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Turn Coat (The Dresden Files, #11)
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message 1: by Sheri, Bookworm (new) - rated it 4 stars

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We will be starting Monday!


message 2: by Lys (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lys (lysrowan) There are four stories between Small Favor and this one in Side Jobs. I just finished the last one today, so I'm ready.
The first and last were kinda silly? But the middle two were pretty good. The third one dealt with the Carpenter house after what happened to Michael. And the second was narrated by delicious Thomas. mmm.


message 3: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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How many chapters/day?


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Lys (lysrowan) There are 49 chapters. The last one is pretty long, like always.
Maybe 10 a day?


message 5: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I will try to keep up.


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I'm going to read a couple more of the shorts today. 10 a day should be fine. I'm not reading anything else right now (should finish Iron Kissed today) so I should be able to keep up.


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Lys (lysrowan) I listened to the first chapter while I was in the shower this morning.
Harry harboring Morgan?
The world is ending!


message 8: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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That's what I was thinking.


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Morgan is so irritating!


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Lys (lysrowan) I'm on ch. 8. The skinwalker was intense. It was also interesting reading about it because Briggs references them, but I didn't know much about them. I am bummed about Kirby. He was in one of the short stories between Small Favor and this one, so it was like Butcher reminded you of him just so he could kill him. :(

Who do you guys think is behind it?

I wish Harry would spend some time working on fixing this thing for Thomas and Justine. I mean, srsly wizard. Do something useful.

That being said, I like Harry more in this book. So far...


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Alyssia wrote: "I'm on ch. 8. The skinwalker was intense. It was also interesting reading about it because Briggs references them, but I didn't know much about them. I am bummed about Kirby. He was in one of the s..."

I thought the same thing about the skin walker. It is sad that Dresden's friends are dropping like flies. Not sure who is behind the skinwalker.


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Lys (lysrowan) What about the Senior Council stuff?
I want it to be the Merlin, but I think that's too obvious?


message 13: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I thought he was corrupt when we were introduced to him. I don't like his attitude. I'm on chapter 27.


message 14: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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As always there is a lot going on in this one. I miss Michael.


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Lys (lysrowan) You're so fast, Leigh!

Hey, is your name pronounced 'Lee' or 'Lay'?


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I've read through 15. I still need to read the two short stories right before this one, then I'll be caught up.

I hate spiders!


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Lys (lysrowan) I'm on chapter 13 right now. I'm worried about Molly being the one watching Morgan. I'm also...doubting luccio. She's my call right now. I hope that's not it. :(


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Lys (lysrowan) Nope. Changed my mind. She's not my call.


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Alyssia wrote: "I'm on chapter 13 right now. I'm worried about Molly being the one watching Morgan. I'm also...doubting luccio. She's my call right now. I hope that's not it. :("

I was worried about Molly, too. And he left her with a shotgun?


message 20: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Alyssia wrote: "You're so fast, Leigh!

Hey, is your name pronounced 'Lee' or 'Lay'?"


Lee. My full name is Roanleigh but that is a mouth full so I cut it short.


message 21: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I had to read ahead because I didn't think I was going to be able to read today. I agree about Molly. I know she is not a kid but Dresden keeps putting her responsible as if she were an adult. I don't trust Morgan so I would never leave Molly, an apprentice with growing power. I am on the fence about Luccio.


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Luccio would be a perfect choice especially since she is cozying up to Dresden. No one would suspect her and she has plenty power.


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It's strange seeing Harry and Morgan work together. No one really knows Harry well if he thinks he has an ulterior motive for helping him.

Council politics are just messed up. (view spoiler)


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Nobody wants to know Harry. He has had a bad reputation since he was young and they still see him as that person.

Politics are messed up. So much backstabbing and always on the verge of war with everyone.


message 25: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Poor Thomas! It is not good.


message 26: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I so didn't see that coming.


message 27: by Lys (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lys (lysrowan) I'm only on chapter 17 because I opted to read Briggs instead. I won't have time to read today, so I'll try to catch up tomorrow.


message 28: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I want to know who the puppet master/master mind is.


message 29: by Sheri, Bookworm (new) - rated it 4 stars

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So do you think Harry and Luccio (view spoiler)


message 30: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I think they want companionship and of course sex but that's all it is. I don't trust Luccio.

Where are y'all in the book?


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I read through 32 last night. I asked the question because of the way Lara was looking at them...made me curious.


message 32: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Sheri wrote: "I read through 32 last night. I asked the question because of the way Lara was looking at them...made me curious."

That was an interesting situation. After further thought Lara would not have been able to do that to Harry if they were truly in love.

(view spoiler)


message 33: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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What about Madeline?


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Leigh wrote: "That was an interesting situation. After further thought Lara would not have been able to do that to Harry if they were truly in love."

Unless you're talking about something further along in the book, Lara never actually touched either of them, which is the way love would affect her. And then the curious look she gave them when Harry was Luccio into the car...made me curious to know what she was thinking.


message 35: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Is it jealousy? Does Lara through Luccio?


message 36: by Sheri, Bookworm (last edited Jun 19, 2014 08:28AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Could very well be jealousy. Seeing that Harry is taking care of Luccio (for some reason it through me off every time he calls her Anastasia), helping her when she is hurt...I'm sure no one takes care of Lara like that.


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Sheri wrote: "Could very well be jealousy. Seeing that Harry is taking care of Luccio (for some reason it through me off every time he calls her Anastasia), helping her when she is hurt...I'm sure no one takes ..."

Definitely not! After Lara got a taste of him in the last book, I know she wants more.

Harry is always protective over the people he cares about but extremely protect over women and children.


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Would you ladies mind putting off Changes for a week? I left home without it and won't be back until Wednesday. We can use this week to catch up on everything else :)


message 39: by Lys (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lys (lysrowan) That's fine with me! I am going out of town for part of next week too and was already worried about keeping up!
And I am only on 79% with this one right now.


message 40: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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That's fine with me. Y'all both have fun.


message 41: by Sheri, Bookworm (new) - rated it 4 stars

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So what do you ladies think of what happened with Luccio and Morgan? How about Thomas?


message 42: by Lys (new) - rated it 4 stars

Lys (lysrowan) Poor Thomas. :(
I'm so saaad. I also kind of loved it.
But sad.

Luccio I sorta saw coming. Not precisely, but a little. Peabody was a surprise, although I kept getting irritated with the descriptions of ink stained fingers, so then I felt dumb for not seeing it coming.

I don't understand how the frame job was meant to be for Luccio though, since Morgan was the one who received all the money in his account? Like, I feel I might have missed something there?


message 43: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (last edited Jun 23, 2014 05:05PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Sheri wrote: "So what do you ladies think of what happened with Luccio and Morgan? How about Thomas?"

I think Molly sensed something when no one else did. Morgan is hiding something and trying to protect Luccio.


message 44: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I am so sad about Thomas. I was surprised about Peabody. I so thought it was going to be someone else. I guess he made Peabody uninteresting so we wouldn't see it coming.


message 45: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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What is going to happen to him and Justine? She is worried.


message 46: by Sheri, Bookworm (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Lol, I was thinking bad thoughts about the ink stains, too :)


message 47: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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Sheri wrote: "Lol, I was thinking bad thoughts about the ink stains, too :)"

LOL


message 48: by Sheri, Bookworm (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I read all of the short stories except for the one that come after Changes. I liked the one Thomas narrated because we got into his head a little bit. It makes what happened at the end of Turn Coat that much worse.


message 49: by Leigh, ⚔️ Wonder Woman ⚔️ (new) - rated it 4 stars

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I guess I need to read the short stories.


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I liked them. They are all compiled in a book called Side Jobs to make them easier to find :)


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