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What Else Are You Reading - May 2017

I was lucky enough to get an early review copy of the audiobook for Assassin's Fate a few weeks back. I only just finished today. It's 40 hours long.
I find myself emotionally drained and for that I gave it ★★★★★ - My Review
I find myself emotionally drained and for that I gave it ★★★★★ - My Review



Shad wrote: "Just finished my reread of The Way of Kings. Starting on The Dragon Keeper after reading Rob's review of Assassin's Fate to get caught up on everything..."
I hope you enjoy it. I think you'll appreciate stuff more than way.
I hope you enjoy it. I think you'll appreciate stuff more than way.


I'm now onto assassin's fate, which I completely forgot I was waiting for and had to double check that I had read the first two. But I am only 5% in and am already hooked. Remembering the storyline and everything and really enjoying it.

In addition to not having some of the backstory for characters that appear, I've noticed in both the Liveship Traders and now the Rain Wild books that there were spoilers in the Tawny Man trilogy (not an issue if you read the others first). It isn't a big enough issue to keep you from enjoying the books if you read the different series out of order, but the proper order would make the reading better.
Yes. I've always recommended to people to read the Elderlings books in pub order:
Farseer Trilogy
Liveship Traders Trilogy
Tawny Man Trilogy
Rainwild Chronicles
Fitz & Fool
Farseer Trilogy
Liveship Traders Trilogy
Tawny Man Trilogy
Rainwild Chronicles
Fitz & Fool

Farseer Trilogy
Liveship Traders Trilogy
Tawny Man Trilogy
Rainwild Chronicles
Fitz & Fool"
I agree.

Farseer Trilogy
Liveship Traders Trilogy
Tawny Man Trilogy
Rainwild Chronicles
Fitz & Fool"
I agree."
That is very interesting. In the world of the books, Dragon Keeper actually goes back before the end of Tawny Man (view spoiler) . The way the beginning of Dragon Keeper is written, it feels spoiled if you read Tawny Man first.
It's been awhile since I've read Dragon Keeper, but it was written after Tawny Man, so I don't see how it can feel like a spoiler. If anything I looked at the Rainwild as expanding on the characters, locations and ideas expressed in Liveship, and some of the events of Tawny Man.
By the time you get to Fitz and Fool the Fitz stuff and the Liveship/Rainwild stuff no longer feels like 2 series set in different parts of the same world, but a more complete story.
By the time you get to Fitz and Fool the Fitz stuff and the Liveship/Rainwild stuff no longer feels like 2 series set in different parts of the same world, but a more complete story.

Well, that's not totally true. I was reading one of those "mega collections" of older SF. The first story had a hardboiled lawman arresting three crooks on an asteroid, then due to shipwreck joining up with a professor and his hot daughter. There was a scene where he knocked over some stuff in the ship's pantry just so he could kiss the daughter, who promptly slapped him. Later on she said she'd been hoping he would kiss her again. Yeaaaaahhhh....no. And someone actually said "why, you dirty rat."
So, Eragon. I got it just after reading the second story from the mega collection, an excerpt from Weapon Shops of Isher, which I reread only a few years ago.
The amateur nature of Eragon is obvious from the way the author uses "was" to describe everything. Writing 101, show don't tell, and don't use "was," use more detailed description.
And then there's the opening line, which competes with bad-writing contests for awfulness: "Wind howled through the night, carrying a scent that would change the world."
That opener reminded me of an actual bad-writing contest winner: "A hot toddy would do us all good on a freezing, death-laden night like tonight."
Beyond that, the first few chapters seem like a country song:
Ah wuz walkin' in the woodlands,
when I saw a magic stone land,
I done lost my best arrow
Shootin' at a deer.
Winter gon' be hungry
'Cause the family got no vittles
But just then the Lord must'a
Reached out and touched someone
For the Smithy helped me out and bough-ought some feueueueueood...
I'll finish Eragon. It's not completely bad, and the author is stealing from some actually good works, so the elements are okay. Probably won't go on to the other works.

When my wife and I split up, out of a couple thousand books it was the only fiction one that neither one of us wanted.

A book written by a 17-year-old who stole the plot from Star Wars? It's baffling this did not become a towering work of genius.

Borne. Will definitely be one of the best books of 2017, wouldn't be entirely surprised if it does end up being the best. I love Vandermeer's style of focusing on very small areas and a tiny cast of characters to really drive home the apocalypse. ★★★★★
Currently reading: Company Town. Because i needed some Canadian Content, i guess.

Well, that's not totally true. I was reading one ..."
How do you feel when I tell you the first book is the best one.
I read the first book when it came out I was 13 and I liked it a good bit. I mean it was competing with starwars tie in fiction and the later Dragonlance books soo it didn't really have much competition. Book 2 is bipolar in quality where everything with the brother Rolan??? is actually pretty good and the high point of the series, too bad everything involving the main character was utterly awful, then it just kept getting worse. The finale felt way too much like LOOK GUYS I'M BEING DIFFERENT which while yeah it kind of was it wasn't satisfying at all and you don't really get points for having a different ending to something very generic.


Or as I call it, the "Wheel of Time" issue. I met someone who absolutely adores Wheel of Time, and on that recommendation picked it up. On a similar recommendation I picked up Discworld, which was, well, fabulous. I've read all of them.
I never got into Wheel of Time. There are entire novels that take fewer pages than WoT takes to go from one village to another.
After a while I realized that some readers enjoy the "reading as tourism" aspect and really get into the world. So they will appreciate the volume. It's not for me, but whatever floats your boat.

Reminds me of my brother, who has read the entire Wheel of Time series, the entire Sword of Truth series, and basically no other books. Very intelligent guy (engineer) but not the strongest reader. I tried to introduce him to Discworld but I don't know if it took.



Working on




Finished Strange the Dreamer, which did indeed in a literal "to be continued". I loved the book right up until that point and then I was betrayed.
Currently reading The Book of Joan, which is kind of meh so far. Not really my thing, despite the fact that the book jacket sounded interesting.

I finished listening to Fight and Flight. It was fun, but not as good as some of the past volumes: ★★★½☆ - (My Review)

Is somebody else reading Gaiman at the moment?"
I'm reading American Gods and Trigger Warning: Short Fictions and Disturbances.


Is somebody else reading Gaiman at the moment?"
I'm reading American Gods and [book:Trigger Warning:..."
I loved the "Comming to America" chapters of American Gods.

Now reading A Closed and Common Orbit as my alt read for May. A good read so far.

Still working on Sorcerer to the Crown. It has interesting characters & setting. The writing is overdone and sometimes hard to get past.
Finished Dreamer's Pool & I really enjoyed it! It wasn't what I thought it would be. I had this idea that it would be an epic revenge themed adventure but it's not. Great characters & draws strong emotions. It's more like an old school, dark fairy tale.
Next: Dark Matter and Slaughterhouse-Five - Or I'll ditch and read up on Fitz & Fool.

Good to know about Mass Effect: Nexus Uprising. I really enjoyed the Drew Karpyshyn ME books so that's a bit disappointing.

I like some of them. They always derail the plot though. I'm interested to see what's going to happen to Shadow and then all of a sudden we're reading about totally new people. I like the book pretty well overall though. I'll finish it in a couple weeks probably.

Don't read the synopsis if you don't want to get spoiled.
[spoilers removed]"
I agree, I would have preferred not to know this!! I am halfway through the book and enjoying it. I hope there will be more books in this world, even if this is the end of the trilogy. Maybe a prequel?

My review ripping it up here: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...



I know I should finish up the Rainwild Chronicles before starting Assassin's Fate, but my library just got the ebook and I just wasn't as into Dragon Keeper as some of her other books. Fitz is calling to me!
The Rainwild books might be better than Dragon Keeper because things got better near the end of the book once the characters started having stuff to do more. It looks like the next one starts where Dragon Keeper ended.
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