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I thought Veronica Roth made a very ballsy decision, but it paid off. The ending was spoiled for me, but I still cried and cried and cried. It needed to happen because without it, the book would have just been like every other dystopian novel. It was pure, it was beautiful, it was brave.
I think like half of me died at the end!! It was so sad. Four like the rest of the day and most of the next I was very depressed.
i can't say that i agree with the ending but i guess now i've come to terms with it a bit. i do have to say though that while i don't agree with it, it's much better to have that sense of closure than i've seen with other series that left things SO open ended.personally though, while i don't know it would have been realistic, i think that it would have been ok for Tris to survive. i feel like the ending for Four wasn't what i would have given him based on all that he had gone through.
Somebody spoiled it for me and told me Tris dies, at first i was like what?! When i finally got my hands on the book and couldn't put it down i finished it so quickly but when Tris died i was like dying inside. People who don't read do not understand. I was like crying a river after i finished.
I was crying so much at the ending but even though I'm not happy that Tris is dead I think that in some ways it was a good ending for the character so the reader really got to understand how truly brave and selfless she was and a true hero. Don't get me wrong I would be more than happy if Tris lived and her and Four had little number babies :)
I loved the fact that she did the ending because it shows that Tris is selfess when it comes to the people that she loves.
I cried SO hard. Like I couldn't breathe. I wasn't upset with her death though. It wasn't a useless death. It saved everyone and Tobias grew from it. I think I was more upset over Uriah's death... That was REALLY unneeded. Uriah could have lived and things wouldn't have changed
I felt the guilt in tobias about uriah's death. it feels so different when ur reading it from a guy's point of view. u can feel that he is still tough about it but breaking at some points. and then it came tris's death. when i was reading his point of view about her death, i felt like i was crying. i can really feel it in him.VRoth was great in including tobias's point of view in allegiant. fan boys like me understood how tough it is if ur two loved ones died. it's really gonna wanna amke urself push it to the limit just to get over it.
it really makes u measure how manly u are....
Okay I get it the self-sacrifice and all that but then you have a character like Caleb that was trying to right his wrong. Don't get me wrong I love all kind of endings but this was not ballsy is was easy and rushed. Oh she could of went to that vault and accomplished her task been shot a couple of times but still survived because she was brave and strong and a will to survive and make her world better.
Ugh!!! I'm done...
I rooted for a happily ever after, but plotwise I think Veronica Roth has done a great job. Tris stayed true to herself and she might not have been forgiving but she was loving and selfless. By sacrificing her life for Caleb's she made the choice I expected (even wanted) her to make. Tris is such a strong character driven by moral motivation, honestly I would've been slightly disappointed if she hadn't saved Caleb one way or another. The act of sacrificing herself showed how strong, selfless and loving she really was.
Oh, I was mad. Soo many had to die. I hate the ending, but the book had mind-fu*cked me. Still, I hate it. I had liked Insurgent better.
I couldn't believe the ending. It was unfair, completely wrong. She didn't have to die, not even Caleb had to die. I almost threw the book across the room when I finished it. But after the tears stopped and I was calm and pictured a different ending.One where Tris still goes in to release the serum, but instead of dying she gets paralyzed maybe even has to lose a limb and is sentenced to life in a wheelchair. But that life wouldn't be so bad because she would still have Tobias, and one day he would surprise her by carrying her up to the building where the zip-line was set up. He would put her on his lap, they would get strapped in, and she would realize that even if she couldn't walk, with Tobias she could still fly.....
But nooooooooo Veronica just had to go and kill us all!
When I read the ending I had to stop myself from slamming the book shut in rage to finish the book. Then, I took a deep breath, directed my remaining anger at Veronica Ross, and forced myself to calm down by rating the book 1 star and telling the world how terrible the ending was. Of course, it's hard for me not to shout at the person I see reading that book to just stop and make up their own ending because the person who this whole series is about died. However (in my own way...) I agree with Sabine.
I didn't even know what to do afterwards, I simply closed it and cried. Other than wallowing in self-pity and despair there was nothing else for me to do. If I had not have picked up another book I might still be in an unstable condition. Thank you, Veronica Roth, for using safety scissors to extract some of my soul.
Okay, I don't know how to say what I felt after I finished reading Allegiant, but here we go...
My first reaction when I finished the book was:


THIS.
BOOK.
IS.
SO.
FUCKING.
AMAZING!!!
But then It all comes rushing back and I sort of have a mini Heart attack:

That bit when Tris Says to Caleb ' I love you' I actually couldn't read anymore because I was so overcome by this emotion that said...

PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
But then I take a breath and read again this time

BUT THEN SHE GOES INTO THE WEAPONS LAB AND IT'S JUST LIKE...

So the I say to Veronica Roth, YOU CAN'T DO THIS

BUT UNFORTUNATELY MY PRAYERS WERE IN VAIN. SO WHEN I FINALLY MANAGED TO FINISH THE BOOK:

BUT THAT SORT OF WENT OUT THE WINDOW AND I ENDED UP...

CRYING
So really right now I'm just
My first reaction when I finished the book was:


THIS.
BOOK.
IS.
SO.
FUCKING.
AMAZING!!!
But then It all comes rushing back and I sort of have a mini Heart attack:

That bit when Tris Says to Caleb ' I love you' I actually couldn't read anymore because I was so overcome by this emotion that said...

PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
PLEASE TRIS DON'T DIE
But then I take a breath and read again this time

BUT THEN SHE GOES INTO THE WEAPONS LAB AND IT'S JUST LIKE...

So the I say to Veronica Roth, YOU CAN'T DO THIS

BUT UNFORTUNATELY MY PRAYERS WERE IN VAIN. SO WHEN I FINALLY MANAGED TO FINISH THE BOOK:

BUT THAT SORT OF WENT OUT THE WINDOW AND I ENDED UP...

CRYING
So really right now I'm just
BrokenRose wrote: "Okay, I don't know how to say what I felt after I finished reading Allegiant, but here we go...My first reaction when I finished the book was:
THIS.
BOOK.
IS.
SO.
FUCKING.
AMAZING!!!
But..."
Yes! I feel like authors have a written agreement with their readers that they won't totally screw them over and rip their hearts and throw them up like confetti pieces. Then Veronica Roth comes along and she is just like "I can do what i want, so die". I looked like I just came back from the book for about a month after finishing Allegiant. This might sound retarded, but I could not even.
It was spoiled for me but it didn't lessen the crying and the feels after i read the book i know that she would die but still reading it i cried and just VERONICA WHY? on another note after watching the movie of divergent in the end Four said something to Tris about her parents died for her because that's the only way they know how to show their love and I remembered Tris dying and i get all emotional again :(And seriously Four and Tris should have had a HEA
Divergent wrote: "I hated it so I wrote an alternate ending here it is.Narrator: Tris
Scene: Tris is running down the hall way after just taking the backpack from Caleb.
I am running down the hallway and befor..."
awesome!
It was really hard for Tobias, it was unfair, their relationship was very fragile and since Insurgent I didn't felt the chemistry like on Divergent.Also when he throws himself from the building with her ashes it's epic.
I hated that she died, but for me the worst is when Veronica says that Tobias can be mended after all that happened to him. Let's list Tobias' problems:- his mom faked her death and hated his girlfriend;
- his dad beat him when he was a child and then his girlfriend betrayed him to help his father;
- he goes nuts when he finds out he's GD and not GP like Tris (serious self-esteem problems, but who wouldn't have after everything that already happened to him?)
- he's directly responsible for the death of his best friend's brother;
- his girlfriend tried to get killed as many ways as she could think, until she succeded at one;
- when he tried to erase his memory, Christina stopped him.
So I don't think Tobias can be mended. He's gonna have issues for the rest of his life, probably gonna live a lonely life till the day he dies. Maybe therapy and strong medication could help (not that it would be avaliable in dystopian Chicago).
Tris was selfless towards everybody else, but she was very selfish towards Tobias. She never saw for a moment that she was digging his grave too when she took Caleb's place. Now she's in living in her capital-S somewhere with mommy and daddy and left a broken Tobias behind living a pretty shitty life, watching the days go by until the day he dies.
That's how much I hated the end of this book.
The ending was utter crap. Tris was struggling under some grand delusions of heroism. Caleb's death was his only way to redeem himself in front of everyone. She stole that from him... Leaving him to a shitty life shunned by everyone. When your options are "You either die a hero or you live a long happy content life and with your one true love and make truckloads of grand babies" and you choose "die a hero and screw everybody else's happiness"...then your not being selfless... You are crazy lunatic with a highly blown up opinion of self.That said, I didn't hate the ending. If you don't take it too seriously, the whole series was a lot of fun.
I was reading the end of it in Spanish and started crying in class,no joke.I reread it at home and threw the book across the room and cried for hours on end.I almost cry every time I hear the word Allegiant.Caleb should've been brave and not let his sister go.I still hate him for being such a coward.
i hate it that tris died. she was the only heroine who made a decision without having to second guess and really appreciated all the deathly stunts. she was an adrenaline junkie. not once did she hide behind tobias and the books definitely talked less romance than most ya put together. so one good character dead. and whats with the dumb plot? i really expected more. perhaps its just me but i feel tris's death is not is not a good lesson/moral as it advocates negativity.
hated it. what a horrible and unnecessary ending. truly no point in Tris' sacrifice imo. her reasoning for it was childish and illogical and it just pissed me off as an ending and entirely as a book
after reading this book I cried salty tears !! for about a hour start! WHY?WHY?WHY?why?why?why?why?why?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DRIP, DRIP,DRIP, DRIP .
Although the ending was tragic and made me want to throw the book out the window, I feel like it was a brave and necessary decision that Veronica Roth made in order for a non-generic YA dystopian ending.
Hunger Games spoilers in my comment.The Hunger Games was intense and damaged-yet-whole and all that other stuff that Allegiant tries to be by killing Tris, WITHOUT KILLING EITHER OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CHARACTERS and Divergent could have so easily been the same, killing Tris was COMPLETELY POINTLESS and not even realistic because David being in the weapons room? Come on, that was just too much. Things like Maze Runner sequels are fueled by COMPLICATION after COMPLICATION after PLOT TWIST after PLOT TWIST in a very non-clever, sequential kind of way, and David being in the weapons room was that one step too far.
Oh and who else thinks that wiping everyone's memories actually managing to solve all the problems and create a peaceful and mended society was COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS AND SO UNREALISTIC?
Killing Tris ruins the entire thing. It upsets people. Yes, it gives us a very raw and real experience of crying and grieving and healing (over a fictional character) BUT we could have had that if they'd mended EACH OTHER at the end just like Katniss and Peeta did in a way that was raw and real and tear-inducing but wonderful and beautiful at the same time, WHICH ALLEGIANT WAS NOT.
I don't understand how it's possible to write over a thousand pages about a character, spend months and months working on her story and her life, and then CHOOSE to kill her. CHOOSE to upset all the readers. CHOOSE to add grief (over a fictional character) to people's lives.
4 words. I HATE THE ENDING!!!!!!!! Omg I was absolutly loving the romance and adventure in the book. I even had daydreams about little tris and tobias babies, but nope Veronica had to swoop in and ruin the whole dang book. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Veronica had stated that she liked Tobias more than Tris. And when she originally wrote Divergent, she wrote it from his P.O.V. but got stuck somewhere and changed it to Tris. Basically what I'm getting at is that SHE DOESN'T CARE AS MUCH ABOUT TRIS AS SOME OF US DO.Ok so I still really enjoyed the books and Veronica is awesome. I was just sad. I'm dreading watching that part when the movie comes out.
I hated this book but I stopped after about 200 pages. I did not like the way Tobias was narrating every second chapter. They both sounded the same but Tris was tougher. That was not the Tobias/Four I knew and loved from the first 2 books. I loved the movie Divergent but won't bother with the next 3 movies. Very disappointing.
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Why did Tris had to die?! It kills me!
While reading the end of Allegiant I was really crying. When Tris died, I felt like a part of me was dying too.
I know I have to face the heart-breaking truth. She isn't alive. She is and will always be dead.