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For scifi Im less sure. My dads love for Star Wars most definitely helped, as did movies like Planet of the Apes and War of the Worlds, but I didn't read too much scifi till I picked up H.G Wells. In highschool I read the Dutch book 'de engelenmaker' (im not sure if its translated in English, but it literally means the angelmaker), which is about a bit of a weird docter and cloning. Even though it was quite a big book, it was such a refreshment between all those Boring books we had to read. Because I have always been fascinated with Biology, books like that, the island of dr moreau and the day of the triffids were just So interesting to me.
Definitely Tolkien and Pratchett for me. Discworld dragged me right in. I started with Thief of Time.

Harry Potter when I was a teenager, then I stopped reading like a fiend for quite some time. Not really sure why, but A Song of Ice and Fire dragged me back in and now I'm catching up on all kinds of amazing books that I never knew about until I joined Goodreads.

I grew up watching star wars (IV, V, VI) pretty near on a monthly basis, and my parents were big I to all the star trek series so I would watch that with them. But what got me into sci fi and fantasy the most would have to be video games honestly. Growing up playing the NES and SNES, playing games like final fantasy, contra, mega man, and soanu other games started the love for the genres. Then PC games like heroes quest, space quest, then later Baldurs Gate, Icewind Dale and stuff like that.
That's where my reading started to take off after finding out those games were actually based of books. So I have R.A. Salvatore and his Drizzt books for breaking me into reading.
That's where my reading started to take off after finding out those games were actually based of books. So I have R.A. Salvatore and his Drizzt books for breaking me into reading.

Sci-fi books came a bit later, and still are generally lacking in quantity. I picked up Snow Crash at a garage sale and really enjoyed it. Stranger in a Strange Land (coincidentally nominated this month) was another first.
I was NUTS over superhero comics as a kid, especially Spider-Man, but I loved most of the Marvel and DC universe up until the mid-90's or so, with back issues going all the way to the 60's.
Outside of that I always gravitated to both genres in everything else--TV, movies, video games, even card games (Magic the Gathering)... Star Wars, Star Trek, Final Fantasy, Super Mario RPG, Baldur's Gate, Deus Ex, King's Quest, Space Quest, Gargoyles, Willow, Princess Bride. Even the LOTR cartoons which were bizarre as heck. There was a live action production of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe that I remember loving, but may be very corny if I ever saw it today.

I was disappointed to see many other offerings were not so great LOL But Mystery Science Theater 3000 fixed a lot of that :D

I wonder what my first sci-fi was... Anne McCaffrey? That's pretty fantasy-oriented too though. Hmm. Possibly Tad Williams' Otherland books did it.

I think the first real scifi I read though must've been DJ MacHale's Pendragon series (or if that's too fantasy) then Fahrenheit 451 as a sixth grader, and then Harrison Bergeron, 1984, and Frankenstein in the tenth grade.
Andrew if I hadn't been on my phone at the time my list would have been almost identical to yours!


Perhaps there is a list on GR too.
Nice to see all those titles. Maybe we should make a list with best sff gateway books, to recommend to non-geek friends.
Magic the gathering.. I almost forgot about that.. Used to read the 'Duelist' en dream about the ultimate deck.
After Harry Potter I switched from Dutch too reading these genres in English. A translation just isnt the same. For example Flowers for Algeron is translated as 'The genius in a mousetrap'. Now the titles misses the emotional touch it has in English.

I don't think he meant to buy the Adams books for me. I just kept them. :)"
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what kind of horror did you read? I'm interested in the genre, but it seems (from the outside lol) to be as bad/worse than scifi when it comes to like, destroying women in horrible ways and also not scary. So I've been a little hesitant to get into the genre without someone pointing out what books to try

For SF it was a small book 'choose your own story' about a person (me) who time travel in a mirror. Then I fell in love with Asimov.
For me it was Harry Potter, Dragonlance and His Dark Materials that took me into Fantasy.
I've always loved Star Wars and Star Trek for as long as I can remember but wouldn't be able to tell you exactly which book dragged me in to reading Sci-Fi....
I've always loved Star Wars and Star Trek for as long as I can remember but wouldn't be able to tell you exactly which book dragged me in to reading Sci-Fi....

I don't think he meant to buy the Adams books for me. I just kept them. :)"
that's the best thing I've heard all day
what kind of horror did you read? I'm interested in the..."
just read a book called The Summoning. KInd of Horror maybe more paranormal. However, Koontz has some pretty horror genre books and of course Stephen King.

As for Science Fiction, Galaxies Like Grains of Sand (Brian W. Aldiss) and Ray Bradbury's Dark They Were, and Golden Eyed.


As a kid, I also read some abridged versions of Verne, but felt nothing special for them, so I liked other genres better at that age.

As for SF, movies and TV grabbed me in ways that few books in the genre ever did. There are a few I love, but I'm a fantasy/horror guy first.
My mom is a huge sci fi fan, so it was a white before I realized other genres even existed. When I was little I'd look for books on magic. Then I found the Chronicles of Narnia and Chronicles of Prydain and A Wrinkle in Time. In high school I found Lord of the Rings and Ray Bradbury and Orson Scott Card. I was an adult when Harry Potter came out, which is making me feel old now.

My 1st SF was the Hitchhiker's Guide around the same time as the series was given to me by a neighbor's kid
But Redwall was the series that made a big impact that made me into a SFF reader as all my friends was reading, and my teacher that loved reading had all of them. He even went to England to pick up the new books, so he could have them early.
I actually came to His Dark Materials quite late, reading it about five years ago. Certainly works as a gateway book though. I know it was the first fantasy for quite a few around my age
Hmm. I"m older than at least some of folks on here, and I always read "above my level" when I was a kid. I can't say for certain which was first, but I'm pretty sure it was either The Chronicles of Narnia or The Lord of the Rings. Those are among the first two fantasy series I remember reading. My memories go back a good ways into the dim mists of childhood, and I can't remember a time when I hadn't read them. I know I had the Narnia boxed set and the Lord of the Rings with the mostly white covers back when I was in first grade.
One wrote: "Would you still recommend them to starting sf & f readers?"
Depends on age. Narnia is good for almost anyone to read, bearing in mind there's a lot of Christian imagery , in case you object to that sort of thing.
Lord of the Rings is a more complex plot, so it might not work for a younger reader, although the Hobbit would, which is sort of a prequel anyway.
Other good "intro" books/series, IMHO, are Lloyd Alexander's Taran Wanderer, Susan Cooper's the Dark is Rising, Anne McCaffery's original Dragonriders Trilogy, and the Sword of Shanara (however the heck you spell that).
Depends on age. Narnia is good for almost anyone to read, bearing in mind there's a lot of Christian imagery , in case you object to that sort of thing.
Lord of the Rings is a more complex plot, so it might not work for a younger reader, although the Hobbit would, which is sort of a prequel anyway.
Other good "intro" books/series, IMHO, are Lloyd Alexander's Taran Wanderer, Susan Cooper's the Dark is Rising, Anne McCaffery's original Dragonriders Trilogy, and the Sword of Shanara (however the heck you spell that).

I am actually reading the Narnia Chronicles for the first time now (as a project with my niece). I read The Hobbit only 2 years ago when the movies came out.
As for recommending fantasy and sci-fi, I think you have to look at what that person has already read and liked. If they are into classic literature LOTR is a great start. If they like action, something like Red Rising. Comedy? Douglas Adams...etc.

I read the Pern books at a later age (a few years ago) and didnt like them. Influences of darker ASOIAF?
I did enjoy the Hitchhikers Guide books, but somehow just can't consider them scifi. I would recommend them as fun book, but not as gateway sf


Ever since I was a kid I would see Dragonlance books and think "WOW, that's the kind of book I'd like to read one day!" LOL When I finally actually started reading, I never quite understood where to start. And now that Wikipedia and GoodReads makes it easy, I kind of forgot about them! Added to my to-read pile ^_^
Tokio wrote: "My gateway into fantasy has be the D&D monster handbook. I would look at all the terrifying and cute monsters that was pictured on the pages, and help my dad plan his next d&d game by choosing the ..."
I remember the WarCraft II RTS came with a booklet that gave lore on the world and little character/profile summaries of some important figures in each race. I used to read it over repeatedly and even drew my own additions. Not too long after that I ended up picking up some Merlin, Narnia, and Hobbit books :)

I so totally agree about the dragonlance books...really love the story lines in those. I tore through the ones about the twins series - actually I am thinking a reread I enjoyed them so much.
Mine, like most people, was The Hobbit. We went on a family holiday when I was about 11 I think and my parents put the audio book in the car instead of the radio. I never wanted to get out of the car!
From there it was Terry Pratchett, Piers Anthony, Terry Brooks, some of the Forgotten Realms books. Anything my parents had. Like Wayland I constantly got told 'I was reading above my level'. I think I upset my English teacher when I turned up to silent reading with the same book as him.
From there it was Terry Pratchett, Piers Anthony, Terry Brooks, some of the Forgotten Realms books. Anything my parents had. Like Wayland I constantly got told 'I was reading above my level'. I think I upset my English teacher when I turned up to silent reading with the same book as him.

Besides that I played a lot of games, and saw a lot of movies which already made me love the fantasy and sf setting. But I wasn't really into reading books. But the combination of Gotrek & Felix and a new found interest in D&D made me change that.
I realised I never answered this, and it's a great question.
For me, I'm not entirely sure. I just remember always loving SFF. I remember reading The Hobbit aged 8 or so, and of course Harry Potter. I loved William Nicholson's Wind Singer series, plus a series by Marianne Curley called the Guardians of Time which I read in my early teens.
I think that perhaps it was less a gateway book than my dad showing interest in SFF, and me copying him? :P
For me, I'm not entirely sure. I just remember always loving SFF. I remember reading The Hobbit aged 8 or so, and of course Harry Potter. I loved William Nicholson's Wind Singer series, plus a series by Marianne Curley called the Guardians of Time which I read in my early teens.
I think that perhaps it was less a gateway book than my dad showing interest in SFF, and me copying him? :P


I'm sorry but I have to say that my dad has no clue whatsoever about Fantasy and Sci-Fi ;) . For me it was my mom with whom I share a love in that particular genre with things as The Lord of the Rings and Star Wars.

Mike wrote: "One wrote: "Seem like all the dad's had a lot of influences in this. And I'm being example to my kids right now."
I'm sorry but I have to say that my dad has no clue whatsoever about Fantasy and S..."
My mom is much more hard-core than my dad. I used to think sci fi was a "girly" thing. My dad did like the old sci-fi movies, though: "Forbidden Planet," "Black Hole," "Tron."
I'm sorry but I have to say that my dad has no clue whatsoever about Fantasy and S..."
My mom is much more hard-core than my dad. I used to think sci fi was a "girly" thing. My dad did like the old sci-fi movies, though: "Forbidden Planet," "Black Hole," "Tron."

With fantasy it was a bit different, i solely read sci-fi then one day, randomly, i picked up China Mieville's Perdido Street Station read it and was hooked...
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Which books did the trick for you? Who was responsible for your transformation into a SFF geek?
For me it began with my fathers love of Tolkien. He read the Hobbit to me when I was a kid. And every week we watched an episode of Star Trek TNG. Roald Dahl corrupted my soul even further.
Ten years later, the next major influence was the breakthrough of the Harry Potter series, at that moment book 1 to 4 were available. So I started reading and somehow I never quit. A friend gave me a copy of Enders Game. I devoured it. On its cover I noticed it was a Hugo and Nebula winner.
I got me a copy of the winners list and now, again 10 years later Im here, stull working down the list, and having found many other marvelous reads.