The Diary of a Young Girl
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Anyone else hate this Diary
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Jun 10, 2014 10:20AM
Perhaps it will be easier for you if you detangle the concept of 'leisure reading' or even 'literature' and think about all that is written by Anne Frank as if you were a doctor analysing a diary from your dead patient trying to figure it out the cause of death. What 'illness' could she possibly suffer? Which symptoms does she present? Give it a try.
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This is a book about the mundane happenings of the WII through the eyes of a teenager. As a reader you are aware of the horror waiting for Anne, but she will never really live that simply because she never gets to write about it. The book is a tale about the average day for Jewish people during the reign of the Nazis. The book is not the best account but most certainly the truest of the genre.
Carrie wrote: "...excuse me?"your excused
Stop using GR like Facebook,Twitter and such. If you want a real discussion about the book- fine. Tell us why you hated it. If you just want to click "like" and move on, then go to Facebook to do so.
I think the books is a monumental and valuable piece of literature,and I completely respect that. It must have been so hard to live in that time. But Anne was a teenage girl. By being honest, she sometimes is a little annoying. And she kind of acted like a WW2 Bella when talking about Peter. I think this is glossed over because of all the tragic things (really tragic!! :( !)that happened to Anne and her family. Anne is awesome and had wonderful dreams, but she is a person, and all people have faults. Therefore, this book does. I don't hate it, it just isn't the best.
Hayley wrote: "somewhere in the middle it just lost all appeal"I'll bet it didn't have a lot of appeal for Anne while she was writing it. I think she'd rather have been back at home instead of waiting in constant fear for her family's inevitable arrest by the Nazis.
I loved this book and I honor the Memory of Anne who died so horribly not for anything she had done but for what she was born as. Annalika, go peddle your papers in some young adult forum
Anamika, I checked out your reading list and noticed you have an appetite for really good reads...although your post about the classic and historically relevant book 'The Diary of a Young Girl' by Anne Frank, is surprising. I have read many valuable and relevant books that don't employ the style of writing that I prefer to read, but I could never say I 'hate' them....perhaps there was something about the ordeal Anne Frank suffered that hits to close too home for you? If that is the case, then the story and the book would awaken feelings that you may not be ready to deal with? If that is the case, the power of the book to not only reveal the pain of one human, but to evoke emotional responses in others can not be denied. Memoirs, autobiographies and 'diaries' such as Anne Frank's, provide more than a story for some-they awaken healing...and in cases in which the individual is not ready to face deep rooted fears and feelings, the timing is the issue.
I am guessing...but you left out so much, in particular, you did not name a single reason for your 'hate' of the book,so I am left to suppose it may be personal issues behind your strong aversion to the diary. Please take the time to step back and use introspection to uncover what it is about this book that creates such strong emotion in you.
Sara
Anamika wrote: "One more time I repeat:I just want to know whether anyone else hates the diary.I understand that Anne Frank has suffered many difficulties and I'm not saying it is lame.Al I want to know is whether..."We know, Anamika, we know. But why did you start a discussion post if you just wanted to take a poll? Don't be mad when you get people discussing on your discussion topic. Look, here : Go to the book's page. Scroll down to the bar that says "community reviews". Hover your cursor over "rating details". It will show you all the numbers regarding how many people on Goodreads liked or disliked this book. No reasons, just numbers. You're Welcome.
Anamika wrote: "I literally hate this diary.I hated it even before I read it.But I thought I was being paranoid and read it,yet no change.Anyone else having the same problem?"No. Not at all.
Manuel wrote: "Carrie wrote: "...excuse me?"your excused"
Had you written "You'RE excused" I could have respect enough to find this funny.
NO,I don't think anyone else hates it.
Anamika wrote: "I see you all are jumping at me.But like Mark said,those who like it,ignore it.Think I'm some stupid idiot who doesn't understand the difficulties of Anne Frank.All I need is someone to say I agree..."Why is the need to have people agree with you so important? You're not going to get it with
a) this particular book
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b) the approach you have taken, declaring, without reason, your hatred.
You need to grow up and think before you make such sweeping statements.
no
i think its fine for you to dislike it, i mean its your opinion, but people are getting upset because this is something that happened in history. god, it was a genocide. they think your being inconsiderate to the genocide and all the people that suffered. but everybody should calm down, i dont think it was meant as an insult. she was just saying that she didnt like Anne. i personally liked the book, i think it was really inspiring and i think hate might be a bit of a strong word. but yeah, people should chill.
why tho?
ok...
sounds like she is doing some kind of research project on Anne Frank and needs an opposing POV from those who enjoyed it
Anamika, I sort of agree with Belle, we may be coming on too strong against you, and Belle explained it well. Many of us where in shock, because of the strong word you used and because of the horrors Ann lived through. You almost need to cancel your comment and talk to an adult you trust. I don't think reading our shocked comments will be helpful and as I said before, you will not find many people that have hated this book. It may have helped if we new why you feel so strongly about this book, but since there is reason you can't mention it, it may be best you talk to someone about it.
Dee wrote: "sounds like she is doing some kind of research project on Anne Frank and needs an opposing POV from those who enjoyed it"
If that is the case, maybe the moderators should shut down this thread... because using Anne Frank's diary in this way isn't really appropriate, I don't think. Anne deserves more respect than having her diary torn apart. She was brave young woman caught in extraordinary circumstances. And, again, this is her diary, her private thoughts, feelings, dreams - she didn't write her words to have them critiqued.
If that is the case, maybe the moderators should shut down this thread... because using Anne Frank's diary in this way isn't really appropriate, I don't think. Anne deserves more respect than having her diary torn apart. She was brave young woman caught in extraordinary circumstances. And, again, this is her diary, her private thoughts, feelings, dreams - she didn't write her words to have them critiqued.
Guys, if you checked out all the reviews of the Diary on GR you will find that almost all the one stars have been given by young readers. The most common critique is that although it is an important book, it is too whinny and wordy and even boring for them-- and many are boys.
Mae wrote: "Guys, if you checked out all the reviews of the Diary on GR you will find that almost all the one stars have been given by young readers. The most common critique is that although it is an importa..."Ah the attention span of boys is legendary unless it has to do with bikinis.
Mark wrote: "Ah the attention span of boys is legendary unless it has to do with bikinis. "
Yeah... not too much frolicking on the beach in this book... (and for the reviewers of her book who said she was whining... if I had been in her shoes, I would have been in a fetal position in a corner of that attic room, possibly sucking my thumb...)
Yeah... not too much frolicking on the beach in this book... (and for the reviewers of her book who said she was whining... if I had been in her shoes, I would have been in a fetal position in a corner of that attic room, possibly sucking my thumb...)
@ Babafaba(Hypnos)((Awesome Bob))(((Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore)))((((Scuttle))))well its not wrong that her thoughts have been criticized because that was her dads choice when he decided to publish the book. i mean, its a book that should be read in schools because i think it really inspires and also shows us that we are very lucky to be living in this time period and that there is more to life than we think and that we should appreciate every second. but yeah, im not being mean or anything, im just sayin. :)
yeah, i totally agrre with you. it is wrong. but that was her dad's fault. im kinda bitter sweet about that. like, yeah, some things should have been left out because thats something that wasnt meant to be showm to everybody, but it also makes the book real, you know.
I get the feeling that English is not Anamika's first language - look at her sentence structure - so there may well be a misunderstanding of certain words. I also think that she doesn't fully understood the reaction her statement would have.Personally I don't care enough to wait for an explanation - I have a life to live, more books to read, trips to plan....
yeah, she does have a lot of gramatical mistakes but so what? i agree. she didnt think people would react so strongly and i dont think she wanted to insult anybody. plus, she just didnt like Anne, i mean shes not saying the Holucaust was a good thing or anything. but yeah, maybe hate wasnt the best choice of wording. so its not that big of a deal. :)
I think everyone has their point across. Anamika hates this diary, okay, she can do whatever she wants, and everyone (to my knowledge) else on this thread does not. I understand that it's confusing because she doesn't give any reasons why, but I think it would get hard to get all these comments, mostly saying the same thing, ragging on her. I'm not saying the comments are wrong, I'm just saying that all this directed at one person can really lower self esteem. So this thread really shouldn't have been created, probably. Anyway, that's just my opinion here. You all can think what you want.
Agreed
Let's have respect for the author.
Joanne wrote: "Troublemika"hahahaha.....
Maya wrote: "I think everyone has their point across. Anamika hates this diary, okay, she can do whatever she wants, and everyone (to my knowledge) else on this thread does not. I understand that it's confusing..."You mention that the thread shouldn't have been created. But it was. And people are replying. In the world of social media, it is almost impossible to state "Those who like,please don't comment" essentially those who disagree, I don't want to hear your opinion. That is a red flag to get those who disagree to speak up. Though I think Animika meant it.
On a positive note for Animika, it seems like she is taking this thread seriously and evaluating her thoughts. And this subject in particular, is one that needs to be reassessed if you are hating a certain little girl for no particular reason. There are way too many people - who think the Holocaust was a hoax and was used as propaganda for some political means. Many of those are the extreme Christian Right, here in the USA. Unfortunately, I know some personally. No matter the evidence you use to support the facts, they dismiss is as government cover up. Much like the people that say 911 attacks were staged by the US government or Sandy Hook shootings were fake. These are usually the same group of people.
We do not know Animika's upbringing or religion. Maybe she does not connect to this time in history as actually being real. But being romanticized in the media. Maybe the brain is just having a problem connecting the reality of the situation. But I am encouraged that she kept the thread up and it seems like she has been reading comments as they go along. And she is taking the time to think it over. Yes, she was defensive in the beginning, but who wouldn't be. I jumped right on that wagon with everyone else.
Maybe this thread will be a watermark in her life. Something that makes her go "hhmmmmm." And re-think the worlds politics, religions and general ability to get along with one another.
Amika, take as long as you need. As long as the retrospection is heart felt and open minded.
*steps off soap box*
In Anamika's defence - she did not say she hated Anne Frank - she hated the diary. As for seeing this thread as a "watermark" - I doubt she will; if my guess at her age is correct - she's probably less than twenty years old - she'll shrug it off and not take it too seriously, which is probably for the best.
Joodith wrote: "Michielle: I have copied and pasted this from your comment (above) "id you are hating a certian little girl for no particular reason." (sic)In Animka's defence - she did not say she hated Anne Fr..."
Thank you Joodith for pointing out the typos. =) They have been corrected. We can only hope this will make people think. If not, well then we tried. Though, I began thinking she was just trolling, but since she has not been as present as the usual troll. Maybe this will make her think. You never know when something may click and change your thinking. And maybe I am being too optimistic.
Hi Michielle - it was not my intention to point out typos - I simply copied and pasted your comment about Animika hating Anne Frank when that was not what she had said ;)I think this is a young girl who hasn't thought through what she wanted to say, and unfortunately it has stirred up a hornet's nest. I shudder to think what might have happened had she been in a face-to-face situation; fortunately for her she has the shelter of the internet.
Anamika wrote: "I see you all are jumping at me.But like Mark said,those who like it,ignore it.Think I'm some stupid idiot who doesn't understand the difficulties of Anne Frank.All I need is someone to say I agree..."Go to the book's page.
Scroll down to the bar that says "community reviews". Hover your cursor over "rating details". It will show you all the numbers regarding how many people on Goodreads liked or disliked this book. No reasons, just numbers. You're welcome.
I wasn't sure you saw that the first time I said it.
Joodith wrote: "I think this is a young girl who hasn't thought through what she wanted to say"
I think this is very accurate. I also think that with the passage of time, people (especially younger people, i.e., those under 20) may not realize that this book is NON-fiction. Oh, and it doesn't have a ghostwriter, like many "celebrity" autobiographies, to jazz it up. So, what we are getting is a raw vision of what a young woman lived through with her family in an attic in Holland during World War II. Whether Otto Frank was right in publishing it or not, we should be glad he did. This book offers an important look at what happened, and what we should never forget happened. Frankly (no pun intended), I'm glad for this discussion because we shouldn't sweep this horrible time in history under the rug. And if this discussion sparks renewed curiosity in Miss Frank's diary, then it was worth it. :)
I think this is very accurate. I also think that with the passage of time, people (especially younger people, i.e., those under 20) may not realize that this book is NON-fiction. Oh, and it doesn't have a ghostwriter, like many "celebrity" autobiographies, to jazz it up. So, what we are getting is a raw vision of what a young woman lived through with her family in an attic in Holland during World War II. Whether Otto Frank was right in publishing it or not, we should be glad he did. This book offers an important look at what happened, and what we should never forget happened. Frankly (no pun intended), I'm glad for this discussion because we shouldn't sweep this horrible time in history under the rug. And if this discussion sparks renewed curiosity in Miss Frank's diary, then it was worth it. :)
AnAmika - apologies for the typo - I too was in a hurry after a long, fraught day. It's just a shame that something like your name being misspelled has "an impact" on you....but I suppose when there are no great issues in the world to worry about......
^^^ lol. Yes, she is sensitive about typos but has no empathy for a child victim of the holocaust.
Joodith wrote: "AnAmika - apologies for the typo - I too was in a hurry after a long, fraught day. It's just a shame that something like your name being misspelled has "an impact" on you....but I suppose when the..."thats a really rude thing to say.
Belle wrote: "Joodith wrote: "AnAmika - apologies for the typo - I too was in a hurry after a long, fraught day. It's just a shame that something like your name being misspelled has "an impact" on you....but I ..."nope, just very sarcastic.
But she undoubtedly will give her reasons for doing so in a few days when Anamika will explain her hatred.
Mark wrote: "Belle wrote: "Joodith wrote: "AnAmika - apologies for the typo - I too was in a hurry after a long, fraught day. It's just a shame that something like your name being misspelled has "an impact" on..."lol. your picture is creepy as shit...i like it. :)
My comment is tongue in cheek - and I totally agree with Carrie. She's Oh So Sensitive about how her name is spelled, but not about anything that is important.
I think it is helpful if we avoid "hate" all together.
Lol this argument has taken a turn to the entertainingly mean. Sarcasm about typos and names and lack of sympathy. You guys are too much.
I think I might be able to guess the subject of your possible research topic, Anamika. Well, as I said before, I pray this sparks a renewed interest in that era and the brave souls who lived then. Blessings to you.
This has long fallen off the wagon....
Liz, I almost have to agree with you that someone needed attention. I can not begin to tell you how upsetting it was to read "did anyone hate this book..." You do not have to be a Jew or a young teenage girl trapped in a dark space with no real knowledge of what was happening around you, to appreciate her story. Yes, it may be an attention getter. To that poster I would say, pick on someone that may be able to defend themselves. Not a young girl that felt compelled to share her story during one of the most horrific periods in history. I am offended by the comment and embarrassed for the poster.
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We all bring our own experiences, past, education or lack thereof, and background to any given work, whether it be written, filmed, painted, played or whatever. Hating a given work before experiencing it says more about the person feeling the emotions than about the work itself.As for hating a person we don't know or who is long dead, it doesn't harm them a particle; however, it can be like drinking acid to the person suffering such a powerful emotion without purpose.
So sad that you even felt compelled to post the question. You simply can not judge the book from a negative view. I challenge you to find a book critic that would attempt to do so. Nor can you or should you, declare hatred for it. Freedom of speech is so important, try not to waste it on mindless rants. Do you just want to get people angry or start a useless debate? Congratulations...you did just that. Some of us are so grateful for the short life of this young woman. She wrote as a pre-teen in a time when the world was burning around her. A pre-teen girl, not an established author. She opened her soul to us. Please think before you post. It is an open forum however most that post do so with decorum and thoughtfulness. I won't judge you as you have judged a diary by a teenage Jew. Hiding for her life. We should all be grateful that she had the presence of mind to record those last days of her life. I guess now you will be on to Elie Wiesel or Helen Keller. Good luck with your project...whatever it is. Yes, I am part Jew and 100% human.
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