Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
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Am I the only one who didn't like Ginny- much less the Ginny/Harry pairing?
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Dec 31, 2014 07:37AM
Nia wrote: "Mary wrote: "I think that it was because it was a difference in Harry's time hanging out with Ginny. Suddenly they're thrown to each other in DA. It wasn't like he gradually started hanging out wit..."
Sure they had some scenes together... but that did not give us any idea that Harry liked Ginny, much less to warm us to the idea. Sure Ginny was around a lot in Ootp but Harry was a lot into Cho, distracted by Voldemort in his head, Snape in his head, Dumbledore ignoring him and Sirius in danger. Harry has been pining over Cho since book 4.. Now all of a sudden HPB starts and he is sooo infatuated with Ginny and jealous of Dean. It was awkward, not very well done and I just didn't care about the pair of them.
Ginny has been a background character through most of the series- then suddenly she's all in our face telling Harry what to do and what not to do- which only Hermione and Ron does. It was really annoying, especially the attitude she had in Ootp that she had a right to know what Harry was up to and that she tag along.
Also the attitude that she understood Harry and had him all figured out to lecture him in Ootp (has Hermione would do) is not believable. When exactly did she had the time to draw all these conclusions about him- when she was always on the sidelines and never really hung out with the trio much. She couldn't even have a decent conversation with Harry. All of a sudden she is badass and cool.
I think JK was tryin to create this image of a strong girl that harry needed (Opposite to Cho) but it took too long to develop it so that we got use to it. 5 books in was just too late.
I didn't like her- at all.
Sure they had some scenes together... but that did not give us any idea that Harry liked Ginny, much less to warm us to the idea. Sure Ginny was around a lot in Ootp but Harry was a lot into Cho, distracted by Voldemort in his head, Snape in his head, Dumbledore ignoring him and Sirius in danger. Harry has been pining over Cho since book 4.. Now all of a sudden HPB starts and he is sooo infatuated with Ginny and jealous of Dean. It was awkward, not very well done and I just didn't care about the pair of them.
Ginny has been a background character through most of the series- then suddenly she's all in our face telling Harry what to do and what not to do- which only Hermione and Ron does. It was really annoying, especially the attitude she had in Ootp that she had a right to know what Harry was up to and that she tag along.
Also the attitude that she understood Harry and had him all figured out to lecture him in Ootp (has Hermione would do) is not believable. When exactly did she had the time to draw all these conclusions about him- when she was always on the sidelines and never really hung out with the trio much. She couldn't even have a decent conversation with Harry. All of a sudden she is badass and cool.
I think JK was tryin to create this image of a strong girl that harry needed (Opposite to Cho) but it took too long to develop it so that we got use to it. 5 books in was just too late.
I didn't like her- at all.
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Honestly I like the pairing in that it makes Harry (by marriage) truly part of the Weasley family, which from book one on, was what Harry always wanted.
However, I agree with the original poster that the development of Ginny's character and their relationship was roughshod compared to Ron and Hermione's.
However, I agree with the original poster that the development of Ginny's character and their relationship was roughshod compared to Ron and Hermione's.
I wasn't thrilled about the pairing either, but it was the easiest way to make Harry and Hermione a part of the Weasleys. And that made up for the lackluster courtship. Dating would have been hard on Harry outside of Hermione or Ginny. He was a wizarding celebrity. Everyone wants a piece of you, but who really knows you? Or wants you for you?
i didn't liked it at all. where do i begin? i've always thought that hermione would've been the perfect girl for her and i saw that coming since the first book but when this happebed i got so dissapointed and i also didn't like that hermione was ron's girlfriend because he's kind of awkward his perfect match would've been luna and i think hermione would have been the perfect girl for harry but i guess JK was a little drunk when she decided that haha.
no one was quite thrilled with this pairing...and even their romance was short lived..but harry was still pining away for her in the deathly hallows
I don't ship them actually, I ship Harry and Hermione until now. I also hated the Harry and Cho pairing. *sigh*
even though I loved the series,I just kept think and still do that when she put Harry and Ginny together,that it was James and lily all over again.
I know many people 'shipped Harry & Hermione, but it seemed fairly obvious from the start that Ron & Hermione were a pair and just didn't know it yet.
Ginny, as fairly pointed out, didn't get much direct development, but I felt that from book 2 on it was also fairly clear that she and Harry had a destiny together.
I totally see what would appeal to Harry:
1) Similar interests, including Quidditch.
2) Someone he knows and is comfortable (ish) around; knows him and not just "famous Harry Potter"
3) is part of the family he wishes was his
4) I always got a hint that she reminded him of his mother in some way (though I'd have to dig for this textually)
5) independent, fierce, loyal, and a skillful witch
6) bonded by their experiences with Voldemort
Also, keep in mind, we don't really see the story of their mature, adult relationship. We see its beginnings in the teen years and we get a flash forward to when they are married and sending the kids off to school.
The road between dating and the altar can be a bumpy one, and I would bet there was much development there that decided that they wanted to be together and why that we are not (and may never be) privy to.
Ginny, as fairly pointed out, didn't get much direct development, but I felt that from book 2 on it was also fairly clear that she and Harry had a destiny together.
I totally see what would appeal to Harry:
1) Similar interests, including Quidditch.
2) Someone he knows and is comfortable (ish) around; knows him and not just "famous Harry Potter"
3) is part of the family he wishes was his
4) I always got a hint that she reminded him of his mother in some way (though I'd have to dig for this textually)
5) independent, fierce, loyal, and a skillful witch
6) bonded by their experiences with Voldemort
Also, keep in mind, we don't really see the story of their mature, adult relationship. We see its beginnings in the teen years and we get a flash forward to when they are married and sending the kids off to school.
The road between dating and the altar can be a bumpy one, and I would bet there was much development there that decided that they wanted to be together and why that we are not (and may never be) privy to.
I like Ginny as a character. She's clever, brave, sporty, strong...she's her own person, she really grows into a fantastic young woman.
But I don't enjoy the Harry/Ginny pairing either. It just didn't build up, not like Hermione and Ron. When they became a couple it felt really random and unnecessary. It was even weirder when they got married.
But I don't enjoy the Harry/Ginny pairing either. It just didn't build up, not like Hermione and Ron. When they became a couple it felt really random and unnecessary. It was even weirder when they got married.
I have nothing against Ginny as a character but yeah, I don't ship Harry/Ginny. It felt their romance was a rush. I've always shipped Harry/Hermione however in the long run I accept their relationship as it is...bestfriends forever through thick and thin!!!
Remember how Ginny liked Harry immediately? She couldn't talk around him, put her elbow in the butter. I thought the Cho relationship was really forced, and the one with Ginny evolved from a friendship. Ginny was independent--broke into the broom shed to used Fred and George's brooms to practice Quiddich. And she didn't cry all the time. I think Hermione had tears in her eyes or cried 1,000 times during the books. I can't see Harry ended up with a crier. Or maybe that's just me. :)
Ron and Hermione were set up from the first book -- lots of teenage tension, they weren't sure how they felt, then one would get mad for awhile. If Harry had ended up with Hermione, it would have been boring. Two really responsible people.
Ron and Hermione were set up from the first book -- lots of teenage tension, they weren't sure how they felt, then one would get mad for awhile. If Harry had ended up with Hermione, it would have been boring. Two really responsible people.
I agree with the overall sentiment: Harry and Ginny were not a well-developed relationship, and it felt sudden and forced. Ginny was never well fleshed out as a character in her own right, and felt more like a vehicle to show Ron's development and views on relationships.
And someone can be family without having to marry into it; that's a VERY weak rationale for why H/G would work. Considering what Harry and the Weasley's went through together, they considered him family (and vice-versa) well before he and Ginny even hooked up. Names do not a family make: love does.
And someone can be family without having to marry into it; that's a VERY weak rationale for why H/G would work. Considering what Harry and the Weasley's went through together, they considered him family (and vice-versa) well before he and Ginny even hooked up. Names do not a family make: love does.
Personally, I liked the pairing of Ginny and Harry. I felt that Rowling built up to the relationship, but extremely subtly. From the first time that Harry stays at Ron's, Rowling made it clear how Ginny felt about Harry. I also remember reading Half-Blood Prince, when Harry makes the love potion for Professor Slughorn. The scent his potion emits reminds him of the Weasley's house (I think it's freshly cut grass and...something else. I can't completely remember). There are also times throughout the series when Harry struggles with feelings of protectiveness for Ginny as she dates other guys.
I thought the pairing of Ron and Hermione was more strange than the pairing of Harry and Ginny. Sure, it's clear that Ron likes Hermione because of the jealousy he displays when she is dating Krum. However, I don't ever remember a point in the book that Hermione betrays feelings of anything other than brotherly love/friendship for Ron. Then again, Hermione thinks/acts more with her head than her heart so her behavior kind of makes sense.
I thought the pairing of Ron and Hermione was more strange than the pairing of Harry and Ginny. Sure, it's clear that Ron likes Hermione because of the jealousy he displays when she is dating Krum. However, I don't ever remember a point in the book that Hermione betrays feelings of anything other than brotherly love/friendship for Ron. Then again, Hermione thinks/acts more with her head than her heart so her behavior kind of makes sense.
I wish we had a harry/hermione pairing and maybe ron could go with lavender or padma or something. I like ginny but the pairing is a bit weird.
I was okay with Ginny as a character but I agree she wasn't as well developed as a character who would have fit Harry well as a partner. I personally would have loved Harry with Hermione but that would have left Ron out and I did like the fact that they all fit into the Weasly family. I just think Ginny should have been developed better so that we could have seen the relationship as a great fit rather than as it seemed, somewhat as an afterthought.
I agree. I did always think Harry and Hermione should be together but I'm not the writer. I do, however, think that J.K. didn't think it through very well and just kind of threw HP and Ginny together all of a sudden. She didn't do a great job at showing the connection the two had and then making that grow. But I agree with Brooklyn, Harry always wanted to be a part of the Weasleys. They seem like a good family and a perfect fit for him :)
I liked Ginny fine as her own character, the pairing was terrible in my opinion though. It had a bad vibe, like something wasn't quite right. It still annoys me. It's so.... off.
Problem is obvious, that there wasnt anyone for Ron. If there was, Harry wouldnt have to end up with Ginny. I think everyone thought Harry and Hermione were meant to be together, me included. But in order to get this work, either get Ron killed or find him different girl.
Personally, I always thought Ron would be killed of, and H+H will be together. But since this didnt happen, Ginny was most obvious choice. And she is good enough to be Mrs.Potter in the end.
Personally, I always thought Ron would be killed of, and H+H will be together. But since this didnt happen, Ginny was most obvious choice. And she is good enough to be Mrs.Potter in the end.
I sooo agree with you Sammeh! Ginny was never an important character and then we have to read about a weird relationship between her and Harry!! And she's so full of herself!She doesn't know anything about the trio but has an opinion about everything!I wish that they would have broken up after the war!
I personally greatly enjoyed reading how Ginny grew up and how Harry and Ginny grow together and fall in love.
I think that it indeed was too rushed, but the books show that Ginny has had a crush on Harry for a very long time. I think that once Harry showed interest, she tried to make him feel the way she did when she liked him. The Harry/Ginny pairing felt weird, I think mainly because Rowling just rushed it too quickly.
I thought it was an odd pairing, but given how much time they spent together it did make some sense that something would arise after a time. Harry didn't get a chance to get close to many people unfortunately. Let us remember how much time was spent together off the pages and how much of a difference five years makes - by book five she had caught up to him in maturity.
Though no, I wasn't too thrilled at the pairing. I thought he could do better.
Though no, I wasn't too thrilled at the pairing. I thought he could do better.
I do think that the way Rowling attempted to implement Ginny into the story (her personality, her relationship with Harry, etc.) felt sudden and as a consequence felt forced. Ginny has never really... existed- at least, never in the way she might've been meant to. I didn't mind her in the second book, but as Harry became attracted to her she seemed to hold less personality. The whole "tough girl" approach has become so generic in this day and age that I found it difficult to take Ginny seriously. She wasn't particularly awful, but she never stood out either. Rowling was generally good at making characters count when it came to the Harry Potter series- she knew how to make them stand out in realistic ways- and although Ginny may be deemed as "realistic" given the family she grew up in, this doesn't serve to make her unique.
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