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I downloaded the preview of 14. It was also starting slowly, with the PoV of (view spoiler). I didn't feel like waiting through the slow build up. And the naked sunbathing female neighbor he meets made me think annoyed thoughts, especially after your (Jenny's) thread on the author and male gaze. Maybe I'd read it if I could borrow it from the library, but I probably wouldn't buy it unless it was on deep sale.(My rating of The Fold was also 3 stars - for me, also a passing grade meaning I don't regret that I read it.)
I read 14 first and yes the food was really slow at first especially because I figure out the twist in chapter 1 (what else could that scene mean). I still loved it overall but I liked the first book better because it was a better mystery. Can’t wait to read the rest of the books
I also read 14 before reading The Fold (I read both in the past few weeks). I enjoyed 14 a lot more, as it has more of a strange mystery. It had "first couple seasons of Lost ... but in a weird building instead of an island" feel. It does set up The Fold in terms of what some readers (especially on the podcast) seemed to think of as an out of nowhere twist late in the book. Reading 14 first, you know that something like that is coming (and why), apart from the separate mystery of what is happening with the rings in The Fold.
I read 14 first and because of this there were not too many surprises in The Fold. It was too predictable after 14.
Iain wrote: "I read 14 first and because of this there were not too many surprises in The Fold. It was too predictable after 14."It was predictable even without having read 14.
The twist was predictable. The change in genre wasn't, unless you read 14.
Reading 14 wasn't required to enjoy The Fold, but there are a few nice call backs.
Reading 14 wasn't required to enjoy The Fold, but there are a few nice call backs.
I read "14" before "The Fold" and I think it made my reading experience more interesting. In addition to the multiverse mystery, I had a feeling of dread that was informed by the first book. I just kept wanting to scream, "Please shut the damn door before the planet-eating monsters notice that we are here!" And for everyone curious about the FBI/men-in-black couple at the end of the book, they are the main characters in "14" (so read it if you are interested).
I've listened to the whole series on Audiobook. I liked 14 the most, followed by The Fold.I'm curious though, where are the "male-gazey" comments coming from? I'm not arguing, just interested in hearing another opinion.
Gabriel wrote: "I'm curious though, where are the "male-gazey" comments coming from? I'm not arguing, just interested in ..."I was referring to Jenny's comments in this other thread: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...




After a conversation I had in Instagram with a former student, I think I could be persuaded to read other books in this series in a certain mood. This one was a solid 3 stars for me which is a good, not perfect, passing grade.
A: Have you read 14 by him? I wonder if it feels less sloggy if you have. Even though you don't have to read them in order, I think there was enough overlap in the building blocks of the adventure part that help with that. More excitement in waiting doe the characters to realize what you know or at least suspect. I also did all 4 books on audio (the last 2 are Audible only). Ray Porter narrates them and he's my absolute favorite narrator!
Me: No but I'm guessing the (view spoiler)[ woman who shows up at the end of this one must be that story?
A: Yes! I actually like that one better than The Fold. The roaches are a clue from that one as well. (hide spoiler)]
Me: interesting! Do they work together in book 3?
A: They kind of do in book 4. Book 3 is a big jump into the future and is basically a zombie book on the moon. With the same monsters. It's really fun!
Me: Woah