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message 1801: by Thomas (new)

Thomas It was partially metaphorical. Also back then it was not uncommon to leave a key outside so the kids could get in the house whereas no one would risk that now


message 1802: by Thomas (new)

Thomas No my friend who got her house key at 16 was deemed to have an “ incredibly strict mom”


message 1803: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments Johanne wrote: "Oh okay, so it's not a tradition anymore?"

I felt like those who still do it aren't giving their house key but just a random key as a symbolic gesture?

Ironically I only got given a house key after I'd moved out, but I did live in the middle of nowhere so I never really needed it.


message 1804: by Kat (new)

Kat | 567 comments When you go to bingo in the UK most numbers have a little saying. 22 is two little ducks, 13 is unlucky for some etc.

It's not really a tradition anymore to get an actual key but when you turn 21 a lot of the cards etc. will have a key on to symbolise this. I think the initial intent is that around this age you would get married and move out and were classed as an adult in your own right.


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Kim (kmyers) | 539 comments Steve wrote: "Ellie wrote: "Kim wrote: "I don't understand what "A book related to the bingo call for 21 "key to the door" means - specifically the bingo call for 21 part. Could someone explain that to me? Thank..."

Thanks!


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Kim (kmyers) | 539 comments Ellie wrote: "Kim wrote: "I don't understand what "A book related to the bingo call for 21 "key to the door" means - specifically the bingo call for 21 part. Could someone explain that to me? Thanks!"

In bingo ..."


Thank you!


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Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1668 comments Thanks for your explanations, that makes sense.


message 1808: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (new)

Pamela | 2489 comments Mod
annie wrote: "i am so in love with a lot of the prompts being suggested here!

i love expanding the nun prompt to include priests & other religious figures. there's definitely some books with priests on my tbr...."


I'm really sad the non-European royalty prompt didn't make it but would vote for it again!


message 1809: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (new)

Pamela | 2489 comments Mod
So here's a prompt I'm thinking of but would it upset people?

Because next year is 21, a book related to alcohol. But would people be upset thinking its promoting alcohol or something (as far as I'm concerned- anything goes and books about the bad parts of alchoholsm are just as good. I would probably read something about bootleggers. Or by Dorothy Parker.


message 1810: by Thomas (new)

Thomas I think specifically alcohol is very US centric. Not many other countries have a drinking age that high


message 1811: by Thomas (new)

Thomas is it today the next results come out?


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Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments I don't think the prompt itself (a book related to alcohol) is US centric? You don't have to read anything American for it. Although it does tie in with the end of prohibition doesn't it (21st amendment was mentioned at some point)?


message 1813: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Ellie wrote: "I don't think the prompt itself (a book related to alcohol) is US centric? You don't have to read anything American for it. Although it does tie in with the end of prohibition doesn't it (21st amen..."

Yeah but the link between alcohol and 21 is purely US given UK people drink at 18 and most of Europe is even lower it jsut feels to me that if the point is to link the prompt to 21 then it becomes US centric.


message 1814: by Bryony (last edited Oct 16, 2020 09:41AM) (new)

Bryony (bryony46) | 1081 comments Thomas wrote: "is it today the next results come out?"

Yes, that’s right, they’ll be posted today.

The full schedule is in the introduction thread if you ever want to check when results are posted or suggestions open.


message 1815: by Steve (new)

Steve | 615 comments Ellie wrote: "I don't think the prompt itself (a book related to alcohol) is US centric? You don't have to read anything American for it. Although it does tie in with the end of prohibition doesn't it (21st amen..."

Yes, 21st amendment repealed the prohibition of alcohol. And 21 is also the legal drinking age in the US. So the prompt itself wouldn't be US-centric if phrased as "A book related to alcohol", but the rationale for suggesting it (that it ties into the drinking age/amendment) is US-centric.


message 1816: by Lin (last edited Oct 16, 2020 09:41AM) (new)

Lin (linnola) | 557 comments It's mainly the US with the restriction of 21. All of the Caribbean countries/islands we have visited during cruises, the drinking age was 18 or so.
The cruse ship drinking age is determined by it's home port's law.


message 1817: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Steve wrote: "Ellie wrote: "I don't think the prompt itself (a book related to alcohol) is US centric? You don't have to read anything American for it. Although it does tie in with the end of prohibition doesn't..."

Exactly.


message 1818: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments Yes, Thomas. Be patient, the mods have lives too!


message 1819: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments I'm not American by the way. I still get the connection.


message 1820: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
Notes from the Poll 18 Results thread:

- We are *assuming* Poll 19 will be our last poll, with results posted on Thursday, October 22
- The final list order will be posted the day after our last results poll, with planning threads opening that same day
- In the days following, the mods will begin opening the weekly threads for you to start talking about which books you intend on reading for each prompt
- These weekly threads will be posted as the mods have time to post them, and they may not necessarily be in order, so please be patient with us :)


message 1821: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2992 comments It will do us good to have them rationed Emily 🤣 thank you and the mods for all your work.


message 1822: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Emily wrote: "Notes from the Poll 18 Results thread:

- We are *assuming* Poll 19 will be our last poll, with results posted on Thursday, October 22
- The final list order will be posted the day after our last r..."


Just curious....are you planning to set up some type of thread for a NATO Alphabet side challenge?


message 1823: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11215 comments Mod
We don't normally post side challenges, so feel free to start one yourself in the Outside Challenges folder.

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group...


message 1824: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments Sue wrote: "I don't understand the negativity around "freebies", which might represent a challenge that's a very easy choice for some, but quite a difficult one for others. I love it when I can choose from a w..."

For me, the fun part of the challenge is the planning. I like trying to be creative (even if I'm not at all) to fit everything I want to read for 2021 into my challenge. If I have a prompt that includes 100 books on my TBR, the planning portion is less fun to me and is why I tend to downvote prompts I think are "freebies". I also don't want to read books I have no interest in, but I want to feel like I thought it through.

That said, I don't think there is anything wrong when people want to vote for freebies. I definitely understand your point, but that's the beauty of this process. We all approach voting and how we view the prompts differently, but still come out with a balanced list that I think makes the majority happy.


message 1825: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (new)

Pamela | 2489 comments Mod
Thomas wrote: "I think specifically alcohol is very US centric. Not many other countries have a drinking age that high"

The tie-in to 21 is American, but alcohol (or alcoholism) is global. One of the books I would be considering reading for this week is Widow Cliquot


message 1826: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments I am hopefully going to be sleeping when the Suggestions thread goes up tomorrow. Would someone mind submitting my prompt? This is what I was thinking of writing:

A book related to the 21st _____

In a similar spirit to choose-your-own-adventure books, let's have a choose-your-own-adventure prompt! You can choose what to put into the blank. Some suggestions include: birthday, anniversary, amendment, element, book on your TBR, century


message 1827: by Kelly Sj (new)

Kelly Sj | 483 comments Alicia, I would but I'll be out in the woods with no internet!


message 1828: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Alicia wrote: "I am hopefully going to be sleeping when the Suggestions thread goes up tomorrow. Would someone mind submitting my prompt? This is what I was thinking of writing:

A book related to the 21st _____
..."

Happy too


message 1829: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments Kelly that sounds amazing! I'm jelaous.

Thanks Thomas!


message 1830: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Alicia wrote: "Kelly that sounds amazing! I'm jelaous.

Thanks Thomas!"

Your welcome.


message 1831: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments There are two prompts I'd like to see in tomorrow's suggestion thread. I don't know if I'll be around during the time when the thread is active so if someone wants to submit one (or both) of them, that'd be great!

a book featuring a member of a religious organization (nun, priest, pastor, rabbi, imam, monk, etc.)

a book about a ruler of any country, excluding Britain

Thanks!


message 1832: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments Emily or other mods, is there an approximate time the next suggestions thread will open?


message 1833: by Beth (new)

Beth | 450 comments The results thread said around 8am CST


message 1834: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments I missed that, thank you.


message 1835: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1668 comments @Dalex, was that meant as the royalty prompt? Because a lot of royalty don't rule in 2020. Not to discourage you, just to say I feel the wording 'non-British ruler' would lead me toward presidents and prime ministers, not royalty.


message 1836: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Hi is there anywhere I can find a complete list please?


message 1837: by Nancy (last edited Oct 16, 2020 01:02PM) (new)


message 1838: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Johanne wrote: "@Dalex, was that meant as the royalty prompt? Because a lot of royalty don't rule in 2020. Not to discourage you, just to say I feel the wording 'non-British ruler' would lead me toward presidents ..."

That was someone's suggested wording and I thought others agreed to it but I don't see any reason it couldn't be reworded to "a book involving royalty of any country, excluding Britain."


message 1839: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 1668 comments I saw the discussion, but didn't really know where the wording ended. Just wanted to let you know how I would interpret it, if I hadn't seen the discussion first.


message 1840: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments Could we just say "book involving non-British royalty"? I would think the "of any country" part would be a given.


message 1841: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Alicia wrote: "Could we just say "book involving non-British royalty"? I would think the "of any country" part would be a given."

I think that's actually how it start out before it got reworded. Ha!

If someone want to figure out how to phrase the prompt and wants to submit it, please do so.


message 1842: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2646 comments Emily wrote: "We don't normally post side challenges, so feel free to start one yourself in the Outside Challenges folder.

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group..."


Perfect thanks! I shall do so.


message 1843: by Tina (new)

Tina | 13 comments Sorry for the dumb question, but what does having a wildcard mean? Is it getting rid of one prompt or swapping one for another?


message 1844: by Thomas (new)

Thomas Tina wrote: "Sorry for the dumb question, but what does having a wildcard mean? Is it getting rid of one prompt or swapping one for another?"

You drop one prompt yes but I am not sure what the rules are about what you replace it with.


message 1845: by Beth (new)

Beth | 450 comments A wildcard basically means a free read. So if a prompt doesn't work for you or you don't have anything you want to read for it then you can just use that week to read anything you want, it doesn't have to fit another prompt or anything like that.


message 1846: by Tina (new)

Tina | 13 comments Okay, thank you both


message 1847: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments You also don't have to use a wildcard.

The challenge is really up to you: how hard or how easy you want to make it. I've found the group is really supportive of everyone no matter which route they take.


message 1848: by Avery (new)

Avery (averyapproved) | 475 comments I am hoping to suggest the Fibonacci Sequence prompt tomorrow if I wake up in time! Looks like we may get a fun batch of suggestions tomorrow. Too bad there’s only 2 spots left now!


message 1849: by Irene (new)

Irene (irene5) | 919 comments Alicia wrote: "For me, the fun part of the challenge is the planning. I like trying to be creative (even if I'm not at all) to fit everything I want to read for 2021 into my challenge. If I have a prompt that includes 100 books on my TBR..."

Alicia, you and I think exactly alike!! Planning and list-making is by far the most fun part of the process for me with any reading challenge, so the only reason I don't like freebies is that it's one less prompt I can have a fun scavenger hunt with. But I suppose every well-rounded list needs at least a few of these!


message 1850: by Irene (new)

Irene (irene5) | 919 comments Avery wrote: "I am hoping to suggest the Fibonacci Sequence prompt tomorrow if I wake up in time! Looks like we may get a fun batch of suggestions tomorrow. Too bad there’s only 2 spots left now!"

I don't think I'll be up, but I hope you or someone else can suggest this one since it's genuinely creative!!


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