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message 451: by Lisette (new)

Lisette (illusie) Great, thank you :)


message 452: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19316 comments You can mix and match, Rebecca. You just need one task from each zodiac sign for each group of twelve. It doesn't matter which task, but you cannot repeat the exact task later for another group of twelve. Hope that makes sense.


message 453: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments Rebecca wrote: "It's probably already been asked when I read over the rules I became a bit confused. I know you're allowed to read books in any order does that mean I can mix actor with stone. Like march stone wit..."

It's easy to get confused.

Each zodiac sign is split into 7 categories, month, symbol, element, North American Indian zodiac sign, stone, superhero, and actor.

From each sign, pick one category and it's corresponding task. You could read the month task for Aries, the stone task for Gemini, the actor task for Libra, and so on.


message 454: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Rachel wrote: "Umm.. I have a question. Can I read Harry Potter & the Philosopher's Stone for the twin books task? It does have two names since it's also called Sorceror's Stone but because it's such a minor chan..."

Pretty sure that is the default example :D I think you would be okay


message 455: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments In case Janice over rules me, her word is law. Just by the by.


message 456: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments It's a classic example. We in Canada couldn't abide the word "Sorcerer" for a children's book, so it had to be changed. *sarcasm* Seriously, I don't know if that was the reason for the name change, but that's what I heard when it was originally published.


message 457: by Sam (new)

Sam (ecowitch) | 2363 comments Can I use Middlemarch for March? Or does the month need to be a standalone word?


message 458: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11295 comments Janice wrote: "We in Canada couldn't abide the word "Sorcerer" for a children's book, so it had to be changed. *sarcasm*"

Well, let me tell you having finished just a couple of days ago The Witches: Salem, 1692 I am very sensitive to that kind of vocabulary right now. :)


message 459: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments Sam wrote: "Can I use Middlemarch for March? Or does the month need to be a standalone word?"

No. The word "March" must be a standalone word and not part of a compound word.


message 460: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments Sandra wrote: "Well, let me tell you having finished just a couple of days ago The Witches: Salem, 1692 I am very sensitive to that kind of vocabulary right now. :) ."

What did you think of the book, Sandra?


message 461: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11295 comments I rated it 5 stars. It is very well researched, and the topic is incredibly thrilling. I found the writing style kind if distracting, but I switched to the audio book and it was better.


message 462: by Mariab (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments I found out The Final Empire is also called Mistborn (alternative title), but I'm not sure; can someone comfirm this, please?
And also: would fit the Lord Ruler in a MC over 60?


message 463: by Cherie (last edited Jan 04, 2018 05:44PM) (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Mariab wrote: "I found out The Final Empire is also called Mistborn (alternative title), but I'm not sure; can someone comfirm this, please?
And also: would fit the Lord Ruler in a MC over 60?"


This is what it says in the book information page:

Original Title Mistborn : The Final Empire

I have not read Sanderson's books yet, so I cannot answer the character information. Maybe Sarah or Janice can.


message 464: by Mariab (last edited Jan 04, 2018 05:50PM) (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments Cherie wrote: "Mariab wrote: "I found out The Final Empire is also called Mistborn (alternative title), but I'm not sure; can someone comfirm this, please?
And also: would fit the Lord Ruler in a MC ..."


Thanks, Cherie!
But exactly that was my confusion: In some editions the title is Mitsborn, and in others is The Final Empire, but in all says: Original Title Mistborn: The Final Empire


message 465: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19316 comments I think Mistborn is the series name. I'm not sure that it's an alternate title. Someone else may have more information though.


message 466: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments I agree with Kristie that the Mistborn is the name of the series. "Mistborn" may be synonymous with the title of the first book, but it's not an alternate title.

As for the Lord Ruler's age, I'm at a loss. I haven't read the book to verify it.


message 467: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments I took it to mean that the original title was the one given to the first published book before it was determined to be book #1 in a series "called" Mistborn. Mistborn was the Title and The Expanding Empire was the Subtitle. It seems that Sanderson has messed around with his book titles as he has expanded his series from one to another.

I understand that it is your call, Janice, but your criteria says "read a book with more than one title". If the GR book info gives an original title indication, shouldn't that be sufficient for the task? If not, how do we know if a book has another title? (I didn't even know where to look for books with alternate titles until I stumbled upon a Listophia catagory for this very thing and began looking at the books).


message 468: by Sam (new)

Sam (ecowitch) | 2363 comments Janice wrote: "Sam wrote: "Can I use Middlemarch for March? Or does the month need to be a standalone word?"

No. The word "March" must be a standalone word and not part of a compound word."


I thought that would be the case but wanted to double check just in case. Thanks Janice :-)


message 469: by Rusalka, Moderator (last edited Jan 05, 2018 02:43AM) (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Janice wrote: "I agree with Kristie that the Mistborn is the name of the series. "Mistborn" may be synonymous with the title of the first book, but it's not an alternate title.

As for the Lord Ruler's age, I'm a..."


It is I'm sorry Janice. I own a physical book, the first in the Mistborn trilogy (it's a box set) by Brandon Sanderson, titled Mistborn. If you click on the editions of that book, you can see it's also sold as The Fallen Empire (with a different isbn). It counts :)

I can take a photo if I am being unclear. Been a long day.


message 470: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Anyone who argues against simplifying Australian publishing laws has obviously never partaken in a YLTO challenge. I'll suggest that to Parliament next time they have a Committee on them.


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Camilla | 2113 comments LOL Rusalka!


message 472: by Mariab (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments Rusalka wrote: "Anyone who argues against simplifying Australian publishing laws has obviously never partaken in a YLTO challenge. I'll suggest that to Parliament next time they have a Committee on them."

LOL. THAT would be a blast. The justifying of the law, explaining the YLTO criteria to the Parliament....


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Cody | 348 comments Rusalka wrote: "Anyone who argues against simplifying Australian publishing laws has obviously never partaken in a YLTO challenge. I'll suggest that to Parliament next time they have a Committee on them."

LOL


message 474: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11295 comments Rusalka wrote: "It is I'm sorry Janice. I own a physical book, the first in the Mistborn trilogy (it's a box set) by Brandon Sanderson, titled Mistborn. If you click on the editions of that book, you can see it's also sold as The Fallen Empire (with a different isbn). It counts :)"

Rusalka to the rescue!


message 475: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments Looks like I've been proven wrong. I do see an edition that is simply Mistborn, and another that is The Final Empire. It was Mistborn: The Final Empire that was throwing me off, making me think the titles were synonymous.


message 476: by Peggy (last edited Jan 05, 2018 07:35AM) (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I just bought The Good People by Hannah Kent and as I do with all new books since the challenge was announced, I immediately think if and where I can fit them in.

In the bookshop I immediately noticed the profile of a face on the cover, even though it's a bit abstract. But when I looked up the book and the cover online, I started wondering if it's not a leaf that happens to have the shape of a face. And now I'd like a ruling. Or opinions :)


message 477: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments Peggy wrote: "I just bought The Good People by Hannah Kent and as I do with all new books since the challenge was announced, I immediately think if and where I can fit them in."

If you hadn't pointed it out, I might never have noticed. I had to enlarge the cover. I think it a stylized rendering of a woman's profile in the leaf. As you say, it's a bit more abstract, but it clearly looks like a woman's face. So I will accept it.


message 478: by Mariab (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments Peggy wrote: "I just bought The Good People by Hannah Kent and as I do with all new books since the challenge was announced, I immediately think if and where I can fit them in.

In the bookshop I immediat..."

It is definitely a face


message 479: by Sandra, Moderator (new)

Sandra (sanlema) | 11295 comments That cover is beautiful.


message 480: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Thanks Janice! I had to enlarge it too on GR, but it's much more obvious when you have the actual book in hand.

I agree Sandra!


message 481: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11668 comments I intend to use that book for the challenge aswell Peggy. It is available as a digital download from my library with this cover The Good People by Hannah Kent .

Still a good cover - I love the sky - but I think I prefer your cover.


message 482: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments What task will you use it for Margo? I could only think of the 'profile on cover' task. Oh, is it for the cloud-task?


message 483: by Margo (new)

Margo | 11668 comments I was thinking Scorpio, ANIMAL: snake
Australia is home to some of the world’s most deadliest snakes. Read a book where the majority of it is set in Australia, or written by an Australian author.

Can't think of any other task my cover meets.


message 484: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19316 comments I didn't realize Hannah Kent was Australian. It's funny, when I first starting looking for books, I thought that was going to be a difficult task. Now, I keep finding more and more books that fit and I think the difficult part will be choosing which to read.


message 485: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments I was just about to say the book is set in Ireland, then I read Kristie's post.

I guess your cover could work for the cloud task too?


message 486: by Jannene (new)

Jannene | 3124 comments Kristie wrote: "I didn't realize Hannah Kent was Australian. It's funny, when I first starting looking for books, I thought that was going to be a difficult task. Now, I keep finding more and more books that fit a..."

I am finding the months and movie stars are the hardest. If you choose the murder by month series you are set. However, I didn’t want to start a new series and I challenged myself to read a lot of my physical books.


message 487: by Peggy (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Me too Jannene. But I can't read more than 36 for this challenge anyway, so I'm not going to worry about those. I do have some months covered though, with the Hannah Swensen series.


message 488: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19316 comments I found a few that fit those tasks that I really want to read. But, if I'm not thrilled with some my options that's ok too. I also won't be able to finish all the tasks, so I'll leave those for last.


message 489: by Cherie (new)

Cherie (crobins0) | 21536 comments Kristie wrote: "I didn't realize Hannah Kent was Australian. It's funny, when I first starting looking for books, I thought that was going to be a difficult task. Now, I keep finding more and more books that fit a..."

I did not realize that she was an Australian author either.
I joined the Aussie Reader's 2018 Aussie Author's challenge and I had to gopher for women authors and I do not think her name came up.


message 490: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments We're sneaky. We get around everywhere, where you least expect us. Triksty Aussies.

I'm only half joking. We took a boat tour in Tobago when were were there last year for a day. There were 10 of us on the boat. 6 of us were Australians. I have never met anyone else who had been to Tobago, some don't even know it existed, and there were 4 other sneaky Aussies (I can't claim I didn't know Lexx would be there).


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Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Janice wrote: "Looks like I've been proven wrong. I do see an edition that is simply Mistborn, and another that is The Final Empire. It was Mistborn: The Final Empire tha..."

Makes complete sense, I would have too. It was only luck that I rearranged that bookshelf the other day and noticed for the first time we owned the trilogy.


message 492: by Mariab (new)

Mariab | 3059 comments Rusalka wrote: "Janice wrote: "Looks like I've been proven wrong. I do see an edition that is simply Mistborn, and another that is The Final Empire. It was [book:Mistborn: The Final Empi..."

Yes, hence my doubts, but thanks, Rusalka, you saved me a search


message 493: by Janice, Moderator (new)

Janice (jamasc) | 60069 comments I remember reading that Hannah Kent was Australian when I read Burial Rites, I was blown away at the depth with which she described Iceland being that she was across the globe.

Burial Rites would work for a profile cover too.


message 494: by Beth (last edited Jan 05, 2018 09:40PM) (new)

Beth (eparks4232) | 2562 comments Jannene wrote: "I'm finding movie stars and months to be the hardest."

I just read Stay Close by Harlan Coben without knowing where I would put it, and it turns out it takes place over only a few days in February. I think I may end up discovering month books as I go. I am realizing that crime novels may be good for this, since they sometimes wrap up quickly.


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Sarah | 18550 comments Mariab wrote: "I found out The Final Empire is also called Mistborn (alternative title), but I'm not sure; can someone comfirm this, please?
And also: would fit the Lord Ruler in a MC over 60?"


You for alternative title. I always referred to it as mistborn at first. As for Lord Ruler, whilst old, he isn't a main character I wouldn't have thought - he isn't in it all that much.


message 496: by Lisette (new)

Lisette (illusie) May I use this book for "Read a book with a significant amount of water on the cover"?
Meriel’s Guide to Unpredictable Seals by Rosemary Carr


message 497: by Rusalka, Moderator (new)

Rusalka (rusalkii) | 19221 comments Janice wrote: "I remember reading that Hannah Kent was Australian when I read Burial Rites, I was blown away at the depth with which she described Iceland being that she was across the globe.

Bur..."


She was a PhD student in creative writing in Adelaide when she wrote Burial Rites. Overachiever.


message 498: by Kristie, Moderator (new)

Kristie | 19316 comments Thanks for the February task suggestion, Beth. I have that one on my TBR already.


message 499: by Lilisa (new)

Lilisa | 2770 comments For Superhero - Cannonball (book about American Civil War or about the Napoleonic War), would Napoleon: A Life fit? It sounds like it focuses quite a bit on his war years. The author traveled to 53 of the 60 battle sites as it was doing his research - interesting.


message 500: by Peggy (last edited Jan 06, 2018 07:10AM) (new)

Peggy (pebbles84) | 15868 comments Sarah wrote: "Mariab wrote: "I found out The Final Empire is also called Mistborn (alternative title), but I'm not sure; can someone comfirm this, please?
And also: would fit the Lord Ruler in a MC ..."


I agree with Sarah, I don't think he was an MC in the book. Vin and Kelsier for example yes, the Lord Ruler no.


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