2020 JLA vs JSA Discussion Thread

[Falynn - the TyGrammarSaurus Rex]

cool, thank you :)

(goes to look up character ages!)

[Melanie]

Does anyone have suggestion for this challenge:
My Villain Is More of A Hero Than I Am- read a book where a bad guy does something unexpectedly noble, where a bad guy shames a good guy into acting, or with a bad guy dying on the cover.

*it's not easy to google and get options

[Fannie]

Does Snape or Ebenezer Scrooge work?

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Fannie wrote: "Does Snape or Ebenezer Scrooge work?"

I'd say Snape certainly does. Scrooge... hm. Maybe?

[Shawnie]

After some looking around, here are some suggestions for kicking Sportsmaster's butt...
Last year for a cloning attribute, I read a dystopian, Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang, and really enjoyed it. There is a GR List called "Clones etc" that has interesting ideas. Brave New World was pretty good, imo. Never Let Me Go was good but too sad for me. For this round, I think I may try The Minority Report as I generally like PKD.

For the second one, Huntress, I found GR lists "Tiger Shifters in Romance" with a few books that look good. Any PNR or UF books with shifters in it will have characters with claws. I think I'll try Tiger's Curse since I already own it.

For the third one, I'm going with a Harry Potter book for now but will watch out to see what others go with. :)

[Tawallah]

For those looking with sci-fi with clones here is a website that gives a few options.
https://best-sci-fi-books.com/19-best...

For shifter with claws there is the Martha Wells series- The Raksura. I can vouch for The Cloud Roads.

[Fannie]

For clones I really recommend House of Suns if you like SF.

[Pamela]

For the second task, a book which has a character with claws will satisfy. Dragons have claws and there are several series with sentient dragons. Anne McCaffery, Naomi Novik, or Robin Hobb are examples of authors with such series.

[Pamela]

For the last task, I stumbled across a list on Goodreads titled "Rooting for the Bad Guy" and was able to find several that would probably fit.

[Shawnie]

Fannie wrote: "For clones I really recommend House of Suns if you like SF."

This looks really good.

[Shawnie]

Pamela wrote: "For the last task, I stumbled across a list on Goodreads titled "Rooting for the Bad Guy" and was able to find several that would probably fit."

Thanks, I'll take a look. :)

[Shawnie]

June wrote: "For those looking with sci-fi with clones here is a website that gives a few options.
https://best-sci-fi-books.com/19-best...

For shifter with claws there is the ..."
Thanks, June!

[Shawnie]

I'm thinking Sandman Slim will work as a bad guy gone good. I own it, so I'll start this June 1 and see if it works. :)

[Audrey, Queen of the Potato People]

For clones, there's also Firstborn; you'll have to check the length to make sure it's long enough. Locke Lamora would probably work for a villain doing something good.

Tiger's Curse is pretty decent; I was kind of bored by The Cloud Roads. I don't think it HAS to be a shifter, but that works for getting a clawed character. Maybe any book with a cat or dog?

[Audrey, Queen of the Potato People]

I also liked Six Wakes and Ghost Brigades, for clones.

[Nadja]

Hi Wayland

would this count as some kind of duplicate on the cover?

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Nadja wrote: "Hi Wayland

would this count as some kind of duplicate on the cover?

"

Sure, go for it.

[Hayley]

Just noticed the wording for Fire, Weird Resume, "read a story where a major character was a showgirl, or a spy". Does this mean the character has to have been a spy but isn't anymore or can we use a book where a character is still a spy?

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Hayley wrote: "Just noticed the wording for Fire, Weird Resume, "read a story where a major character was a showgirl, or a spy". Does this mean the character has to have been a spy but isn't anymore or can we use..."

Still a spy is fine. Sorry for the lack of clarity.

[Hayley]

Thanks, that makes it alot easier!

[Sandy]

Hey Wayland - are we still doing the extra five days for bom and villain because libraries still not back available?

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Sandy wrote: "Hey Wayland - are we still doing the extra five days for bom and villain because libraries still not back available?"

Yes the extra 5 days will continue for the foreseeable future. I'll do some kind of announcement if things ever get back to "normal" enough to make me think that's fair.

[Sandy]

Awesome - that will stop people like me "CRS - Can't Remember S***" from asking every month lol. Provided I remember you said this. OMG - I need to get out of the house!!!

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Sandy wrote: "Awesome - that will stop people like me "CRS - Can't Remember S***" from asking every month lol. Provided I remember you said this. OMG - I need to get out of the house!!!"

You know what they say, the memory is the second thing to go. ;)

[Sandy]

You are absolutely - it's been so long I don't even remember WHAT the first thing to go was :-)

[Vinca]

Can anyone help out with suggestions for the JSA 4th July bonus? I've got something for the second task (the reporter one) but am struggling with tasks 1 and 3:

1. Molecular Moxie- read a book with transmutation or alchemy in it, or with something being turned into something else on the cover.

3. Project M- read a book with a secret government project as part of the story or with a monster of some kind on the cover.

Any help greatly appreciated!

[Melanie]

Any werewolf story can count for #1.
I would recommend the Joe Ledger series for #3.

[Lel]

Wayland

For Sandman, Gas Gun. Can I get away with Peace Talks for a non lethal weapon on the cover. Dresden has a staff and that hasn't got anything sharp or pointy on it....... Pretty please.

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Lel wrote: "Wayland

For Sandman, Gas Gun. Can I get away with Peace Talks for a non lethal weapon on the cover. Dresden has a staff and that hasn't got anything sharp or pointy on it....... Pr..."

Lucky for you, I'm a Dresden/Butcher fan boy.

Approved.

[Lel]

Thank you, cannot wait to read it! Feels like it’s been so long coming.

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Lel wrote: "Thank you, cannot wait to read it! Feels like it’s been so long coming."

There are some jaw dropping moment. Next one is November. ;)

[Audrey, Queen of the Potato People]

Any suggestions for "pointless death" that isn't too long?

And for "cemetery on the cover," does it have to be a whole cemetery, or is a gravestone enough?

[Johanne]

The headquarter bonuses run through the year right? For some reason I had missed them in the updates.

[Vinca]

Johanne wrote: "The headquarter bonuses run through the year right? For some reason I had missed them in the updates."

Yep. You can't use a book you read before the bonus was announced but anything from that date until the end of the year is good.

[Johanne]

Thanks Vinca. I totally understand the not reading before announced, I was just unsure if it had an expiration date.

[Amy]

Hi Wayland, for Spectre/Holy Mission does Satan count as some kind of religious figure??? Thanks

[Wayland, Ernest Scribbler]

Amy wrote: "Hi Wayland, for Spectre/Holy Mission does Satan count as some kind of religious figure??? Thanks"

Sure. I don't see why not.

[Amy]

Great thanks. :)

[Johanne]

So, for "pointless death" an almost philosophical, existential question has arisen: Do we consider zombies dead? I'm reading a book in which zombies are making other people zombies in a pretty pointless fashion, so just wondering if I can use it there.

[Shawnie]

I would say use it. Death by zombie seems pretty pointless to me. :)

[Ophelia]

Justice League of America


Heroes Recruited - 0
Villains Defeated - 1
Portal Heroes - 0

Energy Cells - 1

==============

HEROES

Superman 1/3

[ ] 1. Rocketed to Earth From The Dying Planet Krypton…
[ ] 2. Who, Disguised as a Mild-Mannered Reporter
[X] 3. Able To Leap Tall Buildings… - Sinister Magic

Batman 1/3
??
[X] 1. …and Robin - Tangled Truths
[ ] 2. World’s Greatest Detective
[ ] 3. Gotham is mine

Wonder Woman 1/3
??
[X] 1. Not Actually American - Dating an Alien Pop Star
[ ] 2. Invisible Jet
[ ] 3. Magic Lasso

Aquaman 1/3

[X] 1. Neptune’s Trident - Battle Bond
[ ] 2. Mera
[ ] 3. King of the Seven Seas

Martian Manhunter 0/3
?? ??
[ ] 1. Too Powerful
[ ] 2. Mars Needs Chocos!
[ ] 3. Fire!

Green Arrow 0/3
?? ??
[ ] 1. Emerald Archer
[ ] 2. Voice of the People
[ ] 3. Chili

Elongated Man 0/3
?? ?? ??
[ ] 1. I Didn’t Know That
[ ] 2. Birthday Present
[ ] 3. True Love

Zatanna 0/3
?? ?? ??
[ ] 1. Uh Oh, It’s Magic!
[ ] 2. Mind Wipe
[ ] 3. Searching for Father

Firestorm 0/3
?? ?? ??
[ ] 1. It’s Gonna Blow!
[ ] 2. Transmutation
[ ] 3. Ronnie/Martin/Arkady/Jason

Vixen 0/3
?? ?? ??
[ ] 1. Pride of Zambesi
[ ] 2. Tantu Totem
[ ] 3. Mari McCabe

Fire 0/3
?? ??
[ ] 1. Weird Resume
[ ] 2. Green Flame/Green Fury/Fire
[ ] 3. De Brazil

Phantom Stranger 0/3
??
[ ] 1. Love the Hat
[ ] 2. The Great Unknown
[ ] 3. I Will Be Your Guide

===================

PORTAL HEROES

Iron Fist 0/3
?? ?? ??
[ ] 1. K’un-Lun
[ ] 2. Martial Arts Master
[ ] 3. Billionaire

Jessica Jones 0/3
?? ??
[ ] 1. Private Investigator
[ ] 2. Alcoholic
[ ] 3. Kilgrave

================

VILLAINS

September - SINESTRO 3/3 - DEFEATED

[X] 1. Ex-Cop - Itachi's Story: Midnight
[X] 2. Power Ring - Elven Doom
[X] 3. Yellow Lantern Corps - Konrad Curze: The Night Haunter

[Sandy]

Sandy's Second Tracking thread...


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Villains
Ultra-Humanite -- January Villain 3/3
1. Albino- a mostly white cover.Lock In CMP 1/5/20.
2. Brain Swap- Flowers for Algernon-CMP mine has a brain on it. -or with a brain on the cover
3. Dolores Winters-Hitting the Books - CMP-1/4/20 Robbie is actor -read a book where a character is a celebrity
WIZARD 3 of 3
1. Crime Boss- European Travel for the Monstrous Gentlewomanod-cmp-read a book with a major character who is a criminal figure
2. Master of Illusion- The Sinister Mystery of the Mesmerizing Girl-cmp-od-can create illusions
3. Wand of Glastonbury-The Librarians and the Mother Goose Chaseod-cmp-where someone uses a powerful magical artefact
VANDAL SAVAGE 3 of 3 March plus 5 days
1. Caveman-The Cave Girl-od-cmp-read a book with any kind of savage/barbarian/primitive character
2. Immortal- Fangs for the Memories-CMP OD-vampire-is far older than human.
3. Velocity 9- Risky Business-od-CMP-illegal drugs play a part in the story.
Per Dagaton - April Villain 3 of 3
1. Redhead- Cryptic Curses in WitchwoodOD-CMP-redheaded major character.
2. Time Travel-A Murder in Timecmp-od-time travel is part of the story.
3. Coward’s Way Out-The Silent CornerCMP
-od-commits suicide.
Icicle 3 of 3 - May Villain
1. Cold Gun- Death's Apprentice-cmp-od-any kind of special/unusual weapon.
2. Gotham Harbor- Cape Refugeod-CMP-a book set on a waterfront.
3. They Saw It-Addison Cooke and the Treasure of the IncasO-cmp-at least two kids on the cover.
SPORTSMASTER 3 of 3
1. Cloned by the Council- 501st-own-CMP clone as a character
2. Huntress- Throne of Jadeod-cmp-has claws.
3. My Villain Is More of A Hero Than I Am-Charmcaster CMP-OD-where a bad guy does something unexpectedly noble.
GORILLA GRODD 3 of 3
1. Killer Gorilla- The Murderer's Ape -od-cmp-read a book with an ape.
2. Mental Power- Viciousod-cmp-has mental control abilities.
3. Gorilla City- Soulbinderod-have-read a book with a hidden city
KANJAR RO 3 of 3
1. Dictator of Dhor- Tigana CMP- dictator as a major character.
2. Gamma Gong- Head OnCMP-paralyzed in some way
3. Starlag/Oan holding cells-The Sun Does Shine: How I Found Life and Freedom on Death Rowod-CMP in a prison (not a jail)
SINESTRO September 1-30 3 of 3
1. Ex-Cop-The Last Policemanod-CMP-a law enforcement officer of any kind goes bad.
2. Power Ring-Lucky Stiff- od-cmp-something bright yellow on the cover
3. Yellow Lantern Corps- Pop Goes the Weaselod-cmp-fear is important to the story, or with a mostly yellow cover
LEX LUTHOR Oct 1-Oct 31 3 of 3
1. Bald is Beautiful- The Last MileCMP-Mars is bald. od-read a story where a significant character is bald.
2. Power Armor- Silverthorncmp-someone wears specially powered armor.
3. Killer Businessman-Scarface and the Untouchable: Al Capone, Eliot Ness, and the Battle for ChicagoCMP -OD-read a book with a rich person who has someone killed
DR. DESTINY Nov 1-Nov 30th (plus 5) 3 of 3
1. Arkham Asylum- Asylum CMP-where at least one significant scene happens in an asylum.
2. Dream Slayer-To Sleep in a Sea of Stars od-CMP-someone suffers nightmares, “sleep” in the title
3. Morpheus-Waking Gods-have-CMP-god-like being is important to the story.
Prometheus 3 of 3
1. Gunned Down Before His Eyes- The Cruel PrinceCMP-someone sees a loved one killed right in front of them.
2. Ghost Zone-The OperatorCMP -any kind of Limbo is part of the story.
3. Stolen Skills- Hen of the BaskervillesCMP - someone steals something important to a hero.

[Sandy]

anyone have a cop gone bad book that isn't part of a series - or is number one of the series?

[Lel]

I’m reading The Given Day Sandy. Fingers crossed it fits

[Sandy]

Let me know when you finish Lel please and Thanks!

[Audrey, Queen of the Potato People]

What Immortal Hand might work, but I can't remember if it's a cop. He's an investigator of some kind.

Oh, he's an insurance claim investigator.

[Sandy]

is anyone having trouble with the search in the threads box on the D&J homepage - it used to give all the occurrences of say firestorm but now it only shows like 4. Is this happening to anyone else?

[Vinca]

Sandy, I just tried it and seem to have the same problem. About 8 hits for whatever I search for and it's definitely not picking up everything from the JLA Vs JSA discussion thread if I search for a hero name that I know has had multiple recruitments.

[Shawnie]

Sandy, The Last Policeman has cops who go bad and is book 1. It's an end of world is coming from an asteroid type dystopia. I liked it a lot and just started book 2.

[Sandy]

Ahh Thanks Shawnie - Vinca - I wonder if they changed something to only allow a certain amount of time for the search. This is a bummer. I depend on that to find the threads for the prior group reads.