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[J.]

The last British Prime Minister to hold his own against the Koh-I-Noor Curse was Winston Churchill.

To all the Brits in this thread, is there any politico, currently in the UK, who comes close to the strength of character demonstrated by Churchill?

[Scout]

Beau, enjoy Gregory Porter. Wish I could be there.

[Sean]

At least two-thirds of the MPs in the House of Commons now seem to believe that Churchill's 'racism' (a man of his time) to be more important than his role in the war. Education has been on quite a journey in the last 50 years!

Labour and the Liberal Democrats think 'character' means progressive values; the Conservatives think it means sense of nation. So they all think they have character; I just see a whole bunch of ambition.

[Sabri]

J. wrote: "The last British Prime Minister to hold his own against the Koh-I-Noor Curse was Winston Churchill.

To all the Brits in this thread, is there any politico, currently in the UK, who comes close to ..."

Dennis Skinner (retired 2019 but still alive and kicking) springs to mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_...

He's known as the "Beast of Bolsover" and was notorious for speaking his mind in Parliament. Also one of the few MPs to outmaneuver Enoch Powell.

Don't know if this is included in your category of "politico" but trade unionist Mick Lynch is also pretty strong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Ly...

There are famously a lot of TV interviews where he rips apart the interviewer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ZQL...

[Sean]

Yes Skinner sadly left the stage now, while Lynch continues to organise strikes among rail workers who earn an average of £60,000 per year. A controversial figure..

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I agree with Sabri that Dennis Skinner and Mick Lynch were/ are very astute operators and great debaters.

That said, as far as trades union officials go, I believe the best was Bob Crow:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_C....

And, as mentioned before, the best current debater in Parliament has to be George Galloway.

J, Churchill was a remarkable man in a whole host of ways and rightly gets his place at the 'top table' because of his role as our wartime PM. He was the right man at the right time.

However, he wasn't that effective a politician in peacetime, and courted controversy on a number of occasions. He also only won 1 GE (1951). I would say Clement Attlee was our greatest PM of the last 100 years, who, funnily enough, also only won 1 GE.

And come on, man, how can you mock our politicians? Actually, I see how so let me rephrase that...

Considering the leadership of your own 2 major parties, how can you mock ANY other country's politicians?

[J.]

I can mock them because the lead politico just called for a UK election on the Fourth of July,
https://youtu.be/kHAksb4gSIM?si=x1OAX...
and his predecessor managed to yank the pound, kill the queen, and set a new record for the shortest premiership in the history of the UK. Should I mention her predecessor?

[[deleted user]]

As opposed to someone who doesn't know what day it is vs 'the accused'.

I'll give the US one thing, though, RFK Jr is a hugely better 3rd option than Ed Davey.

Papaphilly, don't you dare...

[[deleted user]]

Btw, thanks for the concert post, Scout. Wish you could join me there too :)

[J.]

Beau, let's swap and see what happens.

Biden at 10 Downing Street would be a lot like the UK in the Seventies. Not good for y'all, but the rest of the world would get along.

Liz Truss in the White House... Do you really want her in charge of the world's reserve currency, the most powerful military the Earth has ever seen, a potentially apocalyptic nuclear arsenal, and a cadre of alphabet agencies which think of assassination as Tuesday? How does that one turn out?

Which scenario is scarier?

[[deleted user]]

J, globalist progressives, like Biden, are a world away from '70s Britain. Forget the headline inflation rates, industrial strife, etc, most people back then enjoyed a far better quality of life than they do now. And Bidie wouldn't have been welcome.

Re the lettuce in the US, it'd be business as usual because, like Bidie, she hasn't got it in her to oppose the Deep State.

Only Donald and Robert would do that, and, as I've said before, I'm far from sure the former will be allowed the chance.

6 months is a v long time in politics.

[Papaphilly]

Sean wrote: "At least two-thirds of the MPs in the House of Commons now seem to believe that Churchill's 'racism' (a man of his time) to be more important than his role in the war. Education has been on quite a..."

Actually they all are a cast of characters.....

[Papaphilly]

Beau wrote: "As opposed to someone who doesn't know what day it is vs 'the accused'.

I'll give the US one thing, though, RFK Jr is a hugely better 3rd option than Ed Davey.

Papaphilly, don't you dare..."

WHAT?...8^)

[[deleted user]]

More bad news for the fake conservatives. Nigel Farage to become leader of Reform and stand for Parliament in Clacton:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-po...

[[deleted user]]

Nigel's already livened up the most boring election in British history.

Great article from a former Clacton MP and colleague:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024...

[Ian]

The big point of the link, in my opinion, is the one on diversity. We do not need a collection of every classification; we need competence. By all means not reject someone because of race, gender, whatever, but don't include them based on that. It is competence we want.

[J.]

Wanna take a guess how our current Vice President was picked?

[Ian]

Biden wanted a female with colour???

[J.]

Yep. Ain't it grand. She's as big of a disaster as he is. But calling her out on it invites accusations of racism, misogyny, and every other form of "hate speech".

[Scout]

Unless a person can be objective and look at what she's done and said. Most of it ineffective. Being objective isn't popular, though.

[J.]

Eighty years ago today, 135,000 men hit the beaches of Normandy to end a scourge of mankind. Over 15,000 remain there.

[Nik]

An event to remember and to draw conclusions: when a proverbial good is determined to get rid of the bad, it’s entirely possible

[J.]

Top cancer charity apologizes for using word 'cervix' instead of trans-friendly 'front hole'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...

Newspeak.

[Papaphilly]

J. wrote: "Top cancer charity apologizes for using word 'cervix' instead of trans-friendly 'front hole'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...

New..."

So there are a group of people that would rather see many others die than live with the word cervix? Seriously?

[J.]

It's more along the lines of being incensed at their exclusion from the pity party just because they don't have a cervix. Kinda like those trans-women who insist on calling breastfeeding "chestfeeding" because they don't have mammary glands capable of feeding an infant.

[Papaphilly]

J. wrote: "It's more along the lines of being incensed at their exclusion from the pity party just because they don't have a cervix. Kinda like those trans-women who insist on calling breastfeeding "chestfeed..."

I find the idea of apologizing to people that do not have a cervix for feeling left out is insane. Maybe these people with bruised feeling have no idea how devastating cancer actually is to the family and those affected. Idiots.

[J.]

No, it's not idiocy. It took some clever people to get political protection for this stuff.

These people value their happiness above the real suffering of others. That is sociopathy. If you cite their refusal to accept reality as a mental health symptom, then it's psychopathy.

[J.]

King Charles’ first official portrait vandalized by activists
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/style/...

Remember the old days, when the normal response from the king would be to summon the headsman?

At least they covered up part of that awful painting.

[Papaphilly]

I think it is time to start locking these people up with the play stupid games win stupid prizes theory.

[Scout]

That would be a start. Maybe also reminding those who claimed to "follow the science" during the pandemic that they should also now follow the science that a person is genetically a male or female and can't arbitrarily claim to be something they're not. That's living in fantasyland. I'm white, but I guess I could claim to be black and it would have to be accepted by those who think saying something makes it true, despite scientific evidence to the contrary. What a crazy world we live in.

[[deleted user]]

The UK GE has finally got interesting...

Reform are basking in the Farage effect and have now overtaken the fake 'Conservatives' in the latest opinion poll:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/...

The hilarious thing is that the fake 'Conservatives' were claiming a vote for Reform was a wasted vote. Now, Reform are saying the same thing about them. Lol! I genuinely hope the official 'Conservatives' are wiped out for what they've done to this country in the last 5 years. Traitors, charlatans and globalist shills, the lot of them.

Btw, haven't watched much of the leadership debates (apparently the ones between Rishi and Sir Keith were like watching paint dry), but in the clips I've seen of the ones involving Nigel, he's wiped the floor with all comers.

As I've said before, in terms of charisma and debating skills, only George Galloway comes close to him.

[[deleted user]]

Big scandal in the UK. A number of Conservative officials are being investigated over placing bets on the timing of the GE.

Here's Nigel, sharing his thoughts on it:

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/180...

Lol.

[Ian]

Yep, they all like insider trading and insider betting.

[J.]

How else are you going to pay for a nice estate on a government salary?

[Ian]

On the other side of the world, NZ has an infrastructure problem. First, Northland (north of Auckland) had no electricity when a pylon cqarrying the 500 kV lines fell over in a storm, Apparently maintenaned workers were cleaning up the bolts holding the pylon to the base plate and somehow forgot to put them back. The outcome - so many could not buy anything because card payments no longer worked. Cash was king. Think of what could happen in a major earthquake!

The second was a ferry ran aground in the Marlborough Sounds, just out of Picton. What was curious about this was that the rather aged ship had just had a refit offshore with emphasis on the steering, and what happened? As it left Picton it suddenly decided on its own to turn to starboard and it ran into a sand bank. It has since been refloated, but I would want my money back from the refit.

The government owns that ferry company and has run its ferries down so that no ferry is less than 25 years old. (There is also a private sector company but I dont think it can ferry rail freight.) The previous government ordered two new ferries, which was good, but overlooked the fact that designs did not match the capabilities of the two ports, so two new ferry terminals would have to be built. Oops.

[[deleted user]]

Ian, the threat of electricity going down isn't confined to areas that suffer earthquakes. The Zero Carbon crusade will leave us overly reliant on renewables, which aren't going to be able to meet demand anytime soon. The establishment's 'nudge units' and their friends in the MSM are already planting the seeds of regular blackouts in the population's minds to prepare us for it.

And this at a time when cash is being phased out? It's insane - just like our current political leadership. Seriously, these guys are so deranged on every issue, I'm beginning to wonder if they've been hired by a foreign power to destroy us. Lol (a sardonic lol).

[[deleted user]]

In UK GE news, the row between Nigel Farage and the fat, scruffy honey monster, who uses the name Boris Johnson, continues...

Nigel has described fatty as 'morally repugnant' and 'the worst PM of modern times'.

Bravo, Nigel. You're spot on.

[J.]

I feel that I should point out the debauched Muppet did not tank the pound and kill the Queen.

[[deleted user]]

The honey monster's lockdowns, net zero madness and botched Brexit tanked the economy, J. The imbecilic Truss might have sent this decline into a short-lived overdrive, but she didn't do as much damage as BoJo The Bad.

Who knows what eventually reunited HM The Queen with God? Did she take the covid vaccine or was it just old age? Impossible to know for sure.

[Ian]

The problem with Brexit waas that if Boris really thought there were advantages in Brexit he should have got on and realized these advantages. From what I can make out, he simply sat on his hands

[[deleted user]]

Records show that the Honey Monster was never a Brexiteer. He rallied to the cause just a few weeks before the referendum, purely to outmanoeuvre Cameron for a potential leadership challenge by garnering the support of Eurosceptic elements within the fake conservatives, while privately hoping and expecting Remain would win.

When we voted Leave, him and Gove went into hiding for days, shell-shocked. They hadn't got a clue what to do. Amongst the high-profile political class, there was only Nigel out celebrating.

[Ian]

That sounds typical of certain politicians. Their own personal position is more important than the country.

[Nik]

Boris should replace South and Northgate as national team’s ⚽️ manager. At least it would be fun

[[deleted user]]

Boringgate/ wokegate is more like a PE teacher than a football manager. An irritating little man but, unlike Boris, not evil.

[J.]

Strong turnout in France’s high-stakes elections as support for the far right grows
https://apnews.com/article/france-ele...

[J.]

Out of curiosity, how's the UK election going?

[Nik]

Doesn't sound like anyone's passionate about them. Should set an alarm clock for they might miss them

[Ian]

At this part of the world, nothing seems to happen in their election to warrant being on the news. Is everyone campaigning under flat rocks?

[[deleted user]]

The only thing to happen of note over the last few days, in the UK GE, concerns Reform...

Basically, they have been flying and moved several % above the Conservatives in the polls. Then, towards end of last week, Channel 4 did a hidden expose on some of their campaigners. One bloke was filmed calling Rishi a 'f***ing p*ki'. As you will appreciate, that is about as bad as it gets, so, understandably, all hell broke loose.

It gets more interesting...

The Telegraph discovered that the bloke who said this was a paid actor. It was then revealed that he has worked for Channel 4 before, is a specialist in what is called 'rough voices' (ie putting on a working class accent), and is also an expert at hidden camera work.

The man, himself, admits being an actor (after initially denying it). He won't say if C4 paid him, but claims the truth will eventually come out in the press.

Understandably, Reform claim it's a setup. They are furious and have reported C4 to election authorities. C4 have denied the accusations. I have no idea who is telling the truth but the allegations on their own will unquestionably harm Reform. The damage has already been done. How much remains to be seen.

Also, Nigel appeared on BBC Qestion Time, in front of a v hostile audience. I watched the programme and it stunk. Indeed, many people, not just in Reform, saying audience was rigged against him. It has already been proven that one of the questioners in the 'randomly selected' audience was a BBC director, and another was a political activist, opposed to Reform. Nigel has refused to appear on BBC again until they apologise, and Reform are saying they will scrap the licence fee.

In conclusion, I don't think it's controversial to say that Reform has rattled the political establishment. It certainly looks like they're now closing ranks against the party and using dirty tricks to smear it, but how can I, an ordinary Joe, know that for sure? Obviously, I can't. It's just my gut feeling.

The rest of the election is boring beyond belief. Few serious issues discussed. Labour waiting to be crowned, Conservatives on damage limitation exercises, and Lib Dem leader doing 'fun' things like bungee jumping to get publicity.

The worst GE in memory.

[J.]

France election 2024: How will the second round run-off work?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/...

Macron's government is so out of touch that farmers literally started flinging s*** at them. Now that it looks like the bums will get shown the door, the MSM is screeching about the Nazis. (I'm not kidding. NPR is crying that if RN wins it'll be a return to Vichey France.) How did we get here?