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Book Clubs! > Vagabond Treehouse (2023) [Beware of Chicken 3 - December 4th]

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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I tell you what, we need those fluffy, no huge steaks reads, because I just finished the Warded Man and the second of the Bel Dam series, and if I hadn't read the TTCW and Cytonic in between, I would have wanted to wallow in depression for ever! Great books, horrific worlds and horrible treatment of one human being to another... Thank goodness this is not our life! And when those horrible dystopian stories are well written and engrossing, you want more of them, but they are not good for the psyche overall, if they become our predominant reading diet:)))


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Liars!!!… Our reading “diet” is like 50% popcorn and candy reads… anything to stave off burnout ;)"

LOL That sounds like me regular diet too...

Choko wrote: "The Subtle Knife... Up to Ch. 6... This parallel world hopping is interesting. Lyra is still a child, trusting or mistrusting exactly the wrong people. I think she should have made it a rule, neve..."

Hit Chapter 6! (view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Choko wrote: "I tell you what, we need those fluffy, no huge steaks reads, because I just finished the Warded Man and the second of the Bel Dam series, and if I hadn't read the TTCW and Cytonic in between, I wou..."

Hear hear! On thing I will say though--I appreciate the fun light popcorny reads so much more when interspersed with the Grimdark. I look forward to the first of the month's Cradle read so so much--and I don't know if I'd appreciate them quite so much if I wasn't waiting so long and reading such darkness in between.


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Same exactly, Iain! I can't wait for the Cradle reads, and I appreciate them 100 times more because I wait for them and have other stuff to read in between! So happy we are reading the next one tomorrow:)))


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments The Subtle Knife... I enjoy it, and really liked Will, but it felt a bit discombobulated from the first book and even in its own structure. I love the witches, well, most of them, and I hate that (view spoiler)

I am looking forward to rounding up the series with you:)))


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Iain, I am halfway through the Pale Dog, and their reactions to the puppy are absolutely hilarious:))) I want to take it home and feed it steak too:)))


Nirkatze | 21041 comments You two are really making me want to read those books--I'll have to hit y'all up in a few years for the next reread. They look really cool.


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Liars!!!… Our reading “diet” is like 50% popcorn and candy reads… anything to stave off burnout ;)"

Ahem, what you talking, I like to think my book tastes are always Michelin star meals *Looks at "Read" shelf nervously*😅


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Emily wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "Liars!!!… Our reading “diet” is like 50% popcorn and candy reads… anything to stave off burnout ;)"

Ahem, what you talking, I like to think my book tastes are always Michelin..."


LOL. I won't tell if you don't. :)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Marla Mason#1... Up to Ch. 3 (view spoiler)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Forgot to mention, I enjoyed the Pale Dog and the Pride is an Engine. A bit rough for the Pride story, but I am intrigued by the way he has multiple versions of one story. A reader can kind of choose which one fits their vision of the characters the most...


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Nirkatze | 21041 comments Subtle Knife, Chapter 7--I see what you were talking about now, about Lyra being too trusting. (view spoiler)

Chapter 10. (view spoiler)

Chapter 13 (view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Subtle Knife Chapter 14 (view spoiler)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Marla Mason#1... Finished:) This was a very fast and cute listen:) I can see the changes in how the author has gone about telling Marla's stories. He had some darker vibes in the first drafts of the short stories, but here he has a bit of a lighter tone and definitely more fitting and pleasant to read. I really am enjoying Rando, who has come a long way from the small urchin boy with no jaw, to her besty at this point. Her experience with the cloak is also more controlled and les terrifying. It is still a powerful artifact, but it doesn't feel as evil as in the shorts.

Yep, the Emperor of San Francisco is definitely mentioned several times and I wonder what is the fascination with him the fantasy authors have. I have heard of him, I just don't know much about him, so I need to do some research...

The way the snake G-d and Marla talked to each other was awesome! I hate it that he didn't forgive her and is now her enemy for life. I liked her relationship with the old city magician and that he is going to tutor the actor on his abilities. Loved the sex talk and action of Rondo! You go, man!:))))

I am thinking about reading the second book right away. I already read 1.5, grander than the see... Another cute story! Love all the mental health issues the magic practitioners often deal with... I mean, I love that we have a place that deals with those... And as Rondo said, the doctor is kind of hot:)))


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Nirkatze, I think Aesahaettr is the knife, but you might be right and it could be Will or Lyra... They didn't even cross my mind for that... Either way, I hate that the final goal is to go fight on the side and under the leadership of Lord Asriel...


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Timelord Iain | 35332 comments Mod
Pale Dog and the fantasy world story were the best shorts, imo…


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Timelord Iain | 35332 comments Mod
Things were definitely adjusted some more in Marla Mason 1 vs the short stories… more retcons than progressions, I think… but for the betterment of the characters/story, too…

If you want to zoom, I’ll zoom with you…

This isn’t the end of multiverse shenanigans… can’t wait for you to meet some characters in Broken Mirror I think?… several other books to read in the meantime…


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Nirkatze | 21041 comments Choko wrote: "Nirkatze, I think Aesahaettr is the knife, but you might be right and it could be Will or Lyra... They didn't even cross my mind for that... Either way, I hate that the final goal is to go fight on..."

I just got to Chapter 15, and someone just confirmed Aesahaettr is the name of the knife.

But yeah, it's a bummer that so many people are lining up for Asriel. I do, however, like that it shows that the two sides aren't necessarily any different--the "good" rebellion is just as ruthless as the "bad" establishment. And that a cause can be worthy even if its leaders are not. It makes for great conflict and depth. I definitely look forward to the eventual reunion of Lyra and Asriel.


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Finished The Subtle Knife! (view spoiler)

I'm good to start book three whenever.


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments How does Tuesday sound, Nirkatze?


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Choko wrote: "How does Tuesday sound, Nirkatze?"

Sounds good!


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Started the next Middle Falls--Hart Tanner. Another character who is unlikeable at outset, and back to short lives. Chapter 6 (view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35332 comments Mod
Poison Sleep is my least favorite entry in the Marla Mason series... only 3 star I gave... I think it was (view spoiler)

Not quite done with my re-read, yet...


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Iain, Poison Sleep... I really enjoyed it! I get where you are coming from, about the (view spoiler)

Actually, the series so far have a bit of a Danny Faust vibe, which is a great thing in my eyes, since I love that series:))) This was a great idea to read, Iain! Thank you:)


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Timelord Iain | 35332 comments Mod
That's a core of the Marla Mason series... everyone's a threat... Nicolette, for sure... and others...

Elsie Jarrow is an interesting character (and unless she appears at the end of the book, you've only heard about her so far, and everyone being afraid of her chaos)... she's actually the author's second favorite character behind Marla... she'll appear more as the series progresses... for good or ill...

And the author is big into TV Tropes, so that will play a part in the story later on, too... playing on tropes, acknowledging they exist, etc...

Glad you're liking it... I really liked the series when I found it years ago... maybe it's why I like the Faust series so much, since I read them the other way around?... definitely another questionable hero type series...

Book 3 is a great entry in the series, and has far-reaching consequences...


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I am definitely enjoying quite a lot! I am planning on letting my Faust friends know about it, unless I am the last of the bunch to have heard of it, hahaha!


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It's a pretty niche book, with a dedicated-enough fanbase to turn a "failed" 4 book series from a traditional publisher into a 10 book series with two 5 book arcs, thanks to Kickstarter...

Blood Engines only has 3200 ratings and 300 reviews...

Re:Blood Engines: I loved the idea that the world is just one big blood engine, and the fuel tank is close to empty...

And I just saw on the book page that GR is recommending Dead Djinn Universe as something other readers of Marla Mason might enjoy...


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments TTHT #12
Through 14ish (view spoiler)

Through 18? (view spoiler)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments TTHT #13... The life where he was (view spoiler)


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Woops, this one is #13 isn't it? haha

Lots of the same thoughts as you Choko.. (view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Emily wrote: "TTHT #12
Through 14ish [spoilers removed]

Through 18? [spoilers removed]"


re: 14 (view spoiler)

re: 18 (view spoiler)

Only a little less than half through. Will finish today probably.

Enjoying seeing @Iain & @Choko talk Marla Mason books. :)


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Speaking of Faust, Craig Schaefer is a favorite author of mine... I've read pretty much everything he's published... he's a writing machine, when he's not battling depression...

His writing speed has tapered off some, in the past year or so... started on new meds and new therapists, after spiraling a bit during the pandemic, I think?... I check out his blog sometimes...

Hard to believe he hasn't released anything in Faust/Black world in nearly 2 years... but I like the Ghosts of Gotham and Charlie McCabe stuff, too, so it's fine...

Looks like he released a new book in a new series last week: Any Minor World... we should check it out when it releases on audio (no idea when)... it's on KU as an ebook, but I'm not sold on ebook reading yet... if audio takes too long I probably will at some point... that's what I did last year, when I couldn't wait for The Hungry Dreaming any longer...


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Blog says Any Minor World should be in audio production soon, hopefully... Faust has been written, and being edited... Black is being worked on...

And Any Minor World is set in the parallel world briefly visited in Chapter Tangerine of The Locust Job (previous Faust book I think)... I honestly don't remember, it's been so long... standalone cast of characters...


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I haven't read everything of his, including Charlie McCabe and Ghost of Gotham, but I love Faust and Black, and the witches series!!!! Love them! Didn't realize he is dealing with depression... I know how that is, so my heart goes out to him. Hopefully he gets better, so we can get more books:) I know, selfish, right?:)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Emily, I totally agree - Charles makes a perfect Watcher! I hope we keep seeing him as we go:)


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments OMG! Look at this! How had I missed it? I am so happy for her:)))

http://craigschaeferbooks.com/blog/20...


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Choko wrote: "OMG! Look at this! How had I missed it? I am so happy for her:)))

http://craigschaeferbooks.com/blog/20..."


Thanks for that... good for them... it has a nice FAQ at the end, too... I figured changing name on old books and maintaining fanbase might be confusing if the name change was done on the professional side vs personal...

That question about glocks in Red Knight Falling busted me up laughing, tho :D


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Timelord Iain | 35332 comments Mod
You know, that post brings light to the character of Seelie in The Hungry Dreaming, a trans MC, iirc...

I think a sequel to that is the next book Schaefer is writing, after the Harmony Black book...

It's weird how that series is just numbering entries, as if there aren't two entirely separate casts of characters... I guess it's just kinda become an umbrella series name for books set in the same world, where reporters get tangled up with magical people...


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I need to read that soon... Maybe I will re-read Faust on my own time too... I just feel comfortable in his world... Her world, I mean:)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments I hadn't heard of that author! Thank you for sharing a nice little tidbit.


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They kinda zoomed out of nowhere in the past 5 years and released like 50 books... and they're not low quality books like SOME authors...

*cough*Michael Anderle*cough* (sorry Choko) :D

I enjoyed our Buddy Read of the Kurtherian Gambit... but the quality kinda was all over the place, and the expectation of reading 100 side novels co-written with other newbie authors was ridiculous, later on... I'm glad I paused where I did, at the end of the first main series...


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Re:Schaefer:

From 2014 to 2018, they released 19 books across 4 series, that connected into a larger narrative called The Storybook (view spoiler)... the Revanche Cycle setup the backstory of the connective story, and the Wisdom's Grave trilogy wrapped it up... Daniel Faust and Harmony Black series came first, and they play a part in the other 2 series, but more as cameos and wrenches in the bad guy narrative...

After that wrapped up, Schaefer continued writing stories in the Faust and Black world, because they have their own storylines going on...

And then they started writing in some new worlds, too... Charlie McCabe is a mystery/thriller series with a military veteran working in the private security field...

Ghosts of Gotham is a new world of reporters and mythology...

And now there's the new Midnight Jury series this week...

Schaefer definitely writes the types of stories I like... Soo isn't a big fan of the story structure, tho, for some reason... it's a shame Karishma isn't around much anymore... she's another big fan around here... we did some Buddy Reads a few years ago, before she got busy in accounting school, I think...


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments I'll have to check their books out sometime!

Man since really getting into buddy reads I've found so many things I want to read and I just wish I had the time to read it all!


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Emily wrote: "I'll have to check their books out sometime!

Man since really getting into buddy reads I've found so many things I want to read and I just wish I had the time to read it all!"


That's the beauty of the groups and discussions around here... in my early years on Goodreads, I just used it as a digital bookshelf for tracking my reads and finding new ones (before I started making fancy spreadsheets)...

Then I got into some groups and did some discussing, and eventually found another group that discussed books alot, and eventually was led into this group, with takes it to the extreme, in the best ways...

Lots of mega-readers, people to Buddy Read with, and people who know lots of books you haven't read yet... it's a good thing I read fast, as I've managed to read tons of stuff in a short amount of time (moreso in the past)... but you always wish you could be reading MORE... there's just so many books out there... literal millions... I think GR has like 61,000,000 catalogued books, based on the numbers in the URL...

Any Minor World is URL'd as book 60,894,529... and it kinda dropped without warning, so it's probably only had a book page for a week or two...


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I just made a post in the Wandering Inn thread that stemmed from a bit of a rabbithole... Any Minor World above, to a new UF series I can try later, to Alex Verus, to the author Benedict Jacka's blog, and wondering when his next book is coming out...

I/we are big fans of the Alex Verus series around here, and it ended last year... since then he's been working on the first book of a new series... looks like it's on it's fifth rewrite, which is expected to be finished in June, and then there should hopefully be a release date scheduled... Jacka seems pretty positive about it, and how well-shaped the world/series is planned out, compared to the Alex Verus series at this point in writing the first book... he has vague outlines of the first 2-3 books, and an idea of the larger story that will take 8-9 books to realize...

Here's hoping I like it as much as Alex Verus... not much is known about the new book/series, yet, except that it's being written...

Pre-EDIT: digging a bit deeper, I found a post about how long Alex Verus was written without any planning... and it's kinda crazy... should be interesting, seeing him write a series with a bit more idea it's going to be a series, this time...


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Emily wrote: "I'll have to check their books out sometime!

Man since really getting into buddy reads I've found so many things I want to read and I just wish I had the time to read it all!"


Ditto on this Emily! I love that I'm learning about all sorts of new books and authors that would've never crossed my path normally, I wish I could read faster, to devour more stories.


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Waa, Choko, I'm falling behind on my audio this week. I can start Amber Spyglass if you've already jumped in, but if you've not, do you mind postponing?


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Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Nirkatze, I haven't started it either. We can totally postpone it. Just let me know when:)))


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Choko wrote: "Nirkatze, I haven't started it either. We can totally postpone it. Just let me know when:)))"

You're the best Choko! Thank you for always being so willing to read anything with me and being so flexible! I've been having so much fun sharing books with you (and everyone else too)!


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Emily wrote: "Woops, this one is #13 isn't it? haha

Lots of the same thoughts as you Choko...."


A little late but I just finished. Same thoughts as you both! (view spoiler)


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