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message 1: by E. (new)

E. (ecatherinetobler) | 8 comments This book:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

Does not belong to that series; author has stated as much (https://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/4...), and keeps asking to have it removed, but it keeps being added. Can we remove this once and for all?


message 2: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments Author writes:
'Pat Merton and Fenella Carruth first appeared in my book Think of England and I have wanted to write their origin story ever since. Here it is.

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

If it shares characters it is considered a series as per Goodreads policy.


message 3: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9557 comments Text inside the book indicates that it is related to Think of England.


message 4: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments Also, please post your requests only once in this Group.


message 5: by E. (new)

E. (ecatherinetobler) | 8 comments The author has stated it is not part of the series. https://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/4...


message 6: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9557 comments If there is a connection to another book, then it is part of the series.


message 7: by Sandra (new)

Sandra | 31536 comments Rivka has already said its part of the series on the other thread.


message 8: by E. (new)

E. (ecatherinetobler) | 8 comments The author has stated this is a standalone book. "It takes place two years before the events of Think of England (so, obviously, it's a standalone)"

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 9: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Olivia wrote: "If it shares characters it is considered a series as per Goodreads policy."

Agreed.


message 10: by Scott (last edited Sep 25, 2019 08:22AM) (new)

Scott | 9557 comments E. wrote: "The author has stated this is a standalone book. "It takes place two years before the events of Think of England (so, obviously, it's a standalone)"

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show......"


That literally connects it to the other book.

Books can be standalone reads but still be part of a series.


message 11: by E. (new)

E. (ecatherinetobler) | 8 comments The author has literally said it is a standalone. We're not taking the author's word for what they wrote?


message 12: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9557 comments Apparently the author's word is that it takes place two years before Think of England.


message 13: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Explanatory note added to series page.


message 14: by Emy (last edited Sep 25, 2019 08:36AM) (new)

Emy (emypt) | 5037 comments I think we're all talking at cross purposes here. These are two standalone books within a shared world.

To some authors "series" implies both continuous story and therefore a need to read Book 1 before Book 2 and so on. We can agree that this is not that kind of series.

Goodreads classes as series books which have a shared world, Shared characters, or a continuous story. However, any given series does not need to have more than one of the above. In this case, it has two - shared characters and shared world. For our purposes, this is clearly a series as the works are sequential even if they're not part of a formal series.

EDIT: Thanks Rivka


message 15: by E. (new)

E. (ecatherinetobler) | 8 comments Okay. Y'all are not hearing what is being said. Author has proposed a solution here https://www.goodreads.com/book/edit/4...

There remains an incorrect/duplicate listing with this author as well--yes, I listed this as a problem elsewhere, but maybe someone here can also fix this.

This is the bad/duplicate:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...

This is the already-existing proper page:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4...


message 16: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9557 comments That seems fine to me, since "Think of England" doesn't seem to be printed anywhere on the books. Edited.

Fixed the name on Gilded Cage & combined.


message 17: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
If the author wishes to comment in this thread, they are welcome to do so.


message 18: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
E. wrote: "yes, I listed this as a problem elsewhere, but maybe someone here can also fix this."

Please only list requests once in this group.


message 19: by K.J. (new)

K.J. Charles (kjcharles) | 5 comments If the books are to be listed as "England" series, please can Proper English be listed as book 1, Think of England as book 2, and Song for a Viking as 2.5? Since Proper English is a standalone novel and comes first chronologically, and the series name is a Goodreads-only creation, there is no reason to start it at 0.5.

Thanks very much.


message 20: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9557 comments Yes. Proper English should have had a whole number to begin with.


message 21: by Olivia (new)

Olivia (livka) | 7926 comments Scott wrote: "Yes. Proper English should have had a whole number to begin with."

It should be #0 though, if that's a prequel


message 22: by Scott (new)

Scott | 9557 comments Ah, right. Edited again.


message 23: by K.J. (new)

K.J. Charles (kjcharles) | 5 comments It isn't a prequel. It's a standalone story that takes place two years before a different standalone story. I don't list these books as a series on any retail site. However, if you are going to create a series label for them, it doesn't make any sense to start it at #0 or #0.5.

Either it's chronological by story events, in which case the first book is Proper English (#1) and the second is Think of England (#2). Or it is chronological by publication date, in which case the first book is Think of England (#1) and the second is Proper English (#2). I think it should be the former. Either way, there's no reason to start this brand new series anywhere that isn't #1.


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