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I read in another article that this "John" looked a lot like Jim Morrison, that's why she became so smitten with him. I don't recall any of guys in the Manson family looking anything like Jim Morrison, and like you said Fishface, there really weren't that many males in the family.


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Fishface | 18955 comments And John may have had nothing to do with her murder, of course!


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That's right Fish, that's a strong possibility. Also, there were a lot of fringe members and people only loosely associated with the Family, and even people who drifted in and out of Spahn without joining, just traveling from commune to commune and hitchhiking through the canyons, so it makes it difficult for police to track someone, especially with just a first name. In 1969 when Reet Juvertson was still a 'Jane Doe', police showed one of the ranch hands at Spahn, Ruby Pearl, a photo of the clothing that Juvertson was wearing and Ruby recognized them, she remembered someone at the ranch wearing those exact clothes, but she couldn't remember exactly who. She mistakenly told police she thought it was a girl named Sherri from Simi Valley. There was a Family member, Simi Valley Sherri but she was located and still very much alive. The thing is that people in the Manson Family had several aliases and even shared each others clothes, so this complicates it even more for the police.

Interestingly, there was another 'Jane Doe' found in 1969 that was possibly a victim of the Manson Family, some people think she was killed by Bobby Beausoleil, but other people think she may have been a victim of the Zodiac killer, but the case is still unsolved and she remains unidentified.


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Fishface | 18955 comments That's California for you in a nutshell.


message 55: by Michael (new)

Michael Rubin | 3 comments True Crime that would make a great novel. Murderer acquitted for hacking someone to death because he "truly" thought the victim was a ghost. Read the article: http://bit.ly/1UbpaJm


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Fishface | 18955 comments Michael wrote: "True Crime that would make a great novel. Murderer acquitted for hacking someone to death because he "truly" thought the victim was a ghost. Read the article: http://bit.ly/1UbpaJm"

Tip to killers: if it bleeds when you stab it, that's NOT a ghost...


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Lee | 130 comments Interesting developments in England.Police are digging up the former garden of convicted child rapists David and Pauline Williams.This is especially interesting because the pair were friends of Fred and Rose West.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36200359


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Fishface | 18955 comments Lee wrote: "Interesting developments in England.Police are digging up the former garden of convicted child rapists David and Pauline Williams.This is especially interesting because the pair were friends of Fre..."

Oh, man. Where do they all come from!?


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Fishface | 18955 comments We were totally overdue for a new criminal named WAYNE:

http://madworldnews.com/boy-crusty-ea...


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments She beat him to death with a frog:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith...


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Fishface | 18955 comments K.A. wrote: "She beat him to death with a frog:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith..."


Wow, that's every bit as bold as Herb Baumeister.


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Fishface | 18955 comments This can't possibly be kosher:

http://jalopnik.com/car-dealer-report...


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Whenever i see a case overturned because of bite mark evidence i get scared that Lemmy is going to get out of Greenhaven and come for me
Murder conviction reversed in 23-year-old case that turned on a bite mark


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Fishface | 18955 comments Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Whenever i see a case overturned because of bite mark evidence i get scared that Lemmy is going to get out of Greenhaven and come for me
Murder conviction reversed in 23-year-old case that turned ..."


What an odd coincidence. I just finished a book that took the reader all over the science and history of bite-mark evidence (Justice in Jeopardy: The Unsolved Murder of Baby Deidre Kennedy).


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Shelley | 1225 comments Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Whenever i see a case overturned because of bite mark evidence i get scared that Lemmy is going to get out of Greenhaven and come for me
Murder conviction reversed in 23-year-old case that turned ..."


Who is Lemmy? Never mind. Found him. Lemuel Smith.

I hope you are only nervous because he is close to you geographically and not personally!


message 69: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18955 comments You mean it's NOT a Chihuahua, Captain?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016...


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments "Clear procedures to be followed if future incidents occur..."

The thing about this is, nobody knew how many there actually were - just that there were more than one. So, that leaves the door open for the imagination.


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Fishface wrote: "You mean it's NOT a Chihuahua, Captain?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016..."


The next time someone tells me i shouldn't be afraid to fly .....


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
K.A. wrote: ""Clear procedures to be followed if future incidents occur..."

The thing about this is, nobody knew how many there actually were - just that there were more than one. So, that leaves the door open..."


never ever ever ever flying again.


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod



message 74: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18955 comments They're actually quite a pretty shade of blue. They would match many of my outfits.


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments


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Fishface | 18955 comments IT'S RIGHT ON HER HEAD


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Shelley | 1225 comments Fishface wrote: "http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/24/us/bill..."

That case will be so interesting to see how it turns out. I bet it won't be televised though. Just my guess.


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Shelley said: That case will be so interesting to see how it turns out. I bet it won't be televised though. Just my guess.

The Revolution. Will Not. Be Televised.

(In case I'm too old, and that reference is lost on anybody:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoX... )


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Fishface | 18955 comments Shelley wrote: "Fishface wrote: "http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/24/us/bill..."

That case will be so interesting to see how it turns out. I bet it won't be televised though. Just my guess."


It seems as if the more famous the defendant, the more likely they are to put him on the air. If they do televise it, there will be a lot of blue-dot women testifying, a la the Wm. Kennedy Smith trial.


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Fishface | 18955 comments Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Back in the news. http://go.socialnewsdesk.com/r?p=1458..."

Huh. I never heard of her. Is there a bookie?


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Fishface wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Back in the news. http://go.socialnewsdesk.com/r?p=1458..."

Huh. I never heard of her. Is there a bookie?"


Her Deadly Web: The True Story of a Former Nurse and the Strange and Suspicious Deaths of Her Two Husbands


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Fishface | 18955 comments Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Back in the news. http://go.socialnewsdesk.com/r?p=1458..."

Huh. I never heard of her. Is there a bookie?"
..."


Now that I have heard of. (But obviously never read!)


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Fishface wrote: "Now that I have heard of. (But obviously never read!)"

I haven't read it either, but it's now on the top-20-to-read shelf. Which has about 50 books on it.


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Fishface | 18955 comments Now here's some really questionable parenting:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/m...


message 88: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments I was following the Japanese kid one. Sounded fishy to me, I was afraid he was going to show up dead. Relieved he is alive and well.

The Tiger Temple one doesn't surprise me, unfortunately. All those poor little cubs.


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Strong language to follow. Do not read if profanity bothers you.


This fucking piece of shit got 6 months! Convicted of 3 felony sexual assault! I hope the rest of his life is ruined!

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_575...


message 90: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments What's even worse on that one, Bell, is that his father has written a letter protesting his son's 'harsh sentence'. Unbelievable.


message 91: by Lady ♥ Belleza, Gif Princesa (last edited Jun 07, 2016 07:01AM) (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
K.A. wrote: "What's even worse on that one, Bell, is that his father has written a letter protesting his son's 'harsh sentence'. Unbelievable."

I know, I've been following the accounts on Facebook and reposting all of them to my page. This makes me SO FLIPPING ANGRY.


message 92: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Me, too. The father passed it off as '20 minutes of action'. SERIOUSLY? He had sex with an unconscious person. That's not 'action'. It's rape. If the father doesn't understand this simple distinction, then God knows what he taught his son.


message 93: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18955 comments I'm wondering why the article seems to be all about his mugshot and not his violent sex crimes. Am I missing something?

I would have expected the letter from his old man. I'm sure he taught his son everything he knows about right and wrong. (What the women in the family no doubt refer to as the 'Moment of Silence.')


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Lady♥Belleza★✰ wrote: "Strong language to follow. Do not read if profanity bothers you.


This fucking piece of shit got 6 months! Convicted of 3 felony sexual assault! I hope the rest of his life is ruined!

http://m.h..."


I should stop reading these articles ..... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/natio...


message 95: by Lady ♥ Belleza, Gif Princesa (last edited Jun 09, 2016 01:57PM) (new)

Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
I am spending way too much time on this case.




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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
K.A. wrote: "Me, too. The father passed it off as '20 minutes of action'. SERIOUSLY? He had sex with an unconscious person. That's not 'action'. It's rape. If the father doesn't understand this simple distincti..."

He also said his son have never been violent towards anyone and he includes the night of the rape. Excuse me but rape is an act of VIOLENCE.


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Fishface wrote: "I'm wondering why the article seems to be all about his mugshot and not his violent sex crimes. Am I missing something?

I would have expected the letter from his old man. I'm sure he taught his so..."


Didn't you read his father's letter? He didn't commit a violent sex crime, it was the college culture of binge drinking and promiscuity!


message 98: by Shelley (new)

Shelley | 1225 comments I can't believe that father said "20 minutes of action". That's so disgusting.


message 99: by Fishface (new)

Fishface | 18955 comments Shelley wrote: "I can't believe that father said "20 minutes of action". That's so disgusting."

I believe it. I believe he meant every word.


message 100: by Shelley (new)

Shelley | 1225 comments Makes the blood boil. GRRRR


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