Does this book work for the task....?

[Moderators of NBRC, Challenger-in-Chief]

Sometimes we can't help ourselves but to overthink a task or question our initial thoughts. We would like you all as players to help each other out with questions around tasks.

If you have a book you think may work for a task, but you aren’t sure, take it to this thread (where the result is binding).


If in doubt, or you don't receive a majority answer, then don't use the book :)

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[Alysa]

Nice! I will start:

Fellow players, do you think that the lighting on this cover is “something hot”?:

[Louise]

Alysa wrote: "Nice! I will start:

Fellow players, do you think that the lighting on this cover is “something hot”?:
"

Going on this from How stuff Works
With bolt temperatures hotter than the surface of the sun I’d say yes⚡️

[Lau]

Would this be ok as prove for the 4 narrators?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magicians-Ne...

It's a dramatized version of the book and it says "full cast" on amazon

[Alysa]

Lau Maia wrote: "Would this be ok as prove for the 4 narrators?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magicians-Ne...

It's a dramatized version of the book and it says "full cast" on amazon"


Link isn't working...

[Lau]

I've updated it, thanks and sorry

[Alysa]

Thanks!

Real-Life librarian here :)

Unfortunately the only record I could find with any additional information that matches that link points to a version that's not long enough for this challenge. [see if you're able: OCLC #870961616].
There's a list of at least 10 of the narrators, but it's explicitly stated to be abridged and only 115 min long.

[Lau]

But that's ok cause I'm not listening to it, I'm reading the portuguese version, if there's 10 narrators than it should fit the challenge

[Alysa]

Personally I would say no because it’s not a widely available, unabridged audio version with easily confirmed multiple narrators that anybody can check. Instead it’s a really obscure abridged version. Maybe someone else can answer here if they don’t agree.

[Alysa]

Wait, if it’s actually as you said in the original post a “dramatized” version of The Magician’s Nephew, not even a pure (even abridged) recording of the book, than that’s an adaptation — basically a play — and not the book itself at all. The “narrators” are the cast of actors doing line reading. So that definitely does not work for the task at all.

Sorry I didn’t quite register that “dramatized” part in the first place.

[Lau]

Thanks Alysa. I haven't started it yet cause I just woke up. This task is hard

[Alysa]

Try doing a google search for
audible “multi-voiced performance"
;D

[Cat]

Lau Maia wrote: "Thanks Alysa. I haven't started it yet cause I just woke up. This task is hard"

Off the top of my head:
- The Illuminae Files series
- The Themis Files series
- Lincoln in the Bardo (I've heard mixed things about this one as an audio experience though)
- Sadie

[Lau]

Thanks cat, we figured it out 😘

[Beth]

Is this a better place to ask about a disqualified book?

(Copied from Questions for the Vulcanologists)

Hi moderators.

I read The Valley of Shadows as Mike Massa's debut book for task 1. While he wrote a short story that was included in the anthology Black Tide Rising I don't think that counts as writing a whole book. The first time he was involved in a novel length story was the book that I read.

Beth, Team Not Yet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...

[Alysa]

Hm. Yeah. I didn’t go and look at all his listed work (and I am not a Mod), but if it’s true that he had previously published only a short story in an anthology, then I would agree that his first full length work would indeed be his debut novel. I recall often seeing blurbs saying stuff like “Finally, our beloved short story writer has published his/her debut novel”!

ETA: I guess it seems a little strange to use a co-authored book as an author’s “debut novel” if it’s not the debut of *both* of the authors involved. But again, technically speaking, your book would still be Massa’s full-length debut novel, :/

[Cat]

@Beth, Karen's the ultimate decision maker (she's not playing so is objective) and she's asleep right now. She'll consider when she gets time

[Moderators of NBRC, Challenger-in-Chief]

Beth & Team Not Yet:

We've had a good ol' head-scratch over this one, and - by the narrowest of margins - decided to allow this one.
We'll get your points back shortly.

For the future, and for all other teams: if a book is possibly debatable, check with other teams here. The Mods won't over-ride a group approval for those sorts of questions. We might not be so generous for the next close-call though!

[Beth]

Thanks so much for your generosity!

In my feeble defense, since I didn't use the anthology for a challenge I never noticed that Goodreads "helpfully" listed half the short story writers as co-authors. I had heard him on a podcast talking about how excited he was when his short story submission landed him a chance to write with John Ringo and become a "real author", so I only knew this was his debut novel. It never entered my head that this was controversial, but I should have thought of it!

[Sammy]

Does leaves from a tree/ bush visible on the cover count for a book with a green item on the cover?

[Leslie Ann]

or
would u consider this bright green

[Sammy]

Leslie Ann wrote: " or
would u consider this bright green"

Personally, I'd say yes :)

[Lisa - (Aussie Girl)]

Leslie Ann wrote: " or
would u consider this bright green"

Yes, definitely bright green IMHO.

[Jessi]

Sammy wrote: "Does leaves from a tree/ bush visible on the cover count for a book with a green item on the cover?

"

I would say yes!

[Lisa - (Aussie Girl)]

For something nasty on the cover (up to interpretation) -

I really want to read this book this week, LOL . So pretty please...

- it's got a big dagger on the cover which I'm thinking is pretty "nasty" especially if it ends up in someone's gut. Yay or Nay??

[Alysa]

Same question re bright/acid green:



Tin Eye says cover is over 90% greens, but obviously only a smaller percentage is bright/acid green.
Is it enough, considering overall amount of green?
If you enlarge cover image here on GR, it really seems like it might be!

[Leslie Ann]

Lisa - (Aussie Girl) wrote: "For something nasty on the cover (up to interpretation) -

I really want to read this book this week, LOL . So pretty please...

- it's got a big dagger on the cov..."
I think that sounds nasty .

[Leslie Ann]

Alysa wrote: "Same question re bright/acid green:



Tin Eye says cover is over 90% greens, but obviously only a smaller percentage is bright/acid green.
Is it enough, considering ov..."
I think the bright/acid green has to be 50%

[Lisa - (Aussie Girl)]

Leslie Ann wrote: "Lisa - (Aussie Girl) wrote: "For something nasty on the cover (up to interpretation) -

I really want to read this book this week, LOL . So pretty please...

- it'..."

Thank you Leslie Ann! Anyone else have an opinion..

[Jenny]

Not sure if I am catching all of these, but yes for the dagger being nasty, yes on the leaves being a green object, go by Tineye for the acid green on Fablehaven.

[Lexi]

Jenny, I think the issue is that Tineye does not clarify if it is bright green. I looked at that one for our group and by Tineye, 68.7% is the seaweed green, which is the dark green. Less than 25% are the bright greens (rainforest, olive and fern green), so I would go with no.

[Jenny]

Yeah, I looked too. I meant go by the color bars on Tineye. I should have just said that I don't think that one will work.

I, on the other hand have a lovely acid green book that I have been planning to read for a couple of years, and it did not work for Uno, and does not contain the correct letters for the author for this task. So annoying. I will read it one day!!!!

[Alysa]

Thanks Jenny & Lexi !

[Devann]

for the 'something green on the cover' do 'random blobs' count or do we think it needs to be something concrete like a tree or a lamp or something?

asking about this book in particular because to me there is indeed something green on the cover but i'm just never sure how nitpicky we're being lol. probably overthinking it.

[Sammy]

Devann wrote: "for the 'something green on the cover' do 'random blobs' count or do we think it needs to be something concrete like a tree or a lamp or something?

asking about [bookcover:The Blazing World|467785..."

I get ya... It's the wording of "green item on the cover" that makes this task tricky to figure out. Technically I wouldn't class the above as being an "item" as such, though I would personally lean more towards the "it's green, it's good" side of the argument, lol.

[Laura]

Bright Green?

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

“Something xyz on the cover” is meant to encompass anything but not the writing showing the authors name or book title.

[Alysa]

Laura wrote: "Bright Green? "

Tin Eye says only 33.3% bright/acid green...

[Alysa]

Sammy wrote: "Technically I wouldn't class the above as being an "item" as such, though I would personally lean more towards the "it's green, it's good" side of the argument, lol."

And I would go the other way on that one, since the green is just kind of random background w/the pink.
I think Karen is implying that it works though (message #39), because it isn't the name/author :D

[Karen ⊰✿, Fiction Aficionado]

I wasn’t really looking at the cover as I’m on the app and it’s too hard to make a call. I just wanted to be clear what “something” was designed to mean 😉

(And if the green blobs are part of what would you could consider as the cover background (colour cover) then it wouldn’t count. )

[Devann]

yeah i would say it probably doesn't count then as the whole background is just kind of the green and purple blobs lol oh well

[Shanna_redwind]

Would the steam from a locomotive be considered hot?
The Angels of Morgan Hill

[Lexi]

Shanna, I googled temperature of water in steam engine and it gets to 160-200 degrees F or 71-93 C. This seems hot to me.

[Sammy]

Shanna_redwind wrote: "Would the steam from a locomotive be considered hot?
The Angels of Morgan Hill "

Heck yes!

[Lexi]

I do not think anyone has asked about this book yet. Do people consider this one bright green? It is 55% green if you add the greens together and the majority of that is called fruit salad green.

[Alysa]

Looks pretty bright to me!

[Alysa]

Is the “fruit salad” more than 50% though?

[Jenny]

Love that it is called fruit salad.

Best job in the world, right? Go to work, exchange emails, talk to your coworkers, go to lunch, have four martinis, then go back to work and give colors names. Only thing that makes sense.