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message 1: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Oct 29, 2019 11:03AM) (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
This is to be the longest-term Buddy Read for Worm. This monstrosity of a "book" is listed at 6680 7000 pages (top 5 editions), which is just an estimate made by the author of 1.7 million words / 250 words per page (sounds like a school homework definition to me).

You can find the web-serial here: https://parahumans.wordpress.com/

If you want to read on an ereader device, you'll need to do the work, making an ebook in Calibre, after putting all the text into a text document (author's way of cutting down on theft of IP, making it a bit harder to share)

If you'd prefer an audiobook, fans have made a 180hr podcast of the book (quality varies, I hear, but I'm going to try it)... you can get details on it, and where to find it with your preferred podcast app here: http://audioworm.rein-online.org/

If you prefer to speed your audiobooks up, the best solution seems to be to download it in iTunes/GooglePlay, and change the filetype from podcast to audiobook, like I did... I then broke the book into 5 sub-books...

WARNING: The whole series of 300 podcasts is 8.5GB, so some people might want to do this in smaller chunks... the 5 pieces I broke the book down into are Arcs 1-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-26, and 27-31... each chunk is 30-40hrs long, each arc is 5-13 chapters/podcasts long... there are 1-8 Interludes between arcs... and each arc is a novella to novel-length storyline... so while this is all listed as one book, it is actually easily digestible in smaller chunks...

Considering the length of the book, and varying reading speeds, I don't want to try and force a timeline on anyone, but just having somewhere to discuss this monstrosity should be great, and motivating... if anyone has any ideas, tho, feel free to share them...

Yanique and Elinor have already shown interest... everyone is welcome...

EDIT: I've started splitting the story into breakable larger story arcs, once you get past my mathy 1300-1500 page division post:

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 2: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Jan 23, 2019 10:12PM) (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
:( Sorry Arkadeb >:D

I see you've been reading this all month... if someone ereads this in our Buddy Read, they'll earn ~120 points... as an audiobook reader, I'll earn ~95 points...

Some people probably won't even be able to finish the whole "book" within the timeline of the competition (sorry to single you out, Elinor, but 6700 pages IS alot)

Maybe you can break it up, and count the arcs you read... on audio, the reading speed averages out to 37pgs/hr, so I can estimate pages per chunk by looking at the length of each chunk...

Part I = Arc 01-10 = 37hrs = 1369 pages + 100 = 1469 pages
Part II = Arc 11-15 = 36hrs = 1332 pages + 50 = 1382 pages
Part III = Arc 16-20 = 35hrs = 1295 pages + 50 = 1345 pages
Part IV = Arc 21-26 = 40hrs = 1480 pages + 60 = 1540 pages
Part V = Arc 27-31 = 31hrs = 1147 pages + 57 missing pages + 60 = 1264

7000 - (1469 + 1382 + 1345 + 1540 + 1207 = 6943) = 57 missing pages

EDIT: Virginie pointed out that there is a 7000 page edition in the top 5... instead of doing all the math again, I just added 10 pages to Arcs 1-30, and 20 to the last arc... that adds in the missing 320 pages...


message 3: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Oct 29, 2019 02:08PM) (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
(view spoiler)

I did all this math 9 months ago, and today Virginie posted accurate numbers from her ebook, on page 4: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 4: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Oct 29, 2019 11:02AM) (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
To all future readers, it might help to consider this book in smaller Super-Arcs:

Super-Arc 1: Arcs 1-8: Origin Story
Super-Arc 2: Arc 9-14: The S9
Super-Arc 3: TBD
Super-Arc 4: TBD
Super-Arc 5" TBD

These Arcs are meant to better split the story, rather than just topping out a 5x Stormlight Archive size tomes...


message 5: by Yanique, Thread Master (new)

Yanique Gillana | 2876 comments Mod
Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Hopefully I didn't waste all that time/math... hopefully it's useful to someone :)"

Man! That's some hoop jumping and I'm lazy (I'm sure it's chronic) so I'll be e-reading on the website. Wish me luck, LOL!


message 6: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Yanique wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Hopefully I didn't waste all that time/math... hopefully it's useful to someone :)"

Man! That's some hoop jumping and I'm lazy (I'm sure it's chronic) so I'll be e-r..."


Virginie is currently reading, Arkadeb just finished, and idiffer read this a year or 2 ago... maybe one of those could hook you up, if they made ebooks, through email/direct message... benefit from their efforts...

Virginie started custom-making ebooks last year, for her Short Story A Day thread... https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...


message 7: by Hailee (last edited Jan 22, 2019 09:01PM) (new)

Hailee | 2762 comments I decided to give this a try. I have a lot of "wasted" time during the day where reading a paperback isn't practical but I can read on my phone. So this seemed like a good thing to fit in since reading the paperback of this isn't an option anyway.

I should easily get an arc read each week so it'll take me up to about July/August. I'm not putting it on my currently reading shelf though since having it hanging around that long will annoy me. I'll just mark it as read once I've finished it.

I read arc 1 tonight and quite enjoyed it. (view spoiler)


message 8: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Hailee wrote: "I decided to give this a try. I have a lot of "wasted" time during the day where reading a paperback isn't practical but I can read on my phone so this seemed like a good thing to fit in since read..."

I imagine it would be super useful tho... just look at the ninja ferrets in Hidden Legacy...


message 9: by Hailee (new)

Hailee | 2762 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Hailee wrote: "I decided to give this a try. I have a lot of "wasted" time during the day where reading a paperback isn't practical but I can read on my phone so this seemed like a good thing to fi..."

Haha maybe but (view spoiler)


message 10: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Hailee wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Hailee wrote: "I decided to give this a try. I have a lot of "wasted" time during the day where reading a paperback isn't practical but I can read on my phone so this..."

You know Children of Time is about a planet of super-intelligent bugs, right?... I checked, and you didn't read it with us last year, but it's on your TBR...


message 11: by Hailee (last edited Jan 22, 2019 10:03PM) (new)

Hailee | 2762 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Hailee wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Hailee wrote: "I decided to give this a try. I have a lot of "wasted" time during the day where reading a paperback isn't practical but I can read on m..."

No I didn't have time to fit it in when everyone read it last year but yeah I own a copy ready to read.

So super-intelligent bugs? That should be an interesting reading experience 😂😂. I'll have to hope they are human sized. Weird that that would make it better but its them flying in your
face and potentially landing on you that freaks me out about flying bugs.


message 12: by Anni (new)

Anni | 5066 comments Hailee wrote: " I'll have to hope they are human sized. Weird that that would make it better but its them flying in your face and potentially landing on you that freaks me out about flying bugs. "

Sorry, but this made me laugh, it's really cute somehow! 😂


message 13: by Anni (new)

Anni | 5066 comments I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬


message 14: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

You and Elinor can schedule a slower pace... 6680 pages probably equals several years... Me and Yanique will probably read it in a month or 2... dunno where Hailee will fit on the spectrum...

At least all the math I did in comments 2-3 should help you earn some points out of the BR, even if you don't finish it all by October...

I actually thought of you, and a scheduled read, when I first started thinking about reading this, but the timeline daunted me... it seems like a nice pairing with Super Powereds, tho... Hero training vs morally ambiguous Hero/Villain survival (that's the vibe I get from reviews/comments, anyway...


message 15: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Jan 22, 2019 10:40PM) (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Hailee wrote: "I decided to give this a try. I have a lot of "wasted" time during the day where reading a paperback isn't practical but I can read on my phone. So this seemed like a good thing to fit in since rea..."

The armor is cool, tho... (view spoiler)

At least it's not like Men in Black, with the person made out of cockroaches...

I started listening to Arc 1 (Gestation), by the way...


message 16: by Anni (new)

Anni | 5066 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

You and Elinor can schedule a slower pace... 6680 pages probably equals several years... Me a..."


I would do audio as well, so I won't need till October. I think two weeks per part shouldn't be too stressfull.


message 17: by Elinor (new)

Elinor | 1548 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

You and Elinor can schedule a slower pace... 6680 pages probably equals several years... Me a..."


I'm all for slower pace... wait, what do you mean, everybody already knows that I'm a snail ?

Hailee wrote: "I decided to give this a try. I have a lot of "wasted" time during the day where reading a paperback isn't practical but I can read on my phone. So this seemed like a good thing to fit in since rea..."

An arc a week seems doable... I think I'm going to set myself the goal to have it finish by the end of the competition, to have some extra weeks just in case, and see how that goes. I may set the bar lower if I feel too much pressure :)


message 18: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Sir Anni wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

You and Elinor can schedule a slower pace... 6680 pages probab..."


My comparison was to the fact the 800 page Superpowereds takes 2 months :)


message 19: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Elinor Master of Gifs wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

You and Elinor can schedule a slower pace... 6680 pages probab..."


I dunno that you're a snail... you just spread your reading time out across more books/comics... anything is slower, when I read about 400 pages/day, and devote it all to a single book at a time, for the most part... no judgment...


message 20: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
The fact that most of the smaller audiobook contributors are Interlude readers, seems like it's going to work out well... the Interludes are from the POV of side characters anyway, so giving them a different voice is nice...

I'm early into Arc 2, now...


message 21: by Elinor (new)

Elinor | 1548 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Elinor Master of Gifs wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

You and Elinor can schedule a sl..."


I am not as fast a reader as a lot of people here... but I do jave some excuses ^^ everything is indeed slower when you read a lot of books at the same time like I do, sometimes it is frustrating, but most of the time that's what I prefer. Also I now read a lot in english and I'm still not as fast in english than in my mother tongue.

Can we use roman numbers for the bigger parts or something ? Because I am confused between the smaller and bigger parts ;p or perhaps calling arcs the small ones and parts the big ones ?


message 22: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Arc 2: Bullying: (view spoiler)


message 23: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Elinor Master of Gifs wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Elinor Master of Gifs wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

Y..."


I'm changing it, but the real problem was me typing Arc instead of Part


message 24: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Elinor Master of Gifs wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Elinor Master of Gifs wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "I'm also interested. It sounds like it would be a great book for a scheduled read? 😬"

Y..."


My problem, with books like this, is I want to call the arcs chapters, even tho there are technically smaller chapters within each arc...

The podcast follows the website numbering, which is 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 2.1, etc... with Interludes getting numbers or letters, for unknown reasons...


message 25: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments WEEEEEE PEOPLE READING WORM! :D


message 26: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments I've been reading one arc per week so far. I'll speed up/slow down depending on my BR schedule, I think. (Urgh, I'm already late to everything :p)


message 27: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Btw, since we're using the highest page count of the 5 most popular editions for the competition... It's 7000 pages.


message 28: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Jan 23, 2019 02:46AM) (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Virginie wrote: "Btw, since we're using the highest page count of the 5 most popular editions for the competition... It's 7000 pages."

uh... I don't want to do the math again... just give every Arc ten more pages, and the last one 20... problem solved...

Realistically, the math is more like 9 more pages every 5hrs...


message 29: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Haha, yeah, I figured. I was planning on going the lazy route, and just add 1400 pages every 20% :p


message 30: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Virginie wrote: "Haha, yeah, I figured. I was planning on going the lazy route, and just add 1400 pages every 20% :p"

That's basically what breaking the book into 5 Parts did for me, as well...


message 31: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Bwahahaha! Sorry? :p


message 32: by Virginie (last edited Jan 23, 2019 02:58AM) (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments For those interested, I made an ebook of the whole thing. I already gave it to Elinor. PM me and I'll send you the link.

I only ask that you don't share it online/send it the other people (copyright issues). The author doesn't want a "full" ebook to circulate in case he ever wants to professionally publish his work.


message 33: by Virginie (last edited Jan 23, 2019 03:11AM) (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Arc 2: Bullying (spoilers removed)"

Oh, I didn't think of (view spoiler)


message 34: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Virginie wrote: "Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Arc 2: Bullying (spoilers removed)"

Oh, I didn't think of the possibility of an emotions-based power. I don't think so, though. Just simple, mean bullying.

Those pa..."


Especially since Arkadeb/everyone says this is a pretty dark book... no simple black & white characters here... (view spoiler)


message 35: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Especially since Arkadeb/everyone says this is a pretty dark book..."

Yeah. (view spoiler)


message 36: by Jenna, I'd be free if not for Temper & Edgewalker (new)

Jenna Kathleen (jennakathleen) | 5178 comments Mod
For whatever crazy reason, I have been convinced and am here to join the party.


message 37: by Soo (new)

Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments How's the writing?


message 38: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Soo wrote: "How's the writing?"

I haven't noticed any problem yet... most things, like typos, probably won't be noticeable on audio... I'm only about 100-150 pages in so far, tho...


message 39: by Anni (new)

Anni | 5066 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "If you prefer to speed your audiobooks up, the best solution seems to be to download it in iTunes/GooglePlay, and change the filetype from podcast to audiobook, like I did... I then broke the book into 5 sub-books......"

You don't have to necessarily, you could also just use one of the Potcast-players. I downloaded "WeCast" (Yeah, I picked that one because it has a smileyface 😂), it's pretty simple, but does everything I want a audiobook app to do and you can speed it up, up to 2.5x


message 40: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Yanique wrote: "Virginie wrote: "WEEEEEE PEOPLE READING WORM! :D"

Did you make this into a downloaded ebook format? Iain was saying that you might have. If yes, are you willing to share?"


Just Direct Message her from her profile, and she'll send you a link... she doesn't want it leaking out to the internet at large... where it could hurt the author, in the future, if/when he publishes professionally...


message 41: by Soo (new)

Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments One of my friends told me the writing is okay. I want more affirmations on this before I give it a shot.

*editing rampage* hahaha


message 42: by Yanique, Thread Master (new)

Yanique Gillana | 2876 comments Mod
Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "Yanique wrote: "Virginie wrote: "WEEEEEE PEOPLE READING WORM! :D"

Did you make this into a downloaded ebook format? Iain was saying that you might have. If yes, are you willing to share?"

Just Di..."


gotcha!


message 43: by jess (new)

jess (nu6586) | 1729 comments Bookmarking this...in case...


message 44: by Elinor (new)

Elinor | 1548 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "I'm changing it, but the real problem was me typing Arc instead of Part "

XD


message 45: by Elinor (new)

Elinor | 1548 comments Jenna wrote: "For whatever crazy reason, I have been convinced and am here to join the party."

Yeah ! (Jaghut represents !)

Jess wrote: "Bookmarking this...in case..."

Bookmarking because you ARE joining us ;p


message 46: by Hailee (last edited Jan 23, 2019 05:58PM) (new)

Hailee | 2762 comments I've just finished Arc 2: Insinuation

(view spoiler)

Interlude 2 (view spoiler)


message 47: by Bill (new)

Bill | 2150 comments I’m so joining this. Will probably start in the next week or two.


message 48: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Edited all the math at the top, to add in the 320 missing pages, after Virginie pointed out the 7000 page edition was within our rules for the competition... did it the easy way, just adding a flat 10 pages per arc, and 10 leftover pages to the last arc...


message 49: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35316 comments Mod
Hailee wrote: "I've just finished Arc 2: Insinuation

[spoilers removed]

Interlude 2 [spoilers removed]"


Yea... I stopped near the end of Arc 2: Insinuation, yesterday (2.8, I think): (view spoiler)


message 50: by Soo (new)

Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments I'm going to start on 2/1. I already juggling a couple of epic books. =)


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