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message 1: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new) - rated it 4 stars

Allison Hurd | 14252 comments Mod
Here's the first impressions for the translated scifi book for July! What do you think so far? Please leave all discussion of plot, character growth, or any other specifics for the full discussion thread open on the 7th.

Content warnings: (view spoiler)

Another note: the alternate title for this book is "The Edge of Tomorrow." It is also printed as a novel and a manga. The group is reading the novel.


message 2: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 947 comments An exciting, tense beginning.


message 3: by Trike (last edited Jul 01, 2019 01:28PM) (new)

Trike I’ve owned this book for years but haven’t gotten around to it yet. I actually bought it before the movie came out yet somehow didn’t read it.

The film is superb, and I’ve watched it at least a dozen times. I hear they’re making a sequel, although I don’t know how they’re going to do that. It’s a perfect one-and-done.

Edge of Tomorrow (aka Live Die Repeat): https://youtu.be/bydHcLDfWuY

Edit to add the better trailer.


Anthony (albinokid) | 1481 comments I’m almost done and would have finished sooner if it weren’t for a crazy schedule the last couple of days. It’s very readable, although I’m not sure it tackles its themes with as much depth as I’d hoped. It’s also a fascinating mashup of ideas, styles, and tropes. Above all else, I’m not sure I ever would have heard of this book, let alone read it, if it weren’t for this group, and as always I’m grateful for being exposed to work that is new to me.


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Jacqueline | 2428 comments I haven't been able to find the actual book but did find the audiobook. Don't know if I want to listen to it though. Do you reckon watching Tom and Emily would suffice? The way I feel at the moment it might be the best I'm going to get with this one.


message 6: by Allison, Fairy Mod-mother (new) - rated it 4 stars

Allison Hurd | 14252 comments Mod
I haven't watched the movie, so I'll leave that for someone else! But the audiobook was well done and very quick!


Meredith | 1819 comments I watched the movie a couple years back and enjoyed it more than I expected. I was very interested to read the original book and see how it compared. So far, it's a quick read but pulls you right into the complicated story very well.


Anthony (albinokid) | 1481 comments Oh my, no spoilers at all, but the final third of the book just pretty much ruined it all for me. Super disappointed.


Adam (adamplacker) | 1 comments So far I'm loving it! What a beginning! Not the sort of book I'd typically read but I'm thankful to the group for opening my eyes to it.


message 10: by Andy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Andy Giesler (andy_giesler) | 148 comments Trike wrote: "The film is superb, and I’ve watched it at least a dozen times."

You're aware of the irony in that, right? (I've probably watched it half a dozen times.)


MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 2207 comments Jacqueline wrote: "I haven't been able to find the actual book but did find the audiobook. Don't know if I want to listen to it though. Do you reckon watching Tom and Emily would suffice? The way I feel at the moment..."

The book and the movie are very, very different.


MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 2207 comments So, I didn't really care for this book on one hand but I enjoyed it on another. I liked the movie more...but the book is much more realistic.


message 13: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 947 comments I love the movie. I love Tom Cruise. He's crazy, doing his own stunts (and especially in the last one).

The opening chapter is visceral; reminds me of Saving Private Ryan, trying to stay alive in the madness and confusion of combat.


message 14: by Trike (new)

Trike Andy wrote: "Trike wrote: "The film is superb, and I’ve watched it at least a dozen times."

You're aware of the irony in that, right? (I've probably watched it half a dozen times.)"


I don’t think that word means what you think it means.


MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 2207 comments M.L. wrote: "I love the movie. I love Tom Cruise. He's crazy, doing his own stunts (and especially in the last one).

The opening chapter is visceral; reminds me of Saving Private Ryan, trying to stay alive in ..."


I just didn't like them creating a whole character for Cruise. He could have played the book's MC as is.


message 16: by Hank, Hankenstein's Modster (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hank (hankenstein) | 1241 comments Mod
I went with the manga and it was good although not very deep.


message 17: by Wen (new) - rated it 2 stars

Wen | 401 comments I wasn’t interested in the movie or the novel. And I just realized the illustrator for the manga is the one for Moriarty the Patriot (Everyone is so beautiful in story~ Ahh, what kind of review is this?). I guess I’ll give the manga a try.


message 18: by Wen (new) - rated it 2 stars

Wen | 401 comments Hmm, I think I should rephrase as after I read it, I don’t really like it. Not interested in it sounds a bit arrogant, ahh, sorry...


message 19: by Esther (last edited Jul 03, 2019 02:45AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Esther (eshchory) | 555 comments I thought I had the manga version but it turns out I have the novel so once I have finished my present book I will be joining you.

I liked the movie but had forgotten it was based on the novel.


Mareike | 1457 comments I don't think I've ever seen the movie version of this. I read the first section of the first chapter this morning and while I'm interested to see where this goes from here, I'm not necessarily hooked.


message 21: by Andy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Andy Giesler (andy_giesler) | 148 comments Trike wrote: "I don’t think that word means what you think it means."

Inconceivable.


message 22: by Paul (new) - rated it 4 stars

Paul Jerimy (pauljerimy) | 42 comments The start is pretty good. I like the novel opening more than the movie one so far. The style and language is a little juvenile, but that matches the story.

I'm also happy to read a short novel. I've been reading a lot of 600-1200 page epics lately and need a faster pace story.


Jessika McDonald | 1 comments Just wow on this book. I really really enjoy it. I thought that the author has a great tone in the book so far. It started a little slow, but dang I got hooked very fast.


Oleksandr Zholud | 927 comments I am now at 50 percent mark and while it is an easy read, I can not say it is on the level with other power armour SF novels of note.


Joelle.P.S | 150 comments It sucked me in slowly, but then I devoured the 2nd half quickly.


Chris | 1131 comments I might not get to this for a while, but I am curious about whether anyone else thinks of the Beatles song. I keep hearing the brass section in the chorus of "All You Need Is Love."


message 27: by Anna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anna Mocikat I, too, loved the movie and can't wait to start with the book! Seems most here like it so far... :)


Esther (eshchory) | 555 comments I have just started but it is good so far.


Esther (eshchory) | 555 comments Oleksandr wrote: "I am now at 50 percent mark and while it is an easy read, I can not say it is on the level with other power armour SF novels of note."

Which others would you recommend?


message 30: by J.W. (new) - rated it 5 stars

J.W. | 229 comments I think the only audio version I found was abridged. Did anyone find unabridged?


message 31: by Anna (new) - rated it 1 star

Anna (vegfic) | 10464 comments J.w. wrote: "I think the only audio version I found was abridged. Did anyone find unabridged?"

This says unabridged: https://www.audible.com/pd/B00JPJ6LE6


Oleksandr Zholud | 927 comments Esther wrote: "Oleksandr wrote: "I am now at 50 percent mark and while it is an easy read, I can not say it is on the level with other power armour SF novels of note."

Which others would you recommend?"


Usually the classical four are
Starship Troopers
The Forever War
Armor
Old Man's War


message 33: by Ryan (new) - rated it 3 stars

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 178 comments Oleksandr wrote: "I am now at 50 percent mark and while it is an easy read, I can not say it is on the level with other power armour SF novels of note."
Power armor SF? Does that just mean SF that has powered armor in it? It sounds a bit too specific to be a genre.


Esther (eshchory) | 555 comments Oleksandr wrote: "Esther wrote: "Oleksandr wrote: "I am now at 50 percent mark and while it is an easy read, I can not say it is on the level with other power armour SF novels of note."

Which others would you recom..."


Starship Troopers I want to read but never get round to it. The Forever War I found interesting but dated.
Scalzi is one of my favourite authors but Old Man's War has body enhancements not power armour. His Lock In series sort of has power armour though there are no bodies inside and it isn't military scifi.
Some of the Warhammer stories are interesting. They have a range of mechanincs, power armour and genetic/bio-engineered body enhancements.


Esther (eshchory) | 555 comments I am about half-way through.
I like the tone which is calm and conversational and the fact that the story advances without endless descriptions of the obviously, repetitive battles going on behind the scenes.


Oleksandr Zholud | 927 comments I have meant not power armour SF but novels with strong military line and warriors with super human abilities, whether in armour or body modification. Of course there are a lot of such books, but I tried to name the ones assumed to be the most important or popular of the ones I noted, there are award winners. Also these ones concidered mainstream, unlike Warhammer or Mechwarrior


MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 2207 comments Love, love, LOVE Starship Troopers but it is not action-y.

Old Man's War does have armor but its nano-tech, not powersuited. It's an excellent read, however.


message 38: by M.L. (new)

M.L. | 947 comments Too existential. I understand why he would be but the way it's written interferes with the story. I've read about half of it. Definitely like the movie better.


message 39: by Anna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anna Mocikat I'm at 25% now and am enjoying it a lot so far. It's an easy read, and even though I knew the story from the movie, the book managed to spark my interest and pull me in instantly.
I'm going to spend the day at the pool tomorrow and finish reading. Looking forward to that!
What also surprised me is that Hollywood for once didn't screw up a story when adapting a book to a movie. Happens rarely enough imo.


message 40: by Tom (new) - rated it 4 stars

Tom Mathews I just finished listening to the audio version of this. I haven't seen the movie (not even once) so I knew nothing about it other than what almost everyone already knows. I thought it was pretty good and appreciated its brevity.


Esther (eshchory) | 555 comments I have just rewatched the film and am suprised how much it differs from the book.
I like the film especially Emliy Blunt but I would love a more close adaptation of the book set in Japan.


MrsJoseph *grouchy* (mrsjoseph) | 2207 comments Esther wrote: "I have just rewatched the film and am suprised how much it differs from the book.
I like the film especially Emliy Blunt but I would love a more close adaptation of the book set in Japan."


You know, I was ok with the movie being set elsewhere - it was the lack of Japanese characters (and MC) that bothered me the most.


message 43: by Anna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anna Mocikat Esther wrote: "I have just rewatched the film and am suprised how much it differs from the book.
I like the film especially Emliy Blunt but I would love a more close adaptation of the book set in Japan."

It's simple marketing why they choose to make such changes. Hollywood always tries to sell their movies to a wide audience worldwide. With budgets of 300 million and more that's only understandable.
So, it's logical to cast Tom Cruise as the main character instead of a Japanese actor nobody outside of Japan knows.
But to see characters which have been clearly discribed in a certain way in a book cast completetly different in a movie is always irritating. I agree with that.


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