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Buddy Read with Inge, Sofia, Mel, Bev and Andrea starting 30th October

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BevS Nightingale by Aleksandr Voinov

So excited about this new story!!


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Sofia thank you Bev, touching base so that I get notified :)


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ I'm hoping I can join. LOTS going on in Oct, starting at this time, of course! lol


Sofia waves at Andrea


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BevS ♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ wrote: "I'm hoping I can join. LOTS going on in Oct, starting at this time, of course! lol"

Some lucky person is going to GRL San Diego!! **mutters** it's a tough life...;)


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BevS Ingela wrote: ""

**snort**


message 9: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel Hello you all :) Looking forward to this soooooo much :)


message 10: by BevS (new)

BevS Mel *I guess nowt changes except ourselves* wrote: "Hello you all :) Looking forward to this soooooo much :)"

Hey Mel, glad to have you here!! :D


message 11: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel :) Thank you Bev! And thanks for asking me, too!


Ingie Bev wrote: "Ingela wrote: "" **snort**"

LoL! (((hugs)))


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BevS Ingela wrote: "Bev wrote: "Ingela wrote: "" **snort**"

LoL! (((hugs)))"


{{{Big Hugs}}} to you too my lovely. Have just friended John Wiltshire or whatever his real name is on Facebook. :)


message 15: by BevS (new)

BevS No, you kept that one quiet ;) but I'm not really on here enough to join the group...that's why I left Alexis Halls group, too many groups and not enough time. I'm still in SE Jakes group although not a lot is happening cos of circumstances, the Xmas Gift Exchange group, our group and M/M Romance. I could've joined Brandon Shire's group, but again not really enough time. :(


message 16: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel Hey girls, Aleks just said on Twitter that the book is coming out a bit later since his proof reader has a small baby and isn't as fast as usual. He still thinks October, but I think we need to postpone. Just wanted to give you a heads-up...


message 17: by BevS (new)

BevS Mel *I guess nowt changes except ourselves* wrote: "Hey girls, Aleks just said on Twitter that the book is coming out a bit later since his proof reader has a small baby and isn't as fast as usual. He still thinks October, but I think we need to pos..."

Thanks for that Mel. If we postpone then I may well be back home from Turkey when we read.


Sofia Thanks Mel, we'll talk later then :)


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ I saw that too, Mel, on FB. I kinda figured since it wasn't on RT yet.

Gonna be gooooood!! I'm willing to wait lol


Ingie Okay. :)


message 21: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel Aleks today on Twitter: I'm hoping to launch #Nightingale on the 18th or the week after. I have the edits, now just need to wrap up last queries.

Let's hope then :D


Sofia Thanks for the update Mel you're a great news finder :)


Ingie Great! - Then we need to plan a new date. ...Or?


message 24: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel Oh, I think we should wait for a definite date...

I follow Aleks on Twitter where he is mainly active, so... yeah, I find all the news :D


message 25: by BevS (last edited Oct 10, 2015 09:02AM) (new)

BevS Didn't get any of these notifications from Goodreads, flipping useless!! Yep, I agree that it's best we wait for definite news. How are we all Ladies??

Wish I couid say I'm enjoying being in Turkey but honestly...I'm not that much. It's like being in the Algarve 30 years ago, very primitive. Difficult to find a decent supermarket, too many people smoking even when you're eating in a restaurant...ugh!! People are very friendly, but won't be coming back in a hurry....


Ingie Sorry to hear Bev. I hope the hotel, pool garden and beach are good and okay anyway. ...Nicer warmer days than up here I guess. :D


Sofia Oh Bev, I just remembered you are in Turkey and I've just been seeing the news of the happenings in Ankara. I hope that you are in a safe place. Sending you all my good thoughts and wishing you a good holiday.


message 28: by BevS (new)

BevS The villa is really nice Inge, just large enough for the two of us. Pool is lovely - like an infinity pool, but rather chilly cos although it's warm, the sun is only out until about 6.30 when it starts going dark but hasn't stopped me swimming.

The trouble in Ankara is apparently terrorists Sofia, but there are political problems over here without a doubt, East meets West...let's not forget that only 7% of Turkey is in Europe and there are mosques everywhere although they are not fundamentalists thank goodness, but there are always people who don't like what's going on. As far as I'm concerned, purely my opinion, they are not European in the slightest (just like most of the Eastern European countries), but as long as there is conflict within those countries, the EU won't let them in.


Sofia Just be safe Bev.

Our neighbours troubles become our own, Europe cannot be safe with troubles on her borders.


message 30: by BevS (last edited Oct 10, 2015 11:38AM) (new)

BevS Sofia wrote: "Just be safe Bev.

Our neighbours troubles become our own, Europe cannot be safe with troubles on her borders."


No you're right but we're nowhere near Ankara thank goodness. You only have to look at what's happening in Syria don't you?? Not good for anyone...


message 31: by Mel (last edited Oct 10, 2015 02:29PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel New news :)

Aleks: Tentative release day for #Nightingale - 27 October. I'm halfway through the proofs/final edits.


message 32: by BevS (new)

BevS Woot...at least I'll be back home then. Thanks Mel. <3


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ Howdy all. :D

Thanks for the updates.

Spending the day getting ready for GRL, leaving on Tuesday afternoon. Yesterday was a glorious day at my college alma mater's homecoming. :D <3

I don't think it matters whether Turkey and its citizens are European or not (not a great thing to say, Bev, honestly. It doesn't matter.), but whether they can have peace in their own country, which increases the possibility of peace in the surrounding areas.

The fact that terrorists have chosen Ankara is no mistake.
Just like it is no mistake Putin is bombing inside Syria, making things worse. He saw an opportunity and he took it.

And back to Eastern European countries not being European? Wow. I mean... wow. If they're good neighbors and EU members, isn't that what matters? Going the route of exclusion instead of inclusion, I'm surprised hearing that from you, Bev. I like that you have opinions and, more importantly, state them. Always have, always will. I disagree with this'n.


message 34: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel So the last date I gave seems to be real. It can be pre-ordered on amazon. I'd suggest the Friday after for the BR.


Ingie 30/10 that's good with me. Looking forward to see the cover too. :))))


message 36: by Ingie (last edited Oct 11, 2015 12:15PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ingie These wars, (view spoiler)


message 37: by BevS (new)

BevS ♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ wrote: "Howdy all. :D

Thanks for the updates.

Spending the day getting ready for GRL, leaving on Tuesday afternoon. Yesterday was a glorious day at my college alma mater's homecoming. :D <3

I don't thin..."



Andrea. Sorry you seem to have misunderstood what I said. I am in no way a racist, and it was not a political statement at all, just commenting on the situation in Ankara and this part of the world. I know that the Kurds have had lots of problems with the Turkish state over the years, and reading the Turkish press, the opposition seem to be implying that the government might have had something to do with the bombing...but whoever is responsible, it's a disgraceful act and now others will suffer for it.

Good Europeans are good Europeans but many of the countries on the periphery of the EU have huge problems of their own. The EU as is it constituted is finding it really difficult to deal with the issues within its own borders at the moment, so something is bound to give sooner or later.

The EU is not the United States of Europe I'm afraid. There are too many different cultures, races, political viewpoints and even religions to make this work cohesively. Even without all the nations now wanting to join the EU, there are many internal difficulties with those who are already in it.

I obviously didn't express myself very well at all, and I apologise for that. I can say that I don't agree with what Mr Putin is doing...don't agree with him and what he does period, but the United Nations or some other organisation needs to get involved and pretty quickly to prevent more needless loss of life.


message 38: by BevS (new)

BevS Ingela wrote: "These wars, poverty and all these people on the run right now is of course terribly awful and sad for all of us right now. Worst for those poor people which have to leave their homes and roots, of..."

My thoughts exactly Inge. It's easy for us to sit at home and watch all of this on the TV...we do it every time there is a humanitarian problem throughout the world. We live in countries which are stable politically and yes, compared to some other countries very wealthy indeed but that doesn't make us immune to what's going on in the world, or it shouldn't. I try not to be a NIMBY (not in my back yard) and all we can do is donate to whatever charity we can, as I do every time something like this happens. How do we stop it?? I have NO idea because every country involved seems to have their own agenda, so in the long term...who knows??


message 39: by BevS (new)

BevS Mel *I guess nowt changes except ourselves* wrote: "So the last date I gave seems to be real. It can be pre-ordered on amazon. I'd suggest the Friday after for the BR."

Thanks Mel 30/10 it is and I'll pre-order from Amazon.


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ Bev wrote: "Andrea. Sorry you seem to have misunderstood what I said. I am in no way a racist, and it was not a political statement at all, just commenting on the situation in Ankara and this part of the world. I know that the Kurds have had lots of problems with the Turkish state over the years, and reading the Turkish press, the opposition seem to be implying that the government might have had something to do with the bombing...but whoever is responsible, it's a disgraceful act and now others will suffer for it.

Good Europeans are good Europeans but many of the countries on the periphery of the EU have huge problems of their own. The EU as is it constituted is finding it really difficult to deal with the issues within its own borders at the moment, so something is bound to give sooner or later.

The EU is not the United States of Europe I'm afraid. There are too many different cultures, races, political viewpoints and even religions to make this work cohesively. Even without all the nations now wanting to join the EU, there are many internal difficulties with those who are already in it.

I obviously didn't express myself very well at all, and I apologise for that. I can say that I don't agree with what Mr Putin is doing...don't agree with him and what he does period, but the United Nations or some other organisation needs to get involved and pretty quickly to prevent more needless loss of life. ."


This is the Bev i know, knowledgeable, not someone who says Eastern Europeans aren't European, which is what you said.

The challenges within, or the difference between, a united Europe and the US isn't all of cultures, we have nearly every one under the sun here. The difference is we're under one head of state, Europe is not by nature. That alone put the whole EU endeavor behind the eight ball from the beginning. Do i think it's a worthy endeavor? I do. Will it continue to work? Probably for the foreseeable future, but who knows.

The UN will not do anything. They hardly ever get involved unless someone else does first. The fact that nothing has been done since the Syrian war started is another example of that. For whomever is surprised by this great escape from the region (by that i mean those in positions to do something), they simply decided to ignore the obvious outcome of war. The stories of these people are horrifying, when all they were trying to do is live their lives, and now they can't and are running for them.

As for Turkey, this will be a turning point, one way or another. They're strategically important to nearly everyone, let alone the threat to human life, so something will be done. Hopefully without a war starting. Though, given how out of control so much of this is, who knows how that will be avoided.

By the time we as regular folk see this on tv, it's too late. The exodus is under way and can't be stopped until the war is stopped. Just like every other time in history.

Considering this is a thread about a book, i won't feel bad if no one feels like responding or continuing the discussion here. :)


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ Mel *I guess nowt changes except ourselves* wrote: "So the last date I gave seems to be real. It can be pre-ordered on amazon. I'd suggest the Friday after for the BR."

Oh really? Ok gonna have to go look. Thanks, Mel. :D


Ingie Hugs to you Ladies. We maybe can't solve all big worldly problems here but it's good to hear your voices anyway.


message 43: by BevS (new)

BevS Yes, this is a book thread but it's good that we can have these sorts of discussions....WE can, others can't. Innocent civilians are always the casualties in these situations, but what can WE do?? The answer is nothing, we just hope and pray that someone will see sense soon....

As far as books are concerned, I've pre-ordered this one which will be delivered to my kindle on the 27th. ;)


Sofia OK for the 30th for me too girls

I think us not closing our eyes to what's happening around us is a step forward. With awareness comes responsibility plus we can always help with our vote when electing our own government.

We've been seeing a great influx of migrants from Africa for years on end but our calls for help to the EU went unheeded. Now that there is this huge influx because problems where aggrivated rather than solved at intiation, everybody is running around like headless chickens. I do fear though that the arms selling elites are making a bomb out of these troubles so they sure don't want to have everything quiet down.


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BevS Sofia wrote: "OK for the 30th for me too girls

I think us not closing our eyes to what's happening around us is a step forward. With awareness comes responsibility plus we can always help with our vote when el..."


There do seem to be lots of headless chickens running around in charge of countries Sofia. I would think Malta and all the islands within reach of the problems must be absolutely overrun with refugees, but where else can they go?? At least there, they're safe....

Turkey certainly isn't safe, Iraq and Lebanon still have huge problems and Israel is suspicious of everyone...and quite rightly so. Yet another cock-up the British caused on the diplomacy front...we've had loads, so as much as I love my country, I can also see that in the past we've made some dreadful decisions too (like letting Robert Mugabe get away with genocide in Zimbabwe for example). We should have sent the SAS in to take him out....think Ben and Nik.


Ingie Haha, Bev you're so right, our world for sure need guys like Nik & Ben right now.

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message 47: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel Hello everyone, this is my news voice on... I thought you might be interested in this info Aleks shared on FB concerning where and how to get his book. (Please tell me if I should stop...)

Very quick note on where to buy/pre-order Nightingale - at the moment, it's an Amazon exclusive, which is not a development I like at all, and I've struggled against the inevitable conclusion for more than a year. I don't believe in exclusivity.
My own royalties are basically 95-97% from Amazon. Just the accounting of those couple dollars/euros means a lot more effort and paperwork to keep track of.
That said, I have gathered quite a bit of data, and when I make more money from the lending library than from sales, it's clear that lots of readers lend rather than buy, and they do it on Amazon. As an example - it looks like I'll make ca $7.50 from a short story/month in terms of sales, but $50/month for the same short story in the same month via lending. And I've asked around - there are authors who have doubled and more than doubled their income since going exclusive with Amazon. It's money I can't afford to lose if I want to pay off that mortgage quickly so I can downshift at the day job.
So, for all the readers who absolutely will not buy from Amazon, don't have the Kindle app on their phones, computers or tablets, or find themselves in countries that Amazon bans/restricts or is otherwise being an ass to - I've come up with the following work-around. I can't sell the book direct, either; apart from this being a breach of contract with Amazon, going through PayPal is actually more accounting/paperwork than either I or my accountant are happy with, and thanks to the new European VAT law, it's basically impossible for me to sell to anybody in Europe (I could create my own online shop, but that's expensive, a huge amount of effort, and very unlikely to make me more than it would cost to set up/maintain).
So, here's a solution that should be good for everybody - I can't sell the book, but I can give it away. So I'm happy to send you guy the book in return for a $5 (or equivalent) donation to a human rights/GLBTQ charity of your choice. Just send me the receipt, and you get a free book emailed. It's easy, it's a good deed and it's legal.
Sounds good?



message 48: by Mel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mel And: YAY for the 30th :) I'm excited!


message 49: by BevS (new)

BevS Off to the ruins at Patara tomorrow, sorry can't post a link. There's also a 12 mile beach, so you'd be in heaven there Inge. Just off out for dinner, catch you all tomorrow after my history lesson at Patara. :D


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BevS Mel *I guess nowt changes except ourselves* wrote: "And: YAY for the 30th :) I'm excited!"

Me too!! :D


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