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Brian | 1681 comments BRs are getting nuts. I’m so lost as to what I’m reading and when.


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Brian | 1681 comments Although I do love the start of the reading competition. Everyone starts off HOT and we devour pages quickly


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "My 2023 spreadsheet is 180 Buddy Reads, including all the In Death books, all the series we've agreed to, etc...

Still need to make the Laundry Files thread...

And my sheet is missing some stuff,..."


I would love to do that!!!


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "I'm fine with sticking with January, if everyone else is... it's a re-read, for me, so not very stressful, despite how crazy my Buddy Read list has become for 2023, already..."

I would stick with January, but feel free to move it if people get overwhelmed...


Nirkatze | 21040 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "We could do Hungry Dreaming next week... I assume everyone/Nirkatze will be done with St. Mary's by then... alot of us have BRs going on, but it's the best time to squeeze it in, I think, since Roy..."

3 hours left on St. Mary's #13... almost up to date... but then I'm two In Death behind, and Liveship Traderes, and want to try Quarter Share before the next 5 days... 4 days....

Most of the things I have scheduled for January aren't audio for me, so I'm fine with waiting for Jan too... either way.

I just filled in what I know for the upcoming year in my very first [BR Tracker]--not sure if I got everything though. :)


Nirkatze | 21040 comments St. Mary's #13--I swear that was a LotR reference. What about Second Breakfast? Elevenses? Afternoon Tea? Dinner? Supper? And the light snacks in between?


Nirkatze | 21040 comments St. Mary's #13--Chapter 40. "All right, hands up everybody who thought (view spoiler)?" *unrepentantly raises hand*


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Narilka | 5692 comments I will update my BR tracker eventually lol I'm waiting for the rush of BR scheduling to finish so I can go pick out what I'm joining :)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I totally thought that, Nirkatze!!!


Nirkatze | 21040 comments Choko wrote: "I totally thought that, Nirkatze!!!"

Hah! Glad I'm not alone!

Finished St. Mary's #13. I had a harder time focusing yesterday, but it still got a lot of laughs out of me. And the ending was *mwah*! I love a good comeuppance ending. So I'm finally caught up! Has anyone made a Time Police book club thread yet, I wonder?

I picked up Quarter Share today on @Iain's rec, and really enjoyed it. Part Military SF without the militant part, part economics satisfaction story. I liked the characters, and how Ish's addition to the crew set them on a growth journey. I think I'll go ahead and pick up Half Share since it's not too long and it goes off the Audible library on Tues. Then back to the Ironman Deathrace.


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Yay! The last three books all got 5 stars from me! They were awesome!!!

As far as the Time Police is concerned, I haven't seen anything ready around... I am ready to read them whenever everyone else is:))

Speaking of, I know this is the crazy season for everyone, but I haven't seen Emily lately. I hope she is Ok and just busy with the holidays...


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She's only made 6 comments since November 27th... and I didn't notice, because the rest of the group has been so hectic, lately :(


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Nirkatze wrote: "Choko wrote: "I totally thought that, Nirkatze!!!"

Hah! Glad I'm not alone!

Finished St. Mary's #13. I had a harder time focusing yesterday, but it still got a lot of laughs out of me. And the en..."


Nearly finished Half Share... one of the reviewers I follow calls these books Competence Porn... same term Mel used for that scene in Ocean's Echo where Surit was studying the strengths and weaknesses of his crew...

I definitely plan to continue with this series/author, with anything I can get my hands on...


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Nirkatze | 21040 comments Best wishes to Emily... but I am also no stranger to life getting busy and making comments tough...

Almost done with Half Share also... 2nd book I am finding very uncomfortable. It feels like a YA self-insertion harem fantasy and I pretty much feel like cringing through almost all of it... not sure I'll be able to sit through the last hour... been using the 30 second skip function fairly regularly. I enjoyed the slice-of-life realism competence aspects, I did not want to sit through hours of flirting, pick-up-lines, and women with low self-confidence being told how amazing they are by an 18 y/o... four women... jumped the shark for me.

@Iain, you'll have to tell me if the successive books continue more with the porn aspect than competence aspect--if it returns to book 1 style, I'd be willing to continue, but if it continues in book 2 style, this might be the first series I DNF with no intention of ever returning to.


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Happy to have some time to check back in on FBR! My new schedule has me a lot busier than usual.. I have some time off soon though so I hope I can catch up on some things!


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Timelord Iain wrote: Honestly, my sheet is so feature-rich, for my needs, that it would probably be useful to others, if they just copied my sheet and wiped the data and input their own, I think?."

I did this a while ago when you shared the sheet with me. I like it, but I'm quite bad at keeping up with things. I'll hyperfixate for a bit and then forget about it
I think someone needs to go in for and ADHD check 😅


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Excited for the Secret Projects as well for next year.. I may have splurged for the "year of Sanderson" since it came out near my birthday... I wonder what the merch is gonna be


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Nirkatze wrote: "I WANT TO READ EVERYTHING!

THIS so much.


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Alright will definitely read Wizard's Butler soon! I love slice of life...


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Middlegame is on sale... you guys should get it, if the price is right... Seanan McGuire standalone I really want you guys to read... then we can read the 2nd standalone in the same..."

Ditto to this! Loved Middlegame. Still need to read Seasonal Fears


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Nirkatze wrote: "St. Mary's #13--Chapter 40. "All right, hands up everybody who thought [spoilers removed]?" *unrepentantly raises hand*"

Haha same!


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Choko wrote: "Yay! The last three books all got 5 stars from me! They were awesome!!!

As far as the Time Police is concerned, I haven't seen anything ready around... I am ready to read them whenever everyone e..."


Thanks for thinking of me guys! Hopefully things settle down a bit for me :)


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Nirkatze wrote: "Best wishes to Emily... but I am also no stranger to life getting busy and making comments tough...

Almost done with Half Share also... 2nd book I am finding very uncomfortable. It feels like a YA..."


Maybe I just let it slide by... there were hints of it in book 1, when Ishmael was checking out the captain's calves in the sauna... it's a heavy wingman scenario... until that talk with Brill near the end...

I don't think anything happens between crewmates on-page... and I dunno how much focus is put on it in future books... I've skimmed alot of reviews/blurbs/wiki, and it looks like half the crew goes to college after the first trilogy, so they can become officers in military or do other things... during that time, Ishmael and Big Bad Bev hookup for awhile, but I think the 2nd trilogy picks up after college, with Ishmael a newbie officer...

Sounds like book 6 and 8 are less fun and bit more heavy/sad stuff happens (according to Bradley, the reviewer I follow that read these books)... he hasn't read book 9 yet... book 7 also mentions a dead lover, since something about her and maybe revenge, are what reunite Ishmael and Pip on a mission into unregulated Deep Space...

That's all I know... there's also a Shaman trilogy, which may be connected to Sarah?


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Reading A Mirror Mended, followup to A Spindle Splintered... I'm enjoying the short story, and not just for this gem:

"Like if a snake fucked a tarantula and the baby died in a tar pit and was later reanimated by a necromancer who graduated in the absolute bottom of it's class."...


Nirkatze | 21040 comments Tonari no Emily wrote: "Excited for the Secret Projects as well for next year.. I may have splurged for the "year of Sanderson" since it came out near my birthday... I wonder what the merch is gonna be"

Hah! I think I remember that. I also may or may not have splurged on the whole thing... no comment... and am very much looking forward to it!

Good to have you back and see you spamming all the boards, Emily!

I went ahead and picked up some more audible credits--apparently they're on sale for 15% off a regular bundle--and grabbed Wizard's Butler. Will probably pick it up when I get caught up with In Death.

And there goes Iain again, adding even more to our WANT TO READ EVERYTHING list... I want to read A Spindle Splintered too... and Middlegame... and that quote is great!


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Nirkatze wrote: "Tonari no Emily wrote: "Excited for the Secret Projects as well for next year.. I may have splurged for the "year of Sanderson" since it came out near my birthday... I wonder what the merch is gonn..."

I read Spindle Splintered at the start of the year, and then never got around to Mirror Mended, when it released... nice little fairytale multiverse about breaking the story loops...


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments I'll squeeze Wizard's Butler in somewhere...

There's a lot to unpack in that quote lol I'll need to get that one in too. I liked A Spindled Splintered a lot!


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Nirkatze | 21040 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Maybe I just let it slide by... there were hints of it in book 1, when Ishmael was checking out the captain's calves in the sauna... it's a heavy wingman scenario... until that talk with Brill near the end...."

I think there was only the one sex scene (which I fast forwarded through)--but there was so much magic butt mooning, and somehow everyone--all the women--had heart injuries that only Ish's magic butt could solve, and somehow this 18 year old was perfect, and had no problems or issues to work through, and was wise beyond his years, that it was just gag-worthy and completely unbelievable. It was so horribly YA emoesque and felt like a self-insertion fantasy, that it just popped me right out of the happy slice of life story. I guess I can overlook perfection in study or everyday life, but I could not take it when the story moved from there to polyamorous flirting.


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Reading A Mirror Mended, followup to A Spindle Splintered... I'm enjoying the short story, and not just for this gem:

"Like if a snake fucked a tarantula and the ba..."


My library had this one available so I just listened to that one yesterday! I rather liked the bitter-sweet ending. I remember enjoying A Spindle Splintered more though.

The narrative imposing on reality thing definitely reminds me of Seanan Mcguire's fairy tale series Indexing. That actually took me a minute to find the right book, she has sooo many and I could not remember the title...


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Tonari no Emily wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "Reading A Mirror Mended, followup to A Spindle Splintered... I'm enjoying the short story, and not just for this gem:

"Like if a snake fucked ..."


I liked the bittersweet ending, too... and the idea of narrative consequences... and the solution... but agree, the first book was more fun...

I see why Harrow is working on a new book for this year, unre;ated... Starling House

Also, Audible gave me another recommendation from Audible Plus that I'm gonna try... already downloaded... there's a 2nd book to the series, too: White Trash Warlock

And all book searching on the site is down... not just the add book button, but the search bar, too... so annoying, making book links manually...


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Actually, there are 3 White Trash Warlock books now... and there are 3 books listed for release in 2023/2024, and all of them sound pretty awesome... there's an M/M romance... one about a fledgling assassin infiltrating a school of elves and learning the building is alive... and another about a dude getting revenge on the people who killed the moon...


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I have these and plan on reading them eventually... Are we insane?! How the hell are we going to read all of those books?!?!?!


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Choko wrote: "I have these and plan on reading them eventually... Are we insane?! How the hell are we going to read all of those books?!?!?!"

I've definitely been feeling like mistakes were made, since making my 2023 BR list / spreadsheet... but I also don't want to cancel anything...


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Same here. Everything we have planned I want to read!!! I am not going to give up:))))


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Brian | 1681 comments Lol. I’m not sure when or how y’all are gonna keep up. My BR list for Jan and Feb is insane. My main goal is to finally finish Malazan this year tho.


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Great goal and you know we will totally support you!


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Nirkatze | 21040 comments SALLY FORTH AND GUNG HO BOOKLUBBERS! Full speed ahead, no looking back!

I also have White Trash Warlock on my TBR and I see first two are on Hoopla.... XD And I'm almost all caught up with In Death... XD


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Nirkatze wrote: "SALLY FORTH AND GUNG HO BOOKLUBBERS! Full speed ahead, no looking back!

I also have White Trash Warlock on my TBR and I see first two are on Hoopla.... XD And I'm almost all caught up with In Deat..."


No need to waste Hoopla credits... they're on Audible Plus until 2025...


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Nirkatze | 21040 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "No need to waste Hoopla credits... they're on Audible Plus until 2025......"

OOOH SHINY! Let me know if y'all start them...

And where did you get that date from? I didn't realize Audible told us until they were taking them away...


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Nirkatze wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "No need to waste Hoopla credits... they're on Audible Plus until 2025......"

OOOH SHINY! Let me know if y'all start them...

And where did you get that date from? I didn't re..."


I don't think it does on the website, but it does on the app, down near the publication date... that's how I found the book... it was on my home screen as a recommendation included in membership... and the title reminded me of White Trash Zombie...



EDIT: That image went super big, lol... so much bigger than my ipod...

EDIT EDIT: adding text below the image seems to have shrunk it to a reasonable size...


Nirkatze | 21040 comments Thank you for showing that!

Now if you know how to find the series & # in series on the app I will bow yet again to your amazing tech knowledge...


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Nirkatze wrote: "Thank you for showing that!

Now if you know how to find the series & # in series on the app I will bow yet again to your amazing tech knowledge..."


that, I don't know... the only place I've seen that accurately tracks series/number, is that screen that pops up in the last 30 seconds of an audiobook, asking you to rate/review, and if you want to continue to the next book in the series... when I'm searching in the app, I generally have to check release dates...

EDIT: You can view the rate and review popup from the menu options on a book... just hit the (...) button...


Nirkatze | 21040 comments Hah! I knew I could trust you to figure that out!

Started The Wizard's Butler--again, liking the slice of life aspects--and the magical skepticism, as Iain puts it.

It does make me wonder--if y'all were in a similar situation, faced with someone or something claiming magic, accompanied by good proper coincidences to support it, how much energy would you expend in denial? Or how easily would you be willing to believe?

I'd like to think I'm in the more gullible "I want to believe" category, but I can also have a stubborn streak, so I'd be curious myself.


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I would try to find a logical explanation to the end! I know myself and as much as I love fantasy and magic in my made-up world, in reality I am logic loving and explanation needing mere mortal... Very sad, really...


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Nirkatze | 21040 comments Choko wrote: "I would try to find a logical explanation to the end! I know myself and as much as I love fantasy and magic in my made-up world, in reality I am logic loving and explanation needing mere mortal... ..."

Not sad at all! It is good to know our own minds... I too love some good logic..

Sometimes I think of that Alice in Wonderland quote about believing six impossible things before breakfast. I don't really find it difficult to believe in things that are fundamentally opposite at the same time--truth is in the eye of the beholder, after all. I might want reasons and explanations, but I also don't believe that I already know everything, or that modern science knows everything yet. So I think I'd be open to the possibility of magic--but the biggest hurdle would be convincing myself to trust. Trust that I wasn't being conned by someone. I have a hard time trusting.


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Some people want to believe... others don't... I think I lean towards don't...

If something falls over/moves in another room, some people think ghost... and I might joke about it... but mentally, I know it's just gravity and physics... something wasn't secure, and it eventually fell over...


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Nirkatze, Iain just stated my mind set...

I converted to Judaism many years ago, because I just couldn't make myself believe in G-d the way Christianity was taught to me as a kid. I had way too many questions. I went to tens of churches and other religious institutions, and found myself a home in Reform Judaism, exactly because they teach that not "knowing" or believing is OK, and the search in an educated manner is more important than the destination... That freed me from all the hollowness I always felt around the blind belief which seems to come so easily to so many people. I honestly envy them, because they seem so certain about things, and I only have questions... Same with ghosts and so on... I don't believe we know everything, and I believe in higher power, I am just can't believe that we as humanity are smart enough to even imagine it... At least not yet... And I think we are way too eager to create our deities in our own image... Arrogant, if you ask me...


Nirkatze | 21040 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Some people want to believe... others don't... I think I lean towards don't...

If something falls over/moves in another room, some people think ghost... and I might joke about it... but mentally, ..."


Speaking of gravity and physics... the other day my house groaned (it does that) with a particularly loud bang, and all of a sudden one of the lights upstairs went out. Oh, I thought--must have blown a fuse or bulb or something--we've had some rather severe weather lately. But all the other lights upstairs were fine so... I go upstairs to have a look, and notice something a little strange.

The lamp is the kind with a floor-push switch--and there was a book lying on top of the switch. Turned out, when I'd moved some books a few weeks ago to plug in some new hanging lights behind the bookshelf, I'd propped a few books up on the edge of the shelf in such a way, that at exactly the right time and angle, they had fallen off and hit the switch, turning off the light...

Thankfully no fuses or lightbulbs were harmed in this operation!

I don't really believe in ghosts (though my mother swears I caused a poltergeist when I was a teenager, and even had an official exorcism--I think with a Native American shamanistic ritual and has some hair-raising stories of it), but I thanked coincidence and nature for such a fun thing happening on that day.


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Nirkatze | 21040 comments Choko wrote: "Nirkatze, Iain just stated my mind set...

I converted to Judaism many years ago, because I just couldn't make myself believe in G-d the way Christianity was taught to me as a kid. I had way too m..."


Your story really resonates with me. I have often felt similarly--that I cannot logically and conscientiously bring myself to join a religion or believe in a god, as much as I am envious of the community and closeness a religion brings... but any religion that shuts down questions is shutting out the best of humanity... big believer in "the only bad question is the one you don't ask."

Sometimes I think of myself as a spiritual Atheist. And a practical fantasist or idealistic realist.


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Nirkatze | 21040 comments In Chapter 8 of Wizard's Butler--I'm really enjoying the narration--especially the contrast between the military politeness of the MC, and the aristocratic old man voice of the wizard.

They're just installing internet, and now I'm envisioning the pixies going on a youtube splurge...

ooh new words! Interrobang! Octothorpe!


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