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Hazel wrote: "Shannon wrote: "How did you know I needed a Sean Bean fix. "

Its a day ending in Y."

Ahahahahaha!

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Hazel wrote: "I've been told recently that the UK gets the prize for most creative swearing. I don't think any sort of quantitative or qualitative study has actually been done on the difference in amount and quality of swearing across the different regions of the UK. "

You're right. We should look at the evidence. A shame studies have not been done. ;)

At the risk of not being politically correct, I've been told I swear rather creatively; I now know that must be my English and Welsh ancestry.

;)

[Shanna]

Hazel wrote: "for the girls (and travis). Sean Bean as Sharpe, swearing like... well like a yorkshireman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjN8G2...

and this homage to the bean is really quite ..."

Yep typecast

Director- I need a guy to die in the movie in a graphic horrible torturous way
Casting director- May I suggest Sean Bean...

[Hazel]

the celtic language informed a large amount of our swearing. For example the word cunt is a celtic word, in fact the celtic word for vagina. I personally find it less offensive than the word vagina, because cunt is a word specifically for the female genitals, it wasn't an analogy or anything like that, it simply meant what it meant, whereas vagina is latin, and means "sheath for my sword".

I got kudos for one of my rant posts elsewhere for getting "rectal warts of the most malodorous kind" into the rant. It was about someone who had broken into a friends house, stolen their stuff, including their laptop, and then signed into their facebook and started posting child porn shit on it. I feel they deserved the full description I gave them.

[Hazel]

Shanna wrote: "Director- I need a guy to die in the movie in a graphic horrible torturous way
Casting director- May I suggest Sean Bean... "

well, if your good at something...

[cerebus]

Hazel wrote: "I've been told recently that the UK gets the prize for most creative swearing. I don't think any sort of quantitative or qualitative study has actually been done on the difference in amount and quality of swearing across the different regions of the UK..."
I'm biased but I'd say the Irish do it better :)

[Hazel]

Cerebus wrote: "Hazel wrote: "I've been told recently that the UK gets the prize for most creative swearing. I don't think any sort of quantitative or qualitative study has actually been done on the difference in ..."

only cos you can no doubt do it in irish too... they do teach that again at school now don't they? I know the scots have started teaching gaelic, and of course the welsh teach welsh.

[cerebus]

Hazel wrote: "only cos you can no doubt do it in irish too... they do teach that again at school now don't they? I know the scots have started teaching gaelic, and of course the welsh teach welsh. ."
Yeah, it's taught in school....it's still not as commonly spoken as Welsh is in Wales.

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Cerebus wrote: "Hazel wrote: "only cos you can no doubt do it in irish too... they do teach that again at school now don't they? I know the scots have started teaching gaelic, and of course the welsh teach welsh. ..."

I'm obviously no expert on current relations in Ireland, Wales and Scotland, but I'm so happy to learn from you guys that those languages are being taught and spoken.

Maybe because of the history of my own country, at times when they (Prussia, Russia and Austria) wanted to eradicate the Polish culture by banning our language and making us (not me, of course, I would have to be considered a vampire by now if I lived through those events) speak and study in their languages only, and yet they couldn't submit my nation, I see any native language as a source of pride and cultural survival.

[cerebus]

Lila wrote: "Maybe because of the history of my own country, at times when they (Prussia, Russia and Austria) wanted to eradicate the Polish culture by banning our language and making us (not me, of course, I would have to be considered a vampire by now if I lived through those events) speak and study in their languages only, and yet they couldn't submit my nation, I see any native language as a source of pride and cultural survival. "
It was the same in Ireland, I think it's a standard tactic of any occupying power to try and eradicate the native language and culture.....

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Cerebus wrote: "Lila wrote: "Maybe because of the history of my own country, at times when they (Prussia, Russia and Austria) wanted to eradicate the Polish culture by banning our language and making us (not me, o..."

I really need to learn more about Ireland and the Irish history (same with Wales). No offense to my English friends and such, but England really did a lot of nasty s&%t to both Ireland and Wales.

And not to return to that dreaded religion topic, but they really pulled some nasty shit too to convert the heretics. But yeah, language, culture and books go first.

[cerebus]

Lila wrote: "I really need to learn more about Ireland and the Irish history (same with Wales). No offense to my English friends and such, but England really did a lot of nasty s&%t to both Ireland and Wales."
Plenty of other countries did the same, the Dutch, French, Spanish, Belgian, Portugese, Italian all occupied other countries and didn't exactly do them any favours....

Lila wrote: "And not to return to that dreaded religion topic, but they really pulled some nasty shit too to convert the heretics. But yeah, language, culture and books go first. "
Religion is definitely part of it, and in many cases it was the certainty that god was on their side that gave the occupiers the 'permission' they needed to do whatever they want, after all they were doing god's work and if a few heathens were inconvenienced along the way then it was what god wanted....

[Shanna]

Lila wrote: "Cerebus wrote: "Hazel wrote: "only cos you can no doubt do it in irish too... they do teach that again at school now don't they? I know the scots have started teaching gaelic, and of course the wel..."

One branch of my family tree emmigrated to Australia from Poland during this time..

[cerebus]

Shanna wrote: "One branch of my family tree emmigrated to Australia from Poland during this time.. "
There's worse places in the world to end up :)

[Shanna]

Cerebus wrote: "Shanna wrote: "One branch of my family tree emmigrated to Australia from Poland during this time.. "
There's worse places in the world to end up :)"

This is true.
Ok so at the moment here in Mebourne it's effing freezing and raining generally it's lovely.

I would love to see your corner of the world Ireland, England, Wales and Scotland(another tree branch) have always been a dream of mine...

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Shanna wrote: "This is true.
Ok so at the moment here in Mebourne it's effing freezing and raining generally it's lovely."
That's standard weather for Melbourne :)

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Shanna wrote: "Lila wrote: "Cerebus wrote: "Hazel wrote: "only cos you can no doubt do it in irish too... they do teach that again at school now don't they? I know the scots have started teaching gaelic, and of c..."

Oh, Australia...how I would love to go there.

Do you know any stories told from that time. I'm just curious because from experience I know that the old folks don't always like to talk about these things (it maybe brings up too painful memories?).

[Shanna]

Cerebus wrote: "Shanna wrote: "This is true.
Ok so at the moment here in Mebourne it's effing freezing and raining generally it's lovely."
That's standard weather for Melbourne :)"

Again an undeniable truth.. we have a saying here "Don't like the weather? (in Melbourne), wait five minutes" It's not working :( far more accurate in summer.

[Sophie]

Religion holds back science. I would, hands down, no questions asked, get rid of religion.

[Shanna]

Lila wrote: "Do you know any stories told from that time. I'm just curious because from experience I know that the old folks don't always like to talk about these things (it maybe brings up too painful memories?). "

All the oldies have passed, my Mum has a family tree book though, if I remember it correctly largely centres on settling in Australia may have some stories I'll borrow it and let you know.

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Shanna wrote: "Lila wrote: "Do you know any stories told from that time. I'm just curious because from experience I know that the old folks don't always like to talk about these things (it maybe brings up too pai..."

Thanks, Shanna. That would be so awesome, of course only if it's not a big hassle or anything.

[Shanna]

Lila wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Lila wrote: "Do you know any stories told from that time. I'm just curious because from experience I know that the old folks don't always like to talk about these things (it maybe br..."

No problem my brother is babysitting tonight while I go to class, he'll pick it up on his way.

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Thank you bunches :)

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Shanna wrote: "we have a saying here "Don't like the weather? (in Melbourne), wait five minutes" It's not working :( far more accurate in summer. "

We have the same saying in New England.

[Shanna]

so not unique then?

[Travis]

Shannon wrote: "Shanna wrote: "we have a saying here "Don't like the weather? (in Melbourne), wait five minutes" It's not working :( far more accurate in summer. "

We have the same saying in New England."

Hey! A fellow New Englander.
Here I thought everyone on this thread was from Australia or the UK.

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I'm not exactly New England, but close, end of North Fork, L. I.
I take the ferry to Foxwoods once in a while (I know, gambling is not a Christian thing to do ;-) ).

[Travis]

Lila wrote: "I'm not exactly New England, but close, end of North Fork, L. I.
I take the ferry to Foxwoods once in a while (I know, gambling is not a Christian thing to do ;-) )."

I'm sure most christians say a prayer before they turn over that last card in Texas hold 'em.

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Travis wrote: "Lila wrote: "I'm not exactly New England, but close, end of North Fork, L. I.
I take the ferry to Foxwoods once in a while (I know, gambling is not a Christian thing to do ;-) )."

I'm sure most ..."
LMAO, but you know I wouldn't be surprised I've bit. Personally I don't think I'm sinning, but I most certainly won't pray either. Unless, it's to ask to walk away from the table without falling down :)

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Travis wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Shanna wrote: "we have a saying here "Don't like the weather? (in Melbourne), wait five minutes" It's not working :( far more accurate in summer. "

We have the same saying in New E..."

No way!! This must be why you're so understanding of my fondness for Sean Bean. Perhaps it's a UK/New England/Australia thing!

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Lila wrote: "I'm not exactly New England, but close, end of North Fork, L. I.
I take the ferry to Foxwoods once in a while (I know, gambling is not a Christian thing to do ;-) )."

This definitely doesn't count, this week, Lila. Unless you, like the rest of us New Englanders, have shed a tear or two at the prospect of Tim Thomas sitting out next year.

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Shannon wrote: "Lila wrote: "I'm not exactly New England, but close, end of North Fork, L. I.
I take the ferry to Foxwoods once in a while (I know, gambling is not a Christian thing to do ;-) )."

This definitel..."

That's slightly embarrassing even on goodreads, but I'm such a nerd that I have no clue who Tim Thomas is (feel free to virtually smack me on the head) and all I'm living on this week us Book Expo in NYC. On my way from the city now. I swear I would set up a tent by the Javits center if they let me.

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Lila wrote: "That's slightly embarrassing even on goodreads, but I'm such a nerd that I have no clue who Tim Thomas is (feel free to virtually smack me on the head) and all I'm living on this week us Book Expo in NYC. "

:o

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Lila wrote: "That's slightly embarrassing even on goodreads, but I'm such a nerd that I have no clue who Tim Thomas is (feel free to virtually smack me on the head) and all I'm living on this week us Book Expo in NYC. On my way from the city now. I swear I would set up a tent by the Javits center if they let me. "

I ...

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Lila wrote: "That's slightly embarrassing even on goodreads, but I'm such a nerd that I have no clue who Tim Thomas is (feel free to virtually smack me on the head) and all I'm living on this week us Book Expo in NYC. On my way from the city now. I swear I would set up a tent by the Javits center if they let me. "

Okay, Lila. I think I've recovered ....

If you were crying with us, I was going to take it upon myself to make you an honorary New Englander. I expected you to tell me you were doing a happy dance instead of crying. Grrr....

But, this ....

;)

Tim Thomas is the goalie for the Boston Bruins. Men's ice hockey. And, it must be said ... he's one of THE best goalies of all time and the Bruins are THE best team, speaking as a New Englander.

What makes him stand out as a goalie? He's very aggressive. He often comes way up front. It's risky. Sometimes it's genius. Sometimes he misses shots on goal. That's the risk involved in being that aggressive.

I'll try and paste a picture; however, I've never done this on Goodreads, so ....

Nope ... didn't work.

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Shannon wrote: "Lila wrote: "That's slightly embarrassing even on goodreads, but I'm such a nerd that I have no clue who Tim Thomas is (feel free to virtually smack me on the head) and all I'm living on this week ..."

This warrants the LMFAO! Just don't tell my husband how clueless I am, since he is a New Englander thr ou gh and through (Stoughton, MA) and a die-hard fan of any New England sports team (football, baseball, hockey). . I suppose that 'la la land' I thought I occasionally visited is starting to take over.

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Love your comments though, Shannon. I didn't think I was going to laugh tonight after coming back from the Expo to the mundane reality of of this little, where-the-sun-don't-shine place I live in. Thx :-)

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Lila wrote: "This warrants the LMFAO! Just don't tell my husband how clueless I am, since he is a New Englander thr ou gh and through (Stoughton, MA) and a die-hard fan of any New England sports team (football, baseball, hockey). . I suppose that 'la la land' I thought I occasionally visited is starting to take over. "

Have mercy, Lila! Your husband is a New Englander, from Stoughton, MA!

:o

We need to keep this a secret, for sure. I mean .... Lila, there are no words!

I'm not much for keeping secrets, but this needs to be kept between us ... and who knows who else is reading this thread. Hopefully your husband won't.

It was bad enough that we lost to the Capitals. The Capitals, Lila! Then, Thomas said he's sitting out the coming season. The humanity! To discover you don't know who Tim Thomas is, well, Lila, that could well throw your husband into deep despair.

N-E-V-E-R admit to this!

;)

[Travis]

Shannon wrote: "Lila wrote: "This warrants the LMFAO! Just don't tell my husband how clueless I am, since he is a New Englander thr ou gh and through (Stoughton, MA) and a die-hard fan of any New England sports te..."

Well, you got my attention mentioning New England, but lost it when you started talking sports.

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Travis wrote: "Well, you got my attention mentioning New England, but lost it when you started talking sports. "

Oh, Travis ....

:o

Give me a second or two to get past this ....

One Mississippi ...

Two Mississippi ...

Thre ....

Okay.

What wicked cool things do you want to talk about regarding New England? We've been having some wicked weather. A wicked lot of rain. Of course, we had next to no snow this winter, which was wicked awesome ... unless you ski or snowshoe.

Stress on wicked ....

For those of you who don't know, people from New England supposedly say "wicked" a lot. (Let's not go into the possible psychological reasons for that.)

Hmmm..... The peonies are out. School is about to get out. The leaves are finally out. It took forever this year. I think it had to do with lack of snow and rain earlier. Ummm.... Favorite New England state? Cabot cheese? Kettle corn? Ocean or mountains? Do you believe in Champ? ;)

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Fairs, Travis? Have you been to any New England fairs? The Tunbridge World's Fair? I've actually never been. York! York's Animal Kingdom? Salt water taffy being pulled in the window of that restaurant in York. What is the name of that restaurant? Does it start with a W? Hold on. Going to Google it ... A W! It's The Goldenrod. Do you have a favorite lighthouse? Museum? Hmmm.... Politics? People are wondering if New Hampshire is going to go for the republicans or democrats. Have you ever seen a moose? I've only seen one. Climbed a New England mountain or driven to the top? Seen a bald eagle. They're coming back here, believe it or not.

I'm running out of things, though. Might need to go back to the Bruins!

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Heck ....

Most importantly, do you think Sean Bean has ever been to New England?

Sigh ....

(No, I've not been to The Avengers yet. But, it's still in our theaters.)

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Shannon wrote: "Lila wrote: "This warrants the LMFAO! Just don't tell my husband how clueless I am, since he is a New Englander thr ou gh and through (Stoughton, MA) and a die-hard fan of any New England sports te..."

I swear, Shannon, you're a riot!

And to top it all off, now you're making me wonder about my marriage's compatibility. As it's been shown here, I'm completely ignorant as far as my husband's teams go and he, on the other hand wouldn't visit a book site such as Goodreads unless gravely threatened. Needless to say, he is not a reader.*scratching head*

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Balance in all things, Lila. Balance in all things. He has the sports angle covered; you have all things literary. Perfect balance, if you look at it from the standpoint of a couple.

But, as I said, ...

Don't ever, E-V-E-R, mention that you didn't know that Tim Thomas is the goalie of the Bruins. Not ever!

At least you know the Bruins were a hockey team ... right .... I threw that in my original answer to you ... not knowing if you knew much about sports. But, if your husband is into New England teams, you knew that. Right ...?

Don't answer if you didn't. I might have nightmares tonight if you didn't know. And, your husband might check this site someday. You just never know.

No, I'm sure you knew. Phew!

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Shannon wrote: "Balance in all things, Lila. Balance in all things. He has the sports angle covered; you have all things literary. Perfect balance, if you look at it from the standpoint of a couple.

But, as I ..."



Here's the thing: I knew the Bruins were a team, I didn't know it was hockey. I didn't know because I don't watch TV (sports with him or otherwise), and, on top of everything else, he's agnostic at best. Wha..?

But no nightmares, ok? I have heard of the Bruins...

[Raisa]

I respect people whether thy are religious or not. One cannot exist without the other. One is not superior to the other.

[Gary]

Raisa wrote: "One cannot exist without the other."

That sentiment has been raised before Raisa, can you explain why you believe this to be true?

[Travis]

Shannon wrote: "Fairs, Travis? Have you been to any New England fairs? The Tunbridge World's Fair? I've actually never been. York! York's Animal Kingdom? Salt water taffy being pulled in the window of that r..."

Hockey...that's the one where you hit a little black thing with a stick, right?
and we have had enough trouble talking religion and you want to bring up politics...yikes, way to live dangerously.

[Gary]

Travis wrote: "we have had enough trouble talking religion and you want to bring up politics...yikes, way to live dangerously."

Well to be fair religion and politics are so similar that several constitutions have been written to specifically divide them.

In both you tend to have large groups of people who tend to unquestionably believe the ideology they inherited from their family or their locality, and the authority of the representatives espousing that authority is rarely questioned while opposing views are automatically attacked with derision based in often extremely distorted parodies of the opposing ideology.

Also, despite the former seeming to be the majority, the most important people to politicians, and indeed a functioning democracy, are the "swing" voters, the ones who do not believe, but instead question and make up their minds based on the merits of policy not on the assumptions of culture or the self-granted authority of a few demagogues.

How's that for living dangerously :-D

[Lillian]

I agree with what a lot of people here are saying which is that I would never want to live in a world without either. Its an interesting question...but I believe that there is an all powerful God and that we were put on this earth to figure it out aka science. I don't understand people who say that you must believe in one or the other...I think that the amazing things that science discovers is proof of a God, not proof that there isn't one.