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message 51: by Amy (new)

Amy (asawatzky) | 1743 comments Amanda wrote: "It's billed as a novel, but is really a collection of linked short stories just to name one example..."

oh that drives me crazy as well! it's partly why I never loved Goon Squad.


message 52: by Jason (new)

Jason Perdue | 688 comments Trust Exercise's NBA appears to have been enough to overcome losing in Camp ToB.


message 53: by Tim (new)

Tim | 515 comments I'd be happy to have A Girl Returned in the tournament, but am wary of trying to game the zombies. (Been burned before....)

I'm also disappointed that Ryan Chapman's Riots I Have Known didn't make the list. Oh well.

There are a couple of books I wish hadn't made the list, but I'll save that for March.


message 54: by Shari (new)

Shari Strong | 19 comments Amy wrote: "Bob wrote: "Should we all conspire and zombie A Girl Returned?"

can we write-in A Girl Returned?? I would totally be down for that!"


I don't think there's a way to write in A Girl Returned, is there? It looks like only the selected books are offered as options. But I'd sure be down for a write-in campaign!


message 55: by Amanda (new)

Amanda | 174 comments Jason wrote: "Trust Exercise's NBA appears to have been enough to overcome losing in Camp ToB."

Yeah, I believe Rosencrans and Andrew tweaked the rules of the summer tourney to make sure the major award winners were still eligible for the shortlist after last year. I figured it would make the shortlist after it won.


message 56: by Jan (last edited Dec 16, 2019 05:56PM) (new)

Jan (janrowell) | 1268 comments Nice list. I've read 10, own 4 that I'm excited to have a reason to bup up my TBR, and see 4 that are new to me or I'm on the fence about. And for the ones like A Girl Returned, I'm grateful to the ToB Overlords and all of you here for putting them on my Must. Read. Soon. list.

Also: really an interesting and impressive set of judges! This is gonna be fun!!!


message 57: by Janet (new)

Janet (justjanet) | 721 comments Is the reader judge “our” Heather?


message 58: by Shari (new)

Shari Strong | 19 comments For folks who are looking for good audiobook options, I'm really enjoying We Cast a Shadow on audio. I haven't finished it yet, but based on what I've heard so far I recommend it.


message 59: by Jessica (new)

Jessica (jessicaxmaria) | 48 comments Shari wrote: "For folks who are looking for good audiobook options, I'm really enjoying We Cast a Shadow on audio. I haven't finished it yet, but based on what I've heard so far I recommend it."

Just checked and its narrated by Dion Graham, who I listened to narrating Washington Black and Black Leopard, and loved (I think his narration improved my opinion of the books, tbh). Thanks for the tip, definitely going to listen to this one now!


message 60: by Ed (new)

Ed (edzafe) | 168 comments Heads-up - All This Could Be Yours is currently $2.99 on Kindle, listed as a “limited time deal”.


message 61: by Heather (new)

Heather (hlynhart) | 413 comments Janet wrote: "Is the reader judge “our” Heather?"

It is me, Janet. I'm so excited!


message 62: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurcoh) | 33 comments Heather wrote: "Janet wrote: "Is the reader judge “our” Heather?"

It is me, Janet. I'm so excited!"


Yay Heather!!


message 63: by Amy (new)

Amy (asawatzky) | 1743 comments Heather wrote: "Janet wrote: "Is the reader judge “our” Heather?"

It is me, Janet. I'm so excited!"


yay! now we get to stalk all your past reviews to guess at your tastes!


message 64: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 0 comments Heather wrote: "Janet wrote: "Is the reader judge “our” Heather?"

It is me, Janet. I'm so excited!"


Well done Heather!


message 65: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurcoh) | 33 comments Also, I’ve DNF’d all 4 of these that I’ve started...

All this Could be Yours
Trust Exercise
Fleishman is in Trouble
On Earth

Should I just see myself out?


message 66: by Mo (new)

Mo Pie (mopie) | 5 comments I've read about six of these but so happy to see Optic Nerve! It has my zombie vote for sure. Glad I don't have to feel more guilty about not managing to read the giant Marlon James one.

Lauren, for what it's worth both Trust Exercise and Fleishman get better and deeper as they go along.


message 67: by Janet (new)

Janet (justjanet) | 721 comments Heather wrote: "Janet wrote: "Is the reader judge “our” Heather?"

It is me, Janet. I'm so excited!"


That's wonderful! Congratulations! I look forward to reading your opinions.


message 68: by Ace (new)

Ace (aceonroam) | 0 comments Lauren wrote: "Also, I’ve DNF’d all 4 of these that I’ve started...

All this Could be Yours
Trust Exercise
Fleishman is in Trouble
On Earth

Should I just see myself out?"


Lol...


message 69: by Beverly (new)

Beverly | 300 comments Lauren wrote: "Also, I’ve DNF’d all 4 of these that I’ve started...

All this Could be Yours
Trust Exercise
Fleishman is in Trouble
On Earth

Should I just see myself out?"


No

I also did not finish:
Fleishman is in Trouble
Trust Exercise

And I am not interested in reading:
The Testaments


message 70: by Alison (new)

Alison Hardtmann (ridgewaygirl) | 764 comments It's interesting that while there were seven (or eight, depending) short story collections on the long list, NONE of them made it into tournament play.


message 71: by Janet (new)

Janet (justjanet) | 721 comments Alison wrote: "It's interesting that while there were seven (or eight, depending) short story collections on the long list, NONE of them made it into tournament play."

That is very interesting.


message 72: by Jason (new)

Jason Perdue | 688 comments They haven't included a story collection in years. Goon Squad may be the last one.


message 73: by Ellen (new)

Ellen H | 987 comments I'm happy with this list -- it seems a little more potentially accessible than some years (*cough*Ban en Banlieue*cough*). My big disappointment is the absence of Disappearing Earth, which was hands down my favorite read of the past year. And being almost finished with The Dutch House, I'm sorry it didn't even make the longlist; I am often ambivalent about Patchett, but I really liked it...

Anyway, I've read 4 and 7 were already on my list, two of which I already have at home -- The Water Dancer and, thanks to the daily Kindle deals, the Jami Attenburg. And I'm secretly glad that Ducks, Newburyport didn't make the list, because although I feel I SHOULD read it, I didn't want to get bogged down in a 1000-pp book during ToB season.

And, HEATHER! OUR Heather! Mazel tov! Ooh, I can't wait to read your judgment!!!!


message 74: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth Arnold | 1314 comments Heather wrote: "Janet wrote: "Is the reader judge “our” Heather?"

It is me, Janet. I'm so excited!"


Yay! Congratulations, Heather, tell us what you're judging. (kidding.) I can't wait to read what you think!


message 75: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth Arnold | 1314 comments Anyone want to call out their zombie pick? At this point I think I'll choose Lost Children Archive, as many of you know when I was judging this summer I adored that book, but I've only read half of them.


message 76: by Carmel (new)

Carmel Hanes | 171 comments I was surprised to see I had read four of these, and have several others on my list or radar. Those that I've read were ones I really enjoyed--Water Dancer, Nothing to See Here, On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous and We Cast a Shadow. All diverse and interesting books. It will be fun to watch how this year plays out. And...I've got some more reading to do!


message 77: by Sherri (new)

Sherri (sherribark) | 361 comments Elizabeth wrote: "Anyone want to call out their zombie pick? At this point I think I'll choose Lost Children Archive, as many of you know when I was judging this summer I adored that book, but I've only read half of..."

I would love to see LCA do well, but I put Nothing to See Here for the zombie.


message 78: by Janet (new)

Janet (justjanet) | 721 comments I chose Mary Toft for my zombie...loved it.


message 79: by Melanie (new)

Melanie Greene (dakimel) | 241 comments Way to go, Heather!! Can't wait to read your judgment!


message 80: by Risa (new)

Risa (risa116) | 625 comments Amy wrote: "Posted by the tourney gods ~11am PST 12/16
All This Could Be Yours by Jami Attenberg
Fleishman is in Trouble by Taffi Akner
[book:Girl, Woma..."


So ... who won the Predictions Office Pool?


message 81: by Jason (new)

Jason Perdue | 688 comments Risa wrote: "So ... who won the Predictions Office Pool?"

Bob


message 82: by Risa (new)

Risa (risa116) | 625 comments What a fitting reward for Bob's many years of toil in putting together the spreadsheets for the rest of us! Congratulations, Bob!


message 83: by Amy (new)

Amy (asawatzky) | 1743 comments Voted for Mary Toft because though it hasn’t come up in my library holds yet, I’m prepared to very much enjoy it, and I was sad to see Version Control bow out a few years ago. (I still think on many of the near-future concepts and social commentary with some frequency).


message 84: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth Arnold | 1314 comments Risa wrote: "What a fitting reward for Bob's many years of toil in putting together the spreadsheets for the rest of us! Congratulations, Bob!"

Oh, so true! Congratulations, Bob!! I'd love to hear what you get!


message 85: by Jan (new)

Jan (janrowell) | 1268 comments Heather wrote: "Janet wrote: "Is the reader judge “our” Heather?"

It is me, Janet. I'm so excited!"


Heather!!! This is awesome!!


message 86: by Jan (new)

Jan (janrowell) | 1268 comments Jason wrote: "Risa wrote: "So ... who won the Predictions Office Pool?"

Bob"


Bob, congratulations!! Speech, speech!!


message 87: by Jan (new)

Jan (janrowell) | 1268 comments Elizabeth wrote: "Anyone want to call out their zombie pick? At this point I think I'll choose Lost Children Archive, as many of you know when I was judging this summer I adored that book, but I've only read half of..."

I'm going to take advantage of the EOM deadline to let this marinate a bit. I don't have a strong favorite yet.


message 88: by Peggy (new)

Peggy | 256 comments ohhhh dear. The shortlist just totally demolished my TBR stack (I am clearly a bad guesser) and I am now currently rebuilding it. I think Lost Children Archive is next. This already feels insurmountable, though.

Add me to the list of disappointed at Disappearing Earth's absence. Loved that book and thought it was a sure thing. Nickel Boys, too. Big sigh.

I'll get We Cast a Shadow on audio thanks to the recs here...any other shortlisted books that are good on audio?


message 89: by C (last edited Dec 16, 2019 06:23PM) (new)

C | 799 comments I guessed 12/18 books! I'm very proud of myself. haha. Was anyone else this close, other than Bob? I'm guessing Bob won because he guessed a couple long shots?

Nevermind - I'm posting about this in the wrong topic! Sorry.


message 90: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth Arnold | 1314 comments Peggy wrote: "ohhhh dear. The shortlist just totally demolished my TBR stack (I am clearly a bad guesser) and I am now currently rebuilding it. I think Lost Children Archive is next. This already feels insurmoun..."

I’d recommend The Water Dancer, which I loved. The narrator was amazing, a beautifully sonorous voice, and he can really sing!


message 91: by Jan (new)

Jan (janrowell) | 1268 comments On Earth is beautifully read by the author.


message 92: by Beth (new)

Beth | 204 comments Feeling extra lucky as I was 50 pages from finishing All This Could Be Yours when the shortlist announcement came and a friend loaned her copy of Nothing to See Here to me last week. Five down, not sure who might be my Zombie but I’m especially happy to see Ben Winters make the play in with Golden State.


message 93: by Michelle (new)

Michelle | 155 comments Peggy I started listening to Steph Cha's Your House Will Pay on audio today. Definitely a good one to listen to.


Nadine in California (nadinekc) | 763 comments I've read six already, and have 2 sitting on my shelf waiting. That's a ToB record for me. I have no idea about a zombie pick yet - maybe Testaments (just kidding!!)


message 95: by Maggie (new)

Maggie (magwi) | 284 comments I’m loving this list. Can’t wait to talk about it with all of you. I’ll admit that I am most excited to see that Golden State made the play in, because I read Golden State *last year* in place of The Golden State, and I have been longing to discuss it with the commentariat since the moment I read it.


message 96: by jo (new)

jo | 429 comments for those who DNF’d Trust Exercise, getting to the second part is kinda essential. The first part was utterly confusing to me. I love Susan Choi for her rigor as a writer and i was all like, what is this? Persevere, people, persevere.

Love the audiobook of We Cast a Shadow!


message 97: by Carmel (new)

Carmel Hanes | 171 comments Elizabeth wrote: "Peggy wrote: "ohhhh dear. The shortlist just totally demolished my TBR stack (I am clearly a bad guesser) and I am now currently rebuilding it. I think Lost Children Archive is next. This already f..."

I totally agree with you, Elizabeth! I loved the audio on this book. And the singing!


message 98: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Sevitt | 100 comments There's a couple of genuinely bad books on that shortlist out of the 7 I have read or am planning to. Further to those I can't see myself reading Attenberg again as I really disliked The Middlesteins and I have no real appetite for the Coates novel despite being blown away by his non-fiction.

I didn't hate The Testaments at all, but I'm not looking forward to having to break it down and explain to others why it's a page-turning YA throwaway.

I haven't read Steph Cha and I won't buy this book unless I can get it for less than full retail, but I already like the look of her back catalogue and I may try to pick up her earlier books on the cheap.


message 99: by Irene (new)

Irene | 44 comments Elizabeth wrote: "Anyone want to call out their zombie pick? At this point I think I'll choose Lost Children Archive, as many of you know when I was judging this summer I adored that book, but I've only read half of..."
so far this is also my zombie pick but i only read 4 so i didn't vote yet


message 100: by Cat (new)

Cat | 56 comments I just went through the shortlist and the list of winners and looked up page counts and then calculated that if I'm going to read all of the ones i haven't read yet, I need to read 112 pages per day between now and March! I got this! I probably could have spent this time reading instead of making spreadsheets. :) Mary Toft looks really interesting. I just finished On Earth We're Briefly Gorgeous and I also really enjoyed The Testaments. Is anyone else surprised that The Testaments is getting as much literary attention as it is? It felt more mainstream, more like a thriller and it didn't really do that much interesting in the way of "literary" stuff for me. But I still really enjoyed it and read it in just a few days. I couldn't put it down! But I feel like it's resting on its laurels a little bit. OK I need to go put in some library holds! :) Happy reading everyone.


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