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[Shanna]

Travis wrote: "Shanna wrote: "The ads are enough for me, don't think I could watch an entire episode."

I got rid of cable and just do all my TV watching through netflix.
When i go somewhere that has regular TV, ..."

We have satellite tv, I love documentary channels

[Drew]

cHriS wrote: "Janice, you are not really allowed to have an opinion on this thread. If you believe in a God then you must be able to prove it. Free speech or going off the subject is frowned upon.

Gary, Hazel, ..."

cHriS wrote: "Janice, you are not really allowed to have an opinion on this thread. If you believe in a God then you must be able to prove it. Free speech or going off the subject is frowned upon.

Gary, Hazel, ..."

I have to say, you do sound like a troll. You don't answer any questions but continually put others down because they don't agree with you and all they are asking for is proof that your so called god exists, which you obviously can't prove since one does not exist.

[Travis]

Cerebus wrote: "cHriS wrote: "Janice, you are not really allowed to have an opinion on this thread. If you believe in a God then you must be able to prove it. Free speech or going off the subject is frowned upon.
..."

You are more likely to see Mitt Romney's tax returns than a straight answer from cs.

[Travis]

Shanna wrote: "Travis wrote: "Shanna wrote: "The ads are enough for me, don't think I could watch an entire episode."

I got rid of cable and just do all my TV watching through netflix.
When i go somewhere that h..."

Whenever I get to watch 'real' TV I nearly always end up watching the Food network or discovery or some channel like that.
Most regular Tv doesn't grab me.

[Shanna]

Food network is good, my four year old likes cooking shows too (don't ask I don't know, but then he also likes RPA a reality show in a hospital which show operations and real patients, I'm glad I'm a nurse and can explain, age appropriate of course, most of what is going on, he's facinated (a future doctor?))

Discovery, history channel, nat geo....

[Drew]

I'm a fan of "Breaking Bad", "The Walking Dead", "Weeds", "Supernatural", and "The Mentalist", that's about as far as my tv watching goes. Give me a book or movie any day.

[Shanna]

The Mentalist and Supernatural though I'd posit some of my reasons might be different to yours... or perhaps not.
The others my husband has on dvd and I will get to them some day,
Dexter and True Blood are other faves, I also love Top Chef

[Drew]

Shanna wrote: "The Mentalist and Supernatural though I'd posit some of my reasons might be different to yours... or perhaps not.
The others my husband has on dvd and I will get to them some day,
Dexter and True B..."

You got a crush on Dean, Sam, and Patrick? ;)

[Shanna]

Simon Baker is, I don't know how to put it, dreamy :P Which is actually odd, I don't usually go for blondes.

Dean and Sam are nice eye candy, and the show entertaining, and the smartassery appeals to me.

[Hazel]

You think Simon Baker is dreamy, yet reject Home and Away... where he started ;P

No, you're right, Home and Away is a big pile of shite.

[Shanna]

Yep am I cherry pickin' Simon?

Wasn't he E-street? I can't bring myself to watch either, Simon or not.
Yeah we all gotta start somewhere....

[Shanna]

Nope you're right Home and Away... see almost total ignorance of our soapies

[Hazel]

only reason I know is because they're having this home and away marathon on the same channel as the mentalist is on, and its all the "favourite episodes as voted for by you", and the advert is always on during a break in the mentalist, and he's in the advert. I refused to believe it at first, but had to accept the evidence in the end.

[cerebus]

Shanna wrote: "Yep am I cherry pickin' Simon? "
You wish!! :P

[cerebus]

Hazel wrote: "No, you're right, Home and Away is a big pile of shite."
You forgot 'steaming' in there.....

[Hazel]

and missed a chance at alliteration, which is one of the most satisfying use of language going.

[Shanna]

Home and Away marathon surely a sign of the incipient apocalypse/armageddon/end times/rapture, have you installed you rapture hatch yet?

[Shanna]

Cerebus wrote: "Shanna wrote: "Yep am I cherry pickin' Simon? "
You wish!! :P"

Do I what...

[cerebus]

Hazel wrote: "and missed a chance at alliteration, which is one of the most satisfying use of language going."
I am in absolute and abundant agreement......

[cHriS]

Drew wrote: I have to say, you do sound like a troll.

You are wrong, I do answer the questions. Check back as far as you like and you will find an answer to what ever question you think i have not answered. When I am asked the same question more than once, then I don't always repete myself.

Drew wrote: "I'm a fan of "Breaking Bad", "The Walking Dead", "Weeds", "Supernatural", and "The Mentalist", that's about as far as my tv watching goes. Give me a book or movie any day."

Now, this is trolling and you do quite a bit of it, this page is full of it.

Drew wrote: and all they are asking for is proof that your so called god exists, which you obviously can't prove since one does not exist.

That comment has an obvious flaw in it. So maybe Gary, Hazel or Cerebus would like to point it out to you. But I guess they won't do that because it may look as if they are agreeing with me.

Or you could read Dawkins.

[cHriS]

Travis wrote: "Cerebus wrote: "cHriS wrote: "Janice, you are not really allowed to have an opinion on this thread. If you believe in a God then you must be able to prove it. Free speech or going off the subject i..."

That humour does not travel across the pond to well, just as some of mine seems to be lost North of Watford.

[Travis]

cHriS wrote: "Drew wrote: I have to say, you do sound like a troll.

You are wrong, I do answer the questions. Check back as far as you like and you will find an answer to what ever question you think i have n..."

Actually, I never got an answer to my question about evidence of god.


the TV discussion isn't trolling, it's 'digressing' or it can also be called 'chatting while we wait to see how cs will avoid answering a question'.

[cerebus]

cHriS/cs wrote: "You are wrong, I do answer the questions. Check back as far as you like and you will find an answer to what ever question you think i have not answered. When I am asked the same question more than once, then I don't always repete myself. ."
Nope, you tried this last time.....the whole "it's up to you to find it". Didn't work then, doesn't work now, it's still trolling.

cHriS/cs wrote: "Now, this is trolling and you do quite a bit of it, this page is full of it."
You don't understand what trolling is if you think off-topic tangents are trolling. Your obvious attempts to stir rather than engage are examples of trolling.

cHriS/cs wrote: "That comment has an obvious flaw in it. So maybe Gary, Hazel or Cerebus would like to point it out to you. But I guess they won't do that because it may look as if they are agreeing with me. "
This is why you are a troll, rather than engage in the discussion, point out where you think there is a flaw and follow up with evidence if necessary, you choose to cast aspersions and try to provoke people. If you want to stop being a troll, disagree with Drew's point, explain why you disagree and be prepared to defend your opinion.

[cerebus]

cHriS/cs wrote: "That humour does not travel across the pond to well, just as some of mine seems to be lost North of Watford"
Humour travels better than you think. Trolling similarly annoys universally.....

[Travis]

Cerebus wrote: "cHriS wrote: "That humour does not travel across the pond to well, just as some of mine seems to be lost North of Watford"
Humour travels better than you think. Trolling similarly annoys universall..."


See, I watch a lot of BBC America, so I get humor from outside my locale.
cs just isn't that funny.

[Yasmeen]

Travis wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "Travis wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "Gary wrote: "Yasmeen wrote: "i agree with the last line you wrote- because religion was sent to instruct man, so why would it be if ther's no one to i..."
oh don't be; i actually like the sarcasim, it should be present in this disscussion that has so many people from a variety of culture, religion, and beliefs on it..breaks the tension.
and it would help a great deal if you determined what kind of proof you needed. it would save us the trouble of getting into certain topics to persuade you that don't even interst you!

[Yasmeen]

Hazel wrote: "Although ants more than 11,000 different type, they all have only three types:
1. Queens.
2. as ants perform workers.
3. ants masculine.

Not true, actually. Ants have 4 castes. Some have subdivis..."

to be honest, these information didn't come from me. i named my sources. i knew little information about everything i had mentioned earlier in my posts, the rest is from research. frankly, this paticular one (about ant types) i've never heard before. but i saw it while researching and i thought it would be interesting to include. so i'm sorry if it's truly incorrect. but there's so much more information that i have to offer..this doesn't take that away..

[Yasmeen]

Shanna wrote: "Simon Baker is, I don't know how to put it, dreamy :P Which is actually odd, I don't usually go for blondes.

Dean and Sam are nice eye candy, and the show entertaining, and the smartassery appeal..."

i don't know how exactly the discussion subject shifted suddenly to hot guys on tv shows because there are so many comments on this discussion and i don't have time to read them all, but i do agree. sam and dean's good looks, especially DEAN's, they add a really great satifying touch on supernatural. but most of the time i find too much fantasy in the series to make it look believable and presentable, at least while rolling..so i don't watch it anymore..

[Hazel]

don't worry about it Yasmeen, it happens occasionally, and we get back to the point eventually. Just count your blessings that its not Sean Bean this time ;P

[cHriS]

Travis wrote: Actually, I never got an answer to my question about evidence of god.

There was an answer, you just did not read back far enough. The same question was asked of me on more than one occasion.

the TV discussion isn't trolling, it's 'digressing' or it can also be called 'chatting while we wait to see how cs will avoid answering a question' ..."

Going off topic is a form of trolling, that is why some replies are missed, there is to much non topic stuff to wade through. Start a new thread about TV or Sean Bean.

[cHriS]

Travis wrote: See, I watch a lot of BBC America, so I get humor from outside my locale.
cs just isn't that funny.."

I bet you even tell your jokes with an English accent.

Of course that would be before you got rid of your cable and only watch Netflix now, I guess, (message 6335).

[cerebus]

cHriS/cs wrote: "There was an answer, you just did not read back far enough. The same question was asked of me on more than one occasion."
You tried this last time, it didn't work then, it's not working now. Troll.

cHriS/cs wrote: "Going off topic is a form of trolling, that is why some replies are missed, there is to much non topic stuff to wade through. Start a new thread about TV or Sean Bean. "
No, it isn't. Most of us are capable of following the thread, even with digressions.

As it was before, is now, ever shall be, world without end.....cs trolling and evading.

[Drew]

Cerebus wrote: "cHriS/cs wrote: "You are wrong, I do answer the questions. Check back as far as you like and you will find an answer to what ever question you think i have not answered. When I am asked the same qu..."

And there you go, see they are not afraid to comment on your obvious trolls.

If you look back, I didn't start the conversation about tv shows, and even if I would have, it still would not be trolling.

[Shanna]

Ah see we have it! we've been calling cs a troll and he simply doesn't understand what a troll is, despite having it explained, ad nauseum... Perhaps now he understands he'll stop it, it was only ignorance...

(cs this is trolling)

[cHriS]

Shanna wrote: Ah see we have it! we've been calling cs a troll and he simply doesn't understand what a troll is, despite having it explained, ad nauseum... Perhaps now he understands he'll stop it, it was only ignorance...(cs this is trolling)
.."

Yes it does looking like trolling, as does your 'home and away' comments.

You give me one example of my trolling and to help this is how wiki define it....

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion

See if you can give an example before Hazel wakes up.

[Shanna]

What was "[1]"? did you leave that out so it didn't highlight your trolling

You lack the necessary component in "intent of provoking and emotional response". We were merely conversing.
What disruption? no one at that point was discussing on topic (we had gone off in a consensual, of the people actually posting in that period, tangent) and when the on topic conversation resumed the tangental conversation stopped.
The fact that your still complaining about it meets all the requirements
1)off topic
2)primary intent of provoking an emotional response
3)and otherwise disrupting on topic discussion
4)evasiveness
5)ignoring questions posed

[cHriS]

Shanna wrote: "What was "[1]"? did you leave that out so it didn't highlight your trolling

You lack the necessary component in "intent of provoking and emotional response". We were merely conversing.
What disru..."

Thats not an example. That is defining your interpretation of the wiki artical. Going off topic in many forums is a form of trolling.

Maybe because this site is not moderated then anything goes. If that is the case then no one has the right to pick and choose what is trolling and what is not. If you and others think I am trolling(and you still have not given an example, but Hazel will I'm sure)then my previous comment about the three guardians of this thread although said some what tongue in cheek, seems to hold water.

[cHriS]

Drew wrote: "Cerebus wrote: "cHriS/cs wrote: "You are wrong, I do answer the questions. Check back as far as you like and you will find an answer to what ever question you think i have not answered. When I am a..."

I would take Cerebus comments about me with a pinch of salt. He said something to me a while back that was 'out of order' even on this site, so I refused to reply to his comments.

Since then he have taken every opertunity to provoke me into a responce. Using the word troll, which he does in almost every comment about me is his way of trying to rattle my cage. Sad but true.

[Shanna]

Your example, did you miss it?

The fact that your still complaining about it meets all the requirements
1)off topic
2)primary intent of provoking an emotional response
3)and otherwise disrupting on topic discussion
4)evasiveness
5)ignoring questions posed
What was [1]? There being a [2] and [3] implies a [1]...

[Travis]

cHriS wrote: "Travis wrote: Actually, I never got an answer to my question about evidence of god.

There was an answer, you just did not read back far enough. The same question was asked of me on more than one o..."

No, you didn't answer. You need to read back. Because I've been waiting.

[Drew]

cHriS wrote: "Shanna wrote: "What was "[1]"? did you leave that out so it didn't highlight your trolling

You lack the necessary component in "intent of provoking and emotional response". We were merely conversi..."

cHriS wrote: "Drew wrote: "Cerebus wrote: "cHriS/cs wrote: "You are wrong, I do answer the questions. Check back as far as you like and you will find an answer to what ever question you think i have not answered..."

cHriS wrote: "Drew wrote: "Cerebus wrote: "cHriS/cs wrote: "You are wrong, I do answer the questions. Check back as far as you like and you will find an answer to what ever question you think i have not answered..."

Well Shanna just gave you examples but you also just proved it yourself by saying that you know Hazel WILL give us examples. You also gave an example yourself as well, the part about the three guardians of the thread, that was a comment meant to provoke and emotional response, disrupt the topic at hand, and evades the questions posed to you.

[cerebus]

cHriS/cs wrote: "Since then he have taken every opertunity to provoke me into a responce. Using the word troll, which he does in almost every comment about me is his way of trying to rattle my cage. Sad but true. ."
Troll. Sad but true.

[cerebus]

cHriS/cs wrote: "He said something to me a while back that was 'out of order' even on this site, so I refused to reply to his comments.."
Didn't you storm off in a huff claiming to leave the thread? Before coming back with a name change, another common troll tactic.....

[Yasmeen]

GUYS!!!!! you're all getting off topic by having a long disussion about who's off topic, who's a troll and how did that go??!!!! stop please, we're all having a very important discussion.

[Hazel]

DAMN STRAIGHT!! We were talking about the mentalist, now lets get back to it ;P

[Yasmeen]

Hazel wrote: "DAMN STRAIGHT!! We were talking about the mentalist, now lets get back to it ;P"

very funny :))

[cHriS]

Drew wrote: but you also just proved it yourself by saying that you know Hazel WILL give us examples. .."

I think you missed the point there. Hazel quite often comes to Shanna's rescue, so I added that bit to put Hazel off, I think it might have worked.

Drew wrote:the part about the three guardians of the thread, that was a comment meant to provoke and emotional response, disrupt the topic at hand, and evades the questions posed to you.

Did you get emotional by that comment?
What topic was disrupted?
Could you repete the question you want answered and I will answered it for you.

[Sarah]

I think some of the wrong questions are being asked here: 'why was it me who was bitten by a dog?' Why do things happen to anyone? Why did I get waved to this morning? Why did a fly land on my arm? It's simple cause and effect, the negative nature of the event doesn't change this. As for babies having distinct personalities; this is partly attributed to us pushing a personality upon things- we do this with animals too. We read into and humanise behaviour. But this is also because we all are a combination of our upbringing- or in a baby's case, the experiences that have befallen them so far- and individual genetic makeup which give us a disposition to act and react to things in a certain way. I fail to see how individuality in human beings cannot be explained by science...
The main question seems to presuppose that without religion and just science we would have a metaphorically soulless, cold society. It is important to remember that not just religion offers guidance and an insight into life. What about philosophy?? What about critical thought? These practises were in place way before organised religion, borne out of a natural curiosity to understand the world around us and to live as ethically as possible. Please do not make the mistake of thinking that these are pursuits that belong to religion alone. Crucially these allow for human beings to exercise their own reasoning when dealing with issues of morality or reality, rather than simply following doctrine.

[cHriS]

Sarah wrote:Please do not make the mistake of thinking that these are pursuits that belong to religion alone. "

I don't think that the majority of Christians (for example) think like that. It seems to be a perception that non religious folk have of them.

[Sarah]

I think some of the wrong questions are being asked here: 'why was it me who was bitten by a dog?' Why do things happen to anyone? Why did I get waved to this morning? Why did a fly land on my arm? It's simple cause and effect, the negative nature of the event doesn't change this. As for babies having distinct personalities; this is partly attributed to us pushing a personality upon things- we do this with animals too. We read into and humanise behaviour. But this is also because we all are a combination of our upbringing- or in a baby's case, the experiences that have befallen them so far- and individual genetic makeup which give us a disposition to act and react to things in a certain way. I fail to see how individuality in human beings cannot be explained by science...
The main question seems to presuppose that without religion and just science we would have a metaphorically soulless, cold society. It is important to remember that not just religion offers guidance and an insight into life. What about philosophy?? What about critical thought? These practises were in place way before organised religion, borne out of a natural curiosity to understand the world around us and to live as ethically as possible. They also allow the individual to question and use their own reason to tackle questions of morality and the nature of the world around us, rather than following doctrine. And what about music, art, literature? The world isn't black and white, it's not a case of a world with only religion and a pirely scientific world. With reasoned thought to support it, what's 'cold' about trying to find out the history of our universe or exploring other planets?