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message 1: by Theresa (last edited Nov 02, 2020 09:49PM) (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Well, in case any of you don't know, it is Election Day in the US. 😁

Many of us have been waiting 4 years for this day. A long time for a do over, wouldn't you say? I predict long lines at the polls even though over 3/4 of those who voted in 2016 have already voted. Astounding. Could be the largest turnout to vote in the history of the USA. It will be beautiful!

Another "election" ends today as well...Poll Tally Challenge. Jade Dragons vs. Readers of the Purple Sage. Which team is taking the win? What color will dominate? And which individual on which team will win the Presidency? Well, it will likely be a few days before final results are known. I have my preference (hint: I am a trifle green and thus biased).

I have a busy week, thankfully allowing me to filter the news.


message 2: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12150 comments My nerves are so bad, I'm eating my hair, because of the election.

My co-workers brother-in-law had an accident so gruesome that it will cause me bad dreams.

With these two things combined. I dunno.

Theresa, I love this thread you have started. It cheers me up every week and I love seeing what all the members are doing.

With reading and the Poll Tally, I had a serious mid year lull and I apologize to my team who have been great..


message 3: by Theresa (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Booknblues wrote: "My nerves are so bad, I'm eating my hair, because of the election.

My co-workers brother-in-law had an accident so gruesome that it will cause me bad dreams.

With these two things combined. I d..."


Oh BnB! I feel for you and your co-worker's family! And bad dreams...I have them from something I read recently, a true event, that so disturbs me I cannot box it up and shove it away deep enough for it not to haunt my dreams.

So glad this thread has given such pleasure! Now, find something silly to read as distraction.


message 4: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments Will be thinking of you all in the US today. Hope you have a beautiful voting turnout that will result in some true leadership.


message 5: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments I am wearing head-to-toe blue (even my undies ... though, alas, I don't have a blue bra) ... AND I'm also wearing my pearls in honor of RBG.

Hubby drove by village hall this morning and reported only about 10 cars in the parking lot. But our village manage sent an email blast on Friday to report that already 74% of village residents had cast their ballots, either through absentee voting, or early-in-person voting.

Weather indicates a high turnout ... about 60F high and cloudless, blue skies. I have yet to turn on the TV, though. But I've planned a very nice dinner and even bought an apple pie for our dessert. If nothing else, we'll be celebrating the end of political ads!


I'm shaking my head in wonder at the posts in the Next Door website (like a mini facebook for a specific neighborhood) from people in a panic about how / where to vote! The site has been flooded with information for months!


message 6: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12150 comments Book Concierge wrote: "I am wearing head-to-toe blue (even my undies ... though, alas, I don't have a blue bra) ... AND I'm also wearing my pearls in honor of RBG.

Hubby drove by village hall this morning and reported o..."


I have a blue bra! I am contemplating the pearls. I'm not sure how appropriate they are in a preschool with jeans and a t-shirt. But I might go all out!


message 7: by Jenni Elyse (last edited Nov 03, 2020 05:35PM) (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) I'm a ball of nerves today too, BnB. I'm sorry about your BIL.

I'll be happy for the end of political ads too, BC. I think I almost hate those more than I hate the actual election ... almost. I like the idea of wearing head-to-toe blue. I need to go buy some yarn a little later. I think I'll put on a blue uniform. :D

We keep getting Drumpf trains on our main freeway slowing down traffic. My husband's friend had a Biden flag on my truck. He was not driving around in predominantly Drumpf neighborhoods to cause a stir. He was just driving here and there to his normal places, like work, grocery store, etc. and his truck was vandalized. When he returned to his truck, he was beaten up by these Drumpf supporters. I have not heard the opposite of Biden supporters doing any of that to Drumpf supporters.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed and praying very fervently!


message 8: by Charlotte (new)

Charlotte | 1701 comments I'm trying to stay off Facebook today and don't plan to watch the news until later so I can see what my old home state, FL, does. NBC is even in my old home town because whichever way Pinellas county goes so goes the state.

I've got my first meetings for my first day at Amazon scheduled, I've received my new work laptop and security badges and have filled out all my paperwork... only 6 more days!!

Otherwise hubby and I have been painting and cleaning and getting our house ready for his parents visit next week. He wants us to look like "real adults" when they get here. I just giggled and shook my head and kept painting.


message 9: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) Google is showing some results (not final) but it’s so nerve wracking. My anxiety is unhinged right now. I might go take a klonopin and fall asleep and just wake up to the results.


message 10: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Jenni Elyse wrote: "He was just driving here and there to his normal places, like work, grocery store, etc. and his truck was vandalized. When he returned to his truck, he was beaten up by these Drumpf supporters. .."

That's horrible, Jenni. Is he ok?


message 11: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) LibraryCin wrote: "Jenni Elyse wrote: "He was just driving here and there to his normal places, like work, grocery store, etc. and his truck was vandalized. When he returned to his truck, he was beaten up by these Dr..."

Yes, he's okay. Fortunately, they didn't hurt him too bad. they mostly bruised some ribs and gave him a black eye and told him to get out of their neighborhood.


message 12: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Oh, man. That's awful. I hope it was reported to the police, as well.


message 13: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) I think it was. And, I think they took it seriously unlike with the Drumpf trains on our main freeway slowing down traffic. They act like they don't know what's going on with that. We call BS.


message 14: by Theresa (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments I was subsumed in work and had an evening zoom meeting so only glimpsed news a short while ago. Watching that Horrible Orange Man get any votes is just upsetting me. So I am settled with ice cream, watching a Hallmark Christmas movie and eating ice cream. And listening to helicopters which at this hour in NYC means something not bood happening.


message 15: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Theresa wrote: "I was subsumed in work and had an evening zoom meeting so only glimpsed news a short while ago. Watching that Horrible Orange Man get any votes is just upsetting me. So I am settled with ice cream,..."

I have had CBC streaming in the background with ongoing updates as I am online.

I never used to follow politics this close up until the past decade or so.


message 16: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Jenni Elyse wrote: "I think it was. And, I think they took it seriously ."

That's good. Although I suppose it's unlikely anyone will be caught.


message 17: by Joanne (last edited Nov 04, 2020 05:54AM) (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12645 comments I have lost all faith in mankind this morning as I look at these returns...

Why is it ok to tell the children of the country that electing a person who blatantly lies is not a big deal. For me, this was not about politics, it was about a moral compass that our country seems to no longer have


message 18: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments Joanne wrote: "I have lost all faith in mankind this morning as I look at these returns..."

Drowning my disappointment in Apple pie for breakfast ... and a good Starbucks Italian Roast.


message 19: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments I'm hanging on to hope.
Hang in there!


message 20: by Johanne (last edited Nov 04, 2020 06:20AM) (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments Joanne wrote: "I have lost all faith in mankind this morning as I look at these returns...

Why is it ok to tell the children of the country that electing a person who blatantly lies is not a big deal. For me, th..."


... but yeah, I think I know how you feel. And the worst is these kind of things are contagious. Hateful, spiteful, narrowminded speach and actions seem to spread much easier than kindness, compassion, understanding, love.


message 21: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments Okay ... latest news updates make my grasp on the cliff edge of hope a little more secure ... moved from "by my fingernails" to using my entire fingers.

And I have decided to wear pearl EVERY DAY until the outcome is confirmed. Who says you can't wear pearls with khaki's and a teeshirt?!


message 22: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12645 comments Book Concierge wrote: "Okay ... latest news updates make my grasp on the cliff edge of hope a little more secure ... moved from "by my fingernails" to using my entire fingers.

And I have decided to wear pearl EVERY DAY..."


I expect to see them Friday! I will get my daughters-(yes she has pearls, and I don't!🙄)


message 23: by Charlotte (new)

Charlotte | 1701 comments I'm going to try to stay away from the news because the constant strategizing and possibilities is causing anxiety. I've turned on HGTV and Property Brothers and will find something else to watch in a bit.

I'm still fixing things up and cleaning and enjoying my last few days of being unemployed.

I keep reminding myself that regardless of the outcome, at least we have our Governor. Inslee won by a landslide. My husband and I are both so, so thankful that we live here now and not where we used to live in FL.


message 24: by Robin P (last edited Nov 04, 2020 08:13AM) (new)

Robin P | 5806 comments Book Concierge wrote: "Okay ... latest news updates make my grasp on the cliff edge of hope a little more secure ... moved from "by my fingernails" to using my entire fingers.

And I have decided to wear pearl EVERY DAY..."


My husband set up a Zoom call last night with about 12 people of like mind. 2 of the women were wearing pearls.

I am angry with the country and also with all the pundits and pollsters who insisted this year was different and they were absolutely sure about their forecasts. I feel like Charlie Brown having the football pulled away over and over. Yes, there is still hope for Wisconsin and other states but it should never have been this close. So many people looked around and said, "Gee, I really want 4 more years of this"?! We will never get the pandemic under control without a clear mandate, except for those states like NY and California that are doing their own thing. My state has divided government and is doing nothing. My town and county thankfully are good.

I wish I could live long enough to see how history books will treat this period of American decline and when it will turn around.


message 25: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments Robin P wrote: "I wish I could live long enough to see how history books will treat this period of American decline and when it will turn around. ..."

I remember my mother cautioning me when I was a young teen - "A good reputation, once lost - can never be restored." I fear that has happened already to our country.


message 26: by Joi (last edited Nov 04, 2020 08:57AM) (new)

Joi (missjoious) | 3970 comments I wore my pearls all yesterday, and am wearing all blue today. I was flipping between Election Coverage, The Office, and reruns of Top Chef. Had to get the mind off things, I stayed up WAY too late, and feel pretty worn out this morning- and this is just the start!

I'm trying to maintain the mindset that I've done what I can personally do, and to be patient. Like Charlette, my state results have all come up Blue, and I'm happy with Oregon's representation.

I'm also happy with our Measures- Oregon is now the first state to decriminalize small amounts of many hard drugs-with the fine being more similar to a traffic violation ($100 or a full certified health assessment), and is now funneling funds gained from Cannabis Tax to health, treatment and addiction recovery. Essentially paving the road of treating drugs as a health issue versus a criminal issue.


message 27: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments I think the world is in a, what we call 'brydningstid' which literally translated means 'breaking time': a time of upheaval when the way things are, is changing. With a climate catastrophe around the corner, a pandemic, hateful speech and actions ... you just don't know where things will land. But it's a time where the world should unite against these large scale problems, and then our leaders (or many of them) don't have that courage and concentrate on petty discussions and creating unnecessary conflict.


message 28: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments @Joi, that's really good news about the drug regulations.


message 29: by Holly R W (last edited Nov 04, 2020 08:57AM) (new)

Holly R W  | 3141 comments I want to thank everyone here. I look to you for your discussion of events, large and small, political and personal, which are going on in your areas around the world. We can all get a sense of what's happening.


message 30: by Rachel N. (new)

Rachel N. | 2249 comments Living in Michigan watching these results come in is extremely stressful. The presidential and senate races are so close here. I'm wearing blue until this is over (I sadly don't own pearls). I understand where you are coming from Joanne. With covid numbers skyrocketing, along with everything else, to have the race this close is disheartening. Thankfully Michigan's governor was not up for re-election this year.


message 31: by Meli (new)

Meli (melihooker) | 4165 comments Jenni Elyse wrote: "LibraryCin wrote: "Jenni Elyse wrote: "He was just driving here and there to his normal places, like work, grocery store, etc. and his truck was vandalized. When he returned to his truck, he was be..."

That is so horrible and anti-American... it's domestic terrorist and the opposite of what these people say they value. Makes me sick.

If you truly value the greatness of America, you value people's right to vote and support the political party they believe in even if you don't agree. Although, I am with @Joanne in that this is a moral issue at this point.

Sick with stress today, hanging on for the final results and mostly staying away from the news unless friends update me.

But, I have a meeting at 1 that is likely to last forever so there will be some reprieve :P


message 32: by Miriam (new)

Miriam | 112 comments I am thinking of you, too. Hang in there!
German TV covers the election widely. I am not feeling good today, have been staying at home and watching Gilmore Girls and only every few hours tuning in to the election coverage. People here still hope for the best.


message 33: by Nikki (new)

Nikki | 663 comments Charlotte wrote: "I keep reminding myself that regardless of the outcome, at least we have our Governor. Inslee won by a landslide. My husband and I are both so, so thankful that we live here now and not where we used to live in FL."

I felt happy when I saw that Inslee had been reelected - I guess I'll always feel a tie to WA after living in Seattle for three years.

I'm watching from the UK and even from this distance I'm feeling tense, so I can't imagine what this waiting feels like for those of you who are actually there. Fingers crossed for you all!


message 34: by Robin P (new)

Robin P | 5806 comments Rachel N. wrote: "Living in Michigan watching these results come in is extremely stressful. The presidential and senate races are so close here. I'm wearing blue until this is over (I sadly don't own pearls). I unde..."

The same in Wisconsin!


message 35: by Nikki (new)

Nikki | 663 comments Side note - I always find the colours confusing as it is flipped here in the UK (left-wing = labour = red, right-wing = conservative = blue) and so when I picture you all wearing blue & pearls it makes me think of Maggie Thatcher...




message 36: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments Nikki wrote: "Side note - I always find the colours confusing as it is flipped here in the UK (left-wing = labour = red, right-wing = conservative = blue) and so when I picture you all wearing blue & pearls it m..."

OH, From afar, I didn't always agree with her conservative viewpoint, but Thatcher was one strong female leader. AND she was principled and didn't resort to lies and subterfuge as the Orange man is doing. I admired her. I remember the scene in the movie, "They're MY islands. Get them back! Now, shall I play Mother? Cream? Sugar?" (Re: the Falklands).


message 37: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments Haha Nikki same! It's also that way in Denmark (though i don't picture Maggie).


message 38: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments CNN has just called Wisconsin for BIDEN!


message 39: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12645 comments Johanne wrote: But it's a time where the world should unite against these large scale problems, and then our leaders (or many of them) don't have that courage and concentrate on petty discussions and creating unnecessary conflict.

Well said Johanne. If only, eh?


message 40: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12645 comments Book Concierge wrote: "CNN has just called Wisconsin for BIDEN!"

I just saw that!!!


message 41: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12645 comments Holly R W wrote: "I want to thank everyone here. I look to you for your discussion of events, large and small, political and personal, which are going on in your areas around the world. We can all get a sense of wha..."

It is really nice to be able to come to this little corner and know you will find a friend.


message 42: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12645 comments Nikki wrote: "Side note - I always find the colours confusing as it is flipped here in the UK (left-wing = labour = red, right-wing = conservative = blue) and so when I picture you all wearing blue & pearls it m..."

you made me laugh Nikki-thank you!


message 43: by Meli (new)

Meli (melihooker) | 4165 comments My husband is a high school teacher and they did a mock election... 75% voted for Biden.
This is of course a very small sample pool, but republicans should be concerned since these kids will be of age to vote next time.
And also, they have to actually vote which there is definitely a large portion of Black men and Latino men not voting.
If Biden loses this election I worry it hurts more for people who voted for the first time and still can't see it pay off in the results, but we'll see.

I would never NOT vote, but I get a little discouraged thinking about it and it makes me think "why bother."

I've seen people posting about small victories, a lot of historic shit happening outside of the Presidential election and that gives me hope.


message 44: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Robin P wrote: "Yes, there is still hope for Wisconsin and other states but it should never have been this close...."

This has floored me. How close it is... I just can't believe it.


message 45: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Nikki wrote: "Side note - I always find the colours confusing as it is flipped here in the UK (left-wing = labour = red, right-wing = conservative = blue) and so when I picture you all wearing blue & pearls it m..."

LOL! re: Margaret Thatcher! Yeah, in Canada, the colours are flipped, too, but red (liberal) is a more centrist position. Orange, then green are left and left some more!


message 46: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments Meli wrote: "My husband is a high school teacher and they did a mock election... 75% voted for Biden.
This is of course a very small sample pool, but republicans should be concerned since these kids will be of ..."


In my opinion, The Orange Man won in 2016 because of all the people who did NOT vote (because they didn't like Hillary), not because of the people who did vote.


message 47: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments CNN has now called MICHIGAN for Biden.

If Biden can hold onto his current leads in Nevada and Arizona, he hits the 270 electoral college votes mark and is the next President. (Even without Pennsylvania)

Probably won't know for certain until LATE tonight or early tomorrow.

Hanging onto that cliff of hope by my fingertips.


message 48: by Joi (new)

Joi (missjoious) | 3970 comments Great Victories:
-Colorado rejected anti-abortion measure
-First openly black gay man in congress
-First openly transgender women as a state senator
-Missouri elected a BLM Leader and Activist as a US House representative

Had a small freak out today (I may have googled how to move to Madrid), but largely STAYING POSITIVE, and STAYING PATIENT.


message 49: by Jen K (new)

Jen K | 3161 comments Joi wrote: "Great Victories:
-Colorado rejected anti-abortion measure
-First openly black gay man in congress
-First openly transgender women as a state senator
-Missouri elected a BLM Leader and Activist as ..."


Thank you for this!! I love the small but large victories for progress!!! Starting to hope. Fingers crossed!


message 50: by Joanne (last edited Nov 04, 2020 03:46PM) (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12645 comments @ Joi- yes thanks for sharing.

I was really concerned about Michigan-my stomach and nerves are a little better..


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