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ABOUT BOOKS AND READING > What are you reading or what books have you read or heard about? (Part TWELVE) Ongoing general thread.

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message 1651: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thank you for posting.


message 1652: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments I would like to know in 1939 book what is fact and what is fiction. Did Germany really send money to US to thwart the Roosevelt election?


message 1653: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments One of the gals in the book club is a history buff. I'm curious to learn if she could decipher the fact from fiction. Book club is a few weeks away - let you know if I learn anything.

At any rate, the book is readable for me. Yes, I am skimming some sections. That's just me~


message 1654: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Nina wrote: "I would like to know in 1939 book what is fact and what is fiction. Did Germany really send money to US to thwart the Roosevelt election?"

Yes. I read about that in a biography of Charles Lindberg who was a supporter of the Nazi's, at least at first. Their efforts weren't very good, though. There's a short explanation of it here:
http://www.dialoginternational.com/di...


message 1655: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Thanks, Jim for that info. Sometimes I'm amazed at what went on behind the scenes so to speak of the general's public knowledge.


message 1656: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) What we're taught in history class or see in the news is rarely even the whole tip of the iceberg, unfortunately. If some of these people protesting Civil War statues read a few books & stopped to think for a few minutes, they might realize that there are no perfect people. People & institutions who did great things generally did it on both sides of the scale & judging motivations through our current standards is completely unfair. Of course, hating & destroying something is far easier than trying to understand it & build something better.
:(


message 1657: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Jim, I very much like your comment. I only wish more people felt that way. Why don't they?


message 1658: by Jim (last edited Aug 26, 2017 04:38AM) (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Nina, I think it's because we've evolved to like simple answers. For most of our history, quick answers were all we needed. (Is it good to eat or not? Will it eat us?) The common man was powerless to change much until recently. It's only been a few centuries (if that) since most needed to really start thinking about complex issues, so we want to categorize & pigeon-hole things plus there's ignorance & short attention spans that consume memes & bite-sized 'news' stories that the mobs are eating up like candy to fuel their self-righteous hatred. It's ugly & stupid. The whole statue thing reminds me of Nazi book burning.

I didn't answer this last night because my son called & we wound up talking for far too long. One of the topics was our need for categorization & I'd happened across a great article about defining species. With our advances in science, especially DNA, the various methods of defining a species are breaking down even more. Here's the article. It's easy enough to understand & is a great illustration of attempts at categorization & the inability to do so neatly. It's quite frustrating.

Look at the uproar about oil pipelines. Few seem to realize that they're the safest, most economical way to transport it nor do most know just how many there are or even where they are. There's about 2.5 million miles of pipeline in the US right now. While the news would have us believe they're bursting all over the place, even a few minutes of checking will show they're far easier on the environment that any other method of transportation.

There's a lot of this sort of thing going on now. Our knowledge is growing incredibly fast & it takes some effort to keep up with it. Most don't & even when we try, it's often overwhelming & unpopular. SpaceX putting up yet another satellite & landing the first stage on a barge is no longer newsworthy. They just did another one a couple of days ago, but no one is talking about it. Instead, the news is full of horrors.

Statistically, we've never lived in a better world, but you'd never know it from the news. Violent crimes, deaths by violence, starvation, & disease are all way down globally, but we certainly don't feel that since the news goes out of its way to find every crappy thing that happens anywhere & put it right in our face. We're constantly bombarded with them so think things are worse, a false perception, but one that most people simply take at face value. They react, don't think, just like their ancestor's did when choosing what to eat.


message 1659: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Well said, Jim. If you were running for Congress you'd have my vote.


message 1660: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Thanks, but I can't imagine a job I would like less.


message 1661: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Nor would my husband. Being a mechanical engineer suited him.


message 1662: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I've gotten the audio versions of L.E. Modesitt Jr.'s books from the library. I'm listening to his Recluce series now in chronological order. It's really good reading this way rather than in published order. Both have their benefits, but I've already read them in order as they were published over the past 25 years or so. Up to 19 books now with a new one coming out this year. It's pretty amazing how fresh he's kept the series.

I'm also loving listening to audio books on my phone. I'm using Smart Audiobook Player on my Android phone with a bluetooth headset so I can still put on my ear protectors while mowing & such to hear well. It let's me make phone calls easily, too.

The best thing is the speed adjustment for audio book playback, though. It allows me to choose a speed in 1/10th increments from .5x to 2.5x & doesn't distort the voice at all. I'm now listening at 1.6x! My Sansa disc had a 'fast' mode, which I guess was about 1.25x, but the voice was distorted; sounded like a chipmunk.

I started out at 1.3x & bumped it up to 1.4x in a few hours. A day later, I tried 1.5x. I listened to a nonfiction history book, so when I finished that without problems, I figured I'd try 1.6x for a fiction book that I'd already read. Again, no problems. Normal conversations don't seem any slower, either. The human mind is incredible in how it can adapt.


message 1663: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thank you for posting.


message 1664: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Reminds me that all of the announcers talk so much faster than usual and I believe it is because the stations want more time for commercials. It used to be that our local news would come on the morning and evening shows at twenty five after the hour and go to the half hour mark; now that starts at twenty six after and ends at twenty nine..Discouraging.


message 1665: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments I agree.


message 1666: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Jim wrote: "What we're taught in history class or see in the news is rarely even the whole tip of the iceberg, unfortunately. If some of these people protesting Civil War statues read a few books & stopped to ..."

Very good points Jim.


message 1667: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Jim wrote: "I've gotten the audio versions of L.E. Modesitt Jr.'s books from the library. I'm listening to his Recluce series now in chronological order. It's really good reading this way rath..."

I've tried audio books from time-to-time and haven't had success. Either the story line was bad or the voices either too many or too little didn't suit me. Being able to adjust speeds could fix this issue of mine. Perhaps I'll give audio books another try. Thanks for providing this information about audio books and about Modesitt books.


message 1668: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) They take some getting used to, Linda. When I started, I found that listening to a book I really liked, but hadn't read in a long time was a good way to start. That helps comprehension at first since it's a skill.

The narrator makes a big difference. Almost every site lets you listen to a sample now. I'd recommend that. Some narrators just don't work for some people or books.


message 1669: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments I've started reading a Kindle book: _The Designer_ by Marius Gabriel.

See my review at: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1670: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Jim wrote: "They take some getting used to, Linda. When I started, I found that listening to a book I really liked, but hadn't read in a long time was a good way to start. That helps comprehension at first sin..."

Excellent idea - listen to a book I've read and liked. I'll try.


message 1671: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Joy H. wrote: "I've started reading a Kindle book: _The Designer_ by Marius Gabriel.

See my review at: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show..."


Takes place in Paris. I like the bright red dress on the cover of the book.


message 1672: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Marg started reading The Painter as it was recommended by a friend. She said it was very well written - too well written. She quit since she really didn't want to know any more about what the painter was thinking.


message 1673: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Listened to an audio book while I was staining the deck today. My mind did start to wander a bit ... Takes a little getting used to "listening."


message 1674: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Linda wrote: "Listened to an audio book while I was staining the deck today. My mind did start to wander a bit ... Takes a little getting used to "listening.""

Super! Listen to a book you've read & that will help some. Once you get the skill, it's a blast!


message 1675: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Book club meeting last night. Lo and behold there wasn't any discussion questions to be found for Jack 1939. Since there were only 4 members who showed up, the person who selected the book told us mostly what was real and what was made up. All 4 of us liked the book even though 3 of the readers weren't history buffs.

Our September book is: "The Swans of Fifth Avenue" which is a novel by Melanie Benjamin who also wrote "The Aviator's Wife" (which I didn't care for much).

Here's some info: http://melaniebenjamin.com/swans-of-f...


message 1676: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Sep 14, 2017 05:32AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments The Swans of Fifth Avenue by Melanie Benjamin

Thank you for posting.


message 1677: by Mary JL (new)

Mary JL (maryjl) | 527 comments I just started an older SF trilogy by Alfred Coppel. It tellsof part of the journey of aGoldenwing-class ship called Glory.

There are three books 1) Glory 2) Glory's War and 3)Glory's people.

It is not as well known as I wish it could be---originally published in 1993. Every now and then, I like to go back to some older authors. And and least so far, I am finding Book 1---Glory--enjoyable.


message 1678: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thanks, Mary.
Alfred Coppel


message 1679: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) Good to know, Mary. I'll keep an eye out for them. I haven't read them.


message 1680: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Mary, I haven't read or heard about this author. I'm going to review this author as the book seems like something my husband would enjoy. He doesn't read much but from time-to-time I find something that captures his attention.


message 1681: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Still reading: "The Swans of Fifth Avenue" which I find to be a bunch of fluff. Honestly, who cares if someone wealthy has an empty champagne glass and holds it slightly up to be refilled automatically, or if someone wants to take their picture because they are wealthy, glamorous and 'in" at the time? I keep reading and skimming to see if something substantial happens.


message 1682: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Maybe it will abut don't get your hopes up.


message 1683: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Ha ha!


message 1684: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) War Horse was an absolute delight! I gave it a very short 5 star review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I see it is part of a series. Nope, not going there. It stands alone perfectly.

OTOH, while I gave Under Western Eyes by Joseph Conrad 3 stars in my review, I really didn't like the book. In a word, torturous.
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1685: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thank you for posting.
See my review of War Horse here: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...
I didn't not read this book but watched the movie adaptation.


message 1686: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Welcome back, Joy. You were missed.


message 1687: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments A quote for you Joy, "That it will never come again is what makes life so sweet," Emily Dickenson


message 1688: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thank you.


message 1689: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments I'm sure it will come as no surprise but I've stopped reading "The Swans of Fifth Avenue" as I just don't care to read about ladies dressing up to the hills for lunch to be "seen" and photographed blah blah blah.


message 1690: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Sounds like a wise decision.


message 1691: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I read The Road & was highly disappointed. I'm a fan of post apocalyptic fiction & with all the raving about this, I thought I was in for a treat. I wasn't. I gave it a 1 star review here:
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1692: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thanks for posting, Jim.


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message 1694: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Good review/brings back memories of reading that book. I decided t order the DVD.


message 1695: by Gabby (new)

Gabby | 3 comments I have read many books. I love books by Cassandra Clare, Rick Riordan, James Patterson, and J.K Rowling. My favorite book is City of Bones by Cassandra Clare.


message 1696: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Oct 06, 2017 04:01PM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thanks for posting, Gabby.

City of Bones BY Cassandra Clare


message 1697: by Nina (new)

Nina | 6069 comments Did you like Miss Peregrine's Peculiar Children?


message 1698: by Linda (new)

Linda (goodreadscomlinda_p) | 1251 comments Gabby wrote: "I have read many books. I love books by Cassandra Clare, Rick Riordan, James Patterson, and J.K Rowling. My favorite book is City of Bones by Cassandra Clare."

City of Bones sounds good to me, Gabby. Haven't read anything by this author - going to check her out.

I also like James Patterson. Not too fond of J.K. Rowling.


message 1699: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) I just finished Parasite, the first of a trilogy. I gave it 3 stars, but am not sure when/if I'll read the other books. It was pretty slow going. Not a very good heroine.
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 1700: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Thanks for posting, Jim.


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