Red Rising
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Red Rising movie in the works
I hope this book does become movie. Its one of the few books I have read that I think should be put on the big screen without destroying the story. They better not edit out smoking like they do in so many other movies. Censorship really pisses me off when they turn book to movie.
This book can be a great movie IF:1. they dont cut out all the sex, rape, blood, medical surgery, torture, death and gore. In fact i'd even go as close as making it into a horror movie. A horror fantasy story would be something new and exciting.
2. they dont make it kiddy friendly (aka young-adult) because they are afraid to lose tons of money if it's above PG13
3. the actors are good, not some random kiddos who never done a movie in their lives
4. they dont skip half the book and change things because they need to fit into 120min of a movie. Just make it 3h, skip the 3D, and never skip or change anything from the original story. People HATE when the story gets changed, I dont get how Hollywood never gets it.
5. And if anyone in this movie sparkles, like in Twilight, I will freak out. You can do the golden race also without twinkly girly golden makeup (golden eyeshadow on guys is ridiculous).
hey better not edit out smoking like they do in so many other movies. Censorship really pisses me off when they turn book to movie.really the smoking? Honestly I'm not even sure I remember smoking in the book. I'll relisten to my audio book on the flight home
1. they dont cut out all the sex, rape, blood, medical surgery, torture, death and gore. In fact i'd even go as close as making it into a horror movie. A horror fantasy story would be something new and exciting.I dunno very few of the rapes scenes do i feel are germane to the plot. The surgery will be montaged because of time concerns. That one lady who hated him after his lazarus resurrection will be a minor role because there's no way there will be time to do it properly.
2. they dont make it kiddy friendly (aka young-adult) because they are afraid to lose tons of money if it's above PG13yeah.. i don't see it.
3 hours? no. Freaking Catching Fire was a bloody long movie almost as long as the second Pirates Movie or a Transformers movie.
I don't know how I feel about this. Hollywood has ruined many of my fav. books when they made them into movies. They just don't capture the story of the book right and they definitely don't do it justice.
If Hollywood ruins this I will have to invite the producers to my own private institute. :)There are too many vital parts of this book that might get editted out. This will actually crush me. I will have to watch it if they make it. But, I will be disappointed because Hollywood screws up everything and I may have to jump on a table at one of their banquets and shout about how I've been wronged and challenge the director to a fight with razors.
Hollywood screws up everything and I may have to jump on a table at one of their banquets and shout about how I've been wronged and challenge the director to a fight with razors. "^^ this
I'm afraid that they're going to cut out a lot of the gore and make it too child-friendly, and I certainly hope they portray his Carving into a Gold better than Captain America's transformation, but with Pierce Brown writing the script, I am fairly certain we can trust him not cut out anything unimportant. After all, he IS the freaking author for crying out loud!
Marie wrote: "This book can be a great movie IF:1. they dont cut out all the sex, rape, blood, medical surgery, torture, death and gore. In fact i'd even go as close as making it into a horror movie. A horror f..."
Yes yes a thousand times yes.
where are the trailers and all the info? I can't seem to find anything about a movie for Red Rising other than here!
There is info on imdb.com but it's in the works so not much info.
About the smoking: their word for cigarettes is "burners". They use it quite often. I'm curious to see how they will turn this into a movie. I fear they'll make it PG-13 and leave out a lot of the detail about the Institute, turning a brilliant story into a cash cow. Then again, if Pierce Brown is doing the script himself, I fully trust his opinion on what should or shouldn't be in the movie.
I agree with Wolfkin in that I don't think brushing over things like the rape would make that huge of a deal. We didn't get to see any rape in the book, it was just talked of, and talking about it in the movie doesn't make it over PG-13. There would be no reason to add in a scene like that that wasn't in the book just for the sake of adding it in. As for the burners, yeah... you can't really take those out.
And the gore? Sure a lot of gory things happened, but I don't feel like it was the driving force in the book. Pierce didn't really describe it in detail and put a lot of emphasis on it (at least in my opinion) he was more just like 'eh, this happened' so I doubt it would be a huge deal wether it was emphasized or not in the movie. But lol. A horror movie? How graphic did you guys think this novel was? In my opinion I think that's pushing it a little :P
Anyways, I've got mixed feelings on the movie for this book, but it should be interesting to see how it turns out.
This is a perfect book for an imagination packed sci-fi special effects movie, the dark mines to the bloody institute to olympus to Gold paradise. Sex, violence, carving, revolution all against the backdop of evil. A gorydamn sensory field day. Can't wait.
I don;t think they should show any rape, but they should mention it like they did in the book. It helps to show how privileged the Golds are, that they get so indignant about being used the same way they use others (the Pinks).They definitely shouldn't skimp on the blood though, that's needed to contrast the lives of luxury of the pixies with the Iron Golds. Also, I want to see Darrow punch a hole in Julius's chest.
I'd prefer that they make his made up backstory in the book to be his real backstory in the movie. For some reason the starting premise always seemed a bit ridiculous to me.
Tom wrote: "I'd prefer that they make his made up backstory in the book to be his real backstory in the movie. For some reason the starting premise always seemed a bit ridiculous to me."But that would change his whole character development and motivation, the reason he joined the Sons of Ares and why he hates Nero so much. It would need a whole bunch of further changes just to make sense.
I'm not so sure. While I do get that the back story places the focus on class warfare, which makes the story internally cohesive and compelling. However, a "barbarians at the gate" sort of storyline (as what happened to ancient Rome) wouldn't be out of line.
But everything is built around Eo's dream, to live for more. It influences his relationships with a number of major characters in a huge way.Mostly though, I think it's just a really unnecessary change. I don't think there's any reason at all to alter the story like that.
Fair enough. An agreement to disagree then.
That is reasonable./shakes hand/
I'm terrified of Hollywood touching this. :(
Tom wrote: "I'd prefer that they make his made up backstory in the book to be his real backstory in the movie. For some reason the starting premise always seemed a bit ridiculous to me."I don't think that with Pierce writing the screenplay that he will change Darrow's backstory. His inspiration for writing Red Rising did not start with Darrow but rather with Eo so I can't see him leaving her out of the movie.
Who thinks this should be a CG movie?? I don't see how real actors and make up can pull this off.
Jackie wrote: "Who thinks this should be a CG movie?? I don't see how real actors and make up can pull this off."There's no way they're going to make this CG. Firstly, there's no need to, and it would seriously jar with the tone of the story. Secondly, the other YA trilogies have all been successful as live-action, and thirdly, that would probably take longer than live-action and not look as good.
MegaSolipsistThere's no way they're going to make this CG. Firstly, there's no need to, and it ..."
Have you seen the new Halo trailer? I feel that this trilogy differs INCREDIBLY from the other dystopian trilogies in scale, scope, the fact that the actor has to go from 5 foot nothing to seven foot, the people have to be godly beautiful and GOLD and not look like regular humans with makeup on. Not to mention Pax? RAGNAR? C'mon, man. Hollywood actors will just muck it all up and make it not fantastical enough - in my opinion.
Jackie wrote: "MegaSolipsistHave you seen the new Halo trailer? I feel that this trilogy differs INCREDIBLY from the other..."
The trailer does look really good, but it will take a long time and a lot of money to make a movie with CG that high quality. Frozen cost $150m, which is a higher budget than a lot of action movies, even some Marvel movies, and if you want a CG Red Rising, I'm assuming you want animation better and more realistic than that.
The first Captain America movie did a similar transformation (although hopefully they don't CGI Darrow's head onto a tiny body), so its definitely doable.
To look gold all they need is a wig, come contacts and a bit of make-up. The whole point of Hollywood make-up artists is to make the main characters look beautiful. I suspect the movie will play down the golden skin a bit.
For Ragnar they could use Hafthór Júlíus Björnsson (or some of his body-builder friends) and use some forced perspective shots as well, like they did in Lord of the Rings.
As for the actors, well, that's in the hands of the gods. Hollywood is taking YA trilogies a lot more seriously now, since Hunger Games became so successful. I think that all we can do in regards to the actors is cross our fingers.
I will give you the money issue. I know nothing they produce in Hollywood with actors will live up to my expectations, so I'm just bumming about it. Sometimes a good book just needs to stay that way, until it can truly be brought to life on screen.
will it be a movie only about red rising or also the golden son?
Idk bout the movie because to be good it should be rated r but it appeals to a younger audience so im not really sure. But this was such a good book that if it sucks then just cancel the whole movie all together.
They would have to age the characters to attract the adult audience they would garner with an R rating. They did the same for Ender's Game and the Giver and COUNTLESS other YA books turned into movies. So how old can the characters be and still have the movie make sense?
I guess they could put them in their early twenties. I am certainly keen for an R rating, as I think the Passage in particular should be a brutal fight, with plenty of blood.
Didn't see that Oz movie, but Snow White and the Huntsman was actually pretty good. If Red Rising is done in that style, I would be fine with it.And no way it will be rated R lol it's a YA book. It doesn't need to be either. Yes some of the scenes are violent, but nothing pivotal that couldn't just be toned down.
Technically it's an adult book, though it appeals to YA audiences. I think this is to broaden its appeal, as many adults wouldn't want to read a YA book, but many teens wouldn't have any problem with reading a book rated A.
I think the key to this being a good movie is going to rest solidly on who they get to play Darrow, Cassius, Roak, Adrius, Sevro and Virginia. Darrow has to be someone who can turn on the rage monster, someone who understand anger!
Tom wrote: "I'd prefer that they make his made up backstory in the book to be his real backstory in the movie. For some reason the starting premise always seemed a bit ridiculous to me."What? That's the entire premise of the book... That would totally defeat the purpose to make him a true gold.
Although I would like to see it, I think if they do turn this into a film that they will forgo painting everyone in body paint and show the changes between the colours in other ways such as size difference, technology used (Blues especially) and maybe just hair dye to distinguish the different colours.
I read the book and i have to say the whole time i read it I was thinking this has to go on the big screen. If it is done right this would be great!!!!!
Kristy Sartain- wrote: "They would have to age the characters to attract the adult audience they would garner with an R rating. They did the same for Ender's Game and the Giver and COUNTLESS other YA books turned into mov..."The fact that movies like Logan and Deadpool (both R rated) did well at the box office kinda gives me hope. Red Rising could totally do well as an R rated film because it would be true to the material that made the book great including the fact that the characters are so young in a harsh environment.
Please for the love of the Gods do not let them do what they did to Assassins Creed! If the movie is within 1,000 miles of Michael Bay be ware it will turn into Darrow transforming into a bloody autobot
There are a lot of optimistic people here, I admire you guys for how you can still believe it can be good. Seeing how hollywood butchers most good books I really am expecting nothing.
After seeing Ayesha in Guardians of the Galaxy, that's what I envision the Gold's to look like if they were to receive the typical Hollywood treatment. I think that it might be much better if it were done as animation or anime: Voltron, Final Fantasy and other recent animated shows movies show what might be possible.I do feel like a TV series similar to Voltron might do this justice because there is just so much depth to the story.
I'm worried Hollywood may not portray the novel as it should as well. maybe we could see a better outcome if HBO made the novel into a show. The story could be more developed over a season and HBO doesn't have much of a filter for adult content so there's a better potential for the novel to be portrayed correctly.
So - I've got news for ya'll. Pierce Brown spoke at Librarycon (virtual convention with Library Journal) just an hour ago. The movie rights have returned to him from Universal as they couldn't agree on how things would work, so the movie is now off the table.Pierce Brown is now looking at doing more of a long-form storytelling T.V. series, a la Game of Thrones. He didn't mention if he's looking at getting it on HBO or whatnot, but he did say he wanted to explore more of the world and be able to show more than you see in the books. No major character or plot point changes, per say, but wants to really delve further than a movie would allow.
OK, I actually regard that as good news. I personally am hoping for Netflix to pick it up. They've shown with the marvel shows that they're not afraid to get bloody and can do excellent fight choreography.Skilled fighters with super strength in low gravity? I want a blend of Daredevil and Luke Cage, and Netflix is the perfect organisation to do that while still telling a great story.
Yessss I am actually so pleased to hear he is considering doing a TV series instead of a film. I think a TV series could be amaazing and really do the books justice.
Dustan wrote: "So - I've got news for ya'll. Pierce Brown spoke at Librarycon (virtual convention with Library Journal) just an hour ago. The movie rights have returned to him from Universal as they couldn't agre..."This would be amazing. I agree with the others, I regard this a good news and think it would actually work better for this universe than a movie would.
This series needs to be a pay cable or Netflix series, a movie would be butchered IMO.
MegaSolipsist wrote: "OK, I actually regard that as good news. I personally am hoping for Netflix to pick it up. They've shown with the marvel shows that they're not afraid to get bloody and can do excellent fight chore..."I agree! This series needs to be on pay cable TV or Netflix. It could be the next game of thrones if they stay faithful to the books.
An anime series would be so niice for red rising !
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Anyway how do you think they will do Darrow's transformation? I think it will be like what they did for Captain America. Anyway I can't wait to see this movie.