Angels & Demons
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Would you rather live in a world without science...or in a world without religion?
Shannon wrote: "Hazel wrote: "is there anything that religion does, that it provides, that it inspires that is good, that cannot be achieved by non religious means, ie secular means?"I've answered this question ..."
yeah, sorry, I should have made it more apparent that I was talking directly to Mahz
SO Mahz, you think those who have no religion have no purpose to their lives? Why do you need an outside agency to give your life meaning? The 3rd largest religious stance in the world is now non-religious, do you not think those people (about 1.5 billion people) have meaning in their lives? Why do you need a reward to make your life have meaning? Don't you think that working towards a reward actually cheapens this life as you're more focused on a possible reward rather than the actuality of this one life that we know we definitely have.
First, you can't really make any claims about what atheists believe, all atheism is is a lack of belief in god or gods. Anything else they may or may not believe is unrelated to their atheism. I don't believe in the big bang, I consider the available evidence and accept that its currently the best explanation we have. Why doubt god? Because there is absolutely no evidence for the existence of your, or any of the other several hundred gods that have and still are worshipped. Do you believe that Brahma created the world? Or that the ancient greek/roman/norse/aboriginal etc etc creation myth is correct?
I agree that something that has been designed must have a designer, but conversely something that was not designed does not need a designer.
Anyhow, bedtime for me. Work in the morning. Night all
Are you implying that if you can't see something you can't believe in it?
A human being is one of God's biggest miracle, someone that had no value e.g before conception, becomes someone with a value.
Mahz wrote: "Are you implying that if you can't see something you can't believe in it?"where did I say that?
I'm saying that if you want claims to be treated seriously, then you have to have evidence to present that supports the claim, and that evidence must stand up to scrutiny and not be explainable by anything other than god. As yet, no-one has presented anything that fits those criteria.
You cannot, if you are intellectually honest, make a claim about humans being gods greatest miracle without first providing evidence that fits the above criteria for the existence of god. You have made a definitive statement that is completely unsubstantiated.
Also, you didn't answer any of the questions I have asked you, so if you could have a think about them, you do have some time before I will be online again, I'm sure you can answer them.
This time, I'm really going to bed, I'll try to catch up tomorrow evening.
These following words are from one of the infalliables known as Imam Jafar as-Sadiq (As) to someone who also questioned the existance of God.Do you think that the grass in the field grows and gets green by itself. You must know that the grass cannot grow without seeds and seeds would not germinate without moisture in the soil and there would be no moisture if no rain falls. The rain does not fall by itself. First the water vapours rise and gather above in the atmosphere in the form of clouds. The winds bring the clouds. Then the water vapours condense and fall down as rain drops. The rain must also fall at the right time, otherwise no grass will grow and become green. Take the seeds of ten kinds of herbs and put them in a closed jar, which has sufficient water, but no air. Would they germinate? No, in addition to water, seeds need air also. It is possible to grow grass, herbs and fruits in hot houses, when it is very cold, provided there is sufficient air. Without the presence of air no grass will gr! ow in the fields and get green. If there is no air, all plants and animals, including human beings, would die.
Do you see the air, on which your very existence depends. You only feel it when it moves. Can you refuse to believe in the existence of air? Can you deny that to grow and get green the grass needs many things like seeds, soil, water, air, a suitable climate and above all a strong managing power, which may co-ordinate the action of these different elements. That Managing and Co-ordinating Power is Allah.
All scientists and all scholars believe in the existence of a creator, they may call Him by different names. Even those, who do not believe in Allah, believe in a Creative Force.
Please do ponder! Good night!
Mahz wrote: "All scientists and all scholars believe in the existence of a creator, they may call Him by different names. Even those, who do not believe in Allah, believe in a Creative Force."
Rut ro .... Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day on this thread.
Mahz, .... I, personally, believe. I believe in a higher power, in God.
But, I don't think all scientists and all scholars believe in a creator. First, such definitive statements make me more than a bit itchy and twitchy. In my mind, they're over-generalizations and, as such, are often limited and incorrect. Further, I know of some scientists and scholars who don't believe in a creator.
Yes, I believe in things I can't see and can't prove through science, including the spiritual. (I do find myself wondering .... Even though we can't "see" air, are there scientific tests that prove its existence?)
Rut ro .... Tomorrow is going to be an interesting day on this thread.
Mahz, .... I, personally, believe. I believe in a higher power, in God.
But, I don't think all scientists and all scholars believe in a creator. First, such definitive statements make me more than a bit itchy and twitchy. In my mind, they're over-generalizations and, as such, are often limited and incorrect. Further, I know of some scientists and scholars who don't believe in a creator.
Yes, I believe in things I can't see and can't prove through science, including the spiritual. (I do find myself wondering .... Even though we can't "see" air, are there scientific tests that prove its existence?)
I didn't say non religious people don't have a purpose in life, please read my comment again, I have said that their purpose in life is short term as they don't believe in the hereafter. One's vision and purpose in life expands once the hereafter is in the picture.
I respect everyone's views and I guess I got a little carried away, but I don't want to dishearten anyone!
Gary wrote: "Shannon wrote: "I also repeatedly come down on the side of non-believers having the right to choose for themselves and stand for their not facing consequences as a result.
Are you purposely ignoring that?"
No. I agree with that and respect you for it. However, this is why it doesn't sit with the rest of what you say.
How does a non-believer get the choice to not believe if they taught from an impressionable age that a belief is the truth?"
I've been thinking about this a bit this afternoon and evening. On the one hand, I can see what you're saying. However, I can't help but feel it's very definitive and extremely simplistic.
To pose that question, ... how does a nonbeliever get the choice to not believe if they [are] taught from an impressionable age that a belief is the truth ... makes it seem as if no one on the planet leaves their faith.
We both know that's not accurate. Further, you've told us you once believed and didn't realize, for years, that non-belief was a possibility. Yet, here you are, an extremely vocal non-believer.
It might be difficult to leave one's faith, but people do. People do all the time.
We see people leave their particular religion for another. My aunt, who was raised Methodist, became a Catholic. Some of the people in our family weren't overly pleased. Guess what? She did it anyway. My uncle, who wasn't raised to be religious, converted to Mormonism.
I know, personally, several people who have left their Christian faith for Buddhism. Several Buddhist monks moved here and live on a little farm or something. They give free workshops on various things. A fair number of people here have begun a Buddhist path.
One of my cousins was raised to believe in God. She is now a non-believer and has been for years.
I had a student, just the other day, write about being extremely religious when s/he was growing up. Free write journals. You never know what you might get. At any rate, s/he wrote the journal and shared it. Detailing years of belief. S/he ended by explaining why s/he no longer believes and is now an atheist.
The other students and adults in the room listened and said nothing, other than thanking the student for sharing and, in the case of one of the students, connecting over newfound lack of belief.
How can people choose non-belief? How can people choose anything?
I sometimes wonder why you see things in such stark terms. Is the UK really that different, then? And, .... Do people in the UK only ever hear about the most extreme Americans and American news stories?
Are you purposely ignoring that?"
No. I agree with that and respect you for it. However, this is why it doesn't sit with the rest of what you say.
How does a non-believer get the choice to not believe if they taught from an impressionable age that a belief is the truth?"
I've been thinking about this a bit this afternoon and evening. On the one hand, I can see what you're saying. However, I can't help but feel it's very definitive and extremely simplistic.
To pose that question, ... how does a nonbeliever get the choice to not believe if they [are] taught from an impressionable age that a belief is the truth ... makes it seem as if no one on the planet leaves their faith.
We both know that's not accurate. Further, you've told us you once believed and didn't realize, for years, that non-belief was a possibility. Yet, here you are, an extremely vocal non-believer.
It might be difficult to leave one's faith, but people do. People do all the time.
We see people leave their particular religion for another. My aunt, who was raised Methodist, became a Catholic. Some of the people in our family weren't overly pleased. Guess what? She did it anyway. My uncle, who wasn't raised to be religious, converted to Mormonism.
I know, personally, several people who have left their Christian faith for Buddhism. Several Buddhist monks moved here and live on a little farm or something. They give free workshops on various things. A fair number of people here have begun a Buddhist path.
One of my cousins was raised to believe in God. She is now a non-believer and has been for years.
I had a student, just the other day, write about being extremely religious when s/he was growing up. Free write journals. You never know what you might get. At any rate, s/he wrote the journal and shared it. Detailing years of belief. S/he ended by explaining why s/he no longer believes and is now an atheist.
The other students and adults in the room listened and said nothing, other than thanking the student for sharing and, in the case of one of the students, connecting over newfound lack of belief.
How can people choose non-belief? How can people choose anything?
I sometimes wonder why you see things in such stark terms. Is the UK really that different, then? And, .... Do people in the UK only ever hear about the most extreme Americans and American news stories?
Shannon wrote: "Mahz wrote: "All scientists and all scholars believe in the existence of a creator, they may call Him by different names. Even those, who do not believe in Allah, believe in a Creative Force."Rut..."
Ah, don't worry about it Shannon. The world's going to end friday, so people will be too busy to argue.
Travis wrote: "Ah, don't worry about it Shannon. The world's going to end friday, so people will be too busy to argue. "
Yeah....
I can't wait until Saturday. I actually have students who are pretty stressed out about this. Understatement.
Sigh....
:(
Yeah....
I can't wait until Saturday. I actually have students who are pretty stressed out about this. Understatement.
Sigh....
:(
Shannon wrote: "Travis wrote: "Ah, don't worry about it Shannon. The world's going to end friday, so people will be too busy to argue. "Yeah....
I can't wait until Saturday. I actually have students who are pr..."
I'll be busy saturday, telling everyone 'Whew! Thank goodness Doctor Who saved us!"
I'm curious it will be the 21st here in Australia approximately 16 hours before it reaches the US. So do I just have nine hours left to live or does the "apocalypse" run on US time?
Mahz wrote: "These following words are from one of the infalliables known as Imam Jafar as-Sadiq (As) to someone who also questioned the existance of God.Do you think that the grass in the field grows and gets..."
Well done on a reasonable description of the water cycle. God does not need to be involved, we have a rather complete understanding of it.
As for air, its measurable, and with the correct equipment we can see it. It has mass.
I don't believe in a crreative force, I think that given the evidence, our current best explanation for the universe is the big bang. If evidence appeared to contradict this, and to give a different explanation, then as long as that evidence held up to peer review and scrutiny, then I would alter my ideas accordingly.
Mahz wrote: "I didn't say non religious people don't have a purpose in life, please read my comment again, I have said that their purpose in life is short term as they don't believe in the hereafter. One's visi..."
Ah, so you see, I'd say therefore that non believers have a fuller and richer life as they're focused purely on the only life we know for absolute certainty that we get, this makes this life of paramount importance, and something not to be wasted on dogma, while it can be filled with actually experiencing as much as we can. Whereas believers who are wanting to reach the better sort of afterlife, and not the worse sort will miss out on the wonders of this life as they try to prepare for the next one, and subjugate themselves to arbitrary rules decided upon by people hundreds, thousands of years ago.
i would prefer to live in the world without religion ,definetelly. "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you."
Locovilly wrote: "i would prefer to live in the world without religion ,definetelly.
"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, eve..."
A very narrow quote, in that it only deals with the Jewish, Muslim and Christian faiths.
"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, eve..."
A very narrow quote, in that it only deals with the Jewish, Muslim and Christian faiths.
Shannon wrote: "Locovilly wrote: "i would prefer to live in the world without religion ,definetelly. "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches ever..."
Actually, that quote is from that renowned and much missed scholar and philosopher, George Carlin.
Narrow quote? seems to cover the major players.
If there are any druids or scientologists on the board that feel left out, I'm sure they'll let us know.
Shanna wrote: "I'm curious it will be the 21st here in Australia approximately 16 hours before it reaches the US. So do I just have nine hours left to live or does the "apocalypse" run on US time?"The Mayans were vague on that.
They also left out that minor detail of 'how' the world ends.
Should I be preparing for an asteroid or zombies?
Travis wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Locovilly wrote: "i would prefer to live in the world without religion ,definetelly.
"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- ..."
How about the Hindus? Etc....
I don't like leaving people out, especially people who are often left out. Blame all the multicultural classes I took in teacher school.
"Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- ..."
How about the Hindus? Etc....
I don't like leaving people out, especially people who are often left out. Blame all the multicultural classes I took in teacher school.
Shannon wrote: "Travis wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Locovilly wrote: "i would prefer to live in the world without religion ,definetelly. "Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living..."
Or the native americans, pagans and Jedi...
or could just wait and see if any of the groups we mentioned have actually showed up to this conversation and let them inform us if they feel left out.
well, this made me laugh, so I thought I'd share it as it has been touched on
Hazel wrote: "well, this made me laugh, so I thought I'd share it as it has been touched on"
Yes it made me laugh too
But i don't get what started it?
Mahz wrote: "These following words are from one of the infalliables known as Imam Jafar as-Sadiq (As) to someone who also questioned the existance of God.Do you think that the grass in the field grows and gets..."
Whoa, not all scientists and scholars believe in the existence of a creator, in fact, I would say probably more than half DO NOT believe in the existence of a creator IMO.
Hazel wrote: "well, this made me laugh, so I thought I'd share it as it has been touched on"
Why would we trust the prediction of people that didn't predict that the Spanish were going to show up and stomp them into near extinction...?
Travis wrote: "Hazel wrote: "well, this made me laugh, so I thought I'd share it as it has been touched on"
Why would we trust the prediction of people that didn't predict that the Spanish were going to show ..."
What gets me is the number of christians getting in a tiz about it, when surely these "predictions" came from a heathen people who worshipped false gods, and so are obviously absolute rubbish, surely only apocalyptic predictions from nutbags of their own religion should be taken seriously in any way... ;P
Weeellll I'm still here, all of you?....
Disrespectful and disreputable and thoroughly mean me is still here! Neener neener....
my english is bad and i should feel bad..i dont want to think about all the religions and stuff, i just giving my opinion.
For me religion is something , without what life would be more productive and rational.
Hazel wrote: "What gets me is the number of christians getting in a tiz about it, when surely these "predictions" came from a heathen people who worshipped false gods, and so are obviously absolute rubbish, surely only apocalyptic predictions from nutbags of their own religion should be taken seriously in any way... ;P "
I don't know about labeling people as nutbags, but ....
I was watching the CBS morning news this morning, and they had a psychologist or sociologist on regarding the upset over 12/21/12.
He said it makes absolute sense that so many people are upset regarding this idea. Why? We're living in very uncertain times. The economy is tanking or has tanked the world over. We continue to hear stories of political unrest and war, think Syria. When will Iran develop nuclear weapons and will they use those weapons? Etc... Etc...
So, this doctor said, in times of great stress, turmoil and unrest, humans more often than not will latch onto something like this and become very upset. It's an outlet, of sorts, for their stress and worry.
The doctor, rather than blaming nutbags, blamed ....
Drumroll .... People who use such times in order to make a profit for themselves. All of the people who have written books and taken that money to the bank. Hollywood. Hollywood has made at least one movie based on the Mayan calendar and the end of the world.
We can joke about it. But, it sort of frosts my cake that people use the times and take advantage of people's fears. I'm guessing some of those people are religious and some aren't. :(
I don't know about labeling people as nutbags, but ....
I was watching the CBS morning news this morning, and they had a psychologist or sociologist on regarding the upset over 12/21/12.
He said it makes absolute sense that so many people are upset regarding this idea. Why? We're living in very uncertain times. The economy is tanking or has tanked the world over. We continue to hear stories of political unrest and war, think Syria. When will Iran develop nuclear weapons and will they use those weapons? Etc... Etc...
So, this doctor said, in times of great stress, turmoil and unrest, humans more often than not will latch onto something like this and become very upset. It's an outlet, of sorts, for their stress and worry.
The doctor, rather than blaming nutbags, blamed ....
Drumroll .... People who use such times in order to make a profit for themselves. All of the people who have written books and taken that money to the bank. Hollywood. Hollywood has made at least one movie based on the Mayan calendar and the end of the world.
We can joke about it. But, it sort of frosts my cake that people use the times and take advantage of people's fears. I'm guessing some of those people are religious and some aren't. :(
Shannon people who claim the world is going to end on a specific date in the comparatively near future are nutbags, there really is no two ways about it. I mean specifically the people who make the original claim, such as Harold Camping.
Well, that was a disappointing end of the world.
See you guys tomorrow.
Well, I'm still here, how about you?
I dont feel any diffrent except a day older.The planet seems fine other than global warming but the good newsis theres still land being formed around places like
Iceland.The bad news is Iceland is a volcanic island
Global warming is a governmental hoax. It is totally not happening, although the American government has manipulated the statistics so that we think it is.
Maria wrote: "Global warming is a governmental hoax. It is totally not happening, although the American government has manipulated the statistics so that we think it is."
Ummm.... Really? I'm pretty sure we've always had times of global warming and cooling. Do you mean the idea that global warming is caused by humans, solely? Those who promote that it's only caused by humans are misadvised, in my opinion. Sunspots, for example, have a LOT to do with it. Believe it or not, I went to space camp as a kid in the '80's. I remember learning about sunspots there. Our instructors told us we were going to be going into a warmer time period due, largely, to sunspot activity. Having said that, I imagine humans and pollution also play a role.
What do you think is a hoax and why?
Ummm.... Really? I'm pretty sure we've always had times of global warming and cooling. Do you mean the idea that global warming is caused by humans, solely? Those who promote that it's only caused by humans are misadvised, in my opinion. Sunspots, for example, have a LOT to do with it. Believe it or not, I went to space camp as a kid in the '80's. I remember learning about sunspots there. Our instructors told us we were going to be going into a warmer time period due, largely, to sunspot activity. Having said that, I imagine humans and pollution also play a role.
What do you think is a hoax and why?
Shannon wrote: "Maria wrote: "Global warming is a governmental hoax. It is totally not happening, although the American government has manipulated the statistics so that we think it is."Ummm.... Really? I'm p..."
My guess is Maria is being funny.
Or was thinking there isn't near enough arguing on this board.
Travis wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Maria wrote: "Global warming is a governmental hoax. It is totally not happening, although the American government has manipulated the statistics so that we think it is."
Ummm......."
Don't know. Maria has said we should take her at her word. Though, I must admit, it seemed an odd post.
Ummm......."
Don't know. Maria has said we should take her at her word. Though, I must admit, it seemed an odd post.
Please no arguing. Peace on Earth, Goodwill toward Man, and Women.
Around our way we each have a red wheelie bin. I say red but it is a dark red, not quite burgundy, but if you think burgundy but lighter you will be close.Anyway, we have to put stuff to be recycled in it; paper, news paper, magazines, thin cardboard, plastic bottles (but not bottle tops), some but not all plastic, and clean cans. Other rubbish goes in a black wheelie bin. We also have a green bin for garden waste. Some areas have four bins and I know of one local authority that insists on five bins.
Everything we put in the ‘not quite burgundy’ bin has to be clean. If I want some beans I open the can remove the beans and before I can recycle the can I have to wash it, or at least rinse it under running water. This is the same water we are told to conserve and not waste, because here in the Uk we have a water shortage most summers and many of us are on water meters and so we are charged for each drop we use.
Some people think that because they rinse a can and recycle it they are saving the planet and not adding to the demise of the ozone layer, at least over the UK.
The methane produced by a cow each day is comparable to the pollution produced by a car a day. And the US has far more cows and cars than we do, so me washing a bean can to recycle is a bit like turning off a bath tap on the Titanic.
Merry Christmas to all. Even those who say they don't go along with Christmas, but I bet have a crafty glass of something and a mince pie. :}
I was being funny about global warming. I love a good conspiracy theory and State of Fear by Michael Crichton added global warming to the list of things the government is covering up. "State of Fear is meant to push the reader to consider that his or her position on global warming may be based on faulty research and political ideology rather than scientific fact."
This is from one of the reviews on Goodreads.
cHriS wrote: "Around our way we each have a red wheelie bin. I say red but it is a dark red, not quite burgundy, but if you think burgundy but lighter you will be close.
Anyway, we have to put stuff to be recy..."
Hmmmm.... So, .... You have to recycle there? As in, it's a law? It's isn't here. At least, it isn't in this area. Some recycle and some don't. It was a big craze several years ago. Like ... 15 or more years ago. I think it's gone by the wayside, here at least, to a certain extent. The schools I've worked in and work in do recycle. Wondering if they're recycling in China....
Speaking of the UK, though, I just got back from Skyfall. Sigh.... I am quite sure Craig is the best Bond. Truly.
Yes, Travis, I know. I'm wading into troubled waters. Again.
May I just say ....
Well, first, I went to the "big" city. Ha, ha. A city with around 30,000 people. They had one of the newfangled theaters. With the "terracing" and reclining chairs. Wow! That was quite something in and of itself.
And, .... Was the ending truly shot in Scotland? We Americans have a thing for Scotland, most of us, for some reason. I can't help but thing, though.... So many of the pictures and footage I see of Scotland look so, hmmm.... I'm not sure. Almost haunted and lonely. Does it look like that for real, all of you from the UK?
Finally, .... I cried in the end. I won't say why if you haven't seen it. I swear I was the only one who cried. What's up with that? People looked at me like I was crazy and my cousin laughed at me. Did anyone else cry?
So, yes, Craig must be the best Bond. I don't recall any of the others bringing me to tears. It must be so.
Last but not least, Merry Christmas to you, too, cHriS.
Anyway, we have to put stuff to be recy..."
Hmmmm.... So, .... You have to recycle there? As in, it's a law? It's isn't here. At least, it isn't in this area. Some recycle and some don't. It was a big craze several years ago. Like ... 15 or more years ago. I think it's gone by the wayside, here at least, to a certain extent. The schools I've worked in and work in do recycle. Wondering if they're recycling in China....
Speaking of the UK, though, I just got back from Skyfall. Sigh.... I am quite sure Craig is the best Bond. Truly.
Yes, Travis, I know. I'm wading into troubled waters. Again.
May I just say ....
Well, first, I went to the "big" city. Ha, ha. A city with around 30,000 people. They had one of the newfangled theaters. With the "terracing" and reclining chairs. Wow! That was quite something in and of itself.
And, .... Was the ending truly shot in Scotland? We Americans have a thing for Scotland, most of us, for some reason. I can't help but thing, though.... So many of the pictures and footage I see of Scotland look so, hmmm.... I'm not sure. Almost haunted and lonely. Does it look like that for real, all of you from the UK?
Finally, .... I cried in the end. I won't say why if you haven't seen it. I swear I was the only one who cried. What's up with that? People looked at me like I was crazy and my cousin laughed at me. Did anyone else cry?
So, yes, Craig must be the best Bond. I don't recall any of the others bringing me to tears. It must be so.
Last but not least, Merry Christmas to you, too, cHriS.
Shannon wrote: "cHriS wrote: "Around our way we each have a red wheelie bin. I say red but it is a dark red, not quite burgundy, but if you think burgundy but lighter you will be close.Anyway, we have to put st..."
While I will dispute Craig being the best Bond, I did enjoy 'Skyfall' quite a bit. Took my wife to see it for her birthday.
Nice mix of the new and the old. Much better at Craig 'becoming Bond' than Casino Royale, I thought.
Judi Dench is still the biggest badass in the film.
Lots of little nice tips of the hat to the past.
Interested to see what happens next.
Travis wrote: "Nice mix of the new and the old. Much better at Craig 'becoming Bond' than Casino Royale, I thought.
Judi Dench is still the biggest badass in the film.
Lots of little nice tips of the hat to the past.
"
Oh, I thought so, too! But, ... did you cry?
Judi Dench is still the biggest badass in the film.
Lots of little nice tips of the hat to the past.
"
Oh, I thought so, too! But, ... did you cry?
Skyfall .... And, ....
I loved the part where Dench quoted Tennyson ...
"We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
I loved the part where Dench quoted Tennyson ...
"We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."
OMG - Sean Connery is by far the best Bond. Hands down!
Maria wrote: "OMG - Sean Connery is by far the best Bond. Hands down!"
Did he move you to tears?
Did he move you to tears?
Waiting for someone to say ...
"There's no crying in Bond films!"
"There's no crying in Bond films!"
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Another means of inspiration is believing in the creator (God). Atheists believing in the Big Bang theory is something that would seem absurd to a religious/practicing person. Think about it this way, a car isn't just available to go and buy, it needs someone to be able to build the car therefore if something as sample as understanding the concept of building a car is easy to comprehend then why doubt God who was the driving force in making the universe and everything in it.