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Am I the only person who likes Nico even after everything?

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Allison Aryan wrote: "Allison wrote: "Here's my point:

Nico: I liked him better in the first series. I think it was just because he seemed more like Nico, but you know. He's still awesome in this one. The gay thing tho..."


Yeah, but I can garentee you, where I live, barely any 9 year olds know about this stuff. Thanks;)


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beth Allison wrote: "Here's my point:

Nico: I liked him better in the first series. I think it was just because he seemed more like Nico, but you know. He's still awesome in this one. The gay thing though: I respect R..."


Rick probably put it in there because something is going to happen in BoO to do with it. And my thoughts on the 9 year-old thing are this: The world is changing, and gay people are a lot more common than they used to be. Its probably good that 9 year olds are getting exposed to this early, because otherwise they might find out the wrong way... Just saying! Apart from that, I agree with you entirely.


Allison Aryan wrote: "Allison wrote: "Aryan wrote: "Allison wrote: "Here's my point:

Nico: I liked him better in the first series. I think it was just because he seemed more like Nico, but you know. He's still awesome ..."


UT.


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Chaya Julia wrote: "♫~Kelly~♫ wrote: ""I" just don't approve of a guy liking another guy. A girl or guy having attractions to the opposite sex is fine with me, but I just don't like the fact of a girl or guy having at..."

Julia, if there was an up-vote, it would be pressed.


Allison Anamika wrote: "So most of you liked Nico before House of Hades."

Oh, I still like him. He's my little Nico-Wico!!!!!! I just don't like how is character development kind of changed dramatically in the House of Hades. It's like he's a new person.


Allison Chaya wrote: "Julia wrote: "♫~Kelly~♫ wrote: ""I" just don't approve of a guy liking another guy. A girl or guy having attractions to the opposite sex is fine with me, but I just don't like the fact of a girl or..."

What are you talking about? What does up-vote mean?


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Chaya it means when you like something, so you vote up


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beth Anamika wrote: "So you're trying to say that you have no problem with Nico in the House of Hades."

I liked him before, and I like him now... PEOPLE DON'T CHANGE GUYS! HE IS THE SAME PERSON AS BEFORE, JUST WE NOW KNOW WHAT HIS SEXUALITY IS! Sorry if that offended anyone, I'm just saying...


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beth Sorry, I wasn't meaning it for anyone in particular... And Aryan and I have talked about this, and he has the same view as me... At least, that's what he last told me...


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beth That's not what he told me... Maybe he's changed his mind? Or maybe he's just giving mixed opinions...


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beth Yeah, I get it now!


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beth I get why you weren't clear now...


Allison ♆Beth♆Queen of Awesomeness♆♫ If Our Love's Insanity, Why Are You My Clarity?♫ wrote: "Anamika wrote: "So you're trying to say that you have no problem with Nico in the House of Hades."

I liked him before, and I like him now... PEOPLE DON'T CHANGE GUYS! HE IS THE SAME PERSON AS BEFO..."


People DO change. I've changed my personality. I used to be seriously shy and hated being around people, and now I'm really outgoing and crazy and I love talking. People change all the time.


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Bree No I love Nico I think even more now.


Cassie    'The Thinker Go Go Go Go' Mis. Roben Goodfellow'\Isabelle Lightwood I honestly don't see why everyone's so hyped up after what happened seeing as Nico was one of my favorite charters although not the top one. (Sorry) But I still like him anyways.


message 216: by SilverHorse18 (last edited Sep 19, 2019 02:09PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

SilverHorse18 Okay, so let's just say I was really disappointed with the revelation of Nico's homosexuality. Just stating that since this is what everyone in the discussion seems to be talking about, LOL! But yeah, not trying to inspire hate or anything, just stating my opinion.

Honestly, Nico has always been one of my favorite characters.

I've read tons of stuff about why people like Nico, but I would say the main reason is that he's RELATABLE.

People have pointed out in the beginning of the book he was basically a child, and most people have a soft spot for children in general. Okay, I can see that. Nico is so innocent at that age anyway, asking all those totally awkward questions to Percy that make Percy want to stuff Nico in a meat-flavored sack and give him to the wolves, LOL!

Also, of course, there is the point that he does have good looks. That certainly doesn't hurt anything :).

But I think the main reason people love or hate Nico is how they compare to his feelings.

I think to anyone who's ever been an outsider, especially to those who have been an outsider when it was no fault of theirs, they really like Nico because he's an outsider too.

To anyone who's lost someone who's close; they sympathize completely with Nico's grief of Bianca. Although to some people see Nico as a bit extreme, willing to sacrifice anything (including another soul) to bring back his sister, I imagine that a lot of people probably understand what it feels like to the point where they would give anything to get back one thing.

To anyone who's ever carried a really heavy burden because of something or other, and escaped by avoiding people and being on their own—well, that's practically Nico's whole personality almost throughout the books, LOL! The fact that Nico kind of overcomes at the end of the series allows people who may suffer from the same problem believe in a brighter future for themselves too.

And yeah, I'm not going to deny it, the fact that Nico is gay probably made him a lot of friends and enemies too.

That's the reason why I think some people LOVE Nico while those who can't relate as closely to Nico often don't enjoy his character as much.

Sorry I know that was super philosophical! I'm not trying to accuse anyone, and obviously I hope very few people have ever felt as lonely, abandoned, or sad as Nico!


So . . . now that my huge rant about Nico is over, I was wondering, was anyone else blinking back tears at the end of the story? To me, few stories in Rick Riordan's book have made me laugh or cry as much as this one. (The Blood of Olympus was kind of like that too, although not quite as much!) Leo finally finding love was awesome and hilarious. Piper defeating Khione and waking up Festus was amazing (and mildly funny too). As for Frank defeating the monsters in Venice, Nico getting turned into a corn plant, Hazel almost dying all for one serpent and some barley cakes that taste like sawdust, I was laughing SO hard throughout that entire chapter. But at the end, Percy tells the stars hello—for Bob. Fortunately I read all the companion books (one of the things I love about these books is that unlike most spinoff books, you a) need to read the other books to understand them and b) need to read them to understand the other books), so I understood all about Bob the Titan and how he became Bob. That made it even more heartbreaking in the end when Bob sacrificed himself. It was kind of a repeat from The Blood of Olympus—a villain (Luke) sacrificing himself to save the good guys and dying a hero; however, Luke's character was never developed (at least to me) as much as Bob's was. So I literally cry every time I finish that book. It's not my favorite book overall, but it definitely has some of my favorite scenes it, and it probably stirred my emotions more than almost any of the other books I've read so far.


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Ella My Brother is amaZHANG
sorry I had too


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Ella Julia wrote: "Anamika wrote: "There are hundreds of other things to show that one kid is not alone.Why this?This book is read by many children,it's just polluting their mind. "

Why not this? I've known enough g..."

I completely agree!!


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quq Kelly Brigid ♡ wrote: "Anamika wrote: "Is there anyone else who agrees with me that Nico is actually a good character and Rick kind of spoiled his image by adding something unnecessary?"

Nico was one of my favorite char..."


wait so you think that young kids shouldn’t learn about sexuality or read about gay people? oop homophobe alert


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