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message 1551: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments Gothcupcake not long not long at all. Till we get Burned!!


message 1552: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Winnie...that is a good idea. Oh I would want that!!!!!!!
Chain that bad boy up and make him suffer a bit. I think he was talking to Observer though when he says kill or kiss. Just my thought :)

I think she has hunter powers but I don't think a kiss would kill him. She doesn't know that they hunters kill them. Remember she wasn't there when Baby Barrons was killed.


message 1553: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments Yes I don't remember that she knows about the hunters killing Baby Barron's. Oh our baby is all grown up. Remember it sounded like the hunters suck the life out of there victims?? If she kisses him?


message 1554: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Nope! You got to remember she is going to be sucking face soon now that she is grown up. She can't kill all of them men.


message 1555: by Kristen (new)

Kristen | 486 comments Another reason it seems like KMM is following a similar storyline like Macs. If Dani becomes super super powerful nearly unstoppable, that's kind of like Mac being so super powerful because of the book. Ryodan and Barrons mentioned Dani being a wild card, and Mac being a wild care in previous books. Guess we'd only need to pay attention to Mac and how she gets through certain issues to know what's going to happen to Dani.


message 1556: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments KMM said Mac was a wild card but Dani was a wild card on steroids. So we already know Dani will be unpredictable. We know she has this potential and she is going to do something awesome. I didn't know that for Mac. In fact, I was so busy trying to figure out who killed Alina to worry about her evolving into a "superhero" as my girl Dani would say.

KMM might have some similarities in their stories but I think she is going to switch up a lot of stuff for Dani.


message 1557: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments I always thought of Dani and Mac as the 2 talked about in the prophecies by the washer woman? So I though they both will have similar paths but different personalities.


message 1558: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Inanda wrote: "I always thought of Dani and Mac as the 2 talked about in the prophecies by the washer woman? So I though they both will have similar paths but different personalities."

What was the prophecy again?


message 1559: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments But I also think that Dani is light and Mac is dark!! Remember I said earlier on this post that I believe the seelie Queen had something to do with Dani!


message 1560: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Yes I agree, Inanda.


message 1561: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments There was also a lot of speculation on Dageus being Dani father because he slept with a O'Malley woman in his Book? I see that Drustan is mentioned in one of the teasers hugely they r together! Dageus and Drustan


message 1562: by Kristen (last edited Jan 18, 2015 12:21PM) (new)

Kristen | 486 comments I saw Mac doing the superhero saving of the world thing early on. Yes she originally went to Dublin to find her sisters killer (back when she didn't know everything else that was going on), through the book she was still interested in that, but when she found out about the evil book, the evil it was causing and that it could potentially bring the walls back up and fix the world, that became a top priority. And look she saw through it's glamour trick killed the evil Rowena and stopped the book. If only briefly.

Mac was pretty darn light and innocent before she had to be corrupted enough to get close to the book. And then she only seems to be doing bad things when the book takes her over and she blacks out. I think Mac has a fight ahead of her but she still knows right from wrong and she is still fighting, she still feels guilt and has a consciousness. I think Dani has had just a hard past and childhood I think finding Mac and being friends with her helped put Dani on the right track, the situation she was in she could of gone either way with enough time. I think Dani is good and so badly wants to be even better, she's definitely loyal to her friends and wants to protect those weaker than her.

I thought all the highlanders were married? But it seems Dani's mom has slept around a lot.


message 1563: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments There are 2 prophecies of too that will come from the ancient bloodlines. Mac and Barrons thought it's about Mac and Alina but I think it's about Dani and Mac


message 1564: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Inanda wrote: "There was also a lot of speculation on Dageus being Dani father because he slept with a O'Malley woman in his Book? I see that Drustan is mentioned in one of the teasers hugely they r together! Dag..."

See I didn't read those books. I have to go through all of them before Feverborn. LOL.

I wasn't concern about Mac being a superhero. I was concern with who killed her sister. What was up with V'lane. What the hell was Barrons? I became obsessed with those theories. Can you imagine my surprised at the end! LOL.


message 1565: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Inanda wrote: "There was also a lot of speculation on Dageus being Dani father because he slept with a O'Malley woman in his Book? I see that Drustan is mentioned in one of the teasers hugely they r together! Dag..."

But I thought KMM said that Dani's father was not important.


message 1566: by SHOOKITHA TEA (new)

SHOOKITHA TEA (shookithatea) | 992 comments Yeah, no one ever expected Mac to be powerful. Dani was already powerful, almost unstoppable as just a child. As a full grown adult she'll probably be even faster, smarter and stronger. Dani's definitely destined for something epic, Karen even told me as much in a comment of her facebook LOL (I was whining about the pov change, oops)

Idk, the prophecy was so obscure and Mac had so many postulations about it that I really didn't even pay much attention to it.

I think the "light" around Dani is more than just her personality or whatever. Pretty much every time Dani appears in the fever series there's light framing her. And Dublin is rainy as hell! LOL so I'm thinking there's more to that. Funny cause shadows always frame Ryodan


message 1567: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments I know but KMM follows her muse!! Sometimes the muse is her fans with awesome ideas!! LMAO


message 1568: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments The Fae don't have souls!! In Adam bl


message 1569: by SHOOKITHA TEA (new)

SHOOKITHA TEA (shookithatea) | 992 comments This is what K Mo has said
Mac had all the love in the world but had no spine. Her story was about finding strength. Dani has all the strength in the world but has never known love. Her story is about discovering it.
she said a lot of interesting stuff in that old q&a here's a link if you guys are interested
http://www.moningmaniacs.com/?p=648#m...


message 1570: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments In Adam Blacks book you read that the Fae Don't have souls! But they can see the souls of humans. They say it's a pure light that shines out of the person? You also read that if you drink the elixir of the Fae your light goes out!


message 1571: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments Yes nice Melissa that will help!!


message 1572: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments Yes and if Dageus is her father she will never never be alone again.


message 1573: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments She will never be alone again due to Ryodan regardless.


message 1574: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Gothcupcake wrote: "Samantha wrote: "But I thought KMM said that Dani's father was not important. "

She did at a point, but wouldn't it be fascinating to know nonetheless? I sure wanna know."


I don't know if I care about the father.


message 1575: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments And Ryodan will be in such a huge pile off shit because the highlander men will lay claim to Dani!!! LMAO now that will be awesome and they are impressive those highlanders.I won't mess with them immortal or not.


message 1576: by June (new)

June | 590 comments k MO has had a lot of Q and As, I think she tries to answer questions. But I also think she gets real shady in the them too. LOL remembering when she said something like Ryodan will blow Barrons right out of the water, eclipse. after the whole book direction changes were made some fan asked what about ryodan blowing barrons out of the water and K Mo said, something like its fans interpretations...meaning i think she was slowing going back on barrons getting blown out of the water, its hard to eclipse someone when you do not even get your own series. LOL


message 1577: by Inanda (new)

Inanda | 586 comments Ryodan already eclipse Barron's it depends on who you like!! I like Ryodan so he eclipse Barron's for me!


message 1578: by Sbcurious (new)

Sbcurious | 197 comments She may have been trying not to make the Barrons fans mad when she said that too.


message 1579: by Kristen (last edited Jan 18, 2015 02:02PM) (new)

Kristen | 486 comments I don't mind if she's trying to please me, but so far with what I've heard and haven't heard about Burned and Mac and Barrons interactions, the seemingly stale relationship that doesn't seem to be progressing she has her work cut out for her. Unless this is a direction she wants to go toward setting the scene for the next book.

Of course KMM does seem to be changing things up, even slightly in certain aspects of the characters and their overall story.


message 1580: by Fresiako (new)

Fresiako | 1149 comments Inanda wrote: "And Ryodan will be in such a huge pile off shit because the highlander men will lay claim to Dani!!! LMAO now that will be awesome and they are impressive those highlanders.I won't mess with them i..."

It's possible, I mean Dani's mum did seem pretty promiscuous. It'd be so nice if Dani could get some overprotective family members. x)


message 1581: by SHOOKITHA TEA (new)

SHOOKITHA TEA (shookithatea) | 992 comments I still think Dani's place is with the nine, though how this works out I dunno!
Oh yeah KMM definitely kinda took that back a little when she was like "it's up for fans to decide" lol I can't see her not fully fleshing out Dani/Ryodan's relationship though so I'll give her that much


message 1582: by June (new)

June | 590 comments Gothcupcake wrote: "Inanda wrote: "And Ryodan will be in such a huge pile off shit because the highlander men will lay claim to Dani!!! "

Yeah, really! They'd get real protective, real fast I would think. And Gwen, a..."


I think she probably does feel overwhelmed, she created these character, they are her babies! She wants them all to be loved. Its the fans that are making everything difficult! LOL

@Kristen- I think you are right, she has changed up things story wise already. I would love to have seen everything she originally planned years ago if she had a long term layout.

And YES RYODAN did eclipse Barrons for me in the First Fever 5. He was mysterious and seemed not very impressed with Mac. That in itself made me like him. There were so many characters bending over backwards to sleep with Mac. From Barrons, to Vlane, Christian. Everyone wanted Mac but you had Ryodan who seemed like he could care less and kept telling her to stop being so stupid essentially. Pick a side and stick to it, I loved that about him.


message 1583: by Kristen (new)

Kristen | 486 comments Actually June you bring up a very good point with the Ryodan and Mac thing. Any conversation he had with her was longer then anyone we've seem her completely have with Barrons. I mean he was pretty direct and reveled quite a few things to her and about her. Helped her find some logic and think some things through to the same conclusion he had come to. And he didn't rise to the bait when she attempted to rile him with her snark like Barrons does.


message 1584: by June (new)

June | 590 comments Kristen wrote: "Actually June you bring up a very good point with the Ryodan and Mac thing. Any conversation he had with her was longer then anyone we've seem her completely have with Barrons. I mean he was pretty..."

yeah! AT times I thought she might end up with ryodan, i know crazy. they had better chemistry at times because they had more of an intellectual dialogue. that is why i like dani and ry better, more talking and openness. It feels more realistic to me, i can't give heated looks for eternity. lol


message 1585: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments June, I'm confused. Who did you think would get with Ryodan?

Please don't say Mac? I need some wine!!! LOL. I didn't even see him as a contender. Only Barrons.


message 1586: by Kristen (new)

Kristen | 486 comments I hope Dani doesn't have any relative relation to the nine though I'm probably in the minority. I kind of like the idea of a misfit family thing going on, about different people/species finding each other and completing something in one another they lacked and didn't know it, didn't know it was something they desperately wanted or needed and yet they are so different from one another they still stick it out in the name of loyalty, love, and friendship. Sacrificing certain for someone else they never thought they would, giving something up without worrying about what they'd be getting in return. That part of your soul thing Ryodan was talking about, it could be for more then one person and for more then having a sexual relationship with someone. Mac, Barrons, Dani, Ryodan and the rest of those who don't quite belong. Even the UK.

KMM also said we'd come to LOVE Christian sOoo since I liked him (before the transformation, but not so much since) I wonder how she'll go about that.


message 1587: by Kristen (last edited Jan 18, 2015 02:24PM) (new)

Kristen | 486 comments Oh sure, Dani can use her crush on Barrons to make Ryodan jealous, and Mac can use Ryodan (just because he's so awesome) to make Barrons jealous, and get him back for being such a butt.

The girls can get together and plan it all out, it'll be spicy.


message 1588: by June (new)

June | 590 comments More i think on this mac and barrons thing i am really interested to see how things progress. say ryodan and dani do get together, mac is going to see how another one of the 9 is with a 'girlfriend' (i use the term lightly) what if ry and dani are more open? i woul assume she might like that too, i could see mac pressing barrons to be more open as well.

Also shannon said this a MAc book, not a Mac and BArrons book. How are the fans going to react? Do people really want to read the same Mac or do they really BArrons? KMM is going to really have to grow MAc's character if she is going to be the sole voice. Fans have matured, grown, they are going to want their heroine too. jmo


message 1589: by June (new)

June | 590 comments Samantha wrote: "June, I'm confused. Who did you think would get with Ryodan?

Please don't say Mac? I need some wine!!! LOL. I didn't even see him as a contender. Only Barrons."


In the original fever series, when very dude wanted Mac in Dublin, and you were not sure where she would end up, at times I thought she might end up with Ryodan since it seemed liek he was the only one that did not take her pink fluffy act to heart. They had better banter too, at times more chemistry.


message 1590: by Kristen (new)

Kristen | 486 comments Barrons lol I want to see Barrons, Barrons with Mac is better, but just Barrons is good too. I didn't react so well when I found out, I'll probably react worse when I read the book.


message 1591: by Kristen (new)

Kristen | 486 comments You're right KMM did do the "who will Mac end up with all these potential powerful guys thing" oh look she's doing it again with Dani.


message 1592: by June (new)

June | 590 comments When talking about Christian, i hated him in the original first 5 books. But I loved him in Iced, he became such a better and more dynamic character the darker he got. I hope he does not lose his Unseelie side, and karen makes his character boring again.


message 1593: by SHOOKITHA TEA (new)

SHOOKITHA TEA (shookithatea) | 992 comments I loved Ryodan in the fever series too, he was not having any of Mac's shit LOL but he still tried to help her anyway. You're right, everyone else was practically falling at Mac's feet and he was like "lol ur not that great"

I can never see Dani/Ryo being all googoo gaga. Remember he tells Kat something like couples who are foolish enough to show how happy they are, are doomed. (really paraphrasing there) Plus I doubt Dani would even want that, it would also be her weakness as well.


message 1594: by June (new)

June | 590 comments Melissa Tea wrote: "I loved Ryodan in the fever series too, he was not having any of Mac's shit LOL but he still tried to help her anyway. You're right, everyone else was practically falling at Mac's feet and he was l..."

i agree, no gooeyness, dani would hate it. But my feeling, he will tell her everything she wants to know regarding the 9. Thats what i mean by openness. He is a talker, barrons is a doer.


message 1595: by SHOOKITHA TEA (new)

SHOOKITHA TEA (shookithatea) | 992 comments True, he might tell her a lot more. He seemed open to giving Dani immortal, by making her a beast?? who knows but that's what it sounded like. I dunno if he'll tell her everything though, they have that rule in place for a reason.
Can never see Ryodan treating Dani like Barrons treats Mac with all the secrecy. He'd never win her that way


message 1596: by Kristen (new)

Kristen | 486 comments There's an idea. If the nine can give people "beasts" and immortality, maybe Kasteo tried to do that with his woman? But the others stopped him before he could do it, or maybe he succeeded and chained her up somewhere he either can't get to, or will never find.


message 1597: by Fresiako (new)

Fresiako | 1149 comments Melissa Tea wrote: "I loved Ryodan in the fever series too, he was not having any of Mac's shit LOL but he still tried to help her anyway. You're right, everyone else was practically falling at Mac's feet and he was l..."

HAHA. He became my favorite character of the first 5 books simply because he wasn't hailing Mac as the next messiah.
I think towards each other in private Ryo might be pretty mushy, but I also don't think they'll be outwardly googoo gaga. I think Dani would cringe and break up with him if he tried to. LOL.


message 1598: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1254 comments Kristen wrote: "There's an idea. If the nine can give people "beasts" and immortality, maybe Kasteo tried to do that with his woman? But the others stopped him before he could do it, or maybe he succeeded and chai..."

LOL. Do you really think if his woman was chained up somewhere he would be chilling in Chesters? That dude would be looking for her. Nope. She is dead...obviously for a reason.


message 1599: by SHOOKITHA TEA (last edited Jan 18, 2015 02:59PM) (new)

SHOOKITHA TEA (shookithatea) | 992 comments ooo nice idea Kristen. Remember when Mac was dying and Barrons said something weird about not being a nice guy or something like he was about to save her from dying? maybe he was going to change her. LOL can you imagine MAC as a beast? (but yeah that chick is long dead)

Yeah in private Ryodan's GOT to show her he loves her with more than just actions. Tell her she's his national anthem and shit, that's what I personally want ahahahah
But there will never be any fecking campfire and cuddles with them that's for sure! lmfao


message 1600: by Fresiako (last edited Jan 18, 2015 03:07PM) (new)

Fresiako | 1149 comments Melissa Tea wrote: "ooo nice idea Kristen. Remember when Mac was dying and Barrons said something weird about not being a nice guy or something like he was about to save her from dying? maybe he was going to change he..."

I mean considering the fact that Dani was deprived of love, Ryodan can't be emotionally constipated with displaying his. LOL. It just wouldn't work. Dani doesn't think she's entitled to love, so he needs to show her, he's in it to win it. I also like the idea of the two being really happy in private, it makes their love sweeter. Like it's a little secret shared by the two. xD

At least with Mac and Barrons, Mac has been brought up naturally assuming everyone loves her. So even if Barrons is cold, she still thinks he's in love with her.


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