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What life lessons did this teach you?
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...to follow your heart despite what others might think ans say.

And another lesson will be that love is the strongest feeling from all, That it can get throw everything, even death.



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-but is that kind of obsessive, possessive attitude really love?

-but is that kind of..."
Yeah, Heathcliff loved her alright, for me that was kind of the point, possessive love that is so often portrayed in classical literature is a lot more destructive than people like to think.

Hate to go all Nietzsche on you but love is always in part about owning someone, you want exclusive rights to them and their body, that's why you get jealous when other people flirt with your partner, when someone you love is with someone else you get jealous because you want to own them. I'm not saying love is always like that but part of loving someone is wanting to "own" them in certain aspects.

Well he never had her physically but emotionally she was his. She says as much throughout the pages. But she chose the money because she needed it to take care of herself and him. In her mind, because she loved him and had the means to provide for him she must do so. No one wants to see the person they love suffer.

Upper class women were expected to be so delicate that they could die of a chill. Even Charlotte B's heroines (particularly Jane) were brought to death's doorstep by missing a couple of meals and being out in the rain, although Jane was young, healthy and strong at the time. "Delicate" meant "true lady."



This taught me that people are or can be bound to someone in a spirtual way without them being lovers or family. I says to me about the power or friendship.

" Never betray who you are for being accepted by society."
"Don't let your hate consume you.""
Wow! This is exactly right.
Mary wrote: "If you are an adult, act like one. If someone is toxic to you in any way, stay away from them. Linton's sister got a bad deal all around. I wonder why her brother was so horrible to her? He complet..."
I don't think she knew that at the time.
I don't think she knew that at the time.

I don't think that Heathcliff is 'undoubtedly a bad person', he was just an extremest who didn't know how to react to the intense feelings that he was experiencing.
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Also she knew she was seriously ill and refused to see a doctor until she was actually dying.


If you have an Ebook, you can find some biographies on Project Gutenberg, for free. Mrs Gaskell's biography of Charlotte is a good place to start. There's also a book by a friend of M. Heger (Charlotte's unrequited love) that is interesting.

True but she picked the rich guy LOL"
I wasn't talking about the character, though. Heathcliff is a terrible, terrible person but somehow he's popular with many female readers.


I agree



Literally? Really? I didn't realise that Wuthering Heights was sci-fi, though it's pretty alien to me....





True but unfortunately if one doesn't get love that makes it harder to know how to give it.



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