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8: An "own voices" book
Betty wrote: "Does anyone know why Everything, Everything is considered same voice?"
I'm not sure that Everything, Everything is. The Sun Is Also a Star is "own voice" because it's about immigrant teens and Nicola Yoon is Jamaican American.
I'm not sure that Everything, Everything is. The Sun Is Also a Star is "own voice" because it's about immigrant teens and Nicola Yoon is Jamaican American.
Do you know how Everything, Everything would fit though? I don’t remember race being an issue in that book. Definitely in The Sun is Also a Star though.
Is that a requirement for "own voices"? Not just diversity with the author, but characters who represent that diversity?
Is that a requirement for "own voices"? Not just diversity with the author, but characters who represent that diversity?

from THIS ARTICLE

Is that a requirement for "own voices"? Not..."
Just the author matching the character albeit via race, ethnicity, mental illness, etc. If they'd be considered a marginalized group member, the book would count.

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I think Laura's definition in the first post sums it up nicely.



The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
I've heard that the book is excellent so I'm excited to read it.

The Hate U Give by Angie Thomas
I've heard that the book is excellent so I'm excited to read it."
I hope you enjoy it, Kathy! It was one of my favorite reads from last year.
I read Love, Hate & Other Filters by Samira Ahmed for this category and enjoyed it. I thought the author's perspective and experiences really brought a lot of life to the characters and story.
I just read Aya for this prompt. It's a graphic novel about a teenage girl living in the 1970s Ivory Coast. The author drew from her own experiences growing up in Abidjan (the setting of the book) and I don't think the book would be nearly as good without an "own voices" point of view. I want to read the whole series now!

Sophie wrote: "I'm read the first two of the Aya series and really liked them! I've been on the first place of the hold at the library for the 3rd book for two months now, I hope the person who had it before didn..."
I'm not sure my library has the rest of the series, but it might be a while before I get around to them, so maybe by then? Fingers crossed!
I'm not sure my library has the rest of the series, but it might be a while before I get around to them, so maybe by then? Fingers crossed!

We Are Okay by Nina LaCour
- Which marginalized group is the focus/background of the book?
LGBT
- Did you think it made a difference that the author is a member of the group?
Most likely


I read George by Alex Gino

- Which marginalized group is the focus/background of the book?
Transgender people
- Did you think it made a difference that the author is a member of the group?
I definitely think having grown up feeling that your body doesn't match your identity would make a huge difference in the storytelling. I have not read any books about transgender people by non-transgender authors, so I can't say for sure, but I would think it would have to make a huge difference.

The Plague of Doves by Louise Erdrich
- Which marginalized group is the focus/background of the book?
Native Americans
- Did you think it made a difference that the author is a member of the group?
I haven’t started reading it yet, but will update later in the week.



This book discusses Black American life and the Obama presidency. It would definitely lack any authenticity and authority if it weren't written by a member of that group.


The author is roughly the same age as I am so some of the references were great!

- Which marginalized group is the focus/background of the book? African American
- Did you think it made a difference that the author is a member of the group? Yes


I’ve just started this book tonight for this prompt. Hoping it’s good. I loved the prologue about the Carl Sagan quote!! So that’s a good start lol
Emma wrote: "Erika wrote: "I'm reading The Sun is also a Star by Nicola Yoon. The marginalized group is Jamaican Americans and probably also Korean Americans but the author is Jamaican herself. I think it made ..."
The Sun is Also a Star is a GREAT book for this topic!
The Sun is Also a Star is a GREAT book for this topic!
I don't think Oscar Wilde, Aristotle, or Dante would be considered marginalized. Unless they belong to a group I don't know about.
Laura wrote: "I don't think Oscar Wilde, Aristotle, or Dante would be considered marginalized. Unless they belong to a group I don't know about."
I haven't read Dorian Gray, so I don't know if the main character is gay, but if he is, then you could use it, right? Since Oscar Wilde was gay?
Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe would work because the author is gay and the main characters in the novel are gay (I think? I haven't read it yet.)
Edit: Assuming you meant Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe and not the authors Aristotle and Dante lol
I haven't read Dorian Gray, so I don't know if the main character is gay, but if he is, then you could use it, right? Since Oscar Wilde was gay?
Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe would work because the author is gay and the main characters in the novel are gay (I think? I haven't read it yet.)
Edit: Assuming you meant Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe and not the authors Aristotle and Dante lol

author:Nellie Bly|4372012]
Nellie Bly was a journalist, who in 1887, had herself committed to the Mad House (lunatic asylum on Blackwell Island, America’s first municipal mental hospital) where she was treated as a lunatic , to expose the terrible conditions of the patients there
Which marginalized group is the focus/background of the book?
The mentally disturbed at that moment in time.

Other options I have are : Stay with Me, The God of Small Things


*an own voice novel is a book about marginalised protagonists (by ethnic group, religion, sexual orientation, mental illness, etc) written by an author who shares that same identity.
Nellie Bly shared the identity and conditions of the mentally ill for 10 days
Jill wrote: "Chrissy wrote: "Personally, I think the idea of “own voices” is to listen to a marginalized person share their experience through a fictional character. Dorian Gray isn’t about the experience of be..."
(I haven't read the book, but based on what I know about it...)
It was an artificial identity... that's like if I went live in the "ghetto" to see the living conditions of poor, marginalized people for 10 days and wrote about it. I'm not saying it wasn't a good book or a valid perspective, but I'd be hesitant to call it "own voices" unless she was legit locked up for having a real mental illness (not just doing it for the story).
It's totally your challenge and your call! I just wouldn't count it for my own challenge.
(I haven't read the book, but based on what I know about it...)
It was an artificial identity... that's like if I went live in the "ghetto" to see the living conditions of poor, marginalized people for 10 days and wrote about it. I'm not saying it wasn't a good book or a valid perspective, but I'd be hesitant to call it "own voices" unless she was legit locked up for having a real mental illness (not just doing it for the story).
It's totally your challenge and your call! I just wouldn't count it for my own challenge.



oh well If something else comes up I may change it.
She did share the the position of being a sane woman being committed to a lunatic asylum, as were a lot of the other women in there. They were declared insane for various reasons , some were physically ill and some were just unable to speak English. Others were a burden to their families . Accordingly they did after a time lose their sanity
If you went to live in a getto with other non- coloured people ( i'm assuming you are not a person of colour), then if you wrote a fictional book about your experience , would that not be an own voices book?



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Girl, Interrupted by Susanna Kaysen.
Which marginalized group is the focus/background of the book?
The mentally ill. The author was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder.
Did you think it made a difference that the author is a member of the group?
Definitely, it made her voice very authentic.