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I think it's just because Ryodan and Barrons are very different characters. Lol, seems like Barrons is emotionally constipated and seems to have loved in his past and been burned. Barrons doesn't seem to enjoy the whole immortality/ being alive thing, as his main mission for a long time was to kill his son. (as his son was all forever fucked up)
I don't think he's led a particularly happy life because of it. Whereas Ryodan has no such emotional baggage and instead seems to truly cherish being alive (just like Dani) and he enjoys immortality. I think he's just been bored for a very long time, and Dani is the first thing that's fascinated him in ages. Ryodan, also seems more open to new experiences like the whole love thing. So that'd explain his affection to women lol.

The teaser that Shannon put out here made me believe again that Barrons is the leader of the 9 (10). Iced had me confused and I thought that the whole "boss" thing Lor was calling Ryodan kind of gave the idea that it was Ryodan that was the real leader.

I think that the Dani /Ryodan relationship will be a love/hate relationship until the end. Funny that it's a bit turn-on. Hahah.. I'm so shameful.
Wouldn't it be great that the tension between Dani and Ryodan got so heavy that Ryodan just gave up to it and talked about the elephant in the room: either kiss me or kill me. Decide what you want, and if you can't I will make the decision for you.

I think that Barrons is stronger than them all. So he's sort of the Alpha. But he acts more like an Omega. In that he's got his own thing going on, and he doesn't seem as tightly involved in the other 8's (nines?) lives.
Whereas I think of Ryodan as the acting Alpha, in that he's sort of more the nine's leader and they are more loyal to him. Hence why they call him the boss. xD

Yay :) Thank you, Shannon. Does it get even better?

Cookie: I hope they don't kiss in Burned. I really hope that Ryodan doesn't win this argument. I want him on his knees for her until the next book :)

Yay :) Thank you, Shannon. Does it get even better?"
Yeah are there any more Dani/Ryo steamy moments to look forward to? xD

Cookie: I hope they don't kiss in Burned. I really hop..."
Yeah, I want their tension to keep building until it reaches boiling point lol. And then watch him as he goes apeshit over Dani. :)

If they are the HEA- I want Ryodan and Dani having an equal partnership. I don't think Barrons and Mac really do- that's my biggest gripe with them. Barrons and his boundaries? Take me or leave it Ms. Lane. The reality is BArrons did not want Mac the way she was, he molded her into something he thought he could be happy, something more like him. Yet, Mac cannot even ask the dude about anything without getting the dismissal "Head nod" for any pertinent info. Guess what Barrons? Women get to ask questions and they get answered once in awhile, oh and we got the right to vote a few years back, yeah?? really? deal with it.

If they are the HEA- I want Ryodan and Dani having an equal partnership. I don't think Barron..."
Yeah I think that Dani and Ryo will have a much more equal relationship. (Which is one of my favourite things about them.)
Even in Iced, With Dani only being 14. I feel Dani could go toe to toe with Ryo in ways that Mac and Barrons never really did. I like that it seems that Dani has enough respect for herself that she'd never enter into a relationship with someone who doesn't give their 100%. She'd never stand for any of this "boundaries" bullshit. Lol, if they're are any boundaries in the Ryo/Dani relationship. I think that Dani will be the one putting them there. And Ryo will be the one getting her to be more open. xD

If they are the HEA- I want Ryodan and Dani having an equal partnership. I don't..."
Oh, Fresiako, I love that. I also think that Ryodan will be a tad softer than Barrons. I really like Barrons, so no hate there.
Some of you mentioned grinding (cough- looking at you Melissa T) between Ryodan and Dani, and that made me think of Mac and Barrons "first" kiss.

If they are the HEA- I want Ryodan and Dani having an equal partnership. I don't..."
You are so right! dani will be the Barrons of that relationship.

If they are the HEA- I want Ryodan and Dani having an equal par..."
Yeah, exactly. Haha, I think in many ways Dani is similar to Barrons. I mean she's the one with all the emotional baggage. And they're both larger than life type characters.
I mean there's a reason Ryodan said she'd have to fight Barrons for the title of Alpha and Omega. LOL. xD

Or maybe if a fae was as old as they are, they would know about exactly what the nine are and about the curse. They'd know they have to ..."
I think that is the main reason they don't want anyone to know what they are. Look what happened to Barrons' son, they can't handle the possibility of something like that happening to one of them. Eternal torture that can never be escaped because they can never die!

If they are the HEA- I want Ryodan and Dani having..."
We assume she will have to fight Barrons for the title. He never said it directly.

If they are the HEA- I want Ryoda..."
But we all know that's who he was thinking... ;)

I think Dancer's family is in Australia or something. He was supposedly in Dublin looking at going to Trinity College for his graduate degree. Who knows if that is true or not because who really knows for sure if Dancer is really human.

Yeah he is from Aussie land, which sometimes makes it hard for me since Karen never writes him with an Aussie accent.

I totally agree about Dani being a lot like Barrons, like even the things she says/thinks sound like him. "you are what you are, deal with it or change"
All I'm saying is Mac might wanna keep a tight leash on him once Dani breaks out of faery ;) LOL
And June those are my feelings exactly about Mac/Barrons, I couldn't have said it better myself! Ryodan treats 14 year old Dani more equally than Barrons ever seemed to treat Mac.
Like when he asks for her version of what happened the first time they saw the HFK after hearing Lor's. I loved that

I totally agree about Dani being a lot like Barrons, like even the things..."
Haha. I loved how Ryodan always wants to hear Dani's opinion about everything.
Like he trusts and respects her insight more than that of anyone else. xD



Exactly! Its not always a great trait but I love her honesty, its refreshing but also very 14 like.

"'Do you think things will ever get back to normal?'
Barrons gives me a look. 'They were normal? Did I miss that century?'
Ryodan says, 'Fuck normal. Give me a good war any day.'
Drustan snorts, 'you're daft, the lot of you. I'd give my left nut for a century of peace.'"




Is it war with the Unseelie or Seelie? Or both. What's left of the world to fight over anyway.




I just assumed it was Mac speaking. I think this conversation is taking place at the big meeting that was being discussed in the long teaser KMM released last week.

I just assumed it was Mac speaking. I think this conversation is taking place at the big meeting that was being discussed in..."
That who I thought was speaking as well.



Its only a few days from release but i want some ridiculous tasty spoilers...like the Lor and his new girl one. LOL
This teaser is so tame in comparison!

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I think that was more embellishment of wording. I wouldn't take it that seriously lol. She can't force people to stop loving Barrons.