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[2022] Poll 12 and SRC Results
Well, I read sci-fi so that's mostly all ships, planets and explosions on the cover. Lots of choices for books without a person on the cover there! lolCongratulations Sandra! I don't read a lot of YA anymore but I do still own two of the books on this list. Perfect!
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Also I've read 68 books out of the 100, and own another 12, so I'm pretty excited about Sandra's pick!
Surprised to only have one winner this week and incredibly surprised and happy that it wasn't the Goodreads Choice Awards. The TIME list is really interesting. There are a few on there that I adored and others not so much so it will be interesting to see which way it goes. There are a few I have been meaning to read for a while so I might try and get through a few of them.
I think I'm going to BIO "without a person on the cover" by adding "or in the title (by name or description)"
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I’m glad we got another cover prompt. I’m a bit disappointed in the 100 YA books list. There are some great books on the list but I have already read a ton of them so it does not leave me very many new read options.
Pleased one of my ups got in, but disappointed the two close calls never made it. I always feel that if it wasn't for Goodreads there would be no ATY challenge. Having said that, the site has been a bit of a pain this year. I'm not keen on the Time list, as I have read 6 of them and the only one left I want to read is the one I was going to read for the Food and Drink week.
For the YA list if you haven't read either book by Elizabeth Acevedo I highly recommend them, especially read by the author. They are both excellent.
TIME naming their list the best young adult books of all time is hilarious. About 90% of the books were published in the 21st century and authors are almost exclusively American. It’s as though they have no concept that books for or read by young adults exist in other countries or existed before the turn of the millennium. I work with young people and read a lot of books intended for children and young adults. I’m happy to see a prompt about this genre but at the same time it’s so disappointing to see a publisher promoting such a narrow subset of literature for young people as though it’s the best stuff out there.
Fortunately their earlier version of the list is slightly better so that may be an option for people who don’t mind stretching the prompt.
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And I guess I'm re-reading Anne of Green Gables again next year.
I very rarely read YA but I do have two books from the list on my TBR so it's doable.I think it's interesting that the list is "Best YA of All Time." YA as a genre didn't even exist until the 1960s. And I don't think it became really popular until like the mid 1990s.
"The term young adult was coined by the Young Adult Library Services Association during the 1960s."
https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/15/living...
BookLover wrote: "TIME naming their list the best young adult books of all time is hilarious. About 90% of the books were published in the 21st century and authors are almost exclusively American. It’s as though the..."It's a bit weird how the panelists all have books on the list, right?
And we relied on the expertise of YA authors themselves, recruiting a panel of leading writers—Kacen Callender and Jenny Han, along with Acevedo, Reynolds, Silvera, Thomas and Yoon—to join TIME staff in nominating and ranking the top books of the genre.
BookLover wrote: "TIME naming their list the best young adult books of all time is hilarious. About 90% of the books were published in the 21st century and authors are almost exclusively American. It’s as though the..."I agree. I'll be stretching the prompt and reading a book from their earlier list.
Pamela wrote: "Ugh! Only 1? We're never going to get to 52 books! Although I predicted it as for the first time I used all my votes for upvotes and whatever I vote for never wins. Next challenge I will only downv..."Compared to the past two years we are ahead. There are still several more planned polls.
Shannon wrote: "BookLover wrote: "TIME naming their list the best young adult books of all time is hilarious. About 90% of the books were published in the 21st century and authors are almost exclusively American. ..."Do you have the link for the earlier list?
Ellie I noticed that too. I wish I was an author that could just say i told Times magazine my book is the best, so now it is. I don’t mind either of these prompts. But I am really disappointed with how next years list is turning out. I know we all do it for different reasons, but I’d like a mix of prompts that make everyone happy. I know there will always be prompts I don’t like that make the list, but assume it’s the same for everyone.
I feel like if I do this challenge next year, I’m going to have to BIO or add different prompts to the majority of the prompts just to make it enjoyable for myself. But then that becomes me just making my own challenge list and being outside of the normal group. I won’t have time to read as much next year and have to pick only one challenge, and I’m sad that at the end of the day it might not be the ATY challenge as I love this group so much more than the others.
I didn't vote for the cover prompt because when I scanned my list it seemed like a 50/50 split of people and non-people covers. That will be an easy one to fill. I did vote for the two close calls though. Hopefully the character one will be resubmitted. I think we have enough list prompts now so GR choice might not make it on another attempt.
I don't read a lot of YA so wasn't thrilled to see the TIME list. I found a couple on my TBR that have been there for years though so that one is fine with me.
I'm just going to read The Marrow Thieves and forget that list exists. It has some good suggestions if you don't read much YA, but I've read most of what I want to on it.
Alicia wrote: "I feel like if I do this challenge next year, I’m going to have to BIO or add different prompts to the majority of the prompts just to make it enjoyable for myself. But then that becomes me just making my own challenge list and being outside of the normal group...."I'm planning on pairing up my rejects prompts with the more open prompts on the list. eg. I'll read books set on three different continents that will also tick off three of my rejects. That way I don't have to try and find time to read extra books to do a reject challenge, but it also helps narrow down those broad prompts.
Ellie wrote: "I'm just going to read The Marrow Thieves and forget that list exists. It has some good suggestions if you don't read much YA, but I've read most of what I want to on it."The Marrow Thieves is on the list, though...
Jillian wrote: "Pamela wrote: "Ugh! Only 1? We're never going to get to 52 books! Although I predicted it as for the first time I used all my votes for upvotes and whatever I vote for never wins. Next challenge I ..."Hi Jillian, if you click on the how we made it list above and scroll down you'll find it there.
Chrissy wrote: "The Marrow Thieves is on the list, though.. ..."I know it is, that's why I'll read it for that prompt. I don't need to look at the list again now I've chosen it, is all I meant.
Pamela wrote: "Ugh! Only 1? We're never going to get to 52 books! Although I predicted it as for the first time I used all my votes for upvotes and whatever I vote for never wins. Next challenge I will only downv..."I know. I think one prompt I've voted for (the dragon one) got in. I feel like if I vote for something, it's doomed.
Disappointed more didn't win- the cover one will be super easy to do. I am excited about the YA books, though. I've wished for it in the poll, but thought too many people wouldn't like it. That genre doesn't get enough respect, IMO, but there are some super reads in that list. To me, a good book is a good book in any genre
I had a lot of upvotes last time so I'm shocked more didn't get in. I'm happy with the results though and the winner's pick.
Shannon wrote: "Jillian wrote: "Pamela wrote: "Ugh! Only 1? We're never going to get to 52 books! Although I predicted it as for the first time I used all my votes for upvotes and whatever I vote for never wins. N..."Thanks, I missed that before. Though, I have even less choices with that list since I have read 50 of the 100 books on it.
Ellie wrote: "I'm just going to read The Marrow Thieves and forget that list exists.Although the prompt says "the" Time list, it doesn't specify the current or the original list, so I'll just read The Outsiders from the original list. I'm not sure whether it's ok to go ahead and add it to the listopia though.
I have so many books without people on the cover I'm not even going to preplan that prompt.
I didn't vote for the cover prompt because I thought it would be too easy as well. I like the idea of the title not referring to a person either, that definitely makes it more challenging.I like the YA prompt, there's definitely a negative view toward YA and there are some excellent books out there. I know one like this would never get in via poll so I like that the SRC winner picked it. While I've read several on the list there are many others I haven't.
I think this is the first time this year we only had one get in, but there's still plenty of time for more prompts.
Alicia wrote: I don’t mind either of these prompts. But I am really disappointed wi..."Alicia, I'm with you on this, so far there haven't been any prompts that would push me to do any research or creative thinking. However, my TBR is so long from doing research for previous years and other challenges that I'm thinking this might be a blessing in disguise! One option might be to pair our list with another challenge and find books that meet a prompt from both lists (I did this a couple years ago, and it was fun). That way you'll still be able to join in the ATY discussions :)
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I am happy with the cover prompt, it should be easy enough so might do one that also requires nothing that hints of a person in title either. When I saw the YA list I was a little concerned I hate it when lists claim to be the best books of all time. But there are a few I have considered reading in the past and others I loved many many moons ago that I could potentially reread.
I am OK with the winners. I am actually excited about the Time YA prompt. I have read several of the books on the list, but there are plenty I have not read. I am not as excited about the book without a prompt on my cover. Taking a quick look at my TBR list, at least half if not more of the books on my list do not have a person on the cover. This will be a super easy prompt to fulfill, but not much fun to research. But, like I said, I am OK with both - though I do wish at one of the close calls had made it in.
Can anyone tell me when Poll 13 suggestions will be open? Is it this afternoon?
Shannon wrote: "Can anyone tell me when Poll 13 suggestions will be open? Is it this afternoon?"It will be sometime tomorrow. I don't see where the mods have posted the approximate time though.
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I just want to be clear my issue with the Time list is not me hating on YA or the books themselves. It just irritated me for several reasons, so I said I'd rather forget it existed. Sorry if that sounded like I was dismissing the books on the list.
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It will open at noon Central Time tomorrow!
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I'm sure that at one time, if a book was marketed for young people, it would sell less, while now it sells more. Although I'm generally not a reader of graphic novels, both Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood and March: Book One are excellent memoirs in that genre. Six of Crows is only YA in that the protagonists are all very young, it's basically a fantasy with a heist story.
The Time list includes quite a few books that are part of a series, and they don't spell it out in the new list, but I think each book represents the full series, because that's how they did it on their previous list. I didn't pick up on that at first, since I just scrolled the list quickly to find titles that are on my TBR.
Robin P wrote: It will open at noon Central Time tomorrow!"Thank you!
Wow I am surprised only one prompt made it in from this round of voting, there were so many I really liked this round! I did vote for the cover prompt although that's an easier one for me to fill (I think I gravitate towards books that have wallpaper like covers or something).I'm happy to resubmit mad bad and dangerous for Poll 13 if people think I should since it was a close call, and maybe get some suggestions on how to make the KIS and BIO options even clearer/better to sell the prompt better? BIO seems obvious: character must be all 3 qualities.
And I do agree with others that the 2022 list so far is seemingly less difficult to find books for on its face than the 2021 list, there seems to be less specificity with the prompts. But for Alicia and others maybe there's appetite for a collective BIO subgroup to make the prompts a little more challenging?
Robin P wrote: "I can tell you from personal experience that YA was not a genre in the 1960's.""The term young adult was coined by the Young Adult Library Services Association during the 1960s."
https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/15/living...
I don't think it really became popular until the mid 1990s.
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Luckily, I was coming of age at the same time YA fiction was gaining traction, so that could be why I've read so many of the books on this list.
Firekeeper's Daughter is one of my favourite books of 2021 and I would definitely recommend it. It didn't strike me as typical YA and should work for anyone who likes mystery.
Ellie wrote: "It's a bit weird how the panelists all have books on the list, right?"Couldn’t agree more Ellie. It left a bad taste in my mouth to see authors being able to promote their books in this way. I’ve read many of the books on the list and enjoyed several of them, I just think the criteria and methodology by which this list seems to have been chosen are questionable and the idea it showcases the “best ever” young adult books is laughable.
I’ve made a Listopia for the 2015 list for anyone else who is planning to stretch the prompt and use that list instead of the 2021 one.https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...
I like this YA list! I'm actually always a fan of list prompts, though I understand why many others aren't, and I especially like the idea of having a YA list because I have several YA books on my TBR but I often don't think of them when choosing books to fill other prompts. Several of the books on that list have been on my TBR for years. It must just be my preferred genres, but I read SO many books without people on the cover. I might have to do some sort of BIO version of that one, or maybe use it to slot a nonfiction book in.
I was thinking of resubmitting the handwriting on the cover prompt, but perhaps people feel like we have enough cover prompts now?
YA didn't exist until after I was YA -- like someone said above, I went from Nancy Drew to Dickens and the big European classics. And, I read only a few of them when my kids were YA. Now it is fun to go back and see what's there. I think I'll enjoy that prompt.
I'm not a big fan of list prompts, but I am a big fan of YA so I don't mind this prompt (although I am side-eyeing the panelists all having a book on the list).A quick glance at my TBR shows I have a lot of books without a person on the cover. This'll be a easy one for me.
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FROM POLL 12
Top
A book without a person on the cover
Bottom
A book with a character in a Catch-22 situation
A book that describes drug or alcohol abuse
Close Call
A book that has been nominated for the Goodreads Choice Awards
A book with a main character that fits at least one of “mad, bad and dangerous to know"
FROM THE SUMMER READING CHALLENGE
Sandra is the lucky winner of our Summer Reading Challenge contest, and she picked the following prompt:
A book from the TIME list of 100 Best YA Books of All Time
You can find that list here: https://time.com/collection/100-best-...
For a bit on how this list was created: https://time.com/6085061/how-we-chose...
LISTOPIAS:
A book without a person on the cover
A book from the TIME list of 100 Best YA Books of All Time