't get how deranged he is, you might as well be.

I don't think you people even realised that It Ends with Us is NOT a love story. This is the traumatic story of Lily. Y'all are either way too young and therefore don't have the necessary hindsight to understand this novel or you actually are stuck in your 15-year-old mindset. Damn morons.


message 194: by Anne (new)

Anne (lecturagenda) Meghna wrote: "there are NO teams. this is not a love triangle romance book, whatever. if there is a team, it's team Lily and that's that."

Thank you!!


message 195: by Anne (new)

Anne (lecturagenda) abbie wrote: "this should not be a question. like its actually offensive."

For real.


message 196: by Enie (new)

Enie P | 47 comments Atlas obviously


message 197: by eliska&#x1faf6; (new)

eliska&#x1faf6; | 3 comments the right answer is atlas of course


message 198: by Anne (last edited Dec 31, 2022 05:21AM) (new)

Anne (lecturagenda) Naiah♡ wrote: "saturn | she wrote: "Naiah♡ wrote: "Team Ryle....to me Altlas was romantic but he was also very basic yes I've read both books....I identify with Ryle to some extent personally....he was never real..."

What the hell is you talking about? Baddie? Medal? Are we eight graders?

The reason I get so angry and wound up by answers similar to yours is because having been raped during my entire damn childhood, I found your response offensive! (And ffs I am not looking for pity whatsoever, I can handle myself, just giving context that I think lacks here.) The fact that I attacked your opinion and you went straight for the person you think I am judging me by a few responses of mine to a group topic on Goodreads is laughable.

I genuinely give no shit wether I sound like an internet baddie or not. I get no satisfaction arguing with people, I'd much rather be agreeing with y'all because getting upset sucks the energy out of me but no one will speak my thoughts if not me. And I don't need no medal for disrespecting people's opinions (by the way I disrespect opinions that are morally wrong to me. Not the ones that I simply disagree with).

And if anything I am rather worried than satisfied. I have nothing to be satisfied of when I have to explain people how defending an abuser and a rapist is not okay (and here, I am not talking about your response but others').

It would be objectively incorrect to say that I did not miss the point of your response, I actually might have because those topics always trigger me therefore it is entirely possible. If that is the case, I apologise for that but I would also be lying if I said that I didn't find your initial comment to be wrong anymore.

Keep having fun seeing me beef with everyone else's responses because I am not nearly done doing so.


message 199: by Anne (last edited Dec 31, 2022 05:44AM) (new)

Anne (lecturagenda) Naiah♡ wrote: "frankly i didnt ask you anything about your childhood....also im not reading all that lol so yeah yeah whateveryou say...don't disrespect other people's opinions they have reasons for having that o..."

Well considering the fact that I did read and tried to comprehend your previous long and unstructured answers but you didn't take the time to do so with mine that is structured and in which I acknowledge my wrongs and therefore am being open-minded, I don't feel like being the disrespectful one right now. You're such a "baddie" for being so reckless!

"you're not judge nor jury just read the post and move on", funny how you took the time to answer another response you disagreed with instead of simply reading the post and moving on, though. Apply your own advice.

I don't care whether you read this one or not, at least I did take the time to hear you and get myself heard. Go on with the stick up your butt.

EDIT: By the way, you declared your point to be valid without ever re-considering it. I did re-consider mine after reading your answer to my response. But heh, I'm the close-minded one, huh?


message 200: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy Cokely | 2 comments EASY ATLAS, Ryle was so toxic is his own way and Atlas is just an amazing character, i hope that Ryle is lonely for the rest of his life. Ryle didn’t deserve any of Lilys time and she should’ve walked out after the first fight they got into.


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