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Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
Resurrecting the old "Chit Chat" thread because I wanted to share something that doesn't quite fit anywhere else.


message 2: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
There's a great new post on the Goodreads Blog today about thrillers with an interview with Laura Lippman. I figure there are a few people here who would find it interesting. Check it out!

https://www.goodreads.com/blog/show/1...


message 3: by KarenB (new)

KarenB | 352 comments Thanks, Erin!


message 4: by Lenore (new)

Lenore | 1085 comments Is anyone familiar with the mystery/music novels of Gerald Elias? I have started the first one, Devil's Trill, and it's a slow beginning. I used to almost never give up on a book, no matter how inauspicious the start, but I find that as I get older I am more reluctant to waste time. Since I seem to like a lot of the same books as others on this list, I thought I'd ask if anyone knows if I should continue. (I would guess I am about 1/6 of the way through.)


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Merrily | 1791 comments Mod
Lenore wrote: "Is anyone familiar with the mystery/music novels of Gerald Elias? I have started the first one, Devil's Trill, and it's a slow beginning. I used to almost never give up on a book, no..."

I haven't read him, Lenore, but I totally understand your philosophy. Life is too short to keep plodding away at a book that isn't holding your interest. I just gave up on one recently ("Tangerine"), having decided about 1/3 in that I didn't like either one of the unreliable narrators and didn't care what happened to them!


message 6: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
Goodreads Choice Awards voting just opened up for 2018! I did a write-in vote for Island of the Mad for best mystery :D


message 7: by Lenore (new)

Lenore | 1085 comments We just finished the November book. For awhile, The Nine Tailors was listed as the next book, but now the next book is listed as Lyndsay Faye's book in February. Are we not having December and January books?


message 8: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
Lenore, the thing with Nine Tailors is just a quirk of Goodreads groups bookshelves. You have to manually change the previous month to "read" and the current month's selection to "currently reading" or else it isn't displayed correctly.

Working on 2019 selections now.


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Isabella Troxell (isabelredfox) | 19 comments Hello everyone,
I have an unusual problem. My close friend sent me a code coupled with a Beekeeper's Apprentice quote. Two hours later and I have nothing. I don't want to tell him I can't solve it so I wondered if any of you had some ideas or suggestions on how to solve it.

Here's the message:

Madam, there is no treachery in the truth. There may be pain, but to face honestly all possible conclusions formed by a set of facts is the noblest route possible for a human being. 123 37 2 / 187 22 2 291 37 6 / 288 24 7

Please help!


message 10: by Merrily (new)

Merrily | 1791 comments Mod
Isabella, I don't quite understand what he wants you to solve. Are the numbers some sort of message tied to the quote, or...? I'm no codebreaker but it would help to know what he's intending you to solve...


message 11: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Troxell (isabelredfox) | 19 comments My understanding is that it links directly to the beekeepers book.
My idea was 123 page etc....


message 12: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Troxell (isabelredfox) | 19 comments Directly to the book I mean


message 13: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Troxell (isabelredfox) | 19 comments So far I’m wondering if the quote was to tell me the book, the 3 digit number is the book page, but the other two numbers I just can’t figure out at all


message 14: by Merrily (new)

Merrily | 1791 comments Mod
I'm afraid I'm just hopeless at this sort of thing, in part because I am not a puzzle person! Perhaps something like Page 123, 37th line, second word? It might be significant that the first "section" is three numbers, as is the last, but the middle section has six. I'm hoping some of our more puzzle-oriented members will chime in here...


message 15: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Troxell (isabelredfox) | 19 comments Well thank you for trying! I’m stumped as well


It's supposed to look like this I think
123 37 2
187 22 2
291 37 6
288 24 7


message 16: by Ellen (new)

Ellen | 56 comments Generally with book-based ciphers, you have to know both the book being used and the exact edition. That's what can make them so difficult to decipher. The numbers are usually page number, line number, word number. An ebook will not work (unless you have the exact same ereader and exact same settings) because a change in something like font size will affect on which line a specific word will appear. If you know you have the same copy of the book as your friend, try looking on those pages and counting the lines to see what word it might be referencing.

Of course, all of this is simply based on what I've read on code-breaking in books, so it's possible it's completely wrong. :)


message 17: by Mary (new)

Mary (storytellermary) | 262 comments Ellen's approach sounds promising.
I remember codes featured in Holmes stories and in others based on them. Enola Holmes in Nancy Springers' books, has to solve one that involves wrapping the strip of paper around her bicycle frame. Another, echoed in a story by (I think) Hank Phillipi Ryan, featured drawings of dancing men as the code.
I hope this gets solved . . . do share please.


message 18: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Troxell (isabelredfox) | 19 comments Hello everyone!! Thank you all for your help. Last night I was able to solve it. It was what I originally thought, and what you guys thought too
Page number
Line
Word

But my friend and I have different formats of Beekeepers Apprentice hence the discrepancy of the format caused me to not be able to solve it. So after looking at another copy I was able to read the message.

Thanks again!! You guys are awesome ☺️


message 19: by Isabella (new)

Isabella Troxell (isabelredfox) | 19 comments You guys are awesome*


message 20: by Merrily (new)

Merrily | 1791 comments Mod
Isabella wrote: "You guys are awesome*"

Darn, I should have thought of asking what edition you were using, of course that's the key! But at least we had the right general idea, especially Ellen who nailed it!


message 21: by Dayna (new)

Dayna | 205 comments Dan Brown is famous for including cyphers in his books. I’ve never been able to solve any of them. I like cyphers and codes, so it was frustrating. When I was in junior high, my best friend and I passed encoded note to each other using simple letter substitution codes.


message 22: by Dayna (new)

Dayna | 205 comments Grrr! I can never find the list of books to be read when I am at the library. Is that in a topic list or somewhere else? I’m ready for the February book and wanted to get a head start.

Thanks,
Dayna


message 23: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
Dayna wrote: "Grrr! I can never find the list of books to be read when I am at the library. Is that in a topic list or somewhere else? I’m ready for the February book and wanted to get a head start."

Hi Dayna,
The upcoming books are on our group's "to read" bookshelf, here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/books...

You can also get to it from the group homepage. About halfway down the page, there's a section for "upcoming" reads. And there is a link to the group book shelf at the top of the homepage as well. Hope that helps!


message 24: by Dayna (new)

Dayna | 205 comments Thanks, Erin. I saved the link this time.


message 25: by Dayna (new)

Dayna | 205 comments Posting this because we just read a Dorothy Sayers novel and a number of us are Holmesians.

https://crimereads.com/the-public-dom...


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Meredith Taylor | 37 comments Dayna wrote: "Posting this because we just read a Dorothy Sayers novel and a number of us are Holmesians.

https://crimereads.com/the-public-dom..."

Thanks, Dayna, that was good fun. I especially liked the photos! I think the picture of Dorothy L. Sayers was in her role as President (or whatever the title was) of the Detection Club. I am just doing this from memory, but I think they had an elaborate (and hilarious) ritual for initiation of new members which involved that skull, among other things. Go check a search engine for Detection Club Oath, it's really a treat. Gotta memorize that. //Meredith


message 27: by Dayna (new)

Dayna | 205 comments I wondered why the skull! I’ll have to check that out.


message 28: by VeeInNY (new)

VeeInNY April selection, "Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter" is included in Audible's "High Five Sale" ($5 for members) thru March 31.


message 29: by Ellen (new)

Ellen | 56 comments VeeInNY wrote: "April selection, "Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter" is included in Audible's "High Five Sale" ($5 for members) thru March 31."

I was just coming on here to say this! In case anyone wanted to pick up the audiobook.


message 30: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
VeeInNY wrote: "April selection, "Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter" is included in Audible's "High Five Sale" ($5 for members) thru March 31."

Oh, excellent! And I'm actually listening to the audiobook right now and it's wonderful. Kate Reading is one of my favorite readers.


message 31: by Sara (new)

Sara | 30 comments Thanks for the info. Got my copy!


message 32: by Mary (new)

Mary (storytellermary) | 262 comments This moved "Strange Case of the Alchemist's Daughter" to the top of Mt. TBR. I started it last night, and I'm hooked!


message 33: by Lenore (new)

Lenore | 1085 comments For those who have, thanks to Holmes, developed an interest in bees, here's an article about beekeeping that I found interesting: https://getpocket.com/explore/item/lo...


message 34: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
I found a work-around on my Kindle that lets me keep books longer than the three-week check out time (if you're in "airplane mode," the reader can't ping back to Amazon to find out the book is expired). Now I'm in a conundrum. I'm in the middle of two books I'm kind of meh on right now and I have two preordered books that just hit my account. But if I log in to download my preorders, I will lose my overdue library books. Decisions, decisions.


message 35: by KarenB (new)

KarenB | 352 comments I think that goes under the heading of first world problems, Erin! :D


message 36: by Megan (new)

Megan | 97 comments Sync the Kindle app on your phone to start the new books there while you finish the library ones on your Kindle before you resync there?


message 37: by Mary (new)

Mary (storytellermary) | 262 comments Erin wrote: "I found a work-around on my Kindle that lets me keep books longer than the three-week check out time (if you're in "airplane mode," the reader can't ping back to Amazon to find out the book is expi..."

If you are only meh about the books you have, let them go and re-borrow after you finish the ones you want. ;-)


message 38: by KarenB (new)

KarenB | 352 comments This whole social distancing/work from home reaction to the virus (which IMO is very good advice) should let us all get a bit further on our TBR piles. I'm doing some looking on the bright side thinking.


message 39: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
Karen: I was just thinking this morning that now I'll be able to go to earlier gym class :D

(Yes, I get that social distancing dictates that I should maybe not be going to gym class at all, but I think that would be just a little too much to bear after being by myself all day every day. And at least gym class is only 25 people, not the 1000 I was interacting with at work and the who knows how many on transit.)


message 40: by Erin (new)

Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
Oh, and I think my knitting group is going to set up a virtual knit night on Zoom for this weekend.


message 41: by Dayna (new)

Dayna | 205 comments One of my stops today was the library. I’m set for a couple of weeks, at least. One of the finds was another of the “Jimmy Perez” series by Anne Cleve, which is the basis of the TV show Shetland. Anyone else a fan?


message 42: by Megan (new)

Megan | 97 comments Our libraries are all closed until the second week of April here - thank goodness for Libby, Hoopla, etc.! So it will definitely be a good time to work through that TBR!


message 43: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 399 comments KarenB wrote: "This whole social distancing/work from home reaction to the virus (which IMO is very good advice) should let us all get a bit further on our TBR piles. I'm doing some looking on the bright side thi..."

I do seem to be getting more reading done. I'm also cooking more, not going out to eat as often. I'm rather enjoying getting the reading done, but I wish it wasn't due to all the cancellations from the Coronavirus.


message 44: by Dena (new)

Dena | 84 comments Dayna wrote: "One of my stops today was the library. I’m set for a couple of weeks, at least. One of the finds was another of the “Jimmy Perez” series by Anne Cleve, which is the basis of the TV show Shetland. A..."
Hi Dayna, I'm listening to Cold Earth (book 7) now. I liked the TV series also. Book 8 is waiting on my MP3 Player. Then- no more Perez. . .


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Erin (tangential1) | 1638 comments Mod
I decided to give up on the library reads in favor of A Murderous Relation, Deanna Raybourn's latest book! I am way more excited about getting back to Veronica and Stoker than what I had been reading.


message 46: by Emily (new)

Emily | 341 comments This was described as "dueling Holmeses" in one of my feeds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI88g...

(Benedict Cumberbatch and Jonny Lee Miller)


message 47: by Virginia (new)

Virginia | 20 comments Dayna, I am a big fan of both the Shetland series and Vera. Although I do love the TV adaptation of Shetland, I just can't get my head around a blonde Jimmy Perez. Same problem with both the sheriff and The Cheyenne Nation in Longmire.


message 48: by Lenore (new)

Lenore | 1085 comments By happenstance, I just glanced at the photo of Laurie with a parrot sitting on her white hair. A lot more attractive than the fly on Pence's white hair! :-)


message 49: by Dayna (new)

Dayna | 205 comments How do you all feel about ordering books from Amazon? I tend to use it as a last resort—more for availability than price.

Reason for asking: I’d like to suggest reading one of Maureen Jennings’ mysteries, but there are very few print copies available of any of her series from independent book sellers or the price is $15 or more depending on the series and format plus shipping. While I’m not opposed to paying that for a book I really want to read, I also hesitate to suggest a book that is hard to come by or more than $10 from a seller other than Amazon, which sells print copies of the Murdoch Mysteries series for as little as $5 plus $4 for shipping. There are Kindle versions for less than $10, but I generally prefer to read print—avoiding digital because I read just before bed.

I’ve never read any of the Murdoch series but have been watching the series on Hulu. Some of the comments I’ve read suggest the books are darker than the series. Jennings and her daughter were heavily involved in writing scripts, consulting and producing the series.

There is only one Jennings book in the system from my local library, which I am reading now (Season of Darkness) about the murder of a Land Army woman in rural 1940-England.

Jennings’ Charlotte Frayne, P.I. series also looks intriguing. If you want to know more about Jennings and her books, check out her website at https://maureenjennings.com/ Maureen Jennings.

So back to my original question: Buying from Amazon—thumbs up or down? Comments welcome!


message 50: by KarenB (new)

KarenB | 352 comments I don't have much of a problem with it given that much of what I read is on kindle. If I buy a physical book, I try to get it from an independent bookstore. But if there are moral or ethical objections to Amazon from others in the group, I can certainly respect that position.


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