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Book 14 - Fool's Assassin
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Fool's Assassin > Part 7: Chapter 31 - Epilogue & Overall Discussion (Full Spoilers)
Emma Jane wrote: "Is that an eye on the end of that ribbon? Seems like quite a strong hint towards the "bonding with a bird to keep an eye on Bee" theory. And vials of dragon blood?Oh please, please tell me they ..."
Sure looks like an eye! Definitely dragon blood.. I too hope that means the duo goes to Kelsingra! Part of converging main characters at one place..? Fool with scales as an Elderling would be interesting... Sedric's character has a shade of Fool, don't you think?
Not sure about the Fitz-bird bonding... Am thinking it's more like Bee-bird bonding, and she sends the bird with the ribbon (hers) to deliver a message to Fitz?
What's also interesting about the Jackie Morris blog is an earlier sketch which showed a circlet or bracelet with a charging buck engraved on it. That did not make it to the final cover, but may be significant since she based the sketches on a paragraph Robin sent her.
Emma Jane wrote: "And vials of dragon blood?
Oh please, please tell me they ..."
Apparently I need to go and read the Rain Wild Chronicles. Liveships, which I did read , didn't link up with Tawny Man too much, but its sounding like this trilogy is going to be better if I've read the Rain Wilds, if dragon blood is important enough to be on the cover...
Oh please, please tell me they ..."
Apparently I need to go and read the Rain Wild Chronicles. Liveships, which I did read , didn't link up with Tawny Man too much, but its sounding like this trilogy is going to be better if I've read the Rain Wilds, if dragon blood is important enough to be on the cover...
And a unlikely idea: if there is a circlet with a charging buck on it, I'm thinking new Prince/Princess. If a charging buck is Fitz's symbol, that might mean its Bee's too.
Princess Bee Farseer?
I hope not. I'm still wishing for Fitz and the Fool to destroy the Servants and free Bee and live happily in the Fool's homeland... *sigh*. Never going to happen, is it? Oh well, I can dream...
Princess Bee Farseer?
I hope not. I'm still wishing for Fitz and the Fool to destroy the Servants and free Bee and live happily in the Fool's homeland... *sigh*. Never going to happen, is it? Oh well, I can dream...
Alfred wrote: What's also interesting about the Jackie Morris blog is an earlier sketch which showed a circlet or bracelet with a charging buck engraved on it. That did not make it to the final cover, but may be significant since she based the sketches on a paragraph Robin sent her."Looks like it could also be a ring. Interesting. Nothing like that exists yet that we know of, which could mean it's going to be made, which would mean Fitz's old sigil of the charging buck is somehow going to become significant again.
The Farseers didn't recognise Bee as heir to the throne because Kettricken believed she was deformed and that she would die, and it wasn't done before she was kidnapped, so I'm hoping she wont be a princess. It might have to do with Nettle though. Maybe the princes and Elliania die on a stormy crossing to the outlands, which did seem to be foreshadowed a bit, and it has something to do with the line of succession.
I'm hoping though that it's more about Fitz re-assuming some of his old identity. I wouldn't be sorry to see him stop being Holder Badgerlock, that's for sure.
As for Fitz bonding with a bird, I can't see that happening either, but maybe Per does and he and Bee use it to communicate. Or it is actually Bee who bonds with a crow.
Or the eye thing is a reference to the Fool's blindness, or his ability to some how use Bee to see the future. Maybe Bee and the Fool begin to communicate via the crow, using Fitz as a sort of wit-translator.
Ugh, I just wanna read it already!
Just pointing out: how many fantasy series are there where fans earnestly wish "oh I do hope the ostracised orphan girl is able to escape becoming a princess!"? - it's a credit to how thoroughly Hobb is able to convey the problematic realities of her setting - or really, all mediaeval fantasy settings - that she's been able to completely reverse our values and turn a traditional fairy tale happy ending into something to be feared...
Vials of dragon blood! Yes Please! That would just be perfect for completing Fools healing. I'd be happy to see Fool as an elderling. It feels like its his destiny, don't you think? He's been obsessed with the elderlings and their magic for ages. I really want them to go to kelsingra. Everyone needs to read the Rainwilds before this book comes out! Hop to it! :-D
Remember the vision the Fool had in the first trilogy when they were in the stone garden looking for Verity? When he saw the ancient White wearing the Rooster crown? They were in the market plaza in Kelsingra, and the White was saying goodbye to Realder, her catalyst, who she was in love with, and he had carved himself into a stone dragon and had promised to fly her around on his back.How cool would it be if history is a circle repeating itself like the Fool believes, and they're on a path to a similar event happening again, only this time it will be between him and Fitz, with both of them in Kelsingra and Fitz carving his wolf?
Emma Jane wrote: "Remember the vision the Fool had in the first trilogy when they were in the stone garden looking for Verity? When he saw the ancient White wearing the Rooster crown? They were in the market plaza i..."The pillar plaza wasn't in kelsingra! The vision Fool had was based in the town that the pillar plaza was in, wasn't it?
Scarletine wrote: "Emma Jane wrote: "Remember the vision the Fool had in the first trilogy when they were in the stone garden looking for Verity? When he saw the ancient White wearing the Rooster crown? They were in ..."I was sure it was Kelsingra, but maybe I'm wrong ^^
Emma Jane wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "Emma Jane wrote: "Remember the vision the Fool had in the first trilogy when they were in the stone garden looking for Verity? When he saw the ancient White wearing the Rooster c..."Kelsingra was the empty city fitz ended up in, and he went to the tower room and saw the elderling map table and that verity had been there.
Oh you know what confused me, I had the image of realder's dragon arriving by plunging into the river at the bottom of Kelsingra. Fitz sees that in a vision while he's walking the streets, but it's a different dragon. Too many visions, too many dragons! xD You're right though, I got the place confused.
Emma Jane wrote: "Oh you know what confused me, I had the image of realder's dragon arriving by plunging into the river at the bottom of Kelsingra. Fitz sees that in a vision while he's walking the streets, but it's..."Ah damn those visions! Best keep away from the Apricot Brandy! :-P
Emma Jane wrote: "But it's like summer in a glass! xD"And did you know that historically it's an aphrodisiac...thats why Fool always drank it with Fitz!
Pretty sure the Fool would be horrified by the idea of drugging someone into sex.
Emma Jane wrote: "Remember the vision the Fool had in the first trilogy when they were in the stone garden looking for Verity? When he saw the ancient White wearing the Rooster crown? They were in the market plaza i..."
In Bee's dream, Fitz is saying goodbye to her, not the Fool. But she would still be a White Prophet saying goodbye to a Catalyst she loved, even if he wasn't her Catalyst, it still would be a repeat of history, I think. But I guess the propecy could be interpreted differently.
An idea: what if, if Bee has the Skill, Fitz is saying goodbye through a Skill dream or something, and then rescues her from the servants?
In Bee's dream, Fitz is saying goodbye to her, not the Fool. But she would still be a White Prophet saying goodbye to a Catalyst she loved, even if he wasn't her Catalyst, it still would be a repeat of history, I think. But I guess the propecy could be interpreted differently.
An idea: what if, if Bee has the Skill, Fitz is saying goodbye through a Skill dream or something, and then rescues her from the servants?
Emma Jane wrote: "Remember the vision the Fool had in the first trilogy when they were in the stone garden looking for Verity? When he saw the ancient White wearing the Rooster crown? They were in the market plaza in Kelsingra..."I think you are on to something here! I think Fool and Fitz have been prophet and catalyst in not just this life but in many past lives. Fool has alluded to this a couple times over last few books (although he may not know it himself). Likewise when Jinna spoke about Fitz's one true love who wends in and out of his life... I think Fool has been Fitz 's lover (as in each other's beloved) in not just this life but in many shared past lives.
I started thinking about this in Fool's Fate when Fool brought Fitz to Girl on a Dragon (GOAD) and told Fitz the tragic story of the girl White Prophet (who wore the rooster crown) and her catalyst/lover (Realder). Realder gave his life into the dragon, which later failed to fly. As Fool described it, Realder said farewell to his beloved (aka girl White Prophet) before entering the dragon.
Robin's use of the word "beloved" to describe the girl White Prophet by her Catalyst/Realder, cannot be coincidental.
Likewise, I think Fool superimposing into the girl White Prophet while standing on the skill pillar in Assassin's Quest has to refer to Fool's past life as girl White Prophet.
When describing this story, Fool said he has an echo of this like a dream. And on hearing this story of girl White Prophet and Realder, Fitz said he seems to recall memories he cannot possibly have.
It is also not coincidental for Fitz to mysteriously find the five feathers on the Other's beach ... He was meant to have them, I think, as Realder probably had them in the past. Fool-Fitz are destined to find each other again in this life as girl White Prophet-Realder did in their lifetime.
I think that if Robin were to ever call Fool a woman and write an open lovers relationship for Fitz-Fool, it would be in the context of girl White Prophet and Realder/catalyst. Imagine Fool and Fitz travel to Kelsingra in book 2 or 3, and they find memory stones that belonged to girl White Prophet and Realder. Fool and Fitz (ala Thymarra and Rapskal) go "back in time" to re-live the lives of girl White Prophet and her catalyst Realder. Those two were clearly lovers and in love.
I also think Fitz and Fool will change history somehow so that GOAD will fly and Realder's sacrifice will not be in vain. Somehow that also changes the Wheel of time going forward from that point. In Fools Fate, Fool asked Fitz to think about how things could have been different if GOAD were not mired. I think the story will circle back to this.
Another wild thought - what if girl White Prophet is the same White who went all over the world to find several worthy men and had children with them thus spawning generations of different progenies in different cultures - among whom one white prophet (the Fool) was born. I think Fool told Fitz that was how he came to be born among human parents.
Emma Jane - I think the city Fitz visited via skill pillar (Assassin's Quest) was Kelsingra!!
Recall in RWC (forgot which book), Alise was exploring Kelsingra and went up this official looking building. At the top, she was angry to find someone had broken one of the large windows that overlooked the city and I believe she saw dusty hand print on the wall. When Fitz skill-pillared there, he broke the window at the tower and either he or Verity had left a handprint.
Also one of the RWC characters noticed the two stone lions (?) at the entrance of this official looking building. Same stone lions (some animal can't remember) that Fitz observed when he was there.
Argh! Hating this suspense for the next book!
Wastrel wrote: "Pretty sure the Fool would be horrified by the idea of drugging someone into sex."Thats a bit of a violent jump Wastrel. The use of aphrodisiacs is a more subtle seduction than that, hell even eating Oysters was deemed an aprodisiac. I think the meaning and the sharing is more important to to a man like fool!
Alfred wrote: "I think Fool told Fitz that was how he came to be born among human parents."Fool explained his parentage as being born to a woman and having two fathers who were 'brothers'...confusing or what!
Scarletine wrote: "Wastrel wrote: "Pretty sure the Fool would be horrified by the idea of drugging someone into sex."Thats a bit of a violent jump Wastrel. The use of aphrodisiacs is a more subtle seduction than th..."
How are aphrodisiacs (drugs to increase libido and/or decrease inhibition) a 'subtle seduction'? If they worked, they would be no different from plying someone with alcohol. 'Aphrodisiac' is just a mediaeval term for 'date rape drug'. [At least, assuming that the effect is only intended by one party, not by both; if a couple enjoy taking rohypnol or whatever, that's up to them]
I just find it very creepy to imagine the Fool giving his 'friend' the drink while secretly thinking "yes! If I can get him to drink this, his ability to continue withholding consent may be impaired!" - I'd rather imagine it was just an innocent gift to a friend, something he thought he'd enjoy, rather than an attempt to manipulate and take advantage of him.
I agree- if the Fool wished something like that to happen, he would want Fitz to be fully aware of what he was doing. It reminds me of that time in the Elderling tent on Aslevjal when Fitz had overdosed in elfbark- he asked the Fool to press his fingers onto his wrist to see if his Skill existed, and the Fool refused because Fitz was 'no better than drunk' I think was the quote. It's the same situation.
Wastrel wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "Wastrel wrote: "Pretty sure the Fool would be horrified by the idea of drugging someone into sex."Thats a bit of a violent jump Wastrel. The use of aphrodisiacs is a more subtl..."
You appear to choose the most severe examples of Aphrodisiacs! Two consenting adults can use them in the game of seduction. It doesn't always have to be malicious! Apricot Brandy has been long considered an aphrodisiac drink. In a Midsummer Night's Dream the fairies are told of the efficacy of apricot and even Shakespeare seems to have been drawing on an established folk tradition.
Why else would Robin Hobb have chosen that specific drink for them to share if it was not a symbol of love and Fools feelings toward Fitz? It would have been well known that Apricot Brandy was considered an Aphrodisiac, so in sharing, maybe in the Fools mind he would see it as the tiniest reciprocation from Fitz. Fitz holds the times they shared sitting by the hearth drinking Apricot Brandy as some of his most precious moments with Fool!
Yes, consenting adults can take drugs to reduce their sexual inhibitions. But it's NOT two consenting adults, it's one consenting adult and one non-consenting adult, which is why 'seducing' the non-consenting adult through drugs would be rape.There's no reason to assume Fitz (or the Fool) is aware of european folklore. Neither of them ever mentions the myths about apricots encouraging sex; the connotations they mention are about light and summer - apricots being an exotic, tropical fruit - not about sex. And given just how uncomfortable Fitz is around the idea of gay sex, if he had any suspicion that the Fool was dosing him in order to sodomise him, I think we can be pretty sure that Fitz would be worrying about it explicitly! There's never any suggestion that Fitz would welcome that sort of thing, and everything the Fool says shows that he would hate even the suggestion of the idea (as Stella points out).
FYI, in europe apricots were also associated with easy childbirth, relieving constipation, and fighting cancer.
Anyway, it's not about whether it's 'malicious'. It's about whether it's consenting. Just because you really love someone and aren't at all malicious doesn't mean it isn't rape!
I appreciate that some readers are interested in the books primarily for the gay sex. But I think that in this case that interpretation requires completely reversing the personalities of both Fitz (paranoid, uncomfortable with physicality, instinctively homophobic) and the Fool (has issues around consent and free will).
Whoa. Am going to take the apricot brandy at face value - which is a rare expensive drink that Fool likes because it tastes good and it conjures memories of hot summer days at the orchard with his sister whom he was very close to. As Wastrel pointed out, I think the Fool just likes sharing nice things with Fitz. Much like asking Fitz to ride Malta in the spirit of shared enjoyment.
Also, maybe Robin has an apricot orchard and she enjoys brandy so she writes about it! Much like she writes about cats and chickens and roses (Fool has rose scented handkerchiefs, rose lidded tea pot, rose scented bath oils etc..).
I agree that Fool won't force or intentionally influence Fitz. That's just contradictory to everything he stands for. I also don't know if the reference to gay sex is relevant since the Fool is not definitively a male.
Consider this - the Fool also uses perfumes & fragrant scented oils - couldn't this be misconstrued as Fool using pheromones to trigger sexual interest in Fitz? We could go on and on and on...
Even if it as considered an aphrodisiac, it doesn't matter. So is chocolate and people share it all the time. I agree with Alfred, its just shared enjoyment, it doesn't seem to have any sexual connotation. I definitely dont think that the Fool was trying to influence Fitz's behaviour. An aphrodisiac wouldn't cut it, even if he did. They effect they have is very, very mild. If Hobb wanted to hint at anything with the apricot brandy, maybe it was just that the companionship between them was a fulfillment and replaced the need for a sexual relationship. That whole chapter did stress the warmth of companionship quite a lot.
Alfred wrote: "...since the Fool is not definitively a male. "
Wastrel, again you misconstrue my comments and go to extremes when replying! I never once said that Fool intended to get Fitz drunk and rape him. I was talking about the symbolism of that specific drink being chosen and shared between Fitz and Fool, and it's historical context. That it could be seen as a tolken of love shared, not a means for drug rape!!
Yes, Wastrel there is no reason to assume that Fitz or Fool are aware of European folklaw, but Robin Hobb is and has used medieval history as the inspiration for alot of her books. Symbolism- from the Buck and other motifs, to the language of flowers, to drugs and drink. All of this well known symbolism has been scattered through the stories. She is a devil for the detail and nothing she chooses is without though!
Alfred, did you see on Robin's FB page , when she revealled that awful cover she said 'he', so does she think he's male?
RH uses male pronouns as neutral ones; a few weeks back she was talking about why she never uses they to refer to a single person. So RH calling the Fool a he doesn't really mean anything.
Scarletine wrote: "Alfred, did you see on Robin's FB page , when she revealled that awful cover she said 'he', so does she think he's male?"Yes I saw it. What other pronoun can Robin use? If Robin said "she", that would send shock waves of OMG's across the nation. If she said "it", that would be bizarre.
It might be a Freudian slip but I think Robin is too crafty for that. Or, it could be a red herring where Robin is just reinforcing readers' beliefs that Fool is male before she drops the bombshell later.
At this point, I am at peace with whatever her Hobbness decides the gender is. Sure I like to think the Fool is ultimately female, otherwise the innuendos are just pointless.
I think she started thinking about Fool as female in Farseer trilogy and "tested" that with Amber in Liveship. I think she continued that premise in Tawny Man trilogy hence the heavy innuendos. Somewhere towards end of Fool's Fate - she appeared to have changed a lot of things - the whole Molly/I am content speech, building up "King Fitz" and then dropping it etc.. And I think maybe in RWC, she again "tested" the homosexual relationships (not just one couple but two!). Whatever litmus test results she received from readers, publishers and her own feelings over 10 years of silence, she finally determined the gender of Fool. I think by the time Fool's Assassin was written, the Fool is male and will continue to be so to the end.
So the Farseer Trilogy rotated around the Skill, and the end was with Verity-As-Dragon and the Skill bond between Fitz and the Fool.
Liveships explained the wizardwood liveship magics, with the end being the Bolt/Vivacia thing. I can't remember the details.
Tawny Man was the Wit- Piebalds, and then Web, and how Burrich used the Wit against Kebel Rawbread, and Swift killed the stone dragon, with the end being the Wit-resurrection of the Fool.
I haven't finished RWC but I'm assuming it shows us more dragon magic, along with explaining silver.
So this trilogy. Obviously the magic of the Whites, with Bee. What do you think might be the end? It has to do with White magic, and Catalysts... so any ideas?
I've heard speculations that Bee will be the last White Prophet. Thoughts?
Liveships explained the wizardwood liveship magics, with the end being the Bolt/Vivacia thing. I can't remember the details.
Tawny Man was the Wit- Piebalds, and then Web, and how Burrich used the Wit against Kebel Rawbread, and Swift killed the stone dragon, with the end being the Wit-resurrection of the Fool.
I haven't finished RWC but I'm assuming it shows us more dragon magic, along with explaining silver.
So this trilogy. Obviously the magic of the Whites, with Bee. What do you think might be the end? It has to do with White magic, and Catalysts... so any ideas?
I've heard speculations that Bee will be the last White Prophet. Thoughts?
Stella wrote: "So the Farseer Trilogy rotated around the Skill, and the end was with Verity-As-Dragon and the Skill bond between Fitz and the Fool. Liveships explained the wizardwood liveship magics, with the e..."
I'm hoping it will be a culmination of everything- dragons,skill, wit, whites, and all lead back to the Elderlings in some way. I would like a HEA, they've all been through so much, and have more suffering to come. A HEA is wishful thinking though with Hobb's track record!
Agreed! HEA is what I want, but to be honest I'm dreading the end. I know it's going to make me into an emotional wreck, probably even more so than FF, and that was extremely painful. I can't wait... But I'm still scared. So conflicted!!!
Stella wrote: "Agreed! HEA is what I want, but to be honest I'm dreading the end. I know it's going to make me into an emotional wreck, probably even more so than FF, and that was extremely painful. I can't wait...."Well, i think we all need to arrange a week off for when book 2 comes out...with a supply of chocolate and tissues at hand. I guarentee I will be an emotional wreck whatever happens!
Scarletine wrote: "Stella wrote: "Agreed! HEA is what I want, but to be honest I'm dreading the end. I know it's going to make me into an emotional wreck, probably even more so than FF, and that was extremely painful..."That's not a bad idea...Considering what the last books did to me, I don't think I'm going to be able to cope with real life for a while...especially if the Fool dies. I'll have to shave my hair and eyebrows.
Emma Jane wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "Stella wrote: "Agreed! HEA is what I want, but to be honest I'm dreading the end. I know it's going to make me into an emotional wreck, probably even more so than FF, and that wa..."Ha! I'll just buy a bottle of apricot brandy and drink alone by the hearth staring at an empty chair! :-)
Personally I think I'll buy a lot of tea and chocolate, and stay up all night trying to stop reading, and rereading... Not that that will help, but still.
I'm trying to decide if I should limit myself to a chapter a day for the next book. Oh well. Whatever I choose it won't make any difference. There's no way I'll be able to stop reading after its in my hands!
I'm trying to decide if I should limit myself to a chapter a day for the next book. Oh well. Whatever I choose it won't make any difference. There's no way I'll be able to stop reading after its in my hands!
Stella wrote: "Personally I think I'll buy a lot of tea and chocolate, and stay up all night trying to stop reading, and rereading... Not that that will help, but still. I'm trying to decide if I should limit my..."
Why on earth would you limit yourself? How would you even do it? xD
I know I'm going to be exactly as I was for FA, as I described it in my review...meaning it's going to be several cramped hours of the most intense reading I've ever done.
Emma Jane wrote: "Stella wrote: "Personally I think I'll buy a lot of tea and chocolate, and stay up all night trying to stop reading, and rereading... Not that that will help, but still. I'm trying to decide if I ..."
I did get to a point ( a stabby point) where i had to put FA down and walk away because I was so horrified. Then I started ranting and my family thought i'd lost my marbles. At least we have this thread now, so the ranting can stay online!
Scarletine wrote: "Emma Jane wrote: "Stella wrote: "Personally I think I'll buy a lot of tea and chocolate, and stay up all night trying to stop reading, and rereading... Not that that will help, but still. I'm tryi..."
Yeah, I did that too. Only I ranted to myself because it was 4am and my family were asleep xD
Why on earth would you limit yourself? How would you even do it? xD
With much difficulty! :)
I tried to limit myself on Fool's Assassin, too. Worked for about...half a day. Then I gave in, because who wouldn't?!
With much difficulty! :)
I tried to limit myself on Fool's Assassin, too. Worked for about...half a day. Then I gave in, because who wouldn't?!
This isn't relevant, but I'd like to announce the successful conversion of my friend, who doesn't enjoy fantasy, into a RH crazy person. She's only up to Royal Assassin and she loves the books to pieces. XD
Mission accomplished! :-)
Mission accomplished! :-)
Emma Jane wrote: "....especially if the Fool dies..."So I'm on a very slow re-read of the trilogies, as I hoped that by the time I am done with FA (again), it'll be Aug! Then it will another round of heart stopping, nail biting, nerve wrecking, will-he or will-he-not-die reading pleasure.
Speaking of dying, I had a small "hmm" moment during the re-read. In GF, the Fool told Fitz that he will die in the efforts to bring dragons back to the world. He did not know how exactly he dies except that he will because he saw it. What if he saw wrong??
In the beginning of FF, while preparing for the journey to Aslevjal, Fool told Fitz "while I, who have always lived trying to define the future before I reach it, suddenly espy a place beyond which all is black. Blackness. That is what I dream of at night. And when I deliberately sit down and try reach forward, to see where my path might go, that is all I see. Blackness."
The Fool thought blackness meant his death, but maybe it meant blindness - that he would lose both physical eyesight and prophetic ability. And we know he did go blind in FA! So all that sacrifice to leave Fitz, removal of the skill-link etc.. to avoid adversely changing the future after he was brought back to life was for naught. Ultimately, his prophecy ("blackness") caught up with him.
(Just figured out what HEA means! Sadly not likely..)
Wow, I didn't see that! I think that you're right, Alfred. It would be just like Robin Hobb to do that. She does love double meanings, I guess.
But if he only sees blackness as his future, does that mean his prophetic sight and usual eyesight will never return to him? Now I'm getting worried again...
Only 115 days until August 13th!!!
But if he only sees blackness as his future, does that mean his prophetic sight and usual eyesight will never return to him? Now I'm getting worried again...
Only 115 days until August 13th!!!
Oh wow! I hadn't even thought about what the Fool saw about his death, because I just assumed that Fitz had forced fate into a new track because I was taking that as the reason why the Fool lost his ability to see the future. But I really think you might be onto something there. That sounds like it could be a perfect fit for the blackness he speaks of. And don't forget he's been blind for about twenty years now, so maybe the reference to "all he sees is blackness" is that he didn't look far enough ahead...it could also mean that he wont see for himself again, but I don't think his vision will be gone completely. He can still use Bee to see, somehow..I can't wait for the explanation of why that is. Probably something to do with 'blood is memory' and bee somehow being descended from him, maybe.
Anyway, death, blackness, unknowing, all could be tied to the servants fairly easily, with their map of the future.
Only 115 days, but 115 minutes would seem like forever, I'm so excited!
Now we have a French version of the fool. Not perfect but MUCH better than the gay porn star on the US version!>
Emma Jane wrote: "Oh wow! I hadn't even thought about what the Fool saw about his death, because I just assumed that Fitz had forced fate into a new track because I was taking that as the reason why the Fool lost hi..."I'm still thinking he drinks a vial of dragon blood. It's the only way he will be healed, regain his sight and turn into an elderling. Remembering how dragons reproduce and 'hatch' -everything comes from the silver in the black stone. The silver is even in dragon blood, and probably where skilled ones from years back originally got their magic. Its the only thing that could restore fool.
Alfred wrote: "What Fool said in FA about his healing, something like above all else, he needs to see again... I thought, sigh.. that's exactly what he won't get back.."He might, just in a twisted, unsatisfying way that leaves him permanently maimed. And it's so bad you wish he didn't get his sight back, because he was better off blind.
That cover is about a gajillion times better than the porn star one. It's actually the best Fool one, not that there are many to choose from But I still don't like it D:
I think the UK covers win, just because they don't feature any badly depicted characters. Just writing and objects. It's much easier to get those right, but impossible to get a character to look how every reader imagines them to be...
Ok Ladies and Gents, the preceeding thread wont make sense to newcomers as i've removed my artwork!
Scarletine wrote: "Ok Ladies and Gents. This is my Portrait of Fool/Beloved/Lord Golden. I think I've been alot kinder to him than alot of the other depictions! RH has seen it and liked it. "
Love it! Is that the Eldering stone carving in his hands? I think I see Fitz & Nighteyes...:-)
Love it! Is that the Eldering stone carving in his hands? I think I see Fitz & Nighteyes...:-)
Stella wrote: "Scarletine wrote: "Ok Ladies and Gents. This is my Portrait of Fool/Beloved/Lord Golden. I think I've been alot kinder to him than alot of the other depictions! RH has seen it and liked it. "Love..."
Yes, that's the memory stone block! I thought someone as fascinating and beautiful as Lord Golden would have been muse for the court painter!! So did a nce formal pose. I'm only leaving the pic up for a few days so the group can see it. ;-)
Seems like quite a strong hint towards the "bonding with a bird to keep an eye on Bee" theory
And vials of dragon blood?
Oh please, please tell me they are going to kelsingra and they use dragon blood to heal the fool and make him into an elderling.