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Two more hydra heads to go, but I need to wait on gathering a few things. Question about activating the white gem -- would Magician's work for magic in title/series? Or does it have to be exact match? Reading The Magician's Nephew already anyway. If not, it's no big deal because I do have Magic Shifts to read once I can get my hands on a copy. Just curious. lol.
Sorry for all the questions, but I've just realized I used a book twice. I did re-read it though. Can we use books again if we've read them a second time?
Shanna_redwind wrote: "Sorry for all the questions, but I've just realized I used a book twice. I did re-read it though. Can we use books again if we've read them a second time?"Yes, you can reread books.
I remember we had that discussion (especially since I do reread books all the time), and I think it was only said that it can't be used for same quest.
Morgan wrote: "Two more hydra heads to go, but I need to wait on gathering a few things. Question about activating the white gem -- would Magician's work for magic in title/series? Or does it have to be exact mat..."I would say no, but Kelly has final say in this one :)
I figure a no is likely. lol. I was just searching to see what options I had and it popped up and I just started it today.
Shanna_redwind wrote: "❀Tea❀ wrote: "It's like J.K."Thanks, that's what I thought, but for some reason my brain wanted to interpret it differently.
If anyone is interested in dystopian/PA (not YA) type there's [book:G..."
PUPPY 7 requires a book with just initials.
Question: Can we use the books we read for the other challenges in this group? (The regular challenges, the ones that aren't part of the RPG).
Olalla wrote: "Question: Can we use the books we read for the other challenges in this group? (The regular challenges, the ones that aren't part of the RPG)."Yes.
Welcome to the game. *slides a mug of ale down the bar*. A word of advice. Dont cash in your potion tokens until you're ready to battle.
You'll need them for the rare monsters. Don't waste them on the little guys. If you're a regular reader, you can make up potions you need from quests and scrounger items.
Morgan wrote: "Two more hydra heads to go, but I need to wait on gathering a few things. Question about activating the white gem -- would Magician's work for magic in title/series? Or does it have to be exact mat..."I'd say no since it's not the same word. If it was Magic vs. Magik or Magics then it's a bit different since it's the same word.
Question before I make a mistake here haha...For the hydra head - LUST: It's attack is based on the attack of your highest weapon. (Not including modifiers.)
So if my sword is level 9, is the hydra's attack 9? Or 11?
RebeccaS wrote: "Question before I make a mistake here haha...For the hydra head - LUST: It's attack is based on the attack of your highest weapon. (Not including modifiers.)
So if my sword is level 9, is the hy..."
Let's go with 9. I'm going to add a note to the +2 that it's considered a modifier of the attack.
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Note: For purposes of advanced monsters the +2 to the level of your weapon should be considered a modifier and not part of the base attack. However, if something states that it is based off the attack as a whole then the level and all modifiers are considered.
Going to start writing up stuff for next month's quests in the next few days. If anyone has any requests you want me to consider please mention them or send them via message.
Moderators of NBRC wrote: "Updated the welcome thread to add:Note: For purposes of advanced monsters the +2 to the level of your weapon should be considered a modifier and not part of the base attack. However, if something..."
Yay thanks!
Kelly wrote: "Morgan wrote: "Two more hydra heads to go, but I need to wait on gathering a few things. Question about activating the white gem -- would Magician's work for magic in title/series? Or does it have ..."Glad I asked! I would have discounted Magics or Magik. :D Thanks for expanding on your answer! haha.
Good question RebeccaS! I wondered about that myself (just started on the Hydras this past weekend) and I ended up including it I think, but definitely good to know! (& thanks Kelly for the answer!)
Hydra's APs can be confusing. When in doubt I check out Reva's battles.
I have two heads left, and things planned out. Just need to build up some nuts. XD (Also I still have both of the -10 point items and cannot bring myself to use them. Anyone else in that boat? Where you just can't let go of them for anything? haha. Just me? ;) )
Kelly wrote: "Going to start writing up stuff for next month's quests in the next few days. If anyone has any requests you want me to consider please mention them or send them via message."What about a old good dungeon crawl? I don't have much experience making challenges at all, but maybe it could have a cover with a cave or ruins on it, and then maybe covers with what creatures are rumoured to be in the dungeon and/or the treasure hoard that's rumored to be there. (obviously I like cover challenges)
The D&D player/DM in me loves a dungeon crawl idea! :)
That would be so awesome. Esp if there was a way to work some teamwork into that like a real table top.
That would be so awesome. Esp if there was a way to work some teamwork into that like a real table top.
Moderators of NBRC wrote: "Updated the welcome thread to add:Note: For purposes of advanced monsters the +2 to the level of your weapon should be considered a modifier and not part of the base attack. However, if something..."
Well dang. I guess I'll go rework my Lust battle from yesterday...
Ray (user2637) wrote: "Moderators of NBRC wrote: "Updated the welcome thread to add:Note: For purposes of advanced monsters the +2 to the level of your weapon should be considered a modifier and not part of the base at..."
Wow Ray. I think we started doing this around the same time. How in the world are you doing the big battles already? I can barely get through the common ones each week!
I don't recall if this was discussed butRe: You're all nuts! - Repeatable Quest for S.H.O.E.
Can we use the orb of Air to eliminate one of the letters like with HERB & SALT?
Karsyn wrote: "Wow Ray. I think we started doing this around the same time. How in the world are you doing the big battles already? I can barely get through the common ones each week!Lots of potions. :)
Ray (user2637) wrote: "Karsyn wrote: "Wow Ray. I think we started doing this around the same time. How in the world are you doing the big battles already? I can barely get through the common ones each week!Lots of poti..."
LOL! I'm no where ready to start doing any of those. I've been working on getting my Bauble this past week/two. Now I gotta focus back on my staff, and EXP in general.
Well, the more you up your weapons, the harder Lust hits you. I definitely wanted to get that one killed before any more Staff leveling. You should re-read the attack info for Sloth and Pride. Sword and Staff power both matter there.
Also, my Merc coupon was great with Ysmay for many many battles. :)
Ray (user2637) wrote: "Well, the more you up your weapons, the harder Lust hits you. I definitely wanted to get that one killed before any more Staff leveling. You should re-read the attack info for Sloth and Pride. Sw..."
I'll check 'em out. My exp is so low still though, I'm sure they'd pound into me. The Uncommons beat me up weekly. Granted, I haven't used any potions lately, but still. :)
Can the orb of air be used for replacing one of the items for the Quests such as for HORSE or RABBIT, KICHEN or KITCHEN-TWO
So I'm planning my first 2 hydra attacks for next week because I'm getting antsy and want to kill a big monster (it's been a while).Did I calculate the attack power right for these two attacks:
HYDRA - Lust:
Use 1 minor poison potion, 1 heal potion
Current Level - 9 Max HP 27 with Health Gem, Level 9 sword
Hero: 16 attack + sword bauble
Using minor poison potion
Lust: 9-1 Attack 100 Health
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Lust 98 HP left
Hero attacks Lust with sword (17 attack) ==>Lust 81 HP left
Lust attacks Hero (8 attack) ==>Hero 19 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Lust 79 HP left
Hero attacks Lust with sword (18 attack) ==>Lust 61 HP left
Lust attacks Hero (8 attack) ==>Hero 11 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Lust 59 HP left
Hero attacks Lust with sword (19 attack) ==>Lust 40 HP left
Lust attacks Hero (8 attack) ==>Hero 3 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Lust 38 HP left
Hero attacks Lust with sword (20 attack) ==>Lust 18 HP left
Hero takes 1 heal potion ==> Hero 13 HP left
Lust attacks Hero (8 attack) ==>Hero 3 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Lust 16 HP left
Hero attacks Lust with sword (21 attack) ==>Lust DEAD
Hero: 5 Hp left (with orb and rock)
Reward: 40 Experience, 2 Minor Poison Potions
LEVEL UP - full health
4/27/16
The Hydra - Pride
- This head reacts to a strong presence unfettered by weaker things close to it. Your attack power for this head will be based on highest weapon minus lowest weapon (e.g. staff at 9, sword at 5, attack power is 4).
Hero: Level 1 sword and Level 9 sword; 29 HP
Hero attack: (9-1=8 + 2 + 1 Horse + 3 Orb Fire + 1 Puppy) = 15 attack + 1 bauble
Use 1 Minor Poison Potion, 2 major heal potions,1 minor heal potion
Hydra: 15-1 +1 Attack 100 Health
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Pride 98 HP left
Hero attacks Pride with sword (16 attack) ==>Pride 82 HP left
Pride attacks Hero (15 attack) ==> Hero 14 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Pride 80 HP left
Hero attacks Pride with sword (17 attack) ==> Pride 63 HP left
Hero takes 1 minor heal potion ==> Hero 19 HP
Pride attacks Hero (15 attack) ==> Hero 4 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Pride 61 HP left
Hero attacks Pride with sword (18 attack) ==> Pride 43 HP left
Hero takes MAJOR heal potion (+15 HP) ==> Hero has 19 HP left
Pride attacks Hero (15 attack) ==> Hero 4 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Pride 41 HP left
Hero attacks Pride with sword (19 attack) ==> Pride 22 HP left
Hero takes MAJOR heal potion (+15 HP) ==> Hero has 19 HP left
Pride attacks Hero (15 attack) ==> Hero 4 HP left
Minor Poison Potion takes affect ==> Pride 20 HP left
Hero attacks Pride with sword (20 attack) ==> Pride DEAD
Reward: 40 Experience, 1 Pet Plus Potion + 2 HP with Rock and Orb
Hero: 6 HP left
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Did I calculate the attack power right for these two attacks:
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ummmm.... I think for the Pride, you have to recalculate the Hydra attack power each round, to account for the increasing strength of the sword.
My understanding (or at least, how I calculated it) is that the bauble add-on has to be factored into the attack power (unless you've two baubles, in which case ignore me!
Catherine wrote: "RebeccaS wrote: "So I'm planning my first 2 hydra attacks for next week because I'm getting antsy and want to kill a big monster (it's been a while).Did I calculate the attack power right for the..."
Thanks, that's what I'm trying to figure out. From the example it looked like I just took the level of each weapon (without modifiers) and subtracted them, and then added on all the modifiers.
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Did I calculate the attack p..."
IIRC, the bauble arrived after the Hydra, so the comment on the bauble "When calculating values based on attack power of weapon, each round it must be re-evaluated." was meant to address that.
But, like I say, that was how I did it, & I could be wrong!
Your bauble counts from the first attack so first hit would be +1, second +2 etcLust attack is based on the base value so there is no increasing (as far as I interpreted and did) so it would be 8 through out.
Why are you adding +2 for your horse? are you using a pet plus potion? (don't forget they need to be unlocked first) that would also double the rock's effect and the puppy's
If not, you didn't add the multiplier on the first battle for Pride, so your numbers still work.
Teresa wrote: "Why are you adding +2 for your horse? are you using a pet plus potion? (don't forget they need to be unlocked first) that would also double the rock's effect and the puppy's"Yep that's a typo. It's supposed to be +1 Horse and then +1 for Bauble. Thanks!
Teresa wrote "Lust attack is based on the base value so there is no increasing (as far as I interpreted and did) so it would be 8 through out."
Correct, that's what I did (isn't it?). Lust's attack on me is 8 each round. My own attack increases each time with bauble.
My big question is with the Hydra Pride....did I calculate my own attack numbers correctly? I thought that the attack (looking at the example and Reva's attack) was weapon 1 - weapon 2 = attack + modifiers = total attack numberSo for me it's: Sword 9 - Staff 1 = 8 Attack............... 8 attack +2 + 1 horse, +3 orb + 1 puppy + BAUBLE = total attack
And the bauble is a modifier, so it would be add after the subtraction bit. Or is that not how we calculate?
Catherine, are you saying it's: (Sword 9 + 7 modifiers + Bauble) - (Staff 1 + 7 modifiers) = total attack??
I see how Catherine and Reva did it differently, so I'm just trying to figure out which way is what was intended.
I thought the same as you (using the base without modifiers).One note is that if you fight the Lust Hydra first, you have to add +1 to the attack power of Pride because you already defeated 1 head ("each time a head is slain, the attack power of the remaining heads increases by 1"). So the attack power would be 15 +1 defeated -1 Rocky = 15.
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If I had no baubles, or both baubles then it's academic, as my power difference wouldn't change round-by-round.
I have one bauble (attached to my staff). This means that the difference between attack power will change each round.
To make it easier on myself, and because the only difference in modifiers was the bauble, I worked out what my modifers - EXCLUDING bauble (the standard +2, pets +2, orb +3, potion +3 - using the one that affected both weapons) were - a total of 10 points. For each round I then did the calculation of (staff level + Bauble) - (sword level).
With a level 11 staff and a level 5 sword (i.e. base attack would be 13 and 7) this is:
Round 1 = (11+1) - 5 = 6
Round 2 = (11+2) - 5 = 7
etc
and then added on the modifiers (which includes the +2 base attack), so my total attack would be:
R1 = 6+10 = 16
R2 = 7+10 = 17
The one that was more difficult was the Sloth head, which averages the attack powers. Again, I updated each round, rounding down, So two rounds I'd have the same attack and then change for the next. I can't remember now how I calculated the averages.
For the Lust - I attacked that without the bauble, so I used the base attack (not the level attack)
So, with my level 10 staff (at that point), I calculated the Lust attack as being 12AP.
Does that make sense? Or have I muddied the waters further?!
Cathy M. wrote: "I thought the same as you (using the base without modifiers).One note is that if you fight the Lust Hydra first, you have to add +1 to the attack power of Pride because you already defeated 1 hea..."
Thanks for reminding me! Just need a minor heal potion addition to fix that one...thanks
Updating my attack above for this.
I think my real question for Hydra Pride is:Do we subtract the weapon levels (9-1) and THEN add modifiers (8+7 modifiers = 15)
Or do we subtract weapons with all modifiers (9+7) - (1+7) = 8 attack. This is a HUGE difference
Since I have the bauble on my higher weapon, it doesn't matter if I include it before I do the subtraction or after.
ROUND 1: Sword (level 9 +7 + 1 bauble) – Staff (level 1 + 7) = 9 attack
or
ROUND 1: Sword (level 9 +7) - Staff (level 1 +7) + 1 bauble = 9 attack
ROUND 2: Sword (level 9 + 7 + 2 bauble) - Staff (level 1 + 7) = 10 attack
or
ROUND 2:Sword (level 9 +7) - Staff (level 1 +7) + 2 bauble = 10 attack
Same thing here
I think they way I did and it and the way you are explaining Catherine are the same....or end up with the same result. I think I'm just way over thinking this.
I took the recalculation to mean the +1, +2, +3, +4 changing and therefore requiring you to change the total.Kelly said up there that it was base with no modifiers (not even the +2 above your 'level') which would have me thinking it includes the bauble as a modifier and not part of the 'base'.
aka as usual I seem to have done something different. I used 'base level' as whatever level I had brought them to via reading books or series to increase.
Morgan wrote: "I took the recalculation to mean the +1, +2, +3, +4 changing and therefore requiring you to change the total.Kelly said up there that it was base with no modifiers (not even the +2 above your 'le..."
That's how I took it. So I added +1 the first round, +2 the second, etc. Base level is the LEVEL of the sword, the +2 we get (just because) is not part of that.
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I am sad about the Lust attack - I made it the +2 harder for myself!
Anyway, I'm going to sink back into my corner, drink my beer & carry on reading about Ebola & Marburg : The Hot Zone: The Terrifying True Story of the Origins of the Ebola Virus
Catherine wrote: "Yeah, I think it's all the same, I think I got confused & stirred up nonsense, sorry! I am sad about the Lust attack - I made it the +2 harder for myself!
Anyway, I'm going to sink back into my..."
Haha thank you for your help!! Sorry I was definitely over thinking and confused about it, but I think it makes sense now.
Enjoy your book!
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Thanks, that's what I thought, but for some reason my brain wanted to interpret it differently.
If anyone is interested in dystopian/PA (not YA) type there's Going Home by A. American where he's away from home when an EMP hits and he has to get home. I know there's another Quest where the initials are needed as well.