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If you decide to focus on music, there is:


and of course the city is known for the cocktail:


and for the alltime cult favorite offbeat humor novel based in the Crescent City:





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http://www.civilwar.org/

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I second that site, Jill, it is awesome.

Linda, here is a new book published just 11 months ago that lists many Civil war sites.
Placenames of the Civil War: Cities, Towns, Villages, Railroad Stations, Forts, Camps, Islands, Rivers, Creeks, Fords and Ferries

Synopsis
Despite the plethora of books about the Civil War, the origins of many of the placenames associated with the conflict remain a mystery. This gazetteer provides information on nearly 1600 sites, including not only locations of battles and skirmishes but also hospitals, prison camps, military academies, factories and navy yards, both North and South. Also listed are islands, rivers, creeks, fords, ferries and railroad stations, as well as many temporary fort and camp names. From Abbeville, Georgia, where Jefferson Davis stopped in May 1865 days before his capture near Irwinville, to Yorktown, Virginia, which was besieged by General George B. McClellan at the start of the Peninsula campaign, entries explain the origin of each placename and its wartime connections. An appendix listing town and city population figures from the 1860 census completes this informative supplement for Civil War scholars and enthusiasts.

Try:
[bookcover:The Official Virginia Civil W..."
Thanks, Bryan. A couple of these books will be very helpful

Hello - Can anyone recommend an interesting non-fiction book suitable for a High School student that addresses some aspect of American History between 1820-1860 "concerning the United States and its citizens as a new nation"?
All suggestions welcome. Thanks!








or

(time period 1850s)
or



Should I post this on the Genocide thread as well?


Thanks! That looks like what I am looking for

I am trying to remember the title of another book that I read years ago that covers the history of genocidal actions in parts of Africa, Australia and the United States against the first inhabitants. As soon as I can find it I will let you know.
The best Armenian one is the following which I posted in the Middle East threads:
by Grigoris Balakian
This was on the Yale site: (Kiernan)
http://www.yale.edu/gsp/publications/...
by William A. Schabas
And this is an excellent book on the problem itself - worth reading:
by
Samantha Power
This one won countless awards including:
Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction (2003)
Anisfield-Wolf Book Award (2003)
National Book Critics Circle Award for General Nonfiction (2002)

This was on the Yale site: (Kiernan)
http://www.yale.edu/gsp/publications/...

And this is an excellent book on the problem itself - worth reading:


This one won countless awards including:
Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction (2003)
Anisfield-Wolf Book Award (2003)
National Book Critics Circle Award for General Nonfiction (2002)

I have moved his request here.
Recommendations needed - WW2 Eastern Front
Hi there
I'm fascinated in books about the Easte..."
Notes Of A Russian SniperRed Road From Stalingrad: Recollections of a Soviet InfantrymanZitadelle: The German Offensive Against the Kursk Salient 4-17 July 1943Tigers in the Mud: The Combat Career of German Panzer Commander Otto Carius
Here are a few books that might interest you.These are books that ive read more than once and are superb reading.
Hello Adrian, welcome. I noticed that you had not introduced yourself. Please feel free to introduce yourself on this thread:
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Also, we have rules for citations: bookcover, author's photo if available and always the author's link:
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We really appreciate your helping Jack. Thank you.
Here is how the books that you recommended should be cited on the History Book Club:
by Mansur Drabkin (no photo)
by Mark Healy (no photo)
by Otto Carius (no photo)
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This way folks will know who you are and be more willing to converse.
Also, we have rules for citations: bookcover, author's photo if available and always the author's link:
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We really appreciate your helping Jack. Thank you.
Here is how the books that you recommended should be cited on the History Book Club:




I am trying to remember the title of another book that I read years ago that covers the history of genocidal actions in parts of Africa, Australia and the United States against the first..."
Thanks Rick


This was on the Yale site: (Kiernan)
http://www.yale.e..."
Thanks Bentley

I finally managed to find that book that I mentioned that may answer some of the questions you posted in regards to genocide and some countries response:

Description:
The past five centuries a shocking series of confrontations have witnessed between European nations and millions of indigenous peoples, and these cultural encounters still resonate strongly to this day. Rivers of Blood, Rivers of Gold is an essential book for understanding the true impact of imperialism. Beautifully and passionately written, it provides a judicious and exhaustively researched indictment of European exploitation. Focusing on four collisions between Europeans and indigenous cultures -- the conquest of Mexico, the British onslaught on the Tasmanian Aborigines, the uprooting of the Apaches, and the German campaign against the tribes of Southwest Africa -- Mark Cocker illuminates the fundamental experiences that underlay the colonial experience around the globe. Beyond making a persuasive -- and balanced -- case against colonialism, Cocker also sustains a riveting, often harrowing story. Rivers of Blood, Rivers of Gold is narrative history in its most impressive form -- engaging, accessible, and thought provoking.



The Honourable Company: A History of the English East India Company

Synopsis
Conventional wisdom has it that the commercial imperialism of the early English trading companies was intertwined with the political imperialism of the expanding British empire. In this reexamination of the English East India Company, Keay, an author and broadcaster specializing in Asian history, acknowledges that "but for the Company there would have been not only no British India but also no global British Empire." But he also shows that the triumph of imperialism helped bring about the downfall of the company by eliminating its monopolies and creating conditions for the 1857 Indian mutiny. Keay's title is intentionally ironic; he reports, "venal and disreputable, [the company's] servants were believed to have betrayed their race by begetting a half caste tribe of Anglo-Indians, and their nation by corrupt government and extortionate trade." Published two years ago in Britain and cited as one of that year's three best books by the Financial Times (London), The Honourable Company fascinatingly illuminates one of the lesser-known chapters of Asian history.
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Merchant Kings: When Companies Ruled the World, 1600--1900


Synopsis
Commerce meets conquest in this swashbuckling story of the six merchant-adventurers who built the modern world
It was an era when monopoly trading companies were the unofficial agents of European expansion, controlling vast numbers of people and huge tracts of land, and taking on governmental and military functions. They managed their territories as business interests, treating their subjects as employees, customers, or competitors. The leaders of these trading enterprises exercised virtually unaccountable, dictatorial political power over millions of people.
The merchant kings of the Age of Heroic Commerce were a rogue’s gallery of larger-than-life men who, for a couple hundred years, expanded their far-flung commercial enterprises over a sizable portion of the world. They include Jan Pieterszoon Coen, the violent and autocratic pioneer of the Dutch East India Company; Peter Stuyvesant, the one-legged governor of the Dutch West India Company, whose narrow-minded approach lost Manhattan to the British; Robert Clive, who rose from company clerk to become head of the British East India Company and one of the wealthiest men in Britain; Alexandr Baranov of the Russian American Company; Cecil Rhodes, founder of De Beers and Rhodesia; and George Simpson, the “Little Emperor” of the Hudson’s Bay Company, who was chauffeured about his vast fur domain in a giant canoe, exhorting his voyageurs to paddle harder so he could set speed records.
Merchant Kings looks at the rise and fall of company rule in the centuries before colonialism, when nations belatedly assumed responsibility for their commercial enterprises. A blend of biography, corporate history, and colonial history, this book offers a panoramic, new perspective on the enormous cultural, political, and social legacies, good and bad, of this first period of unfettered globalization.
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Peter wrote: "I am looking for a book that explores different responses to genocide by the country/society that commits the genocide. E.g., compare how America and Australia have apologized for mistreatment of a..."
Peter, you might be interested in these:
by
Samantha Power
by James Waller
Peter, you might be interested in these:




Any suggestions?
This is a novel which has taken some liberties with Mozart's life in some instances but it has been well received:
Marrying Mozart
by
Stephanie Cowell
Synopsis:
Amadeus meets Little Women in this irresistibly delightful historical novel by award-winning author Stephanie Cowell. The year is 1777 and the four Weber sisters, daughters of a musical family, share a crowded, artistic life in a ramshackle house. While their father scrapes by as a music copyist and their mother secretly draws up a list of prospective suitors in the kitchen, the sisters struggle with their futures, both marital and musical—until twenty-one-year-old Wolfgang Mozart walks into their lives. Bringing eighteenth-century Europe to life with unforgiving winters, yawning princes, scheming parents, and the enduring passions of young talent, Stephanie Cowell’s richly textured tale captures a remarkable historical figure—and the four young women who engage his passion, his music, and his heart.
or for a non fiction book
Mozart's Women: His Family, His Friends, His Music
by Jane Glover
Synopsis:
Throughout his life, Mozart was inspired, fascinated, amused, aroused, hurt, disappointed and betrayed by women -- and he was equally complex to them. But, first and last, Mozart loved and respected women. His mother, his sister, his wife, her sisters, and his female patrons, friends, lovers and fellow artists all figure prominently in his life. And his experience, observation and understanding of women reappear, spectacularly, in the characters he created. As one of our finest interpreters of Mozart's work, Jane Glover is perfectly placed to bring these remarkable women -- both real and dramatized -- vividly to life. We meet Mozart's mother, Maria Anna, and his beloved and devoted sister, Nannerl, perhaps as talented as her brilliant brother but, owing to her sex, destined to languish at home while Wolfgang and their father entertained the drawing rooms of Europe. We meet, too, Mozart's "other family" -- his in-laws, the Webers: Constanze, his wife, much maligned by history, and her sisters, Aloysia, Sophie and Josefa. Aloysia and Josefa were highly talented singers for whom Mozart wrote some of his most remarkable music. Aloysia was the first woman whom Mozart truly and passionately loved, and her eventual rejection of him nearly broke his heart. Constanze, though a less gifted singer, proved a steadfast and loving wife and -- after Mozart's death -- his extremely efficient widow, consolidating his reputation and ensuring that his most enduring legacy, his music, never be forgotten.
"Mozart's Women" is their story. But it is also the story of the women in his operas, all of whom were -- like his sister, his mother, his wife and his entire female acquaintance -- restrained by the conventions and strictures of eighteenth-century society. Yet through his glorious writing, he identified and released the emotions of his characters. Constanze in "Die Entfuhrung aus dem Serail"; Ilia and Elettra in "Idomeneo"; Susanna and the Countess in "Le nozze di Figaro"; Donnas Anna and Elvira in "Don Giovanni"; Fiordiligi, Dorabella and Despina in "Cosi fan tutte"; Pamina and the Queen of the Night in "Die Zauberflote: " are all examined and celebrated. They hold up the mirror to their audiences and offer inestimable insight, together constituting yet further proof of Mozart's true genius and phenomenal understanding of human nature. Rich, evocative and compellingly readable, "Mozart's Women" illuminates the music and the man -- but, above all, the women who inspired him.
Marrying Mozart


Synopsis:
Amadeus meets Little Women in this irresistibly delightful historical novel by award-winning author Stephanie Cowell. The year is 1777 and the four Weber sisters, daughters of a musical family, share a crowded, artistic life in a ramshackle house. While their father scrapes by as a music copyist and their mother secretly draws up a list of prospective suitors in the kitchen, the sisters struggle with their futures, both marital and musical—until twenty-one-year-old Wolfgang Mozart walks into their lives. Bringing eighteenth-century Europe to life with unforgiving winters, yawning princes, scheming parents, and the enduring passions of young talent, Stephanie Cowell’s richly textured tale captures a remarkable historical figure—and the four young women who engage his passion, his music, and his heart.
or for a non fiction book
Mozart's Women: His Family, His Friends, His Music

Synopsis:
Throughout his life, Mozart was inspired, fascinated, amused, aroused, hurt, disappointed and betrayed by women -- and he was equally complex to them. But, first and last, Mozart loved and respected women. His mother, his sister, his wife, her sisters, and his female patrons, friends, lovers and fellow artists all figure prominently in his life. And his experience, observation and understanding of women reappear, spectacularly, in the characters he created. As one of our finest interpreters of Mozart's work, Jane Glover is perfectly placed to bring these remarkable women -- both real and dramatized -- vividly to life. We meet Mozart's mother, Maria Anna, and his beloved and devoted sister, Nannerl, perhaps as talented as her brilliant brother but, owing to her sex, destined to languish at home while Wolfgang and their father entertained the drawing rooms of Europe. We meet, too, Mozart's "other family" -- his in-laws, the Webers: Constanze, his wife, much maligned by history, and her sisters, Aloysia, Sophie and Josefa. Aloysia and Josefa were highly talented singers for whom Mozart wrote some of his most remarkable music. Aloysia was the first woman whom Mozart truly and passionately loved, and her eventual rejection of him nearly broke his heart. Constanze, though a less gifted singer, proved a steadfast and loving wife and -- after Mozart's death -- his extremely efficient widow, consolidating his reputation and ensuring that his most enduring legacy, his music, never be forgotten.
"Mozart's Women" is their story. But it is also the story of the women in his operas, all of whom were -- like his sister, his mother, his wife and his entire female acquaintance -- restrained by the conventions and strictures of eighteenth-century society. Yet through his glorious writing, he identified and released the emotions of his characters. Constanze in "Die Entfuhrung aus dem Serail"; Ilia and Elettra in "Idomeneo"; Susanna and the Countess in "Le nozze di Figaro"; Donnas Anna and Elvira in "Don Giovanni"; Fiordiligi, Dorabella and Despina in "Cosi fan tutte"; Pamina and the Queen of the Night in "Die Zauberflote: " are all examined and celebrated. They hold up the mirror to their audiences and offer inestimable insight, together constituting yet further proof of Mozart's true genius and phenomenal understanding of human nature. Rich, evocative and compellingly readable, "Mozart's Women" illuminates the music and the man -- but, above all, the women who inspired him.

Marrying Mozart

Thanks Bentley! I will pass those on to her. If anyone has more suggestions, please let me know and I will pass them onto my friend.
Thanks again!

The Pianist in the Dark

HISTORICAL FICTION
Maria-Theresa von Paradis, the only daughter of the secretary of the empress of Austria, was an exceptionally gifted child. By the age of seventeen, she was a full-fledged virtuoso, playing for the royal family, acclaimed for her beauty and talent . . . and because she was blind. Her father, unable to accept her condition despite her soaring musical gifts, enlists the help of Franz Anton Mesmer, the forerunner of the modern practice of hypnotism, where Maria-Theresa discovers the passions and emotions from which her blindness had previously protected her.





Both great reads Frank - and thank you for noting that the second book is not non fiction - although back in the days it was published it was simply considered a "novel" but it does capture the essence of that era - the Roaring Twenties.
One thing that we ask everyone to do is please note any books cited that are fiction or novels as such since we are primarily a non fiction book club which does also discuss good historical fiction. But we let our members know in advance which is which.
One thing that would be easier for you Frank is simply type your post as you would and then place the citations at the bottom like Jerome did in message 541.
Good job on the citations - they have all of the elements.
One thing that we ask everyone to do is please note any books cited that are fiction or novels as such since we are primarily a non fiction book club which does also discuss good historical fiction. But we let our members know in advance which is which.
One thing that would be easier for you Frank is simply type your post as you would and then place the citations at the bottom like Jerome did in message 541.
Good job on the citations - they have all of the elements.



Hi Frank,
HISTORICAL FICTION
This biographical novel is showing up on the bestsellers list:
Z: A Novel of Zelda Fitzgerald


Also, check out
The Jazz Bird

I just want to point out once again that a novel is not historical fiction and in the case of The Jazz Bird - (this is considered a novel which is only based on a true story so be careful) and please let folks know. Not all novels even if they are based on a true story are historical fiction either....they are simply novels as in the case of both above. Even though the authors did a great job with the details. But both are novels - nonetheless.
NOVEL - FICTION ALTHOUGH BASED ON A TRUE STORY
by Craig Holden
NOVEL - FICTION ALTHOUGH BASED ON A TRUE STORY









I am not looking for a book on women's rights in the U.S. (I have some of those!)
I am looking for a broader view of the rights of women in Europe, Asia and North America.
Any ideas would be appreciated/ Thanks
Shirin Ebadi comes to mind about how things have gone from bad to worse for women in Iran - are you interested in the Middle East?
by
Shirin Ebadi









This would be a very current and readable book for women's issues in Asia and parts of Europe. Not so much for North America. I watched the companion documentary to this book and it was quite informative.

Mikey B., you might also try this one:




Synopsis:
Purchase of this book includes free trial access to www.million-books.com where you can read more than a million books for free. This is an OCR edition with typos. Excerpt from book: CHAPTER II THE INNER RESULTS OF THE WOMAN MOVEMENT If I now start out to consider the woman-soul as it has developed itself under the influence of all the circumstances mentioned above, perhaps many will expect a theory about the character of the feminine soul life. But, at present, when the greatest problems of psychology are in revolution and undecided, such a theory would be as scientifically impossible as aphorisms are unanswerable. Likewise, conclusions, based upon experience, concerning the psychic peculiarity of woman would be in this chaotic transition period, superficial, if they attempted to be absolute. Only one decided opinion about the spiritual life of woman I cannot —in consequence of my monistic-evolutionary conception of the spiritual and physical life— refrain from expressing. This opinion is that, in the one hundred thousand years at least in which woman has practised the physical maternal functions, the spiritual attributes essential for motherhood must have been so strongly developed by her that this development has had, and still has always, as a result a pronounced difference be- tween the feminine and masculine soul—that is to say, everywhere where the soul, as well as the body of a woman, is adapted and desirous of motherhood—a fitness and readiness which can still be called the normal condition. The spiritual qualities which maternity required have become the attributes of "womanliness," the qualities which paternity required, have become the attributes of'' manliness.'' This difference has become quite as significant for the functional fitness of both sexes for the perpetuation and development of the race, as for the wealth of life of each new generation. The obliteration or retention of this difference is therefore a vital question for mankind..
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