Read All The Classics!!!

[Em Lost In Books]

August 1?

[Beste]

Manju wrote: "August 1?"

I'm in

[Laura Tenfingers]

Yes!

[Zaara]

Veronica wrote: "I'm interested in joining for some of these classic BRs. Right now I'm eyeing North and South - since I already own that one. :-) "

I hope you'll come, Ron.
And GWTW is worth staying up for ;-)

[Beste]

So I'm asking for a thread now if its ok with everyone?

[Em Lost In Books]

👍

[Beste]

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Here is the link to Anna Karenina

[Em*Greedy* (Iniya)]

We are reading North and South in July, right? Do we have a thread for that?

[Em Lost In Books]

Iniya wrote: "We are reading North and South in July, right? Do we have a thread for that?"

No idea. Let Mods reveal BR list for July. If we don't see it there, we can ask then.

[Em Lost In Books]

Beste wrote: "https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Here is the link to Anna Karenina"

Great!

[Zaara]

Iniya wrote: "We are reading North and South in July, right? Do we have a thread for that?"

Not yet. I'll ask for it...moro....when everyome is awake...

[Hailee]

Zaara Gut Siscourator wrote: "Iniya wrote: "We are reading North and South in July, right? Do we have a thread for that?"

Not yet. I'll ask for it...moro....when everyome is awake..."

Yay finally going to be getting to North and South. Also since N&S is over 500 pages I'll be able to read it for the Tome Topple readathon so that is an unexpected bonus!!

[Zaara]

Woot! And Veronica said she'll come too...happy...been ages since I read a book with her...

[Hailee]

Zaara wrote: "Woot! And Veronica said she'll come too...happy...been ages since I read a book with her..."

Yes!!! Seems like there is a lot of interest for N&S so it should be a good one 👍

[Ahdam]

Ok guys here's the deal I recently watched one flew over the cuckoos nest with Jack Nicholson and it's fucking brilliant and I know you should always read the book first but I thought why not read the film then watch the book and I don't know if I'm doing it right but does anyone want to read one flew over the cuckoos nest in august or September?

[Laura]

I want to watch that book with you Ahdam. :D
It's been sitting on my shelves for a very long time and it's about time it should be read.
Just don't set the start date on the 15th or 26th please. I've got big books on those days. :)

[Ahdam]

Okay so how about the 10th it doesn't seem like a long book around 300 pages so we can have a go reading it then I'm considering waiting for a bit to look for any other takers

(Zaara I checked and you haven't read this book yet and I wanna make up for catch 22)

[Laura]

the 10th is fine Ahdam. :)

[Zaara]

Ahdam wrote: "Zaara I checked an..."

That is sweet of you Ahdam...but won't you and @Dragonchild go ahead on this one please?

[Ahdam]

Sorry about that had to do some stuff anyway we can do the 10th soooo do we just go to the add this buddy read thread then sorry I wasn't paying attention when you guys did the other books

Can't wait to get my McMurphy ratched on :) :) :)

[Beste]

Shall we read The Brothers Karamazov in September?

[Em Lost In Books]

Beste wrote: "Shall we read The Brothers Karamazov in September?"

you sure you can do Tolstoy one month and Dostoevsky next? O.O

that too BK?

[Beste]

Manju wrote: "Beste wrote: "Shall we read The Brothers Karamazov in September?"

you sure you can do Tolstoy one month and Dostoevsky next? O.O

that too BK?"

We can do another Tolstoy before Dostoyevsky if you like. I don't mind:) How about War and Peace???

[Em Lost In Books]

lolss... no, no. i have no plans to read AK in one month. am sure I am not finishing it anytime soon. I am giving myself the deadline of December, 2018 to wrap up AK. :):)

I read The Idiot earlier this year and I I think my poor heart can take only one FD in 365 days. ;)

[Beste]

I see then 1 from each. I want to read all these:
Nausea
Dead Souls
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Mrs. Dalloway
The Divine Comedy
The Cherry Orchard
You can pick one or suggest another. I just want some change of weather between all our fantasy books.

[Angela Jr.]

Hey :)
I'd like to get to these by march 2019:
Animal farm by george orwell
The day of the triffids by john wyndham

[Beste]

Finished my share of the monthly classical tragedy torment (Wuthering Heights) What is next?

[Angela Jr.]

I don't know what the plan is for this thread, but i have a buddy read for animal farm starting on oct 5th and for 1984 on oct 22nd if you want to join. Day of the triffids is happening nov 5th

[Beste]

Angela Jr. wrote: "I don't know what the plan is for this thread, but i have a buddy read for animal farm starting on oct 5th and for 1984 on oct 22nd if you want to join. Day of the triffids is happening nov 5th"

I'm up for all :) Though non of it has the tragedy elements.



Uh-oh this just sounded masochist to me:))))

[Angela Jr.]

Beste wrote: "Angela Jr. wrote: "I don't know what the plan is for this thread, but i have a buddy read for animal farm starting on oct 5th and for 1984 on oct 22nd if you want to join. Day of the triffids is ha..."

Great, the threads are already up :)

[Anni]

Zaara and me are going to hijack this thread and read Frankenstein, feel free to join us! :)

[Anni]

Let me start with the statement that I'm not an avid classic reader... And in this case it means I'm struggeling a little with the language, but I guess it will just take s little time to get used to it.

Preface by the author: I'm not sure your copy als have this, because it seems to depend, a friend's copy don't have it. (The author explain why she wrote the story and how she get the idea). I think it's a nice addition, but I could have lived without it... Actually I would have liked it more when, after reading the story because then I would have known what she's talking about :D

Letter 1-4:Phew, I'm still not completely invested... I was a little confused at first because I wasn't sure who's who and what's going on. It don't know very much of the story, but this is not what I expected... (view spoiler)[ I really like stories inside stories, so I really like the idea of the letters. The characters still seemed a little flat to me and I don't feel a connection, but we barely started so I don't expect too much ;) I'm wondering who the man on the first sled had been, could it be 'The monster'? 🤔 (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 1-3 (view spoiler)[ As I said, my idea what this is going to be about is pretty vague, but somehow it's not that. I'm a little confused and excited at the same time :) So far I find the story a little dragging, but I like the little cliffhangers at the chapters end, they make me want to start the next chapter imediately.
I have a hard time to find something meaningful and storywise to discuss, I hope you'll have some points for me dear Zaara :)
His 'sister' and how the relationship between then was discribed sounds a little strange and unhealty to me, that can't end well, don't you think? (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 4 - 6: (view spoiler)[Huh! I haven't expected the monster to show up that early! I'm wondering where it went? And have noone seen it walking around? I mean it's been a while since it escaped... In general I'm wondering why none of the professors or other students said something about what the young Frankenstein is doing here? Are they ok with him playing with dead bodyparts? Or did he kept it a secret? But how would that be possible, it's not like a small thing you could lock away in a box...
Henry seems tobe a great friend, Victor should be happy to have him! I'm a little scared for him. Don't the old Frankenstein, menrioned in the Letters that he had a friend once and lost him. :/ (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

That's as far as I've already read, before you suggested doing a Buddy Read. I will wait for you now :)

[Shae]

@Sir Anni and @Zaara - I hope you guys enjoy Frankenstein :-)

I read it recently to support my daughter in her high school English course. Although she struggled a bit to get through it, it really did generate a lot of good questions and conversation around 'what it means to be human' and 'nature vs nuture'.

A fun fact - Percy Bysshe Shelley (Mary Shelley's husband) is on an obscure branch of our family tree (via his first, unhappy, marriage) - how weird is that!

[Zaara]

I'm here...Anni...sorry this is late!
Frankenstein Log
Author's introduction:
(view spoiler)[
I, on the other hand, liked it very much because it was such an honest heartfelt account of the writing process and it contained some images I liked; her childhood in Scotland and those scenes of tranquil domesticity in Switzerland and (later) her grief in widowhood. It must have hurt remembering those happy times when she wrote this introduction, no?
But there is a dignity in the quiet way in which she ends that paragraph.

There are also some large ideas I'd have liked to pursue further...the part about inverted logic + invention never being from a void, but from chaos + and particularly the line... "Everything must have a beginning, and that beginning must be linked to something that went before."
What I didn't like was her sycophantic praise of Byron because honestly, at the time, Byron's earlier poetry was almost comically bad...look at The Giaour, for instance, such pretentious crap, but he had all these crazed fans.
But then
1. In those days, appearances had to be maintained within literary circles + he was her neighbour and her husband's friend, looks like. Still, hard to believe her fulsome praise in this paragraph was quite heartfelt, no?
2. Then Byron went and wrote other, better things.
3. He was, himself, such a colourful man that he deserved some testimony for his mere presence.
Ok that's enough I think about the intro...😂 where you are absolutely right, Anni, is in saying that the placement is wrong. All this would've had so much more meaning coming after the experience of reading the book.Well, it was how they did things (formally) in those days.
Also...frankly, I didn't understand the (2nd) Preface at ALL...😶
(hide spoiler)]

LETTERS
(view spoiler)[
Also, the language is a bit OTT and totally makes me roll my eyes sometimes. The (several) parts in all the letters which sound like this:
"I feel my heart glow with an enthusiasm that transports me to heaven...."
😜
Dio Mio, is R. Walton writing to his mistress about their last (superlative, sounds like) tryst or to his sister about his journeys??
Because if I read that passage all alone with no other supporting material, I would've thought he was describing the former, not the latter.
O well...it was the prose of the times.

You asked about the bro-sis relationship...nope (mostly) it doesn't seem unhealthy to me (Elizabeth and Viktor seemed much worse but then they aren't really truly brother and sister at all, are they?)
Walton is just very over 'affectionate' in the flowery style of the era + the sister is almost like his mother since she was the one who brought him up, he says + he was stuck in Russia/on the ship where nobody spoke his language + look how he wrote that he was very lonely, poor kid, and desperate to find a friend to talk to.
So stuff like "I love you with the tenderest devotion, dear sister" which would surely be too creepy nowadays were not so weird in Byronic times...at least, I think not.
But yea, at times...(see above) even I found the prose a bit too...*eyerolls*
What I found most unbelievable, however, is that he has to tell his SISTER the story of his life, via a letter from Russia...haha 😂😂😂 terrible (archaic) infodump method + debut author!
(hide spoiler)]

[Zaara]

CH 1-3
(view spoiler)[
You're right...you didn't miss anything, Anni, because there really is nothing...couldn't find anything much to say either.
Walton DEFFO seems to have like an early "mancrush"/bromance with this stranger whom he rescued. I assume the "letters" are going to be the framing device of the story like the Chronicler with Kvothe? I liked his 'hero-worship'y descriptions of Viktor. This one, particularly:

How can I see so noble a creature destroyed by misery without feeling the most poignant grief? He is so gentle, yet so wise; his mind is so cultivated, and when he speaks, although his words are culled with the choicest art, they flow with rapidity and unparalleled eloquence.

I mean a dude like this just sounds fascinating and intriguing and it is sad to think of the ruin and destructiom that is to come...the scale of the waste. The sheer waste of human potential alone...
(hide spoiler)]

CH 4-6
(view spoiler)[
Dr Frankenstein quickly became uber creepy, messing around in graveyards with corpses and sh!t...well, Da Vinci was the same. Huh, these men of science and their remorseless kreepy fascinations with the unknown! Well, he is playing at being "God"...and now I actively dislike him...if this is how he chose to use his gifts of person and intellect. Desecrating pauper graves and torturing stray animals?? Nope, he says "dissection room" & "charnel houses" & "slaughterhouses" so I assume he buys parts of dead bodies and experimentally assembles them? Does he (secretly) think/hope he can bring his mother back to life?
More fool he.

Actually, these chapters read like a classic case study in toxic addiction/substance abuse, wouldn't you say, Anni? Look how he is simultaneously disgusted with himself, but cannot apply the brake...its kinda like a segue of fascinated horror...he cannot stop himself falling off the rails but all the time his insides are screaming at him to stop:

Often did my human nature turn with loathing from my occupations BUT...
Also, the scenes where he (and we, the reader) feels such heavy sadness for the beautiful summers which passed him by...viz. contrast the scenic endings of Chapters 4 and 6.
"Never did the fields bestow a more plentiful harvest or the vines yield a more luxuriant vintage: but my eyes were insensible to these natural charms."

Viktor...you fool...this isn't going to end well...😒😕

Re Ch 5 and 6...you're right, even I didn't expect the monster would be introduced so early and with so little preamble! And yep, it is the monster on the sled. That's why Viktor wanted to know where the ship was headed. Heh, it is so BIZARRE, him being totally obsessed with creating this and then when his goal is finally achieved and he nearly destroyed himself and his sanity...immediately he is disgusted and repulsed with what he did?
O come ON! I find this highly unbelievable...haha...the first MALE postpartum (post natal???) depression...😂😂😂

Also, what a 😡 bastaaaaardo...yeah Anni...what happened to the baby?
Ok so it is a "repulsive" 8 foot tall Frankenstein's monster but it is still a little (zombie) baby and look how he heartlessly abandoned it. He should have thought abt all this before messing around with the corpse parts, yes?
That poor baby is now all alone in the snow...it will be so scared...it won't know where to go or to whom...wtf!
(hide spoiler)]

[Zaara]

Shae wrote: "@Sir Anni and @Zaara - I hope you guys enjoy Frankenstein :-)
I read it recently to support my daughter in her high school English course. Although she struggled a bit to get through it, it really..."

Hello Shae...🙋 its nice you did that for/with your daughter + how cool to be reading something written by one of your own ancestors!
I hope you'll stick around with us and share your thougths as we proceed thru the book....seeing as you have literary blood n all.
:-))) we'd love to have you along for the ride. Welcome to FBR.

[Shae]

@Zaara - Thank you for the lovely warm welcome :-) I've really loved reading through all the Frankenstein comments so far! I'll try to pop back into this thread when I get the opportunity :-)

[Anni]

Zaara wrote: "I'm here...Anni...sorry this is late!
Frankenstein Log
Author's introduction:..."

My dear milady Zaara, reading your response, I felt my heart glow with an enthusiasm that transports me to heaven! 😁

That said, you don't need to be sorry, I'm a littte late with my reply too 😅
There's a second preface? Hmmm... I'm listening to this on audio and maybe these two blurred together... Or I maybe only have one?

I like what you said, especially on Byron. I'm sorry to say, I've got no idea who he was... I'm such a philistine, sorry!

Letter 1 - 4 (view spoiler)[ Oh I'm afraid I haven't made myself clear. The unhealty brother/sister relationship I was talking about was indeed Victor and Elizabeth!
I actually found Mr. Walton's letters to his sister kind of cute :) He overacts a little but I almost feel his love to her! (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

Hi Shae, as Zaara said: Great to have you! :)
How lovely that you read the book together with your daughter, I'm sure it helped her a lot, especially to find the motivation to continue!

[Anni]

Zaara wrote: "CH 1-3"

I think there's nothing to add to Chapter 1-3 😅

Chapter 4 - 6 (view spoiler)[ A male post-natal depression? 😂 That made me laugh so hard! And it might be even true! Don't hate your baby Victor, the little guy just wants a little love, go find him!

I also agree with what you said about toxic addiction, that's exactly how he behave, I haven't thought of it while reading. I only saw his really unhealthy obsession.

You mentioned somewhere that he might try to bring his mother back to life. And there was a line where he's talking about bringing the dead back and he said that he once tried to bring them back as they were beforex including their personality and soul... And that it haven't worked? You think he's talking about his mother? I somehow think he's talking avout Elizabeth. That she will die somehow and he'll trie to bring her back... (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

Chapter 7 + 8 (view spoiler)[ Ok wow, that escalated quickly. The moment I read (listened actually, but you know what I mean!) about his father telling him someone's dead, I thought my assumtion became true and Elizabeth died... But it was his brother, poor little guy. The book is pretty dark.

I guess it was clear that the monster would show up there and also that he asumed it killed his brother. Still, it's somehow the most obvious solution... And well in general I don't trust the most obvious solution. I'm wondering if the author want us to think it was the monster who killed Victors brother?
I feel very sorry for the sentenced girl, but again, am I supposed to feel sorry for her and it was indeed her? I'm so confused here, but it's a good kind of confusion ;) I like it when I don't know what to belive anymore!

Also I really like Victor's inner conflict (but not him... Sorry, but I still can't bring myself to like him). The way he think it's his fault. That is was him who creates the monster and is now responsible for it's actions. It makes one think, don't you agree?
I mean in this case, I think he is somehow resposible, especially because he creates something and the moment it became kind of dangerous, he became scared and decided to not care about it anymore... I guess that was one of his biggerst faults. Besides working with corpses and stuff in the first place... (hide spoiler)]

Chapter 9 + 10 (view spoiler)[ These two chapters where a little slower. Normally I like atmospheric descriptions of the landscape, but here I don't really feel it...

And then there it was the face-off. Again, I don't expected it to happen this early. I can't wait to hear the monster's story! (hide spoiler)]

[Anni]

I read a few more chapters yesterday and I'll read a little more later, maybe I'll even try to finish today and collect a few more points ;)

Chapter 11 - 16: (view spoiler)[ The monster's story was really interesting and I like the way the author connects different stories. She made me care for the blind man's family, even if they are only side characters and we likely won't see them again! Still, I think that could be a little fustrating too, because the storie goes on and on and nothing happens, it a little dragging. I might have felt that way if I actually read the book instead of listening to it... Would be even worse if I were forced to read it for school etc 😅

I'm a little surprised the monster killed Frankenstein's brother and especially that he destroyed the poor girls life so willingly... And it happend so fast!

He now wants his own little monster girlfriend... Ok... As we see him later alone on the sled, followed by Frankenstein, I don't think this will happen (hide spoiler)]

[Shae]

Sir Anni wrote: "Hi Shae, as Zaara said: Great to have you! :)
How lovely that you read the book together with your daughter, I'm sure it helped her a lot, especially to find the motivation to continue!"

Thank you Anni :-)

My daughter is 15 yrs old and I think it's fair to say that she found this book to be quite a challenge! When we started out, she joked that she would be happy to sacrifice her copy to be used as kindling for our wood fire :-)

However, we worked through it together and upon completion she said; (view spoiler)["You know what Mum, this book was not really the horror story that I was expecting. It made me feel deeply sad that people are so incredibly judgmental. All the poor creature wanted was to be loved and accepted. Instead he was treated with fear and loathing. So, filled with anger at the unfairness of it all, he gave in to evil.

It could have all been so different!" (hide spoiler)]

I was pretty impressed with her understanding (and also relieved that we made it to the finish line :-)

[Anni]

Shae wrote: "Sir Anni wrote: "Hi Shae, as Zaara said: Great to have you! :)
How lovely that you read the book together with your daughter, I'm sure it helped her a lot, especially to find the motivation to con..."

I'm done as well and I really like her conclusion :) I gave the book 3 stars. It wasn't bad at all, but it's just not really my cup of tea I guess...

(view spoiler)[ As I said I really liked the monsters backstory and the developement was pretty believable. Of course it wasn't right to kill all the people, but I somehow see where it's coming from it's actually something I could belive someone really would do... I guess that's the most scarry part of this book all the psychology behind their actions and the human darkness.

I couldn't bring myself to like Frankenstein at all, or feel sorry for him... I think he had some serious mental problems, at some point I thought the monster was actually a thing he created in his mind and that he actually killed the people but blame the monster, which wasn't even there.

the ending was a little aprupt... still I'm glad the writer of the letters is fine and could go back to his beloved sister ;) (hide spoiler)]

[Zaara]

Sir Anni wrote: "I read a few more chapters yesterday and I'll read a little more later, maybe I'll even try to finish today and collect a few more points ;)

Chapter 11 - 16: The monster's story was really inter..."

Hey I stopped at the exact same place too....just pulling up my log. It has a RANT.

[Zaara]

Sir Anni wrote: "My dear milady Zaara, reading your response, I felt my heart glow with an enthusiasm that transports..."

*seductive voice*
Now when you say it like THAT, Sir Knight, after the things I said....😜😉...
Ok...now...I'm so glad you don't like Viktor Anni bcuz if you did, i wouldn't be able to understand it. I have read till chapter 17 but then my eyes fell out of my head and I had to stop.

CH 7-8 RANT...GUT SISCOURATING RANT...BEWARE....
(view spoiler)[
He stayed silent and let Justine DIE? He did this because he was "afraid" people will think he is insane? Wtf!
The utter and unconscionable BASTARD.
He should have spoken, he should have spoken regardless rather than let an innocent person (his sister almost) die, after he had the proof that he was the one responsible.
There would have been a stay of excution and he could've shown the officials his lab.

I moved beyond dislike...in fact, I lost all respect for this narrator, Anni. Pathetic, self-obsessed whine he is. Look how everything, from the beginning, is ALL about him...his driving obsession, his contempt for better informed men of science PURELY based on his snap judgements, his horrors and fears, then his irresponsible abandonment of the consequences of his actions...and then, people are dying around him, the people he loves and he is all:
"no one can conceive the anguish I suffered during the remainder of the night, which I spent cold and wet, in the open air. But I did not feel the inconvenience of the weather; my imagination was busy in scenes of evil and despair..."
Wtf, he is DIRECTLY responsible for the death of two innocent people....but he's all ooooo don't mind me, people I am so noble and anguished...look how I am inconveniencing myself in the rain and subtly reminding y'all about it!

Its all...all...always about him! From the start of the story. Did you notice this, how he treats all the other ppl as satellites moving around him? Clerval had to nurse him/give up his studies to take him on a holiday/and then delay his university entrance, his family keeps begging Viktor to write or visit but he won't, he ABANDONS his creation and then stayed silent when two ppl die for it and then fell sick again and now he has run off into the mountains again, alone...when is gonna give something back to all these ppl?

Too, his sabrerattling paroxysms of dramatic agonies...his father and later also Elizabeht came to plead with him....father says, he must think of the other survivors, the other family members + that we also owe a duty to ourselves...not these overexcessive indulgences of grief...but nonooooo....Viktor will not listen. He will not be entreated by either parent or beloved...his immediate response is:

"I could only answer with a look of despair and THENCEFORTH HIDE MYSELF FROM HIS VIEW"
And later, when Elizabeth begs him, he is "encompassed by the cloud which no beneficial influence could penetrate"

Seriously Anni...I can't believe this guy! Where is his HUMANITY? Where is his compassion? Where his empathy? Where is his ADULTHOOD?
He says he loves his family and friends, doesn't he feel the slightest urge to help them or anyone else?
Additionally his frequent humble asides, such as:
"Yet my heart overflowed with kindness and the love of virtue."
*snort*
Yeah, right! You VIRTUOUSLY sent an innocent dependant to the gallows for the murder of your kid brother.

I hesitate to call anyone a narcissist because the term is so extreme in the connotations of its unpleasantness...but this pathetic selfabsorbed excuse of manhood...I am literally spitting with rage during these two chapters...sorry for the rant, I know you'll feel the same when you read this. I don't know enough ugly swears for this unconscionable...(oh he has the trappings and APPEARANCE of a conscience) person but don't believe in his own words about himself, Anni, look at his actions.

😡 virtuous...
My arse!
(hide spoiler)]

[Zaara]

CH 9-10
(view spoiler)[
As I said, I am not enjoying the human element of the book at all + the narrator sucks. But from the beginning, I loved the descriptions of nature...which contratingly...😂😂😂 you said you are not feeling.

The scene describing the thunderstorm (haha I actually started writing "highstorm"...omigosh Anni I have to finish WoR in two days before its Oct 31 or I will lose all those points)...uhhh where was I?
Oh yea, the " storm over Geneva on the night of the mudrer" scene was good...
But these lovely Gothic descriptions of wandering in the Alps at the end of CH 9 amd the start of CH 10 are lovely.
Nature for me, is gonna be the sole saving grace and mainstay of the book...because the humans in it are pathetic.
Also if the Monster kills Degan Gaunt Viktor, I will cheer!
In any case, he is toooooooo miserable, no?
Death would only release him from his unsupportably flowery agonies.

Ok I am ranting abt Viktor again...haha...but in the conversation of Chapter 10 I am totally on the side of the Beast/Daemon...I hate how this fellow keeps calling it the "wretch" and the "brute"...when it shows that it can reason with such a depth of feeling?
I wonder whether my views will change in the chapters detailing the "Monster's story"...because like I said...I am already strongly predisposed towards....

Reading the early chapters of "Viktor on a Whinge Binge" I wondered how a book so appallingly mediocre gained such an aura of timelessness. Now I realise...it is not Viktor Frankenstein who has achieved such an immortal place in public memory...not he who is so widely celebrated that he has become iconic...it is the MONSTER.
D'you know, Anni, that most ppl call the Monster "Frankenstein" when it was actually the name of the mad scientist (who pretends to himself that he is sane) who created it? I'm not being condescending or explaining the difference to you or anything...I'm saying did you know most ppl who have not read the novel mix them up???
Bcuz I didn't know that...😖😂
But from the beginning, I always liked the beasts and monsters much more than the Mad Scientist/Mad Doctor trope.
(hide spoiler)]

Ok I ALSO finished the Monster portion of the story, Anni...until Chapter 17. It's good these chapters are so short! But I am too sleepy to log abt this now, sweetz. Gonna do it moro...

EDIT Yeah...I was sleepy the night before. Right now, I am just lazy.

[Anni]

You're here :) I love reading your rants/thoughts! :) And of course I agree with everything you said about Frankenstein, still... (view spoiler)[ I guess that's the whole point, isn't it? To show how bad and twisted humanity could be? I don't think I the author want us to like him, but think about him and maybe even some of our own actions. Of course they aren't as bad (at least I hope so :D) but it's all about the small thinks and little gestures!

I wanted to be on the monsters side as well, but can't... Maybe the murder of the boy could somehow count as an accident (which I don't see that way), but the way he gave the girl the necklace? Nooo, that was really bad and sneaky! (hide spoiler)]

[Zaara]

When I wrote that log...I hadnt yet read chapters 11-17, I have now so yeah...agreed.