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Sep 2015: RosemaryRue/DarkFever > How necessary is it to read Iced before Burned?

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message 1: by Nevada (last edited Sep 27, 2015 05:54PM) (new)

Nevada (vadatastic) | 78 comments I've read the first five books at this point, done with Shadowfever. I really want to continue with the series but I'm having some real hesitation over diving into Dani's POV so I'm wondering if 1) is it really that bad for someone who wasn't really bothered by Mac's POV; and 2) is it necessary to read Iced before reading Burned?

Thanks for your answers, but please try to avoid spoilers for book 6 and on if you can.


message 2: by Janell (last edited Sep 27, 2015 10:25PM) (new)

Janell (jaloyoloti) | 24 comments Nevada wrote: "I've read the first five books at this point, done with Shadowfever. I really want to continue with the series but I'm having some real hesitation over diving into Dani's POV so I'm wondering if 1)..."

To be honest I had such a rough, rough time getting through about the first half of Iced. I hated Dani when she was introduced, I hated her more throughout the series and when I read the summary of Iced being from Dani's POV I looked skyward and wondered what I had ever done to anger the literary gods to deserve such punishment. But, to continue on with the series and know what was going on when Burned came out, I put on my big girl panties and slogged through it. (By slogged I mean it took me a couple days but I didn't enjoy it much for about the first half of the book but then really got into it).

It is interesting, though, to see the world through Dani's eyes, to know how her mind works, how she came to be who she is and how others view her. I came out of Iced with a new appreciation for her as not just the annoying, cocky little kid. I sympathized and more importantly empathized with her. I did feel bad for giving her so much flack and I'm actually really glad that Moning did take the chance to do a book from Dani's POV so I could understand her better and learn to love her as a character. It also does go through events that have impact on the coming books, Burned and what others I'm sure will come.

I both curse and praise Moning for making me hate Dani in the first place and then really digging her as a character after both Iced and Burned.

Since you've already shown enough resilience to get through the first five I do suggest making the effort to read through Iced. I don't regret it and if you have the same appreciation for the series and characters as I do I think that ultimately you will be glad you read through it. I'm not saying the first half or so will be easy if you detested her as much as I did but it's worth it. Damn that woman Moning, it's worth it.


Alana ~ The Book Pimp (loonyalana) | 124 comments Nevada wrote: "I've read the first five books at this point, done with Shadowfever. I really want to continue with the series but I'm having some real hesitation over diving into Dani's POV so I'm wondering if 1)..."

YES, you really need to read Iced before Burned or you're just going to be lost and confused. Dani was never that annoying to me, even in the beginning. Although, I will say Iced is a little on the 'pervy' side. It's not my favorite of the series but I didn't hate it. But, without it half of Burned would be confusing as all get-out.


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Meghan Collins | 5 comments It is critical to read Iced before Burned. Critical! Also, I love Dani. I promise, she is as awesome as she says she is--under her swagger is an amazingly deep character.


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Tanagra (tanagraggnoc) | 15 comments I just finished Fever 5, and was wondering this myself. While I liked the "Dani Dailes", Moning's writing from that character's POV was almost too young and annoying to be enjoyable; more hyper child than fiery, smart, brazen teenager. I paid my annoying character POV dues with Mac in Fever 1, and shouldn't have to pay it again with Dani. Truth is I'm not sure if Moning just doesn't write "young" well, or if it's the character.

This series and I are in a happy place right now. If Iced, or even Burning, is going to ruin that, maybe it'll just stop reading it now. Do the rest of the books add anything to the series, or is it just "further adventures"?


Alana ~ The Book Pimp (loonyalana) | 124 comments Tanagra wrote: "Do the rest of the books add anything to the series, or is it just "further adventures"? "

Yes, they are adding... but if you are 'satisfied' after Shadowfever (book 5) and don't want (to use your words) "pay POV dues" anymore, you may want to stop. Though, if there is anyway you can borrow or go to a library just for the beginning of Burned (you may or may not have heard of The Alpha Alternative JZB Sex Scene (Fever, #1.5) by Karen Marie Moning )...

BUT... while I said on one hand it 'adds' to the series, at times it's an incredibly slow pace and I'm not always happy with what gets added. I know I'm being as clear as mud but it's not often that this writer in this series ends a book on a non-cliffhanger. So I guess it boils down to... Is your satisfaction after book #5 greater than your curiousity? Or vice versa? That should lead you to your answer.


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Tanagra (tanagraggnoc) | 15 comments Alana ~ The Book Pimp wrote: "Tanagra wrote: "Do the rest of the books add anything to the series, or is it just "further adventures"? "

Yes, they are adding... but if you are 'satisfied' after Shadowfever (book 5) and don't w..."


Haha Clear as mud indeed. The cliffhangers were horrifically well done. I've never bought an ebook so fast just to satisfy my curiosity. I can't imagine reading these while they were being published.

I really enjoyed the mystery and political games/alliances of the first five books. If the JZB scene is any indication of the series moving forward (yes, I found it and read it), then I probably won't like it as much. Maybe I'll check it out in a few months.

Thanks! off to read next month's book!


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Nevada (vadatastic) | 78 comments I read Iced. I'm okay with it.

Dani's interior monologue sort of evens out her exterior bravado, so that all the fecks and dudes become bearable.

Yes, she's 14. Yes, she has some guys interested in her who are not 14. No, there is no hanky-panky. Yes, there is a lot of male posturing, trying to stake a claim, but nothing actually happens. I love how naive she is, and how she's always flabbergasted about how little sense adults make.

Do not read this if all you want is more Mac & Barrons, they're in here less than 5 pages. However, they do figure into Burned much more (which I'm already reading since I was a good girl and ate all my Iced broccoli).


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