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message 301: by Ashley (new)

Ashley (ashleym99) Emily wrote: "Ashley, we do have a prompt involving non-traditional families on the 2020 list, so I'm not sure people would vote for it again."

Oh, I didn't even realize that. Never mind then.


message 302: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) I am hoping for new prompts or at least a few years since we have had it. I like the idea of the medical prompt. There was an attempt to get that through for the anniversary of Florence Nightingale's birth this year, but it failed. Maybe the COVID angle will make it more attractive to some.


message 303: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments I like the ideas of medical and second chances.


message 304: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (new)

Robin P | 4017 comments Mod
Medical is good, it could include characters who work in the field, someone dealing with a medical issue, of course any kind of plague, including in sci-fi. Someone mentioned having more non-fiction options, and there would be plenty here. There are probably lists already of medical-themed books.


message 305: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (new)

Robin P | 4017 comments Mod
I had a couple ideas that have to do with titles

A title with a negative in it - that is a word like No, Not, None, Nobody, Never, Can't, Don't, etc. -

or

A title with a form of the verb "to be" - for example, Eleanor Oliphant Is Completely Fine, We Were the Mulvaneys, Being Mortal: Medicine and What Matters in the End


message 306: by Ashley (new)

Ashley (ashleym99) Robin wrote: "I had a couple ideas that have to do with titles

A title with a negative in it - that is a word like No, Not, None, Nobody, Never, Can't, Don't, etc. -

or

A title with a form of the verb "to b..."


The negative could go into a multi-book prompt. A title with a negative and a title with the positive. Yes, Always, Everyone, Do, All, etc. Just an idea if you wanted to expand. Totally up to you.


message 307: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
I like the negative one better than the form of the verb "to be" because I feel like the negative one will translate better to other languages, for our members who don't read English books as their default. Plus the negative is so creative!


message 308: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) I like the negative as well and even the idea of a multi-prompt with a positive. I was thinking about "a book with an adjective in the title" but I like the negative better.

On the medical prompt: This would also open the doors to a slew of biographies.


message 309: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 1356 comments I really like the negative one and/or the negative/positive. I would definitely vote for either of those.


message 310: by Rachel (new)

Rachel A. (abyssallibrarian) | 3282 comments I really like the "negative word" one because I love that kind of scavenger hunt, and would potentially be open to that as a multi-week (even though I'm not a huge fan of multi-weeks generally). I also really like the second chance idea.


message 311: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (new)

Robin P | 4017 comments Mod
Ashley wrote: "Robin wrote: "I had a couple ideas that have to do with titles

A title with a negative in it - that is a word like No, Not, None, Nobody, Never, Can't, Don't, etc. -

or

A title with a form of ..."


Good point about the "to be" - some languages don't use it in simple sentences. I liked the negative better anyway and I think that would translate in whatever language.


message 312: by Jill (new)

Jill | 725 comments Sara wrote: "Since so many things have been cancelled or postponed because of the virus (i.e. the Olympics), a prompt dealing with second chances. Could be a plot that involves a second chance (divorce, relocat..."

I love this prompt idea!


message 313: by Irene (new)

Irene (irene5) | 919 comments Steve wrote: "Irene wrote: "How about reading the 21st book on your TBR shelf? Sorted any way you want (by date added, original publication date, custom order if have it arranged a certain way, etc)

Got this id..."


Oh, I see, I'm not doing this year's challenge so I missed that. And it sounds like people really don't like the idea anyway, so I'll withdraw the suggestion!


message 314: by Irene (new)

Irene (irene5) | 919 comments Sara wrote: "I didn't like the prompt either, Robin. Same reason, it just wasn't nailed down enough. I checked the book that was 20th at the time the prompt was elected, then I read books and it changed. It has..."

I see what you mean! The 21st book on my TBR shelf doesn't change when I add new books (because I sort by date added) so I didn't consider that for some people it would constantly change and become a "freebie" prompt.


message 315: by Jill (new)

Jill | 725 comments I was thinking about suggesting: A book with a day of the week or month in the title.


message 316: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) Jill wrote: "I was thinking about suggesting: A book with a day of the week or month in the title."

I like this. Lots of variety of genres there.


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Khara Baughan | 48 comments Sara wrote: "I am hoping for new prompts or at least a few years since we have had it. I like the idea of the medical prompt. There was an attempt to get that through for the anniversary of Florence Nightingale..."

I was thinking of suggesting something in a similar vein but more from the perspective of "Read a book related to healing". Doesn't HAVE to be medical but very easily could. Either way I like the idea of having a prompt like this in the mix.


message 318: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
Khara, I like "a book related to healing" better. You could include people healing from trauma, or characters who are doctors but the medical stuff may not be the main focus, or you could do self-help books. The more I think of it, the more I like it!


message 319: by °~Amy~° (new)

°~Amy~° (amybooksit) I have a couple ideas for suggestions for tomorrow:

For a light fun reads: A book shelved as Brain Candy on Goodreads (brain candy is a fun, not intellectually stimulating read, basically relaxing, enjoyable fluff). There are 15,162 options listed but I think reading whatever you consider Brain Candy or Fluff for yourself counts!

OR

For a potentially more serious read: A book shelved as Mental Health Books on Goodreads. There are 31,191 books listed but again, whatever book speaks about mental health to you would work as a KIS option.

Thoughts?


message 320: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (last edited Jul 06, 2020 01:10PM) (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
I like the Brain Candy one... I have so many read and to read on that list. I would just make sure you clarify your prompt when you suggest it (for the mental health one too). Does it have to come from the list of books tagged? or is it anything you'd consider adding to the list?

There's a big difference between A book shelved as Brain Candy on Goodreads and A book you'd consider Brain Candy or fluff

(I personally like the one with the tag, but I know people don't always like lists.)


message 321: by Lin (last edited Jul 06, 2020 01:43PM) (new)

Lin (linnola) | 557 comments I would like to suggest a book with an animal on the cover. The book doesn't need to be about the animal, it just needs to appear on the cover. This could work for a fiction or non-fiction reader.

In the last year or so I've read Dewey The Small-Town Library Cat Who Touched the World by Vicki Myron and A Dog's Purpose (A Dog's Purpose, #1) by W. Bruce Cameron

Goodreads has a bunch of list with different animals
Favorite Animal - https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...
Butterflies - https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/3...


message 322: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments I feel like a book related to healing is a bit vague. And can I really read a palliative care nurse's memoir for it? Probably not.


message 323: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (last edited Jul 07, 2020 03:26AM) (new)

Robin P | 4017 comments Mod
Ellie wrote: "I feel like a book related to healing is a bit vague. And can I really read a palliative care nurse's memoir for it? Probably not."

Interesting, I would say that is fine. Healing doesn't have to mean someone is literally cured of a physical ailment. The reason I like this group's challenges more than others I have tried is that there is more scope for interpretation with a lot of them. It's no more vague than "a book dealing with time" which we have this year.


message 324: by °~Amy~° (new)

°~Amy~° (amybooksit) Emily wrote: "I like the Brain Candy one... I have so many read and to read on that list. I would just make sure you clarify your prompt when you suggest it (for the mental health one too). Does it have to come ..."

I'm not usually much of a list person either but when a list includes 15,000+ books, I'm pretty sure I can find something that will work for me :-)


message 325: by Ellie (last edited Jul 07, 2020 05:21AM) (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments Robin wrote: "Interesting, I would say that is fine. Healing doe..."

I just personally don't think all medical books would fit healing in my interpretation, I would feel that healing needs to be the focus of the book otherwise, like you said, it becomes a read anything book, like the time one if you don't try and find a focus. My gut instinct would be to vote for medical but not healing. Maybe further into voting I'd be more desperate to get books that I like in though... :)


message 326: by [deleted user] (new)

i don't if this has been said already but i realllllly think the medical one is probably going too triggering and/or difficult for some people with this current pandemic


message 327: by Stacey (new)

Stacey D. | 1908 comments When I suggested the medical prompt, I was thinking of a really broad prompt. While it could definitely include medicine/nursing in a non-fiction sense, one could also chose fiction, like a mystery, involving medicine in some way, perhaps with survival as a theme (although that’s one of this year’s prompts).


message 328: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments I do feel for people who are now scared to go to the doctor, but maybe reading about health in a positive manner could be helpful. Not all medical books are about death and illness. I did take a break from reading about medical things late last year because I had terrible health anxiety which turned out was being caused by an actual condition. But also during that time I had no problem reading about crime-solving doctors or made up diseases. I just didn't want to read about things that felt like might be wrong with me!


message 329: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
I think "A book relating to medicine" would be an okay prompt, even in the scope of things. You could be really literal with it (takes place in a hospital, features characters with illnesses, post-apocalyptic, etc.) or you could leave it a bit looser in interpretation (character is a doctor but that doesn't play a huge role, a medical thriller, a character who takes medicine, books featuring mental health issues, etc.)


message 330: by Kayleigh (new)

Kayleigh | 107 comments I love the idea of a medical themed prompt in honour of the great people who work so hard to keep us all going, great idea.


message 331: by ladymurmur (last edited Jul 07, 2020 05:50PM) (new)

ladymurmur | 541 comments The discussion around the medical theme and prompts inspired by the pandemic started me thinking - what about a prompt related to the front-line or essential workers? Not only the medical professionals, but those folks who were and are out there, keeping the world going so others can shelter at home - grocery workers, bus drivers, janitors, pharmacists, bank tellers, postal carriers, delivery drivers, etc.

Or perhaps a prompt related to someone (a person, a group, a role, a job) for whom you have a new appreciation for after this COVID-19 experience.


message 332: by Jill (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 1356 comments ladymurmur wrote: "The discussion around the medical theme and prompts inspired by the pandemic started me thinking - what about a prompt related to the front-line or essential workers? Not only the medical professio..."

I really like that idea.


message 333: by °~Amy~° (new)

°~Amy~° (amybooksit) I think any reference back to 2020 is probably going to be a hard sell in the voting. I know that I want to use the list as an escape and a learning opportunity, not a reminder of open wounds. Maybe in 4 or 5 years I'll be ready to reminisce and reflect, but 6 months from now, probably not.


message 334: by Robin P, Orbicular Mod (new)

Robin P | 4017 comments Mod
A prompt around a job could be more general like "a book about a job you appreciate" or "a book about a job you would like to have" or "a book about a job you would never want to have".


message 335: by Irene (new)

Irene (irene5) | 919 comments Robin wrote: "A prompt around a job could be more general like "a book about a job you appreciate" or "a book about a job you would like to have" or "a book about a job you would never want to have"."

I kind of love "a book about a job you'd never want to have" because it's so unique!! Or "a book about a job you appreciate" because there's a lot of overlap between those two when thinking about it in the context of COVID19.

For example, I would never want to be a politician personally, and the pandemic really drives that home for me because of the decisions they have to make regarding public health and all that, and being blamed for problems.


message 336: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
Yea I would definitely steer away from directly mentioning 2020 at all in this list 😂 I like the "job you would enjoy having" or "job you would never want to have" (which feels a bit like our place you'd never want to live this year)


message 337: by Kelly Sj (new)

Kelly Sj | 483 comments There haven't been many (or any?) prompt suggestions related to characters in the voting yet. I know character prompts are difficult - maybe something like "a character that is similar to you in some way" could work? That would leave open options for career, hobby, lifestyle, identity, age, family, etc...


message 338: by Jackie, Solstitial Mod (new)

Jackie | 2492 comments Mod
I like the 'job you would never want to have'; I think popsugar had a prompt a couple years ago about a book where the main character has the same job as you. It was freaking impossible by the way unless you're like a teacher or a lawyer, because most authors don't write about people who just have normal office jobs. This seems way more achievable.


message 339: by Jill (last edited Jul 08, 2020 08:09AM) (new)

Jill (dogbotsmum) | 1356 comments I have found that there are I lot of people I never really appreciated before all this lockdown started. Our binmen (I think you call them trash collectors) have come every week to take away people's soiled rubbish. The newsboy has left a paper every day so we could know what was happening. The cashiers in the supermarkets have gone into work so that we were able to buy our essentials. The transport workers have been there to get people into work for those that couldn't work from home. So maybe the prompt should read A book about a group of people doing a job we normally take for granted.
This could be either fiction or non-fiction


message 340: by Joyce (new)

Joyce | 614 comments When "We Didn't Start The Fire" was suggested last year I immediately thought of REM's "It's The End Of The World As We Know (And I Feel Fine)" as another contender for lyrics with a lot of choices.
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/rem/i...

Since Don McLean is clearly problematic maybe it's another contender. However, even though it came back into the charts in the UK recently, it's not everyone's idea of a song for our times.


message 341: by Suzanne (new)

Suzanne | 349 comments Towards the end of the list creation last year, I had suggested a prompt related to a google doodle. See:
https://www.google.com/doodles. I was thinking of suggesting it again like this: A book related to a person featured in a Google doodle in 2020. It is similar in some ways to the song lyric prompt from this year.


message 342: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) I like that idea, Suzanne. They put some pretty interesting things in the google doodles.


message 343: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
A good BIO (or maybe just to limit the prompt a bit) can be a doodle from an important date for you (birthday, anniversary, date you adopted your dog, etc.)


message 344: by Steve (new)

Steve | 615 comments Suzanne wrote: "Towards the end of the list creation last year, I had suggested a prompt related to a google doodle. See:
https://www.google.com/doodles. I was thinking of suggesting it again like this: A book r..."


I don't know if I mentioned it at the time, but last year, one of my students won the state of NJ for Google's studnt Doodle contest. He was then a top 5 finalist. I got to coordinate the ceremony at our school with Google. It was awesome!

Here's his drawing: https://www.burlingtoncountytimes.com...


message 345: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
Steve, that is SO COOL.


message 346: by Sara (new)

Sara (phantomswife) Yes, Steve, super cool.


message 347: by Serendipity (new)

Serendipity | 441 comments Robin wrote: "Sara wrote: "Yes, I was tying it to a specific event...but that event would allow for reading a book set in Egypt, written by an Egyptian, set in a museum or about a museum, related to archeology. ..."


message 348: by Serendipity (new)

Serendipity | 441 comments Laura wrote: "I would still love to see a prompt related to the group reading map, just because that project has really shown the areas that tend to be underrepresented.

It’s been exciting seeing South America..."


I really need to post in that thread. I see I've read at least a couple of the countries that haven't been read in two years.


message 349: by Serendipity (new)

Serendipity | 441 comments I'm still working on my prompt idea playing off this year's "book nominated for one of the ten most coveted literary awards". I was originally going with "a book nominated for a lesser-known literary prize" but then a wording change to "A book that won an award that you had never heard of” was suggested.

Now I'm thinking of combining them to "A book nominated for a lesser known (by you or others) literary prize".

Any thoughts or comments are welcome. I've got a long list of prizes and awards, with plenty of options that aren't American or literary fiction.

Posted is all drafted - just ready to cut and paste in, hopefully in round 3.


message 350: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments I definitely would prefer it not to be "never heard of" as otherwise I have to go hunting for something obscure. I'm happy for people to determine what counts as lesser known for themselves.


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