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[Hazel]

Johndoe wrote: "Maria wrote: ""Unborn Children can be infected because their mother has AIDS. So no, it doesn't require homosexual relationships or drugs to spread."

Johndoe, of course it doesn't require that ty..."

re torte retort, I always preferred "if god made man from dust, why is there still dust?" ;P

[Hazel]

Breanna wrote: "its bad that you dont believe in god. You need some jesus in your life. i need to give you a bible."

its bad that you dont believe in Vishnu. You need some shiva in your life. i need to give you the Vedas.

its bad that you dont believe in Odin. You need some Frigga in your life. i need to give you the Eddas.

its bad that you dont believe in Oludumaré. You need some Orixas in your life. i need to give you a proper oral tradition.

its bad that you dont believe in Allah. You need some Mohammed in your life. i need to give you a Koran.

its bad that you dont believe in the Kami. You need some Tenjin in your life. i need to give you the Kojiki.

its bad that you dont believe in the Tao. You need some Lao tsu in your life. i need to give you a Tao Te Ching.

its bad that you dont believe in Ahura Mazda. You need some Zoroaster in your life. i need to give you The Avesta.

[Old-Barbarossa]

Or Principia Discordia, Or, How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her: The Magnum Opiate of Malaclypse the Younger

[Hazel]

Have you ever watched "The Number 23", Barbar? I freaked friends out for a couple of days after they watched it by making everything link to the number 23.

Old barbarossa = 13 letters, two components to name, so times 13 by 2 = 26, 1 syllable in old, 4 in barbarossa, subtract 1 from 4 = 3, then subtract that from 26 = 23 ;P

[Old-Barbarossa]

And 2+3=5
fnord

[Hazel]

Old-Barbarossa wrote: "And 2+3=5
fnord"

:O you're breaking my mind, man!!

[aPriL does feral sometimes]

Damn it, when you who i think of as the 'smart ones' stop being serious you are not only smarter, you're all funnier than everybody too. Now I'm starting to commit the sins of jealousy and envy. It's a good thing I'm an unbeliever otherwise I'd be on my knees for hours confessing all my bad thoughts today.

[Old-Barbarossa]

April the Cheshire Meow wrote: "It's a good thing I'm an unbeliever otherwise I'd be on my knees for hours..."

After all the sex abuse cases related to believers...let's just stop there...

[Hazel]

Old-Barbarossa wrote: "April the Cheshire Meow wrote: "It's a good thing I'm an unbeliever otherwise I'd be on my knees for hours..."

After all the sex abuse cases related to believers...let's just stop there..."

forgive me father, for what I'm about to do...

[Shanna]

Breanna wrote: "well at lease i believe in god i love god not the devil"

Neither exist.

[Hazel]

Shanna wrote: "Breanna wrote: "well at lease i believe in god i love god not the devil"

Neither exist."

Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.

[Old-Barbarossa]

Han is the man...

[Old-Barbarossa]

Sorry...quiet night and a large glass of Old Pulteney...all is right with the world...

[Hazel]

and the bird is the word...

[Shanna]

Johndoe wrote: "Old Barbarossa, we can still play bible trivia:
Whose daughters got their father drunk and raped him in the night as to bear children?


Hint: It was a righteous man ;-)"

Was it the same man who offered those same daughters to the mob to rape so they didn't touch the ANGELS that visited him?

[cHriS]

Cerebus wrote: "cs wrote: "I don't agree because it was a loaded question. A bit like asking me if I would like my left foot shot off or my right one."
It was not a loaded question at all.

If you accept that cond..."

It is up to each person to do what they think is right. If they think that to use contraception to prevent new human beings from coming into existence is wrong they will not use comdoms regardless of aids.

[[deleted user]]

Zachary wrote: "@ APRIL ARE YOU ON CRACK BICTH"

Okay. Hold on.

Zachary and Y_A_I_R ...

I don't appreciate people making nasty comments about God either, specifically using swear words about God. (Of course, I don't appreciate people making nasty comments about other people.)

However, ....

If you're religious, ... YAIR, if you're Catholic, ....

Do you truly think the God you believe in would want you treating people this way and "speaking" this way? YAIR, does Jesus swear at people and make nasty comments to people in the gospels?

The Jesus I read about in the gospels and the Jesus I believe in led by example. And .... When he spoke to the apostles about going forth and spreading the word, I believe he said, if a town didn't accept them, they were to leave and shake the dirt from their feet. He didn't say to call the people names and say they were on crack.

So ....

[Old-Barbarossa]

But the chap did say:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household."

Which, while not actually sweary, is fairly in yer face for a prince of peace.

[cHriS]

Cerebus wrote: "cs wrote: "If one believes it is right to use contraception then they are not wrong if they use it, regardless of what the churches view is."
So you can cherry pick the bits of your religion you ag..."

Read my comment again and this time don't take it out of context.

[cHriS]

Cerebus wrote: "cs wrote: "But even though you are not able to give numbers to Johndoe's previous statement, I will elaborate a bit."
Why would I have to give a number when I said I was making no claims on the siz..."

What sort of things do you think Catholics watch on tv that you don't?

[Old-Barbarossa]

cs wrote: "What sort of things do you think Catholics watch on tv that you don't? "

The Angelus on RTE1 at 6pm...seems popular enough to be broadcast.
Don't watch it myself though and can't see many recording it and watching a week's worth in one go...like Big Bang Theory.

[Shanna]

cs wrote: "It is up to each person to do what they think is right. If they think that to use contraception to prevent new human beings from coming into existence is wrong they will not use comdoms regardless of aids."

D'ohh

[Hazel]

Shanna wrote: "cs wrote: "It is up to each person to do what they think is right. If they think that to use contraception to prevent new human beings from coming into existence is wrong they will not use comdoms regardless of aids."

D'ohh "

I see your d'ohh, and raise you a *headdesk*

[Hazel]

Oh, and happy star wars day, all :D

[[deleted user]]

Old-Barbarossa wrote: "But the chap did say:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against ..."

Truthfully, I'd forgotten that verse. It is there, though. You're right. I don't know how to explain that verse. I know I've heard people explain it by saying it was just a metaphor, etc.... But, I don't know what to think about it.

Having said that, ....

The vast majority of the lessons credited to Jesus do not show him saying things like, "Yo, u on crack B****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

In addition, my point wasn't to convert the masses. I was hoping people who claim to believe in God would take a moment to pause and question their actions.

Of course, I responded prior to getting to the end. I didn't realize the children had already signed off.

Finally, could someone educate me on "trolls" ... new to texting and this site and don't know certain things ...

[Hazel]

troll: one who posts inflammatory remarks with the intent to provoke and insult originally restricted to internet posts, but the term has been extended to other mediums,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(I...

sometimes it can be used for humourous ends, like Rowan Atkinson as Blackadder in this clip, in which the art of trolling is shown before it was even called trolling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on9U_t...


but its usually just people being wankers.

[aPriL does feral sometimes]

Here is an explanatory link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(I...

I'm rarely so organized as to bother looking things up! I had two cups of coffee today and I guess it's fixed me up.

[Old-Barbarossa]

"wankers": see message 3526 above...

[Shanna]

Hazel wrote: "Oh, and happy star wars day, all :D"

And May the fourth be with you.

[Shanna]

Hazel wrote: "Shanna wrote: "I see your d'ohh, and raise you a *headdesk* "

Face palm and long sigh....

[Hazel]

Shanna wrote: "Hazel wrote: "Shanna wrote: "I see your d'ohh, and raise you a *headdesk* "

Face palm and long sigh...."

[Shanna]

Shannon wrote: "Old-Barbarossa wrote: "But the chap did say:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, an..."

There is the lovely story in Matthew 15 Where he call the Canaanite's or at least unbelievers "dogs" while proclaiming he's only here for the jews (the lost house of Israel)

15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

[Shanna]

Hazel wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Hazel wrote: "Shanna wrote: "I see your d'ohh, and raise you a *headdesk* "

Face palm and long sigh...."

"

LOL, I concede and doff my cap madam, mostly because the only thing I can come up with eyerolling....

[[deleted user]]

Many thanks for the "troll" and "wanker" information. ;)

[cerebus]

cs wrote: "It is up to each person to do what they think is right. If they think that to use contraception to prevent new human beings from coming into existence is wrong they will not use comdoms regardless of aids. "
If they think that as a result of their being a catholic, then it follows that it is the church's position that is contributing to the spread of aids.

[cerebus]

cs wrote: "Read my comment again and this time don't take it out of context"
The only modification required is for you to truly believe it is ok to kill for it not to be wrong by your argument.

[cerebus]

cs wrote: "What sort of things do you think Catholics watch on tv that you don't"
Things that are so fascinating that they make you forget that sex is fun and might be an enjoyable thing to do on occasions other than wanting another mouth to feed in approximately 9 months time. Not much I've seen lately springs to mind.....

[Maria]

Shanna wrote: "Hazel wrote: "Oh, and happy star wars day, all :D"

And May the fourth be with you."

Luke, I am NOT your father - I used a freakin condom.

And I find your lack of faith disturbing.......Darth Vadar

[Shanna]

Maria wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Hazel wrote: "Oh, and happy star wars day, all :D"

And May the fourth be with you."

Luke, I am NOT your father - I used a freakin condom."

Noooooooooooooo.....

[aPriL does feral sometimes]

Shanna wrote: "Maria wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Hazel wrote: "Oh, and happy star wars day, all :D"

And May the fourth be with you."

Luke, I am NOT your father - I used a freakin condom."

Noooooooooooooo....."

I'm surprised Darth had something that didn't work mechanically on his body, but he did have a hatred of hands.....closet Catholic?

[[deleted user]]

Changing the subject a bit ....

Some of you will be glad to know Sean Bean is still alive. In addition, it turns out that he was good all along.

[Shanna]

Shannon wrote: "Changing the subject a bit ....

Some of you will be glad to know Sean Bean is still alive. In addition, it turns out that he was good all along."

Phew!

[Bob]

You would not have science without religion. Most early scientist were believers. It was only people who believed in a rational ordered universe created by God who pursued truth.

[Travis]

Wow! I go off to work and this thread goes all over the place.
Good to see some of the adults back in the conversation.
Those two pages sponsored by the middle school new to texting theology class were a bit bizarre.

Glad to see we got a Sean Bean update.
I worry about the guy. If Shannon wasn't keeping an eye on him, he might fall in with a bad crowd.

I swear, next person to bring up the 'why are there still monkeys...?" argument is getting dope slapped.
Crack open a book, people!
Those of us who are disputing religion have at least bothered to read up on it.
Course, it helps that there's only one book.
while the anti-science crowd have so many to choose from...

[cerebus]

Bob wrote: "You would not have science without religion. Most early scientist were believers. It was only people who believed in a rational ordered universe created by God who pursued truth."
This has been covered before in this thread. We would have science if there had been no religion....we have science despite religion.

[[deleted user]]

"Zachary wrote: does Jesus swear at people and make nasty comments to people in the gospels?"


Of course not, but before he enters Jerusalem, he curses a fig tree because it had no figs on it because figs were out of season then. Nobody's perfect.

At any rate, I believe in "Imagine" by John Lennon.

[cHriS]

Cerebus wrote: "cs wrote: "What sort of things do you think Catholics watch on tv that you don't"
Things that are so fascinating that they make you forget that sex is fun and might be an enjoyable thing to do on o..."

All that from what was the offspring a hybrid half-woman and half-serpent, and Typhon, a fire-breathing giant whom even the Olympian gods feared.


Ha!

[cHriS]

Cerebus wrote: "cs wrote: "It is up to each person to do what they think is right. If they think that to use contraception to prevent new human beings from coming into existence is wrong they will not use comdoms ..."

Its a bit like politics. You don't have to agree with all that your party says.

[Hazel]

Shanna wrote: "LOL, I concede and doff my cap madam, mostly because the only thing I can come up with eyerolling.... "

aww, honey, you could have gone with something like these:









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[John]

Shanna wrote: "Was it the same man who offered those same daughters to the mob to rape so they didn't touch the ANGELS that visited him? "
That's the one.

Bob wrote: "You would not have science without religion. Most early scientist were believers. It was only people who believed in a rational ordered universe created by God who pursued truth."
And without Black People there would be no religion because the first humans came from Africa.
See how that statement makes no sense? Now check your argument again and ask yourself why some arbitrary factor like Religion, Color of the skin, Gender, etc. should have an influence on whether or not someone tries to attain knowledge through study or practice (= science).
Hint: It doesn't.

By the way: Define "early scientists". Are you talking about the Greeks, the Romans, the Chinese, the Arabians, the Europeans or the early Humans who figured out how to make fire, sharpen a stone or build a weapon?