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Book 14 - Fool's Assassin > Fool's Assassin > Part 7: Chapter 31 - Epilogue & Overall Discussion (Full Spoilers)

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message 251: by Emma (last edited Apr 23, 2015 05:11AM) (new)

Emma  | 92 comments That's actually beautiful...it appears that against all odds we imagine the Fool in pretty much the exact same way!

[e] I love how you've done his eyes. It just brought to mind when Fitz asks if it bothers the Fool that he's witted, and the Fool says something along the lines of "does it bother you to meet my eyes?"

It's perfect!


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Emma  | 92 comments Scarletine wrote: "I'm still thinking he drinks a vial of dragon blood. It's the only way he will be healed, regain his sight and turn into an elderling."

Just thinking, if the Fool does drink dragon blood, wont that force a mental bond between him and whichever dragon it belongs to? It did with Sedric, when he drank Relpda's blood.

And I don't think it's been long enough for new dragons to be hatched, I can't remember how long the hatching cycle is supposed to take but I think it's upwards of a hundred years. So that means the Fool would have to bond with an existing dragon...and the only dragon I can think of who didn't already have an Elderling at the end was Baliper.

So it could be possible that the Fool ends up alongside the dragon keepers from RWC? If so, it seems a shame that Mercor has Sylvie, that would have been an awesome pairing.


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Scarletine | 469 comments Emma Jane wrote: "That's actually beautiful...it appears that against all odds we imagine the Fool in pretty much the exact same way!

[e] I love how you've done his eyes. It just brought to mind when Fitz asks if i..."


Thank you so much! I think alot of the 'cover artist' are afraid of his gentleness and androgeny,(which is what attracts me to the character!) and they haven't read all the books. This is a *man* who has to be able to cut it as Amber for 10(ish) years in Bingtown...His continual 'remaking' of his image is very Bowie!


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Scarletine | 469 comments Emma Jane wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "I'm still thinking he drinks a vial of dragon blood. It's the only way he will be healed, regain his sight and turn into an elderling."

Just thinking, if the Fool does drink dra..."


By rights he should be bonded to IceFyre(is he still alive?) or Tintaglia because of what he went through to bring them together. They owe him!!


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Wastrel | 270 comments Not to be pedantic, but if that's as late as the carving, shouldn't he be Lord Golden? That is... golden? Having passed through 'amber' and out the other side on his way to black? He's only pale when he's the Fool - it's a plot point!


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Emma  | 92 comments Scarletine wrote: "By rights he should be bonded to IceFyre(is he still alive?) or Tintaglia because of what he went through to bring them together. They owe him!!"

I think Tintaglia is bonded to Malta, Reyn and Ephron, isn't she? Icefyre doesn't have an Elderling, but he seemed far too grumpy/wild to want one...plus I really didn't like him, so I hope the Fool gets a dragon worthy of him, if he's going to get one!

Wastrel wrote: "Not to be pedantic, but if that's as late as the carving, shouldn't he be Lord Golden? That is... golden? Having passed through 'amber' and out the other side on his way to black? He's only pale wh..."

There is a faint the golden tint to his skin,and his hair, eyes and clothes are very reminiscent of Lord Golden...granted, he is pale but I would argue that even if Scarletine had depicted him bright green with pink polka dots, he would still look more like the Fool than any version I've seen on official covers.


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Scarletine | 469 comments Wastrel wrote: "Not to be pedantic, but if that's as late as the carving, shouldn't he be Lord Golden? That is... golden? Having passed through 'amber' and out the other side on his way to black? He's only pale wh..."

Not to be pedantic...really! It's an Artist interpretation Dahling! Did the women Picasso painted really have blue skin and crazy eyes? Lord Golden was in a sunny room! :-)


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Wastrel | 270 comments Scarletine wrote: "Wastrel wrote: "Not to be pedantic, but if that's as late as the carving, shouldn't he be Lord Golden? That is... golden? Having passed through 'amber' and out the other side on his way to black? H..."

Hey now, a moment ago you were talking about other artists not conforming to the descriptions (not androgynous enough (btw, I still think yours is quite manly - it's the chin, I think. To be fair, maybe he's just a Hapsburg)). So I thought it was fair to point out that you were deviating too - by the time he makes the carving, he's described as "brown as an apple-seed", which is very brown. [Plus, depicting dark-skinned characters as pale-skinned can be an emotive issue for some people. Not that I mind particularly]


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Scarletine | 469 comments Wastrel wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "Wastrel wrote: "Not to be pedantic, but if that's as late as the carving, shouldn't he be Lord Golden? That is... golden? Having passed through 'amber' and out the other side on ..."

Well, i guess that EVERY single depiction of this character is wrong then. Even the ones Hobbs publishers have commissioned.
Maybe you should create an accurate image Wastrel.
RH approved of my depiction, so thats all that matters to me!


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Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 550 comments Scarletine wrote: "Ok Ladies and Gents. This is my Portrait of Fool/Beloved/Lord Golden. "

This is so good! Really captures the essence of Lord Golden with a hint of Fool and Amber in the countenance. What's that picture of kings (?) in the background?

Wastrel wrote: "Not to be pedantic, but if that's as late as the carving, shouldn't he be Lord Golden? That is... golden? Having passed through 'amber' and out the other side on his way to black? ..."

Common Wastrel, live a little! Enjoy a great picture for the sake of enjoying it. The black carving is iconic of the Fool so it fits in the picture (screw the timeline and all). Much like covers of Fitz are often depicted with an axe... even though the older Fitz hasn't used an axe for some 20 years?


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Scarletine | 469 comments Alfred wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "Ok Ladies and Gents. This is my Portrait of Fool/Beloved/Lord Golden. "

This is so good! Really captures the essence of Lord Golden with a hint of Fool and Amber in the counten..."


Thank you for your kind comments Alfred. ;-)


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Scarletine | 469 comments Alfred wrote: "This is a complete digression from book discussion - I've noticed for a few weeks now that the link for this FA full spoiler discussion has disappeared from the list of FA related topics in the dis..."

Whenever someone comments I get a notification. I just click on it. I wouldn't know where to find the thread otherwise!


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I usually go to:
Explore
Groups
Search for Robin Hobb and click the first one.

It's usually there... :-)


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I usually go to:
Explore
Groups
Search for Robin Hobb and click the first one.

It's usually there... :-)


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Recently finished RWC for the first time, and loved it. If we do see more of Paragon and the Liveship characters, it occured to me that Phron and 'Boy-o' will be men, and Althea and Brashen will be elderly if not gone. :( It would be great to see Althea and Brashen's son grown up. Phron, of course, will be an Elderling, and Malta and Reyn won't have aged much.

And more dragons! Tintaglia's eggs will have hatched by now, I think.

This might have been obvious, but it only just occured to me and now I'm sad...


message 266: by Emma (last edited Apr 29, 2015 01:26AM) (new)

Emma  | 92 comments Stella wrote: "And more dragons! Tintaglia's eggs will have hatched by now, I think."


There wont be more dragons...they have to spend about hundred years as serpents growing to the proper size before they can cocoon themselves I think. It's only been about twenty years, right?


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Emma Jane wrote: "Stella wrote: "And more dragons! Tintaglia's eggs will have hatched by now, I think."


There wont be more dragons...they have to spend about hundred years as serpents growing to the proper size be..."


My bad! I thought the only reason Maulkin's tangle & co spent so long in the sea was because of the disaster that stopped them reaching the cocooning grounds. I think you're right though.

So maybe more serpents? They wouldn't really be in the story though, they'd be minding their own business doing serpent things. Or do they take really long to hatch from their eggs too?

I must have missed quite a few details from Liveships, I should probably re read. :)


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Scarletine | 469 comments I just loved the descriptions of Kelsingra, and it baffles me that Fitz never visited in 20 years. When i re read Tawny Man, in the first book Fitz suggested that he and Nighteyes should visit, but it never happened. :-( I still don't get why Fitz never visited. Maybe he will in Fools Quest!
Stella, now you know the power of Dragon's blood, what do you think to the vial on the cover of Fools Quest? Could you see Fool becoming Elderling as a way of healing?


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Scarletine wrote:Stella, now you know the power of Dragon's blood, what do you think to the vial on the cover of Fools Quest? Could you see Fool becoming Elderling as a way of healing?

I want the Fool to be healed, by any means! But all the dragons have keepers except for IceFyre who I didn't like very much, and Baliper, who seemed not quite the right dragon for the Fool. I know dragons can have multiple keepers, but it doesn't seem right for the Fool to share a dragon.
I can't help but wish that Mercor made the Fool his Elderling. His personality seemes right and the Fool with golden scales... :)
But, I love Sylve and Mercor's relationship too. Conflicted.

Do you think there's a way to heal the Fool with Silver but not bond him to a dragon? Probably not, and that would make the vial on the cover pointless. Oh well.

Honestly, I've no clue what will happen in regards to this. :)

I just loved the descriptions of Kelsingra, and it baffles me that Fitz never visited in 20 years. When i re read Tawny Man, in the first book Fitz suggested that he and Nighteyes should visit, but it never happened. :-(

Hmmm... Did RH do that on purpose, leaving that plot point dangling? She does tend to add little things like that! :)


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Emma  | 92 comments Stella wrote: "Emma Jane wrote: "Stella wrote: "And more dragons! Tintaglia's eggs will have hatched by now, I think."


There wont be more dragons...they have to spend about hundred years as serpents growing to ..."


That's true, they were stuck in the sea for thousands of years because of the shift in the landscape, but either way I'm fairly sure it takes them a long time to grow big enough to transform...I'm remembering this from the last time I read, so I could be wrong. I hope I am so the Fool can have a good dragon!

If that's the way the story is going...I like to think it is but probably Robin will do something cruel, like have the servants bond with dragons...so the only way the fool can destroy the servants is to undo his life's work.

Oh my god, I really hope not.


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Scarletine | 469 comments Stella wrote:Hmmm... Did RH do that on purpose, leaving that plot point dangling? She does tend to add little things like that! :) "

I don't think she intended another Fitz/fool trilogy after tawny man. There was a ten year gap, so a dangling plot point...I don't think so...Missed opportunity...yes!
It would be poetic if Ice Fyre claimed Fool as his elderling- after all Fool went through to free him from Aslevjal. And just imagine all of the memories in his blood going back centuries- Fool would be super powerful and maybe know what true fate befell the elderling race. Bur that goes against my wish that he settles down with fitz and bee,as he would have to tend his dragon.


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Scarletine wrote: "Stella wrote:Hmmm... Did RH do that on purpose, leaving that plot point dangling? She does tend to add little things like that! :) "

I don't think she intended another Fitz/fool trilogy after tawn..."

I didn't really like IceFyre, he seemed so arrogant and superior. I hope the Fool doesn't bond with him. And I'm really protective of Fitz and the Fool's friendship: I think IceFyre would kind of get in between them a bit. :(

I wonder if there's any problems with Whites becoming Elderlings.


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Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 550 comments Scarletine wrote: "I just loved the descriptions of Kelsingra, and it baffles me that Fitz never visited in 20 years. When i re read Tawny Man, in the first book Fitz suggested that he and Nighteyes should visit, but..."

I think that's precisely why Fitz did not visit Kelsingra - because he had Nighteyes with him. I seem to recall Nighteyes was wary of traveling through the Skill pillar (and on boats over water), so their wandering was all on foot. So I can see Fitz not wanting to visit Kelsingra out of consideration for Nighteyes if the only way (Fitz knew) to get there was by skill pillar.

During their few years of wandering after the Red Ship battles, I had the impression that Fitz avoided anything related to magic, skill pillars, events and places related Verity etc because it was emotionally traumatizing for Fitz to re-visit these memories and places (like Kelsingra).


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Scarletine | 469 comments Alfred wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "I just loved the descriptions of Kelsingra, and it baffles me that Fitz never visited in 20 years. When i re read Tawny Man, in the first book Fitz suggested that he and Nighteye..."

But then nighteyes was gone, and dragons were returned to the world and he found the elderling city in the ice. His fascination for all things magical and elderling was renewed. But then fool left him and boring old Molly was back in his pants. 20 years passed like a tumbleweed in a one horse town! What a waste of time that was! :-)


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In the years between Fool's Fate and Fool's Assassin, wasn't Fitz avoiding Skill pillars entirely? Because of what happened with the Aslevjal->Buck pillars, he didn't use them at all until Chade was sick in Fool's Assassin.

So I think that would explain why he didn't visit Kelsingra: Firstly, as Alfred said, it was because of Nighteyes, and then he was too busy with the events of Tawny Man, and then he just avoided Skill pillars.


message 276: by Alfred (last edited May 02, 2015 07:26PM) (new)

Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 550 comments Scarletine wrote: "..But then nighteyes was gone, and dragons were returned to the world ....But then fool left him and boring old Molly was back in his pants. ..."

Ah yes. Sorry I was thinking waaaaay back to Fitz and Nighteyes immediately after Assassin's Quest. Fast forward to end of Fool's Fate, I think Fitz chose to move on with his life - which at that point in time - was directing him towards Molly, Nettle, family, a "normal" life (note: the whole Molly arc was so off tangent but that's a whole other discussion...). Plus he was lost in the skill pillar so developed a fear of travelling thru it.

Fitz probably regarded Kelsingra, Fool, Nighteyes, Verity, Shrewd etc.. as part of his old life that was long gone so he never pursued visiting Kelsingra again. Besides, Molly would never go with him! Nor want him to go adventuring in Kelsingra!


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Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 550 comments Scarletine wrote: "..I don't think she intended another Fitz/fool trilogy after tawn..."

Actually Robin Hobb did intend to write Fitz/Fool again after Tawny Man. She wrote a really long blog in her website some years back about that. If I can find the link or if you know where it is, do post.

Recall Fitz's epilogue about the "minstrel's pause" and how he hoped to reunite with the Fool again. That really explained a lot of things to me as a reader on why she ended Fool's Fate with F/F's relationship unresolved since she meant to continue writing. However, she received so much criticism and negativity for the book's ending, that she just shelved the project for 10 years.

Stella wrote: "..IceFyre, he seemed so arrogant and superior. I hope the Fool doesn't bond with him"

I hope the Fool doesn't bond with any ole' dragons! I just can't see Fool as an Elderling... he'll look just like... Sedric! (both beautiful with scales, male, androgynous, slender, blonde, in love with the macho warrior/hunter type..Hmm..)

Didn't one of the dragons (I forgot which one) saw the Fool and accepted the Fool as an ally. The dragon had good memories of Whites remembered from many pasts. That makes me think that Whites do not become Elderlings but stay White so that would rule out Fool becoming an Elderling. But hey, surprise me!


message 278: by [deleted user] (last edited May 02, 2015 09:48PM) (new)

Alfred wrote: I hope the Fool doesn't bond with any ole' dragons! I just can't see Fool as an Elderling... he'll look just like... Sedric! (both beautiful with scales, male, androgynous, slender, blonde, in love with the macho warrior/hunter type..Hmm..)"

If there's any other way for the Fool to be healed, I'm all for it.

I'm interested to see how Sedric and the Fool would get on, if they do indeed meet in FQ. Although they're quite similar physically, as Alfred pointed out, (both beautiful with scales, male, androgynous, slender, blonde, in love with the macho warrior/hunter type..Hmm..) I think they have very different personalities. I wonder who are the 'delegates from Jamaillia, Bingtown, and Kelsingra'. Do you think there might be dragons there too?


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Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 550 comments Stella wrote: "I'm interested to see how Sedric and the Fool would get on, if they do indeed meet in FQ.."

Personally, I would like to read Fitz meets Sedric & Carson. It'll be an eye-opener for Fitz to see how two men can have a loving and open relationship without any stigma or reservations. (I am not convinced Fool is male, but I'll let it rest). While I firmly believe that Fitz will NEVER change his sexual preference, I think hanging out with a same-sex couple will help him be less phobic to the idea of homosexuality.

Stella wrote: "I wonder who are the 'delegates from Jamaillia, Bingtown, and Kelsingra'. Do you think there might be dragons there too?"

Me too! One of your earlier post reminded me that the older characters from LST - Althea, Brashen, Jek - folks who would know Amber aka Fool are much older (20+ years since LST?) and the delegates would probably be their children. Oh wait, Malta and Reyn would know Amber/Fool, since they would not have aged much. Wonder if the silver finger prints on Malta's neck would somehow play a role in bringing the silver back to Fool.. and somehow imprinted back to Fitz?


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I was rereading some of my favourite parts of Fool's Fate and came across a little thing that I don't think was a coincidence.
When Fitz wakes Icefyre from his death dreams, Chade says:

'Oh, Fitz, what have you done? What have you done?'

And then later, when Fitz wakes the Fool from death, the Fool says:

'Oh, Beloved, what have you done? What have you done?'

My first thought was a link between Icefyre and the Fool, bringing me straight to possible Elderling healing in Fool's Quest. I think I made too much of a jump there. :-) Second thought was just another Chade/Fool contrast. I loved that tension in Fool's Fate, Fitz not knowing what to do and the Fool and Chade badgering him all the time. It was brilliant. I hope it continues in the next books, but maybe Fitz will stop worrying who to follow and trust himself. :-)


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Just realised that there's less than 100 days until August 13th and Fool's Quest's release! 96 days of waiting to go! XD


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Scarletine | 469 comments Stella wrote: "Just realised that there's less than 100 days until August 13th and Fool's Quest's release! 96 days of waiting to go! XD"

YAY! and to celebrate, have a look at this. Best cover yet! Beautiful beloved! I don't read Japanese but I would buy the whole set just for the artwork! Anyone know where I could get them?

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Scarletine wrote: "Stella wrote: "Just realised that there's less than 100 days until August 13th and Fool's Quest's release! 96 days of waiting to go! XD"

YAY! and to celebrate, have a look at this. Best cover yet!..."


Wow! He looks so adrogynous, it's very well done. The author must have read the books. And the colours are amazing. XD Not sure if I agree with the clothing but it still is remarkably good.


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Scarletine | 469 comments Stella wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "Stella wrote: "Just realised that there's less than 100 days until August 13th and Fool's Quest's release! 96 days of waiting to go! XD"

YAY! and to celebrate, have a look at th..."


love that he's showing a bit of chest! :-)I got it from one of RH's own blogs. I shared the image on Twitter and RH said he had never seen it and shared it. The fans seem to agree that its the best (in a long line of illustrations where the artists havent read the books!) I've sourced a website if anyone wants to buy the japanese version. I would just for the covers! (when my bank account allows!) ;-p


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Alfred wrote: 92 days...
Glad I'm not the only one counting down! 91 days now! XD


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Just came across someone's idea: what if the continous crows on the covers are a reference to the Piebald Prince? He had a Wit-crow, I think. I'd love the Farseers to realise that they were descended from the Piebald Prince, and that the Wit does run through the Fraseer line. Chade's reaction would be priceless.

Would another Farseer Wit-crow mean anything? Have a similarity with the Piebald Prince perhaps?


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Scarletine | 469 comments Stella wrote: "Just came across someone's idea: what if the continous crows on the covers are a reference to the Piebald Prince? He had a Wit-crow, I think. I'd love the Farseers to realise that they were descend..."

Do you think maybe Dutiful has a wit crow? We never did find out if he bonded again in FA, just that he had kids who were travelling to the Outlslands.


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Scarletine | 469 comments Alfred wrote: "Stella wrote: ".. if the continous crows on the covers are a reference to the Piebald Prince? He had a Wit-crow, I think. I'd love the Farseers to realise that they were descend..."

Interesting! ..."


I only managed half way through the pie bald prince, it was hard going! I may have to pick it up again!


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Wastrel | 270 comments Oh? What did you find difficult about it (I haven't read it yet)? Slow pace, or traumatic, or what?


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Scarletine | 469 comments Wastrel wrote: "Oh? What did you find difficult about it (I haven't read it yet)? Slow pace, or traumatic, or what?"

It unsettled me, and I was more in the mood for Pratchett, to be honest. The Piebald Prince is not a pretty tale at all...especially as we all know his fate.(hung, drawn,quartered and burned)
Poor bugger!


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I'm sorry I spoiled it for all of you, then. I thought you'd read it. But as Scarletine said, it's a pretty tragic story. It would have been horrifying if not for the final pages.


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Scarletine | 469 comments Stella wrote: "I'm sorry I spoiled it for all of you, then. I thought you'd read it. But as Scarletine said, it's a pretty tragic story. It would have been horrifying if not for the final pages."

Damn it...now i have to read the final pages! :-p


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Scarletine | 469 comments The plot thicken's! The Dutch title of Fools Quest is 'De Moordenaar van de nar' which translates as 'Killer Jester' Oh fool!


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Oh no!
Although we knew he wanted revenge for what the Servants did, this still scares me. The Fool hated violence... :( Thinking of Fitz's reaction to a violent Fool makes me sad... No, wait, Fitzy's going to be vengeance mad too. I have a feeling there might be an awful lot of face palm moments in this book.

75 days to go! (I think) Not so long now... :)


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Oh no!
Although we knew he wanted revenge for what the Servants did, this still scares me. The Fool hated violence... :( Thinking of Fitz's reaction to a violent Fool makes me sad... No, wait, Fitzy's going to be vengeance mad too. I have a feeling there might be an awful lot of face palm moments in this book.

75 days to go! (I think) Not so long now... :)


message 296: by Scarletine (last edited Jun 01, 2015 03:18AM) (new)

Scarletine | 469 comments Alfred wrote: "Stella wrote: "75 days to go!"

73 days...Will someone please start a new thread in the Fool's Quest discussion forum when book is out? Call it Spoilers for all Realm of Elderling or something lik..."


Alfred. Have you read The lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch. Another great series...3 books out so far(there will be 7!) It seems that French and Dutch readers already have the book. So not fair that we have to wait another couple of months. I started a new thread for FQ.
www.goodreads.com/topic/show/12047639...


message 297: by Wastrel (last edited Jun 01, 2015 01:15PM) (new)

Wastrel | 270 comments Summer seems like such an inappropriate time for a new Robin Hobb novel to come out. I know that this will probably be set in warmer climes, but instinctively I think of her books as things to read on long winter nights...


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Alfred Haplo (alfredhaplo) | 550 comments Wastrel wrote: "..will probably be set in warmer climbs, but instinctively I think of her books as things to read on long winter nights..."

With you on this Wastrel. Mentally, I have to put my melancholy into high gear (best achieved in winter) to get into Fitz's head.

Scarletine wrote: "..Alfred. Have you read The lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch. ..started a new thread for FQ.."

Thanks re book! Will KIV. Thanks for link, will officially jump over when book 2 comes out.

Any thoughts on this? On my re-read, I had a thought about the two wolves that Bee dreamt of. Bee said she dreamt it only once and it was her best dream. My original thought pointed to Fitz and Nighteyes but I have since revised it to Fitz and Fool.

In another prophecy, which spoke about a wolf dressed in black and silver who was covered in sores, and Fitz was in him, around him.. etc and at its core, it was molten gold (can't remember exact words). I think this clearly refers to the Fool, but the use of "wolf" to describe him was intriguing. Hence my tie in to Bee's dream about the two wolves earlier.

72 days.


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Scarletine | 469 comments Alfred wrote: "Wastrel wrote: "..will probably be set in warmer climbs, but instinctively I think of her books as things to read on long winter nights..."

With you on this Wastrel. Mentally, I have to put my me..."


Jump over to the other thread now!! The book is already out for Canada, France and Holland, Maybe other Countries too. Us English readers have to wait another 72 bloomin days. Did you see that the French/Dutch translations for book 2 are 'assassins daughter' and 'Killer Jester'. Talk about confusing! Fool must get his eyesight back, a blind trainee assassin would be useless! I'm not going to look too deeply into the prophecies until i read book 2, Hobb is a master at leading us down the garden path!


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Wastrel | 270 comments If others are already reading and discussing it, I'd better stay out of the other thread. Neither Canadian nor an ARC-wielder!


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