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Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments Please add the ebook edition, isbn13 = 9780698139800 of Shattering the Ley and combine. Book cover, description, etc. available on publisher's page at http://www.penguin.com/book/shatterin...


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Diego Martins (dmars) | 4 comments Please could anyone combine these books for me? I tried, but all links 'combine' goes to the page of the author.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...


message 4: by Melaslithos (new)

Melaslithos | 1360 comments #3 Done.

Only librarians and the authors can combine books, wich explains why you couldn't do it.

Please do not hesitate to post here if you have other books to combine.


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Clarissa Cartharn | 6 comments Could anyone please update an ASIN for me?

I changed a book title and would like to update the ASIN to the current title. I also would like to combine the previous book to the new one.

The book in question is "Woodsmen" and now re-titled as "Claimed."

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...


message 6: by Melaslithos (new)

Melaslithos | 1360 comments #5 Done.

But I see two books titles "Claimed". Should they be merged, or are they different editions?


message 7: by Clarissa (last edited Jul 06, 2014 02:06AM) (new)

Clarissa Cartharn | 6 comments Thanks Melissa

They are the same. Yes if you can merge them, it would be great.


message 8: by Melaslithos (new)

Melaslithos | 1360 comments @Clarissa BTW, if you want to set the new edition as default, please follow the instructions here:
https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/3...


message 9: by Clarissa (new)

Clarissa Cartharn | 6 comments Melaslithos wrote: "#5 Done.

But I see two books titles "Claimed". Should they be merged, or are they different editions?"


Hi Melissa

My issue was I can't find "Claimed" on a general search because it's ASIN clashed with "Woodsmen". I would like to update its ASIN, if that is possible, since it has the same one as "Woodsmen."


message 10: by Melaslithos (new)

Melaslithos | 1360 comments Clarissa wrote: "Melaslithos wrote: "#5 Done.

But I see two books titles "Claimed". Should they be merged, or are they different editions?"

Hi Melissa

My issue was I can't find "Claimed" on a general search beca..."


Hi,
What is did was merge the two books called "Claimed". Then combines "Claimed" with "Woodsmen".

At the same time, I deleted the ASIN from "Woodsmen" and gave it to "Claimed".

Is that what you wanted?


message 11: by Clarissa (new)

Clarissa Cartharn | 6 comments Melaslithos wrote: "Clarissa wrote: "Melaslithos wrote: "#5 Done.

But I see two books titles "Claimed". Should they be merged, or are they different editions?"

Hi Melissa

My issue was I can't find "Claimed" on a ge..."



Ok, finally managed to set the new one as primary edition.

Thank you so much Melissa. You're a gem!!


Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments Are you allowed to move asin from an older database record to a newer database record? Might want to ask Ruvka or the other librarians.

(Nothing to do with my original post; I just ran across this because was following thread.)


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Melaslithos | 1360 comments Well, I thought that the new title was propably the book that people will look for the most in the future, so I thought it would be easier if it was the one with the ASIN. Alos, since the books were combined I didn't thought it would matter.

But if it is not allowed, sorry for the change, and I am ready to change it back.


message 14: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Jul 06, 2014 10:28AM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments Melaslithos wrote: "Well, I thought that the new title was propably the book that people will look for the most in the future, so I thought it would be easier if it was the one with the ASIN. Alos, since the books wer..."

I'm not official (or even still a librarian) but almost always any moving of isbn/asin information from one work or edition to another needs a very durn good reason other than "well that's the way booksellers currently have it on the product pages and authors get to change their product pages at will" [and reason should be put in a librarians note so the change doesn't get flagged or revoked back and forth although not required].

Librarian usual policies say: A new book title or new book cover is not reason enough to move. An edition no longer being for sale is not reason enough to move (gr has book data pages of all editions unlike bookseller sites that have book product pages of edition currently for sale). A completely wrong the original edition never used it but someone made a typo or the really weird occasions a publisher accidentally duplicated an isbn on two completely different works are good enough reasons to move (but should still have a librarian note so no one questions). Not uncommon that someone tried to shove an isbn13 number in the isbn10 field and last three digits got chopped off and you have to correct (usually indicated by the isbn10 starting with 978) and that's a valid reason for changing.

Most of the discussions about the policy are going to be on the alternate cover edition and "help changing my or I have a new book cover" threads. Ditto in the librarian manual where it talks about new editions and alternate cover editions. It is appropriate to add a librarian note (and to repeat in the book description) that the edition also uses that asin number. And, yes, it does cause issues for the purchase links when not moved but it's not goodreads responsibility that authors fail to obtain new isbn/asin for new editions like they are supposed to.

You might want to start a separate thread asking about moving the asin (in case no one realizes the "add an ebook edition – now been added" discussion has a librarian policy issue) to get a more official or consensus answer.

When bookcovers or asin/isbn info are changed or moved on an edition, you risk vandalizing member book catalogs who already owned/read/shelved the older edition in favor of advertising a product version that goodreads readers might never put in their book catalogs. Some goodreads members could care less which edition they shelve and quite happily shelve whichever edition shows up in search results, on author pages, series info, group BOTM shelves or wherever (and authors, unlike librarians, can choose to set which edition that is —author should see author FAQ #4 for directions if they want to pick which edition is the primary/default/featured). Other members are incredibly picky about specific editions.

The really big issue is just that goodreads database could care less what's for sale or what readers looking to buy will be searching for; it just keeps all editions of all books and members can make use of (think more library than bookstore). Authors or librarians are free to note when an edition is out of print or no longer available and are more than welcome to add their new editions; just usually it's not allowed to "vandalize" the older published editions.


message 15: by Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) (last edited Jul 06, 2014 10:32AM) (new)

Debbie's Spurts (D.A.) | 6325 comments Ugh...sorry that ran on so long. Just something that obviously used to irritate me when I was dealing with librarian edits. (I am one of those readers that wanted to shelve specific editions and got angered when someone changed on me or an asin I used to search for to get to that specific edition suddenly went to a bookcover I never shelved or read.)


message 16: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Please do not change or remove valid ISBNs or ASINs on existing editions. The first edition listed in the Goodreads database keeps the ASIN or ISBN. (The very, very rare exceptions should ONLY be made by Goodreads staff members.)


message 17: by Melaslithos (new)

Melaslithos | 1360 comments OK, I'll know for next time.


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