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[Reva]

:-)

[Cait S]

The more I realize I absolutely HATE outer space science fiction, the sadder I get that there's no caravan. Can that stop being a thing so I don't have to read these books myself? Please?

I know you can't actually see it so just imagine me giving you the puppiest puppy eyes you have ever seen. Or kitten eyes if you aren't a dog person. Whatever.

[Teresa]

I love outer space sci-fi and have a book I could trade you... or when the caravan does come I could sell :)

[Cait S]

I don't want to get in trouble with the mods if they come back and put the smack down on that whole trading thing, since we didn't really get permission :/

But I will most definitely buy it from you if we ever get our caravan back!

I keep trying to find good ones and I just can't seem to do it!

[Zuzana]

Cait, I haven't read it myself but people recommend The Martian a lot.

Or try to pick some books from the Hugo or Nebula awards lists. There are good sci-fi books out there, they're just hard to find. Don't give up.

[Kay Kay]

The Martian was really good. I am not a sci fi fan either. I liked the Martian because it dealt with the character more than the science.

[Cait S]

Thanks for the rec! I just saw the preview for that movie the other day and thought I should give the book a try before that comes out :)

[Reva]

Cait wrote: "The more I realize I absolutely HATE outer space science fiction, the sadder I get that there's no caravan. Can that stop being a thing so I don't have to read these books myself? Please?

I know ..."

I love sci Fi is there anything you did like? Anything you absolutely hated?

[Cait S]

I like sci-fi in general. Like any versions dystopias or zombie apocalypse, steampunk, etc etc. Just specifically science fiction set in outer space I really, really dislike. It seems all the ones I try, I just absolutely can't stand the writing style. I can't even put my finger on why, honestly. It just bores me to tears or goes totally over my head, one of the two.

[Reva]

Here are a few old school Favs of mine:

Foundation (the whole series by Isaac Asimov
Dune (most of the series) by Frank Herbert
Robot Dreams (the Robot series) by Isaac Asimov
A Princess of Mars ( the Martian series) by Burroughs , Edgar Rice
Red Mars Trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson
The Golden Age of Science Fiction predicts tech changes by 30+ years or more
Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury
Ender's Game (series) by Orson Scott Card
Michael Crichton everything

[Zuzana]

Those are really great reads, Reva, but some of those are Earth-bound or planet-bound. So before you strart reading, Cait, check out the synopsis.

Some of my favs:
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - outer space (humorous)
Redshirts - outer space (humorous, parody of Star Trek)
Ender's Game - outer space (military, the book is good, the author is a jerk)
2001: A Space Odyssey - outer space (hard sci-fi)
Rendezvous with Rama - outer space (hard sci-fi)
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - Moon setting (hard sci-fi, A.I.)
The Forever War - outer space (military, space opera)

A.C. Clarke's books are usually set in outer space but his style is rather heavy-handed. He's a typical hard sci-fi author, great ideas and little character development.

Dune (the first three books) are a fantastic read, and the series usually tops lists of The best scifi for people who don't like sci-fi at all ;-) (but it's mostly planet bound)

[Alex]

I really enjoyed Across the Universe, the first in a YA trilogy set on a spaceship. Much better than a lot of the YA I've read.

Red Rising was also a good read, it's set on Mars though so it might not count for outer space.

[Cait S]

Thanks all! I'll look into these :)

[Kelly]

Zee wrote: "I really enjoyed Across the Universe, the first in a YA trilogy set on a spaceship. Much better than a lot of the YA I've read.

Red Rising was also a good read, it's..."

Mars is fine for outer space. I'd say anything not on Earth counts.

[Zuzana]

Kelly wrote: "Mars is fine for outer space. I'd say anything not on Earth counts."

Thanks, Kelly. That will makes this task so much easier. ;)

[Reva]

Will we be getting July's Update any time soon?

[Kelly]

Reva wrote: "Will we be getting July's Update any time soon?"

Yeah, I'll be working on it soon. Hopefully next few days.

[Cat]

my Quick! Lies! submission, shamelessly cadging from Reva's efforts

Rose had settled in well to her new job with Jordan, who had indeed proposed in no short order. Well, with that mind, figure, and way with his sons, can you blame him?!
The day of the wedding was fast approaching, and Rose went off for a [pre-wedding pamper / pre-wedding party*], leaving Jordan and the boys on their own for a weekend...

On her return, the house was still standing, but that's the only good thing that could be said.

"Blood Moon and Stars!" cursed Rose, surveying the destruction. "If we are to be Married by Monday, I want you to clear this House of Evidence of your slovenly ways!"

Suitably terrified by his fiancee's wrath, Jordan set the boys to work, tidying up everything, including sweeping a large amount of Sand**.

Rose surveyed their work, quietly pleased that she'd laid down the rules. Yes, this marriage would be a Utopia. For her at least!

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* delete as preferred
** best not to ask

[Kelly]

*claps* Good Job Catherine :)

[Zuzana]

Great job, Catherine. :D

[Rebecca]

Love it Catherine!

[Teresa]

Awesome, Catherine!

[Cat]

thanks y'all *blushes*

[Teresa]

Question, when fighting, can you be reduced to 0 HP or must you always have at least 1 HP left to continue to fight? I'm sure I know the answer but wanted to double check :D

[Reva]

Very cute. :-)

[Reva]

Teresa wrote: "Question, when fighting, can you be reduced to 0 HP or must you always have at least 1 HP left to continue to fight? I'm sure I know the answer but wanted to double check :D"

I don't think that you can attack with 0 HP.

[Zuzana]

Teresa, when your HP's 0, then you're dead.

If the same goes for monsters it makes sense that it applies to heroes, too.

[Teresa]

That's what I thought, but also wondered if I was reduced to 0 then took a heal potion right away, would that work?

Just playing with numbers for my dragon's and realizing that with out my horse I need to level up my sword or get another health potion, or go to 0 for one round. I may be able to level up between two dragons though, so I'm looking into that too... so many options.

[Cait S]

Question about books set in space:

Does it need to be 100% set there or is it okay if they start on Earth but then go up to space?

Still riding the struggle bus trying to get through these ones. Never touching space fiction again after this.

[Reva]

Cait wrote: "Question about books set in space:

Does it need to be 100% set there or is it okay if they start on Earth but then go up to space?

Still riding the struggle bus trying to get through these ones. ..."

The one I'm set to re- read for the third time is called Tau Zero by Poul Anderson. It's about a space ship who's speed governor breaks. It deals with relativity and what happens to the crew when they realize that everyone they know back home have aged and died. It's well written.

Nightfall by Isaac Asimov is another favourite psycho-drama.

[Zuzana]

Cait wrote: "Question about books set in space:

Does it need to be 100% set there or is it okay if they start on Earth but then go up to space?

Still riding the struggle bus trying to get through these ones. ..."

I would say that as long as a substantial part of the plot is set off-Earth, then the book is okay for the task.

[Zuzana]

Teresa wrote: "That's what I thought, but also wondered if I was reduced to 0 then took a heal potion right away, would that work?

Just playing with numbers for my dragon's and realizing that with out my horse I..."

Common sense tells me that when you're dead you can't drink any potions, Teresa. :p ;)

BTW What dragon are you planning to kill?

[Kelly]

From the rules: "You cannot attack monster if your health is at 0.
Your health does not go below 0. (Example: Hero Health 1, Monster attacks for 5, Hero Health is 0)."

I'm going to interpret this to say you can drink a health potion at 0 health but you can't launch an attack at 0 health.

[Kelly]

Zuzana wrote: "I would say that as long as a substantial part of the plot is set off-Earth, then the book is okay for the task. "

Agreed.

[Teresa]

Thanks Kelly! That makes a difference!!!

[Teresa]

Thanks Kelly! That makes a difference!!!

[Sara]

Oh, I think I've messed up a bit then. I forgot a 0 HP hero is almost dead and can't attack ;)
I need to update my quest log and correct it.
Thanks ladies!

[❀Tea❀]

See Kelly! I keep telling you that heroes needs sidekicks or squires so when hero is lying there dying, they can pour heal potion into him :p

[Zuzana]

Does it mean that when I attack a monster and it ends up with precisely 0 HPs that it isn't dead I need to attack it one more time to kill it?

Also: According to the rules you can't go bellow 0. So let's say that I have 2 HPs and monster attacks me with 10 AP 2-10= -8 but I can't go bellow 0, so it means that I have 0 HPs. If I'm not dead and can drink a potion in this situation it is much more advantageous than doing it before the attack. Because now I can drink for instance a Minor Healing Potion and gain 5 HPs and attack the monster again. If I did it before the attack I would end up 2+5-10= -3, still 0, no attack.

If it's how it's supposed to be then I was foolishly wasting my healing potions.

[Kelly]

Zuzana wrote: "Does it mean that when I attack a monster and it ends up with precisely 0 HPs that it isn't dead I need to attack it one more time to kill it?

Also: According to the rules you can't go bellow 0. S..."

Drat. People always coming up with loopholes.

The intent I had for the not going negative was that you couldn't keep attacking and get further and further into negative. I wasn't intending on people "dying" then reviving and continuing the attack.

How about we go with if you hit 0 HP you can heal and do another attack. Going below 0 HP would end the fight.

Unless anyone see's a problem with this, I'll update the rules tonight to reflect the clarification.

[Zuzana]

This makes perfect sense, Kelly. Great idea to add it to the rules so there is no misunderstanding.

BTW Up until now I read the rules as "0 HP = end of the fight". So I never gained any "unlawful" HPs. Just to make it plain. :)

[Reva]

WOOHOO! 50 civets dead -- halfway there guys!

[Teresa]

Yay!!

[Zuzana]

This is great. If we manage to obtain all cures in 2 weeks, then the plague we can end the epidemic in 10 weeks.

Kelly, now we're halfw way through Cure 1, can you possibly give us a preview of Treatment 2 so we can start with the planning. Pretty please. :)

[Reva]

Are there people close to level 8 sword or staff needing help?

[Cat]

hurrah! I have wrestled fiercely and a red dragon has succumbed to my might and cunning!

Wench! beer & stew all round!

[Zuzana]

Congrats Catherine!
Do you have any lesser dragons left or have you already slain them all?

[Cat]

Zuzana wrote: "Congrats Catherine!
Do you have any lesser dragons left or have you already slain them all?"

Thank you!

Just the Yellow one left. frankly it can wait, I'm in no hurry for the find items bonus.

And I've wiped out my big heart population and killed a troll too :) plus a drop bear & a bat to get some health back (taking advantage of my last day of damage potion!)

[Zuzana]

I know, I killed 2 trolls while my +3 AP bonus lasted. Easy way to get a couple of health potions back.

[Reva]

A Big Congrats Catherine.