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Dec 12, 2015 10:20AM
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Jay wrote: "Brenda wrote: "I believe "e" is the only sexist letter, but "i" is considered narcissistic."And I, O and U are expensive."
And Y is inquisitive to the point of being annoying
Joel wrote: ""Is that a lump of coal in your stocking, or has grampa been sleepwalking again?""I like grandpa's red jammies!
I'm wondering if Joel's implying what I THINK he's implying...
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Jilly, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
Joel wrote: "Jilly, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"Of course, but where are we going to get a bucket of lime Jello and a yak at this hour?
Rodney wrote: "Joel wrote: "Jilly, are you pondering what I'm pondering?"Of course, but where are we going to get a bucket of lime Jello and a yak at this hour?"
Boy scout motto: be prepared.
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It's an English borrowing and bastardization that refers to a 'yak' for both genders. The female of the yak species is actually called a 'nak'. So, if you have a preference, Rodney, you need to be more specific.
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It's an English borrowing and bastardization that refers to a 'yak' for both genders. The fem..."
You have a nak for coming up with stuff like this.
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I can't help it. Ever since my parents forgot to padlock my dark and forbidding basement, I've discovered that this world is really quite interesting.
I recently stumbled across an interesting clash of political incorrectnesses. I was reading Pacific Crucible: War at Sea in the Pacific, 1941-1942. In a discussion on racism as one contributing cause of the Japanese-U.S. conflict in WWII, the author quotes a 1905 The San Francisco Chronicle editorial about immigrants to the United States. Japan sends us not her fittest, but her unfittest; she has sent us the scum that has collected on on the surface of the boiling waters of her new national life, the human waste material for which she herself can find no use. . . .[Japanese immigrants] are a menace to American women.
Those words seemed awfully familiar to me, but after sobering up, I realized that any resemblance between that quote and the following high-brow speechification by a certain political candidate is purely coincidental. I'm sure you will agree.
The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. . . .When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. . . . . They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists.
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That same year, 1905, Japan kicked the snot out of Russia. Even her "un-fittest" were probably no slouches. And I heard the interview where Trump allegedly made those statements. Not a Trump supporter, but he has been blatantly misquoted.
Joel wrote: ."And I heard the interview where Trump allegedly made those statements. Not a Trump supporter, but he has been blatantly misquoted."While I can't personally vouch for the accuracy of the quote, I found several diverse sources with basically the same wording. The following excerpt is from the Fox News website. Other sources included the Manchester Guardian and the Washington Post. And Hey! I never mentioned anybody named Trump.
From FOX: Trump first made his inflammatory remarks during his non-scripted, June 16 presidential announcement speech.
“When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best,” he said during the announcement. “They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/...
Joel said: "That same year, 1905, Japan kicked the snot out of Russia. Even her "un-fittest" were probably no slouches."
True. The author of the book agrees, and he even points out that the U.S. and Japan shared at least one common trait: during the WWI/WWII period, they both believed in their own devinely-endowed exceptionalism. Both countries were racist, and many of the blunders commited by both sides early in the war were made because each side believed the people in the other country were vastly inferior to their own countrymen.
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What are the realistic odds that every Mexican who crosses our border is a criminal?
Facing very simple and easily accessible facts, bigotry has no foundation.
Trump must be sniffing his toupee glue.
What are the realistic odds that every Mexican who crosses our border is a criminal?And he's being misquoted again! He never said that every Mexican crossing our border is a criminal! That quote came from the uber-liberal Paul Begala on CNN who was busy cleaning his ears out with a bottle brush, when Trump made the comment! I saw it all live and nearly threw my plate at the tv.
And I, also, am not a supporter of Trump, but I agree with most of his points, but his method of delivery is bombastic to say the least but our president's strategy (LOL) of patience in the face of terrorism is wearing thin. HC's description of radical jihadists (as opposed to benign jihadists) is also a joke.
Maybe a dozen or more attacks will wake up the rest of the people in this country who believe we have in place a stringent monitoring system and vetting process for all visitors entering our country, and that our borders are in good hands.
When I hear pundits claim that they are merely taking the jobs that even the most hard up Americans would not do, I want to choke them! I've worked heavy construction for over 35 years and believe me they are taking much more of our work than is conveniently reported by the media.
A wall won't keep illegals (whether criminal or terrorist) from entering our borders either but it's time to put something on the table, and put an end to all the frivolous claims that "America faces no existential threat from terrorism" (this coming from our highly imaginative administration) or that illegal immigrants do not take work from American families! BS! Many lower/middle class black families are now coming to realize that many jobs they used to depend on have been taken by some illegal doing it for lower wages while living with a dozen other 'workers' in some studio apartment, who send all the money home in order to become "rich" on their own soil. The laws we have in place for illegals aren't even being enforced because employers are not being put to task on recruitment .
There are no easy answers but I like hearing someone (like many other republican candidates) put into words what most thinking Americans are feeling with no apologies or indecisiveness due to political correctness.
Joel wrote: " Not a Trump supporter, but he has been blatantly misquoted. ."Starting at minute 1:12--Trump quote in his own words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVtB...
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First, the minor point: Trump does not deserve support. We need a narcissist in the White House about as much as we need communal root canal.
Frankly, I prefer that Trump be misquoted. It's certainly more rational and less insulting than what comes out of his mouth.
Next, terrorism has no easy answers.
-Bombing hasn't worked after 50+ years of military intervention in the Middle East.
-Nation-building hasn't worked. Iraq and Afghanistan are a mess.
-Criminal prosecution hasn't worked. No one wants to give the inmates at Guantanamo civil rights or liberties.
-Understanding the threat - Here, we might have a chance, but it's not going to be soon and it's not going to be easy.
One of many, many available online examples of the latter is available at the CIA Open Library: Making Sense of Transnational Threats. Such papers underscore several points:
-Terrorism is not our only threat.
-The complexity of the problem is daunting. From the summary of the above mentioned paper: "In a series of unclassified workshops, Intelligence Community analysts and analytic managers came together on a non-attribution basis with outside thinkers in a broad range of fields relevant to the analytic process, including cognitive psychology, psychiatry, organizational behavior, artificial intelligence, knowledge management, intelligence studies, and the foreign policy process."
-Misunderstanding the threat is going to cost more American lives.
Obama may have worn your patience, but it's certainly better than wasting more young people's lives and trillions of dollars on wars that do nothing but exacerbate the problem. Sometimes, restraint, though certainly unpopular, is the correct course of action.
On immigration, the truth is that a Mexican crossing our border is more likely to be the victim of a crime than a perpetrator. Some of our own border patrol officers and facilities have been investigated and prosecuted for abuses and crimes, including rape and murder.
It is not possible to deport the 11+ million illegal aliens estimated to be living in the US, most of whom did not come across the Mexican border, but flew into the country through international airports. Consider these other very relevant facts on immigration:
-Without America's H-1B Genius visa, used to attract immigrants who are skilled enough to perform highly technical jobs, Silicon Valley would not exist, NASA would present congress with a list of things that we can't accomplish rather than an annual budget, and the US economy would collapse.
-According to the Chamber of Commerce report on Immigrant Entrepreneurs, they created 18% of the Fortune 500 companies in the US. They are among America's largest employers.
-Regarding labor, it's true that immigrants, legal and illegal, compete for jobs, but they are not responsible for depressing wages. The economics are simple. For the past approximately 30 years, wages have remained more or less stagnant while those in top income brackets have more than tripled (some sources say "quadrupled) their annual income. The top 1% now own approximately 40% of US wealth. The top 1/10th of 1% (approximately 16,000 families out of our population of 320+ million) reportedly own between 10 and 20% of all US wealth (varies with source reporting, each study's definition of wealth, etc.).
-50% of annual income paid in the US is paid to the top 20%. That is, 80% of the population must live on the remaining 50%.
-There's another 40 percentile in the mix. Approximately 40% of America's wealth is financial instruments, services and products. Why? Because it pays the wealthy more to invest in financial instruments than to invest in industries that would actually create jobs.
Again, there's no easy answer. However, blaming the illegal alien for the economic woes of the average family is NOT supported by the facts. You'll find a much more realistic explanation if you investigate the reason that the CEO of a hedge fund can "earn" a four BILLION dollar annual salary. Today, 2015 was a down year, so the top hedge fund manager only made a paltry 1.3 billion dollars.
Note also, that 'tax breaks intended to encourage the wealthy to create jobs' is nothing but a myth, although a popular one. That money ends up in financial instruments also. Any competent economist can track that money, and many have. The wealthy have no interest in earning less by creating jobs. However, they have a very real interest in maintaining a readily available scapegoat for the American worker's anger: the illegal immigrant.
Immigrants create jobs for Americans. America's wealthiest citizens do not.
Economics is as much art as it is science, However, a large part of it is simple accounting: Where did the money go? Who creates jobs and who does not? One individual who lost a job to an illegal does not change the 'big picture', although it does fuel anger.
Naturally, you'll see many of these figures vary depending on the structure of any individual study. However, your best info is generally available from government, university, and non-profit sources. Even if the figures don't match exactly between studies, you will be able to note overall trends.
I don't like the answers anymore than anyone else, but the Mexican border is not, and never has been, the cause of all our problems.
In the final analysis, unless one's family is Native American, we're all immigrants, and none of our Founding Fathers applied for a visa, making all of them illegals.
What do you think of Woodland, North Carolina. Apparently the Science teacher has taught the whole town and they all believe that a solar farm will suck up all the energy from the sun. We're doomed! Maybe it's time they got a new science teacher.Here's a good article on it.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/14/nc...
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This is why we are all doomed.
Melki wrote: "Rodney wrote: "What do you think of Woodland, North Carolina. Apparently the Science teacher has taught the whole town and they all believe that a solar farm will suck up all the energy from the su..."This is why I'm glad I live north of the Mason-Dixon line.
Also, everybody, thought I'd share - my book's giveaway started today! Snag a free copy (SOMEONE has to be lucky, right?) Choose Your Own Misery: The Office Adventure
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I investigated this thoroughly with COMPETENT science professors at some of our finest universities. I can now state unequivocally that it is not solar panels that are soaking up all the sun. The real culprit is much more obvious:
Jay wrote: "Wow, Andre!"Wow, Jay! Hold the presses! I only allot myself 2-3 hours on the computer per day, so I’m sorry if my response has not been quick enough. I realize I went on a bit of a rant there, but I had not expected such a novel comeback- or should I say comeback novel? ;)
So I will take it point by point;
First, the minor point: Trump does not deserve support. We need a narcissist in the White House about as much as we need communal root canal.
-But, won’t you still get one when/if HC is elected? Again, Trump’s not my candidate, and I still have no clear choice, as yet.-
Frankly, I prefer that Trump be misquoted. It's certainly more rational and less insulting than what comes out of his mouth.
-Sure, he’s just a bloviating glory hound, but if you say it’s OK to misquote him then be prepared for every candidate you disagree with , or, for that matter, agree with, to be given the same consideration. But we already can’t be sure who to trust now, (CNN, FOX, NBC?) so I can’t imagine you endorse that scenario.-
Next, terrorism has no easy answers.
Bombing hasn't worked after 50+ years of military intervention in the Middle East.
-Agreed. But removing our troops and embassies, along with any surviving Christians and Kurds and then what? Patiently waiting for them to come, I guess is the exalted strategy. The good people of the world won’t let that happen to us!
Nation-building hasn't worked. Iraq and Afghanistan are a mess.
-Agreed, we rebuild them, they tear them down. We got ourselves in the middle of an age old religious war and there’s no easy answer.-
Criminal prosecution hasn't worked. No one wants to give the inmates at Guantanamo civil rights or liberties.
-They are militant combatants caught on the battlefield. Now you expect to turn it into a civil matter? I can hear their attorneys laughing! Where is the video? Where is the hard evidence showing this defendant killing our soldiers? Well, we know what ISIS does with their POW’s. The worst of the worst is housed in Guantanamo and we’ll just send them all back, 2nd class air-fare, of course, with orange t-shirts.-
Understanding the threat - Here, we might have a chance, but it's not going to be soon and it's not going to be easy.
-Agreed! But I think that while many of us understand the threat more than others, as evidenced by queries made to the general public, who’d prefer not to hear any ‘awful news’ and couch themselves in a good Seinfeld episode rather than watch the news or inform themselves about the candidates.-
One of many, many available online examples of the latter is available at the CIA Open Library: Making Sense of Transnational Threats. Such papers underscore several points:
-Thanks for googling that link! But I’m not sure how it relates. Yes there are many other threats.-
Terrorism is not our only threat.
-Obviously not. It’s just the one major topic concerning most of the nation at the present time, according to polls recently taken. So let’s not obfuscate matters like the presidential attempts to minimize the terrorist threat of combatants posing as poor undocumented refugees. “Republicans are afraid of a few women and children refugees, blah, blah, blah” That compounded by the lie that only 2% are men of military age, when every video I have seen has more able-bodied men than women and children combined.-
The complexity of the problem is daunting. From the summary of the above mentioned paper: "In a series of unclassified workshops, Intelligence Community analysts and analytic managers came together on a non-attribution basis with outside thinkers in a broad range of fields relevant to the analytic process, including cognitive psychology, psychiatry, organizational behavior, artificial intelligence, knowledge management, intelligence studies, and the foreign policy process."
-Agreed!-
Misunderstanding the threat is going to cost more American lives.
-Again we agree. Let’s hope neither party underestimates the threats, especially the visible, right-in-you-face threats coming from within and from the many terrorist and rogue nations committed to our destruction, that is brushed off as workplace violence or attributed to gun control and the lack of it.-
Obama may have worn your patience, but it's certainly better than wasting more young people's lives and trillions of dollars on wars that do nothing but exacerbate the problem. Sometimes, restraint, though certainly unpopular, is the correct course of action.
-But we have been restrained for 7 years now, it’s not working, it’s only making things worse, by talking big, painting a red line and backing up does not demonstrate savoir faire or statesmanship. Obama draws lines in the sand they blow it away. Putin backs Assad and we just sit back and hope that it becomes their Afghanistan. Countries that depend on our strength of commitment and stability in protecting them are lacking the confidence they used to have in us.
Meanwhile, someone with the courage, like the king of Jordan, strikes hard, he fights back. God bless him! We need more muslims like him backing the fight against ISIS. But, no, we’ll just let him go to the wayside as well as the Kurds and patiently wait. Yes, I’m tired of that ‘change’ thing from Obama, and his indecisiveness has caused division in our own military complex because there is no committed leadership to task. Ask the numerous generals sacked for being too militant for this administration.-
On immigration, the truth is that a Mexican crossing our border is more likely to be the victim of a crime than a perpetrator. Some of our own border patrol officers and facilities have been investigated and prosecuted for abuses and crimes, including rape and murder.
-Agreed they are victimized. And, that much more rape and murder happens on the other side of the border. Doesn’t mean we should accept that it’s only good peoplecoming across our border. Don’t think there’s any jihadists crossing? Shit, they’ve been crossing over since Chavez came into power, and taught them to pose as spanish-speaking immigrants. They’re just warming up! Wanna bet we’ll have another Paris or San Bernadino happen again in the coming months?-
It is not possible to deport the 11+ million illegal aliens estimated to be living in the US, most of whom did not come across the Mexican border, but flew into the country through international airports. Consider these other very relevant facts on immigration:
-Without America's H-1B Genius visa, used to attract immigrants who are skilled enough to perform highly technical jobs, Silicon Valley would not exist, NASA would present congress with a list of things that we can't accomplish rather than an annual budget, and the US economy would collapse.
-According to the Chamber of Commerce report on Immigrant Entrepreneurs, they created 18% of the Fortune 500 companies in the US. They are among America's largest employers.
-Regarding labor, it's true that immigrants, legal and illegal, compete for jobs, but they are not responsible for depressing wages. The economics are simple. For the past approximately 30 years, wages have remained more or less stagnant while those in top income brackets have more than tripled (some sources say "quadrupled) their annual income. The top 1% now own approximately 40% of US wealth. The top 1/10th of 1% (approximately 16,000 families out of our population of 320+ million) reportedly own between 10 and 20% of all US wealth (varies with source reporting, each study's definition of wealth, etc.).
-50% of annual income paid in the US is paid to the top 20%. That is, 80% of the population must live on the remaining 50%.
-There's another 40 percentile in the mix. Approximately 40% of America's wealth is financial instruments, services and products. Why? Because it pays the wealthy more to invest in financial instruments than to invest in industries that would actually create jobs.
-All those facts and sources I’ll accept, but the point is why allow even more dependents onto the burgeoning rolls of unskilled labor, making the middle and lower classes, that are already scrambling for work, more dependent on government subsistence?-
Again, there's no easy answer. However, blaming the illegal alien for the economic woes of the average family is NOT supported by the facts. You'll find a much more realistic explanation if you investigate the reason that the CEO of a hedge fund can "earn" a four BILLION dollar annual salary. Today, 2015 was a down year, so the top hedge fund manager only made a paltry 1.3 billion dollars.
-No, I have been in the construction field on the west coast, Hawaii, NY and FL working with supervisors and laymen and have seen many industries- highways, residential homes, roofing, to name a few- taken over by undocumented workers because they’ll work for peanuts and contractors couldn’t give a rat’s ass what regulations they ignore.
Hedge funds? Wait! You’re starting to sound like Trump now, who also promises to rein in those vicious hedge fund managers. :D-
Note also, that 'tax breaks intended to encourage the wealthy to create jobs' is nothing but a myth, although a popular one. That money ends up in financial instruments also. Any competent economist can track that money, and many have. The wealthy have no interest in earning less by creating jobs. However, they have a very real interest in maintaining a readily available scapegoat for the American worker's anger: the illegal immigrant.
Immigrants create jobs for Americans. America's wealthiest citizens do not.
-So, it’s all part of some surreptitious plan by American capitalists, to bring in all these illegal immigrants with the intent to what? Give non working Americans a scapegoat?-
Economics is as much art as it is science, However, a large part of it is simple accounting: Where did the money go? Who creates jobs and who does not? One individual who lost a job to an illegal does not change the 'big picture', although it does fuel anger.
-Agreed.-
Naturally, you'll see many of these figures vary depending on the structure of any individual study. However, your best info is generally available from government, university, and non-profit sources. Even if the figures don't match exactly between studies, you will be able to note overall trends.
-Sure. Agreed.-
I don't like the answers anymore than anyone else, but the Mexican border is not, and never has been, the cause of all our problems.
-I’m in agreement up to a certain point, it’s not the cause of most of our problems but it is still up there as a big one or we, the public, wouldn’t be discussing it over and over again, ad nauseam.-
In the final analysis, unless one's family is Native American, we're all immigrants, and none of our Founding Fathers applied for a visa, making all of them illegals.
Finally! The Final Analysis! But the broad statement requires no further discussion. Sure, we all feel guilt over the native american tragedy, but we can’t undo every takeover done throughout civilization’s history. So I will conclude with- if you ever again reply with another literary epic, I will be forced to come over there and throttle you like Sylvester would Tweety-Pie, if given the chance! I won’t add a smiley-face here, but merely imply it.
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Wow, Jay! Hold the presses! I only allot myself 2-3 hours on the computer per day, so I’m sorry if my response has not been quick enough. I realize I went on a bit of a ra..."
One of the great things about political discussions is that they can rant on forever...
I also want you to know that I take Sylvester and Tweety-Pie threats very seriously. If you do not desist, I will report you to Warner Brothers.
While I wholly respect your viewpoints, Andre, (And it has been fun!) at this point, the discussion is moot. All of these problems will be solved as soon as they declare me king.
Only remaining problem: I don't want the job. :-)
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You've given me an idea for solving our Trump problem. Melania is 45 years old. Ole Don's soon going to be shopping for a younger Eastern European wife. Maybe he can become king of the country where Wife #4 is currently attending grade school.
Jay wrote: "CartoonistAndre wrote: "Jay wrote: "Wow, Andre!"Wow, Jay! Hold the presses! I only allot myself 2-3 hours on the computer per day, so I’m sorry if my response has not been quick enough. I realize..."
Everybody wants to be King! But it brings to mind that I'd read a peculiar quote today by Rochefoucauld, Merely two words; "Everybody's right" What the hell does it mean? I don't know. But it made me smile.
I value your opinions and have nothing but good feelings in every post I share, with, everyone here, actually. Now, I need to go look for a certain young friend I'd somehow lost touch with back in the nineties and hope to reconnect.
Hey the important thing is they ever considered naming you King!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/b...
Personally, I'm wavering between funny and pathetic on this article.
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Bomb them now!
Jay wrote: "It seems a good many American really don't care who we bomb as long as it sounds Middle Eastern: ...Personally, I'm wavering between funny and pathetic on this article. "This Randy Newman song called Political Science explains everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iiv-...
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I'm sure you're all aware of the resurgence of political wrangling over gun control. Whether you are pro or con, it seems to me that certain reasonable controls are justified. We should keep guns away from:
Hillbillies – Think about it. Guns and moonshine in the hands of someone who can't keep track of their own teeth.
The Tea Party – Look at the damn pictures! Yep, that's your crazy Uncle What's-his-name standing right there in the middle of that crowd with tea bags dangling from an ill-fitting straw hat that says, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare!" I rest my case.
Fox "News" - Their on air personalities have already shot themselves in the foot enough times. Although, aiming pretty much anything at Bill O'Reilly is still considered a public service.
Public School Graduates - If you can't read the directions, and find .38 and .45 to be confusing numbers...
Certain Truckers – If your self-chosen CB handle is 'Gotawedgie' (or anything similar), you don't need a handgun license, you need to vent the diesel fumes from your truck's cab.
Urban Weekend Hunters – If you can't tell the difference between a White-tail and a Holstein, your ONLY magazines should have centerfolds. Besides, there are no forests or national parks with good deli.
The Severely Nearsighted – If you can't hit the side of a barn except by walking into it... If your telescopic sight has 'Hubble' stenciled on the side... If your second language is Braille... If...
Proctologists – They've seen enough holes in people.
PETA members – Highly unlikely to shoot anything edible.
People over 70 – Cane guns are no longer widely manufactured. Also, since they're leaning on the damn thing to stay upright, a 'carry' permit is just damn poor English.
Greenpeace – Not physically possible. In even a modest Antarctic wind, holding a Japanese Whalers Suck protest sign requires both hands.
Nuns - Sexually frustrated women with live ammunition... What could possibly go wrong?
Astronauts – At $10,000 a pound, launching even a small handgun and a box of ammo means that the International Space Station budget will have to cut back on other vital supplies, like TP for their 40 million dollar space toilet.
Congressman – Oops! Listed in error. Let the bastards shoot each other.
Players of ultraviolent video games – Screw 'em! Before lunch, they've already shot more people than the Marine Corp.
Women who look really, really hot in a bikini - Many poorly designed shoulder and thigh holsters tend to spoil the view. In addition, men generally don't want their women bringing out the leather straps unless they're serious.
I'm sure you all have thought of equally important exclusions that should be included in any pending legislation. Don't sit on the sidelines on this highly controversial issue. Let your voice and your favorite hand canon be heard!
People with ADHD. They get distracted so easily, they shoot the wrong target.Philadelphia sports fans: they're so good at wreaking havoc with just their (drunken) minds and hands. We'd take away their creativity by giving them (more) guns.
I know I'm veering toward serious here, but while we're on the topic of who shouldn't have a gun ... Yes, I live in New Jersey. But at the south end. My city is a bedroom community of Philadelphia. Yesterday, I took my son for his monthly trip to the orthodontist in Philly. We wound up being a half hour late because several roads were blocked off with police cruisers.
We had to park several blocks away from the building where the ortho is, which is technically on a university campus. While walking, my son pointed out that there were an awful lot of police cars with their roof-top lights on but no sirens. I had noticed it, too, but was trying to ignore it because it was a bit creepy.
We went into the office building for his appointment and had to go through armed security -- something we never had to do in the past -- to get to the ortho office. Creepiness facor was enhaced dramatically.
On the way home, we encountered more road closures and police cars. Thank god I always have vodka in the freezer.
Fast forward to this morning on the news: I learned a man who had just pledged his life to Isis had shot a policeman in Philly and that's why there was amped up security.
So I'd like to add: fervent adherents to ANY religion Should NOT be permitted to own a gun.
Why is it that loving a god means you must hate humans?
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But by all means, let's make sure these people can keep on buying weapons at gun shows, It would be terrible if any pesky background checks infringed on ANYONE'S right to own a gun.
Oops! I don't want to fight this war over again. (See messages 166 - 217)
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Sure, fault the new guy for not reading back through the entire thread! :-]]
Guns are, and apparently always will be, a recurring political fight in American politics. However, the solution is obvious:
-We collect all the history books and censor all pictures of the Founding Fathers holding a gun.
If George Washington had had the common decency to put down his musket and pick up a Slurpee, don't you think we'd be better off today?
BTW, every controversy has a lighter side. Can we discuss that without bringing out the big guns????? Thoughts?????
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It's a good thing they left those light sabers out of the Constitution, or we'd really be in trouble.
"The founding fathers' original intent was that the force be used to mind-control the poor, not bleed the rich!"
Good one, Melki!And Lisa, I'm sorry that you and your son experienced that. Let's hope it doesn't become more frequent, not only nationally but world-wide.
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Now he's called the NFL "soft."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2...
Has Trump gone too far this time?
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No, but I'm thinking all those good-ole-boys who eat up his racist rhetoric won't stand for him attacking such a beloved American institution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0d0p...
I happen to agree with the man. You don't see any rugby players wearing those sissy helmets and nancy-padding! What's the game coming to? You supposed to get a bonus when you scramble someone's eggs, for crying out loud!
Twenty years from now the team uniforms may look like this.
Melki wrote: "He's insulted ethnic groups, women, veterans and an entire religion.Now he's called the NFL "soft."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2...
Has..."
"gone too far" should be removed from our lexicon. There isn't a "too far" for anymore, unless you touch on limiting gun ownership or suggest that an introductory phrase can be an important part of a sentence, like in the 2nd amendment. Then every redneck feels himself a grammarian.
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I disagree completely, Gary! 'Gone too far' is perfectly appropriate usage. However...
'Redneck' should be replaced with the more PC, 'ignoramus'.
And...
'Grammarian' should be replaced with the more PC, 'nitpicker'... :-]]
"Gone too far" is appropriate, but I can't think of an instance when it could be used in this election cycle.
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I'm thinking I can't come up with an instance when it COULDN'T be used!
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I'm thinking I can't come up with an instance when it COULDN'T be used!"
Maybe not. In this election cycle, no matter how stupid the sound bite, it can always be Trumped.
It just happens that the leading contenders from each party are considerably "unlikeable" according to most polls and both have enough baggage to fill a stadium. I think, like Ethan Couch, they suffer from a form of affluenza, otherwise known as affluence disorder, and that's how they can get away with what they do, and have done for years. They believe they are doing what's right, so, they must be doing what's right!
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