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message 751: by Zaara (new)

Zaara | 4273 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "*THE BASHFUL GIF*"

:D
IKR?

But this was nothing, man...nothing. Yearlong tracker train of trash + random wordiness + pretending to be suitably kerfuffled by Anni...tis all as NOTHIN' compared to the true levels of diabolic chaos I can summon from the Dark Side.

You think you had it tough? Pshaaaw you got off easy.
And here, I can prove it.

Mildly NSFW/Text Only
(view spoiler)

Somehow I perversely blame FBR and the Team Reading Competition for all this happening...if I hadn't been so mindfukked and sleepstarved by all the READING 😂😂😂 haha...
Dear God, if this was Year 1, I can on,y imagine what Year 2 is gonna be like, y'all.
Congrats on winning the tourney again!
NOW Iain, you have actually earned the right to squirm and twist your beard.
*KICK*


message 752: by Zaara (last edited Nov 08, 2018 11:51PM) (new)

Zaara | 4273 comments Niki Hawkes wrote: "Cute new pic, Zaara!"

:-) thanks Niki. It's The Devil and Eve by Italian artist Nicoletta Ceccoli...and did you see how beautifully my tracker also stopped at 666 pofts now that I embraced my evil side? I don't even wanna funk with it.
😮😃
As you can see, I have this highly developed sense of play love to be extremely immature so I find this extremely cool that it happened during Halloween! I think I will get also get a Biblical rename for my tracker to match. I have a fantastic idee...it is Biblical so it matches my profile pic and it is ALSO a play on the words "BR" and "Read"...

And hey. Hope you also saw the "Pun"icorn spoiler I left you over at Tome Raiders...to celebrate the end of the tourney. Its a bit more edgy than the ones I left for the other Mods bcuz #HomeTeam...😂😝😜 thks for always making me feel comfortable...mainly this was in letting me come and go randomly, which suited my lifestyle and personal ways...you were a great Captain, buuuuut I've said that already.

Also sorry my reply's so late...I was AWOL. The tourney ended and I decided to be a slacker on all my BRs + my girl cousin decided to have two weddings (a small AND a large) and PREPONE the first one to (you gotta believe this, Niki) next month 😱 so...yeah...filial duty calls me to scramble hither and anon across several pouffy bridal activities...

Also I hope nobody is annoyed that I trashtalked here a bit. Since the Tourney is over and this Year 1 thread is now basically obsolete...figured we could use it to play...until it is sent to the Thread Morgue...till then it is just sitting here...


message 753: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Zaara wrote: "all men are #prey"




message 754: by Scott , Karsa Orlong (new)

Scott  Hitchcock (lostinthewarrenofchaos) | 8083 comments Mod
Zaara wrote: "I think it is a superb idea! ."

Thank you, madame. :P


message 755: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments OMG I want that T-shirt :O


message 756: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Just asking for the sake of it. Are we setting the spreadsheet in advance for next year? I'm really pumped up to help making it (and I promised I'll set up custom scoresheet for several people) but I'll be traveling the last two weeks of 2018.

I know the team draft hasn't been done yet, but maybe we could set up the 'scoresheet template'? I'll be able to take care of individual demands that way :)


message 757: by Rob (last edited Nov 28, 2018 11:26AM) (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Virginie wrote: "Just asking for the sake of it. Are we setting the spreadsheet in advance for next year? I'm really pumped up to help making it (and I promised I'll set up custom scoresheet for several people) but..."

I actually started resetting it (copied it to my local google drive) a week or so ago with a new basic page for everyone as a starting point, but haven't finished up yet. Was just going to get into it again when of course today I just got an idea to put a whole new twist on it to make it easier - thinking of using a google form as a universal book input method (easier for phone users too) for everyone on the front end and then have stats pages on the back end for people who want to see more.


message 758: by Rob (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Rob wrote: "Virginie wrote: "Just asking for the sake of it. Are we setting the spreadsheet in advance for next year? I'm really pumped up to help making it (and I promised I'll set up custom scoresheet for se..."

Figure we have over a month to put something together and share with it the rest of the group for comment and approval. Considering I did the first one in a day or two and then we tweaked it after the competition started, I think we're in no rush :)


message 759: by Virginie (last edited Nov 28, 2018 11:44AM) (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Oooh, looks cool! I've never used Google Forms, but it seems like a neat idea to add books. Would you mind sharing a link (even as view/comment only)? Won't speak for everyone, but I'm pretty sure Iain is up if you want to bounce ideas of off him (and me, of course) :)

I found it helps a lot to have a few people to 'review' your set-up and ideas. It's totally up to you, of course :)


message 760: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Rob wrote: "Considering I did the first one in a day or two and then we tweaked it after the competition started, I think we're in no rush :)"

True :)
I was just wondering if you were going to 'host' to scoresheets this year again.

(also, I'm already thinking of ways to tweak my own spreadsheet like a proper nerd lol)


message 761: by Rob (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Virginie wrote: "Oooh, looks cool! I've never used Google Forms, but it seems like a neat idea to add books. Would you mind sharing a link (even as view/comment only)? Won't speak for everyone, but I'm pretty sure ..."

Absolutely :) Once I get something set up to a certain point, I'll invite you both in to have a looksee.


message 762: by Anni (new)

Anni | 5066 comments Uuuuh, I would love to see it as well!!!


message 763: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Rob wrote: "Absolutely :) Once I get something set up to a certain point, I'll invite you both in to have a looksee."

Great :D Thanks!!!


message 764: by Rob (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Virginie wrote: "Rob wrote: "Absolutely :) Once I get something set up to a certain point, I'll invite you both in to have a looksee."

Great :D Thanks!!!"


Just private messaged you through goodreads with access to early drafts.


message 765: by Virginie (last edited Nov 28, 2018 12:50PM) (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Yay! I got ambushed by friends with dinner. Since I'm French, it involved (lots of) wine :p
Will take a look when I'm sober lol.


message 766: by Rob (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Virginie wrote: "Yay! I got ambushed by friends with dinner. Since I'm French, it involved (lots of) wine :p
Will take a look when I'm sober lol."


Yes, spreadsheets and wine is a dangerous combo.


message 767: by Virginie (last edited Nov 28, 2018 12:56PM) (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments My inner little devil says it's the pathway to genius, but I'll sagely ignore it :p

PS: it looks like this: (view spoiler)


Diana Stormblessed (dashichka) | 5357 comments That is the cutest little kitty devil


message 769: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
I'll be around, when a copy is made available... I think the Year 2 sheet is going to be even harder to fit to a single screen, than last year... since new things are important, like Audiobook vs Print, etc...


message 770: by Yanique, Thread Master (new)

Yanique Gillana | 2881 comments Mod
Ooooh will the new sheet have new fancy bells and whistles?! Because I copied mine from this year to keep track of my reading from now on since I enjoyed it so much.


message 771: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Rob's talking about incorporating a Google form, so people can more easily update their sheet from their phones... just plug in book details to the form, and it will plug it into your sheet


message 772: by Rob (last edited Nov 29, 2018 06:13AM) (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Rather than going any further than this - I'll stop here. Let me know if you prefer the form method or keeping things as is before I (or any of my other fellow spreadsheet geeks) dive off into a serious time sink!

Book Entry Form

This is linked to a google sheet. Each player's entry in this form would fill a single line on a parent sheet and then we could create stat pages and other logs from that.

My sense - generating team data and individual ranking data from this would be relatively easy. Recreating individual log pages might be more hairy and might remove some of the fun page personalization part of the proesss at the expense of being able to easily add finished books while on the go.


message 773: by Soo (new)

Soo (silverlyn) | 6898 comments How would the book count if it was done as a mix of audio & print? I see where you should post it twice but does that make it count as 2 books vs 1?


message 774: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Rob wrote: "Rather than going any further than this - I'll stop here. Let me know if you prefer the form method or keeping things as is before I (or any of my other fellow spreadsheet geeks) dive off into a se..."

I can see this being useful to some people... personally, I prefer fiddling with the spreadsheet, so hopefully this can be optional...

Everything seems fine with it so far, except a few typos and the Book vs Audiobook being a Yes/No is confusing...


message 775: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Nov 29, 2018 06:21AM) (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Soo wrote: "How would the book count if it was done as a mix of audio & print? I see where you should post it twice but does that make it count as 2 books vs 1?"

Audiobooks are worth less points, but some people do whispersync for Voice or just listen in car and read at home, so reading an 800 page book and saying you listened to 300 pages and read 500 pages is important... with the spreadsheet, you'd list the same book twice with those partial page counts... we did similar in 2018 to account for the pages we read in books we DNF'd...

The important thing here is that the competition isn't which team reads the most books, but which earns the most points, which is more closely correllated to which reads the most pages... otherwise there would be a large incentive to read shorter books, and fantasy tends toward tomes... while I've been planning out my 2019 reads and signing up for things, I've seen a large number of Buddy Reads for books around 1000 pages long... moreso than last year, I think...


message 776: by Rob (last edited Nov 29, 2018 06:28AM) (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Rob wrote: "Rather than going any further than this - I'll stop here. Let me know if you prefer the form method or keeping things as is before I (or any of my other fellow spreadsheet geeks) dive o..."

Made some of those minor corrections.

Unless I can figure a way where an entry in the form can also populate an individual participant sheet (post to next blank line kinda functionality - I've done something like this over a decade ago using visual basic in excel when I was making baseball auction draftware, but that won't work in google sheets. Perhaps there is a workaround), then using the sheet on your own would probably be locked down and ore for viewing purposes.

Starting to lean towards the "if ain't broke, don't fix it" (except for scoring update modS) and letting everyone customize their sheet. I might start everyone off with a slightly more advanced basic sheet though.


message 777: by Beste (new)

Beste | 1163 comments Zaara wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "*THE BASHFUL GIF*"

:D
IKR?

But this was nothing, man...nothing. Yearlong tracker train of trash + random wordiness + pretending to be suitably kerfuffled by Anni...tis all a..."


HAhahhahahha! @Zaara you are too dangerous to meddle with:)))


message 778: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Rob wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "Rob wrote: "Rather than going any further than this - I'll stop here. Let me know if you prefer the form method or keeping things as is before I (or any of my other fellow spr..."

There could be the traditional spreadsheet for general use, and the form could be for all the people Virginie fills in the sheet for :D


message 779: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments @Rob: How about asking participants whether they want an individual sheet or not, and create personal score-sheet only for those who want them? It wouldn't be difficult at all to calculate the team points, and those who had problems updating their sheets this year can still use the form.


message 780: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Rob wrote: "I might start everyone off with a slightly more advanced basic sheet though. "

Oh, can I help with that? :D


message 781: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Virginie wrote: "@Rob: How about asking participants whether they want an individual sheet or not, and create personal score-sheet only for those who want them? It wouldn't be difficult at all to calculate the team..."

Good luck with that... I don't know anything about forms... from the sounds of it, it's hard to make a hybrid sheet that allows Forms and Manual tracking


message 782: by Choko (new)

Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I really loved the tweeks you guys did for me this year! Thank you! My spreadsheet looked great 😊


message 783: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Good luck with that... I don't know anything about forms... from the sounds of it, it's hard to make a hybrid sheet that allows Forms and Manual tracking "

Well, it's simply create additional tabs for individual scoresheet. Rob already created a spreadsheet to collect the data from the form, so it's only a matter of adding the manually entered data to the correct team score (just like we're doing right now)


message 784: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Virginie wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "Good luck with that... I don't know anything about forms... from the sounds of it, it's hard to make a hybrid sheet that allows Forms and Manual tracking "

Well, it's simply ..."


I'll just look at the finished product and try and learn how to do it, should I need to in the future...


message 785: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
I just confirmed with Scott that regular books are 125% of audiobooks, not 133%...

I'm double checking if graphic novels get this 25% bonus, after they get the 75% penalty... then graphic novels might be worth 31.25% next year...


message 786: by Saar The Book owl (new)

Saar The Book owl | 3099 comments I personally liked more the spreadsheet than the bookform that is mentioned here. I miss the overview on what and when you've read it. But that's only my thought. I'll use what will be available :)


message 787: by Charlie (new)

Charlie (charlieridley) | 5750 comments I really like the idea of being able to add books easily using the form, but I would like it if the form linked to a list or spreadsheet for me so I can easily see all the books i've read.


message 788: by Saar The Book owl (new)

Saar The Book owl | 3099 comments @Charlie: yes, indeed, and also to see what's your individual rank is and how the other teammates/teams are doing...


message 789: by [deleted user] (new)

I loved all the stats from this but I feel that it would be easier to enter data in a Google form.

Every time I added a book I looked to see all of the stats.


message 790: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
@Virginie/Rob: Niki laid down The Law... Graphic novels are still 25% of the page count points... they aren't affected by the Kindle/Paperback/Hardback bonus of 125%


message 791: by Virginie (last edited Nov 30, 2018 05:17AM) (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Rob and I are working on this. For now, the form is linked to a unique spreadsheet for all participants, and the template for the individual scoresheet is being built.

We're.. hum... 'contemplating' options to automatically bring the books you add via the form to the personal scoresheet but it's a bit tricky.

Whatever we end up doing, team scores and individual scores/ranking will be available for everyone to see :)


message 792: by [deleted user] (new)

I never realized that functionality was possible.


message 793: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "@Virginie/Rob: Niki laid down The Law... Graphic novels are still 25% of the page count points... they aren't affected by the Kindle/Paperback/Hardback bonus of 125%"

Ah, thanks. Dammit :p
(I read roughly 160 manga volumes this year.)


message 794: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
Virginie wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "@Virginie/Rob: Niki laid down The Law... Graphic novels are still 25% of the page count points... they aren't affected by the Kindle/Paperback/Hardback bonus of 125%"

Ah, tha..."


It's not many points, in the grand scheme of things... 31% vs 25%... the nerf to Bonus/Challenge points is the biggest hit... I would have only earned about 1600 points this year, if the new rules had been in effect...


message 795: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "It's not many points, in the grand scheme of things... 31% vs 25%..."

True. Probably doesn't amount to much. Reading graphic novels is not the most efficient may to get points to begin with anyway haha.


message 796: by Rob (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Virginie wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "@Virginie/Rob: Niki laid down The Law... Graphic novels are still 25% of the page count points... they aren't affected by the Kindle/Paperback/Hardback bonus of 125%"

Ah, tha..."


So much for my Ranma 1/2 Re-read.


message 797: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (new)

Timelord Iain | 35338 comments Mod
You guys dunno what you're missing out on... I logged on to my email account to verify email, like Steam likes to complain about yearly, and stumbled into the Early Access 2019 Spreadsheet... went down a rabbithole of formulas that you guys will probably never see, because they're more trouble than they're worth...


message 798: by Rob (last edited Dec 04, 2018 01:21PM) (new)

Rob (nefariasbredd) | 2418 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "You guys dunno what you're missing out on... I logged on to my email account to verify email, like Steam likes to complain about yearly, and stumbled into the Early Access 2019 Spreadsheet... went ..."

But you learned something new at least! Resume builder!


message 799: by Virginie (new)

Virginie | 6109 comments Timelord Iain (Eeyawn) wrote: "You guys dunno what you're missing out on... I logged on to my email account to verify email, like Steam likes to complain about yearly, and stumbled into the Early Access 2019 Spreadsheet... went ..."

Ah, I was wondering when you were going to come and go crazy on the spreadsheet :D


message 800: by Barry (new)

Barry (boprawira) | 1212 comments Rob wrote: "Virginie wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "@Virginie/Rob: Niki laid down The Law... Graphic novels are still 25% of the page count points... they aren't affected by the Kindle/Paperback/Hardback bonus ..."
It's always a good time for a Ranma 1/2 re-read hahaha. Now, I guess I'm gonna do that during the holiday.


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