Martin, George R.R: A Feast for Crows ("Buddy Read" Revisit) Start Date: March 2, 2014 [A Song of Ice & Fire #4]

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Goodreads Synopsis:
Few books have captivated the imagination and won the devotion and praise of readers and critics everywhere as has George R. R. Martin’s monumental epic cycle of high fantasy. Now, in A Feast for Crows, Martin delivers the long-awaited fourth book of his landmark series, as a kingdom torn asunder finds itself at last on the brink of peace...only to be launched on an even more terrifying course of destruction.

A Feast for Crows

It seems too good to be true. After centuries of bitter strife and fatal treachery, the seven powers dividing the land have decimated one another into an uneasy truce. Or so it appears....With the death of the monstrous King Joffrey, Cersei is ruling as regent in King’s Landing. Robb Stark’s demise has broken the back of the Northern rebels, and his siblings are scattered throughout the kingdom like seeds on barren soil. Few legitimate claims to the once desperately sought Iron Throne still exist—or they are held in hands too weak or too distant to wield them effectively. The war, which raged out of control for so long, has burned itself out.

But as in the aftermath of any climactic struggle, it is not long before the survivors, outlaws, renegades, and carrion eaters start to gather, picking over the bones of the dead and fighting for the spoils of the soon-to-be dead. Now in the Seven Kingdoms, as the human crows assemble over a banquet of ashes, daring new plots and dangerous new alliances are formed, while surprising faces—some familiar, others only just appearing—are seen emerging from an ominous twilight of past struggles and chaos to take up the challenges ahead.

It is a time when the wise and the ambitious, the deceitful and the strong will acquire the skills, the power, and the magic to survive the stark and terrible times that lie before them. It is a time for nobles and commoners, soldiers and sorcerers, assassins and sages to come together and stake their fortunes...and their lives. For at a feast for crows, many are the guests—but only a few are the survivors.

Reading Schedule: - Posting every three days, excluding breaks.

Date Chapters 
March 02-04 Prologue - 11 (The Kraken's Daughter)
March 05-07 12 (Cersei) - 23 (Alayne)
March 08 BREAK / CATCH-UP
March 09-11 24 (Cersei) - 29 (The Reaver)
March 12-14 30 (Jamie) - 37 (Brienne)
March 15 BREAK / CATCH-UP DAY
March 16-19 38 (Jamie) - 45 (Samwell)
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Chapter Breakdown

Date Chapters 	PPDQs*
March 02	Prologue - Chapter 03		Lisarenee 
March 03	Chapter 04 - Chapter 07		Lisarenee
March 04	Chapter 08 - Chapter 11		Lisarenee
March 05	Chapter 12 - Chapter 15		Sandy
March 06	Chapter 16 - Chapter 19		Lisa Kay
March 07	Chapter 20 - Chapter 23		Lisa Kay 
March 08	BREAK / CATCH-UP
March 09	Chapter 24 - Chapter 25		Lisarenee	
March 10	Chapter 26 - Chapter 27		Lisa Kay		
March 11	Chapter 28 - Chapter 29		Lisarenee		
March 12	Chapter 30 - Chapter 32		Lisarenee	
March 13	Chapter 33 - Chapter 35		Lisarenee 
March 14	Chapter 36 - Chapter 37		Lisa Kay 
March 15	BREAK / CATCH-UP
March 16	Chapter 38 - Chapter 39		Sandy 
March 17	Chapter 40 - Chapter 41		Lisarenee
March 18	Chapter 42 - Chapter 43		Combined with next!! 
March 19	Chapter 44 - Chapter 45		Lisarenee 

PPDQs* = Person Posting Discussion Questions & Comments

Here are the chapter divisions so we can all stay in sync:

Prologue - pages 1 - 23
Chapter 1 - The Prophet - pages 24 - 41
Chapter 2 - The Captain of the Guards - pages 42 - 64
Chapter 3 - Cersei - pages 65 - 79
Chapter 4 - Brienne - pages 80 - 100
Chapter 5 - Samwell - pages 101 - 123
Chapter 6 - Ayra - pages 124 - 139
Chapter 7 - Cersei - pages 140 - 163
Chapter 8 - Jaime - pages 164 - 183
Chapter 9 - Brienne - pages 184 - 205 
Chapter 10 – Sansa - pages 206 - 225
Chapter 11 – The Kraken's Daughter - pages 226 - 243
Chapter 12 – Cersei - pages 244 - 262
Chapter 13 – The Soiled Knight - pages 263 - 282
Chapter 14 - Brienne - pages 283 - 305
Chapter 15 – Samwell - pages 306 - 321
Chapter 16 - Jaime - pages 322 - 337
Chapter 17 – Cersei - pages 338 - 361
Chapter 18 – The Iron Captain - pages 362 - 378
Chapter 19 – The Drowned Man - pages 379 - 397
Chapter 20 – Brienne - pages 398 - 423
Chapter 21 – The Queenmaker - pages 424 - 443
Chapter 22 - Arya - pages 444 - 466
Chapter 23 - Alayne - pages 467 - 489
Chapter 24 – Cersei - pages 490 - 516
Chapter 25 – Brienne - pages 517 - 536
Chapter 26 – Samwell - pages 537 - 556
Chapter 27 – Jaime - pages 557 - 583
Chapter 28 – Cersei - pages 584 - 607
Chapter 29 – The Reaver - pages 608 - 633
Chapter 30 – Jaime - pages 634 - 655
Chapter 31 - Brienne - pages 656 - 673
Chapter 32 – Cersei - pages 674 - 693
Chapter 33 – Jaime - pages 694 - 717
Chapter 34 – Cat of the Canals - pages 718 - 739
Chapter 35 – Samwell - pages 740- 753
Chapter 36 – Cersei - pages 754 - 777
Chapter 37 – Brienne - pages 778 - 799
Chapter 38 - Jaime - pages 800 - 818
Chapter 39 – Cersei - pages 819 - 837
Chapter 40 – The Princess in the Tower - pages 838 - 863
Chapter 41 - Alayne - pages 864 - 896
Chapter 42 – Brienne - pages 897 - 916
Chapter 43 – Cersei - pages 917 -939
Chapter 44 - Jaime - pages 940 - 958
Chapter 45 – Samwell - pages 959 - 976

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Questions for Prologue - Chapter 3
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1) This book is entitled 'A Feast For Crows'. Going in to this one what do you think the significance of the title could be?

2) Any ideas as to who the alchemist was and what he'd use the key for? I was trying to rack my brain about the description and was wondering if it might be Varys or the guy who killed for Arya?

3) So the Grejoys are undecided who should rule. Anyone else think this could get interesting?

4) What did you think of the way Greyjoy died? Death by fall? Could Melisandre have had a hand in this one?

5) Anyone notice the change in houses for the Starks listed in the back of the book? Now they're listed with the other houses and aren't listed as one of the dominant ones anymore.

6) I now get the expression Damphair - Damp hair. I kept thinking of dhampir. Why? I have no idea.

7) What do you think of the drowning? At first I thought it was like baptism. I'm not thinking that anymore.

8) Did I miss something? What is a Kingsmoot? Where is a glossary when you need one?

9) First thoughts of Prince Oberyn's daughters, Obara, Nymeria, Tyene?

10) Any predictions about what will happen to Prince Doran?

11) Anyone think the Lannisters will start dwindling in numbers in this book?

12) Thoughts on Cersei and the way she treated Jaime?

13) Do you think Tyrion is long gone?
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Questions for Chapter 4 (Brienne) - Chapter 7 (Cersei)
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14) We now know Brienne is looking for Sansa and she isn't the only one. Why do you think she left her "friends"? To get away from her competition so to speak or for another reason?

15) Do you think the rumors of Brienne killing Renly will ultimately lead to her demise?

16) Interesting only Jaime's teasing bothered Brienne. Could she perhaps have feelings for him? Could you imagine Cersei's reaction if Jaime were to pick Brienne over her. :)

17) What did you think of the mouse transition between chapters 4 & 5? Wonder why Martin did that? Is there a hidden meaning? Could it represent spies or something?

18) Samwell is hunting for information about the Others. Not much new information to be had. Just a reaffirming of what is there. Do you think that Jon should have sent Samwell away? Do you think he resents being voted to his current position? Interesting how many Stark relatives seemed to have taken the position as Wall commander.

19) Had to chuckle at the nick name "Sam the Seducer". Why do you think Gilly fled the way she did from Samwell? Why did she not like him calling her Lady?

20) Dragonsteel = Valyrian steel? Could this be a lost reason as to why a weapon forged of valyrian steel is so cherished and prized?

21) What is so awful about becoming a maester?

22) What the heck?????? Why is everything associated with R'hllor so Creepy???? What were your thoughts on the city Arya is in? Why do they not like her being a Stark?

23) Funeral was pretty uneventful. Thoughts on poor Lancel? Do you think her uncle knows about the affair?

24) Shocker!!! Ser Kevan was a surprise. Did you see his ultimatum coming?

25) I don't think it's right to marry Margaret to Tommen.

26) What did you think of Lady Merryweather, the only person who supposedly impressed Cersei?

27) What did you think of Cersei's reaction to Lolly naming her child after Tywin?

28) Do you think the issue of Master of Coin will come into play later?
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Questions for Chapters 8 (Jaime) - 11 (The Kracken's Daughter)
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28) Jaime is feeling guilty for letting Tyrion get away. He feels responsible for his father's death. What do you think Cersei would do if he confessed?

29) Do you think Varys is with Tyrion? Do you think he'll show his face at the castle again?

30) Is it just me or is it a bit morbid the way they keep talking about Tywin's corpse smiling? Can we not go there? Ewww!

31) Sound like Jaime will believe what Tyrion said about Cersei sleeping around. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. He also seems to be catching on to the fact she only seeks him out when she needs something.

32) What do you think of Cersei comparing herself to her father? Didn't she used to do this with Jaime?

33) Seems like the painting of the shield is a big deal. I'm not sure why. A tree with leaves and fallings stars. Wonder what it means?

34) Seems like Brienne is on the right track to finding Sansa and finding out what happened. She now knows a third person was probably involved in spiriting her away.

35) Are you worried for Sansa? So far it doesn't seem like Littlefinger is making any more advances on her. He is sharing enough information that she could probably get him hanged for treason.

35) Who is the real man Petyr or Littlefinger?

36) Is there still hope for little Robert? What do you think of Sansa taking care of him? I'm wondering if he has epilepsy?

37) What do you think of Asha's wish to rule? Not a big surprise, but can she pull it off? Do you think she and Cersei may be spun from the same cloth?

38) Do you think Theon's truly dead? Sounded like he was a goner, but he's not the first person we've thought that of.

A little side note: I heard a rumor that the people making the TV show are going to change either Asha's or Osha's name because the two sound too similar. What do you think of that?

Actress cast as Brienne...honestly, this actress is not ugly: Casting Rumors. Guess they'll use makeup and prosthetics?

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Questions for Chapter 12 (Cersei) through Chapter 15 (Samwell)
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39. I think Cersei is truly losing it. She’s going to be Nut Bunny 2. She has lost her son and father, and essentially she has lost the twin brother she was in love with. She is completely paranoid and (rightfully) trusts no one. She keeps flashing back to Maggy the Frog who told Cersei a more beautiful and younger queen would take her place and take all she holds dear. Cersei thinks this could be Margaery, but it could also be Myrcella. I hope it is Daenerys! Do you think Lady Merryweather is telling the truth about Senelle spying for the Tyrells? We know that Tyrion didn’t poison Joff, yet Lady Merryweather testified she saw Tyrion do it. Is someone paying her or is she just out to gain Cersei’s favor? (apologies if this is a rambling post.)

40. Do you think that the Tyrells were justified in wanting Tommen and Margaery to sleep together? I think it’s odd, given there’s no way they’re going to consummate the marriage. What purpose does this serve? Merely symbolic?

41. Oh, looks like we may have a Hound sighting. It’s definitely possible that he still lives. I think Cersei is right to fear his return.

42. The end of the chapter finds Cersei linking arms with Kettleblack and gleefully watching the tower burn. Do you think she intended this as a direct insult to Jaime? Also, does she seem crazy to you or is it just me?

43. In The Soiled Knight’s Chapter there appears to be the beginning of a war between those who want Myrcella as Queen and those who want Tommen. Which child do you believe has the greater claim to the throne? I was surprised Arys let his manhood rule his brain when he agreed to stand for Myrcella. His love for Arianne appears to be genuine, but I fear she is playing him like a Stradivarius. I don’t even want to try to speculate who in Westeros will stand for Tommen and who will stand for Myrcella.

44. OK, so it took a long time to sink in that Randyll Tarly is Sam’s father. I am a little slow. After witnessing how brutal he is when dispensing his justice, I have to say it must have been very difficult for Sam growing up, and also, how could Sam be related to this guy? Perhaps his mom had a honey on the side? Hey, it could happen!

45. Brienne has proven herself capable of taking on the role of knight. Why is Tarly so against it? Do you suppose he is threatened by her?

46. I was really getting tired of Sam’s puking and Gilly’s sobbing. Finally we are told the babies were switched (way to go, Lisa Kay!!). I can completely sympathize with her now and I felt bad for being annoyed at her. So, Jon switched them so that Melisandre would not kill sacrifice Mance Raydar’s baby, but how can he condone any baby being killed sacrificed? Not sure I follow the logic in this one.

47. Any speculation on how Randyll Tarly will receive Sam, Gilly and the baby? I hope Brienne befriends them somehow.
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Questions for Chapters 16 (Jaime) - 19 (The Drowned Man)
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48. Ser Kevan doesn’t appear to know of the discord between Cersei and Jaime; do you think knowing that would make a difference to him in his attitude toward Jaime? Is there a liaison in the making there?

49. Jaime doubts Tyrion’s words about Lancel and Cersei but not about his killing King Joffrey. Is that frustrating or what?

50. Why would Bronn, now Ser Bronn of the Blackwater, have Lollys’s child named Tyrion? Was this his smartest move, considering? Does he still have some loyalty toward Tyrion, or is he just thumbing his nose at Cersei?

51. What is with having the large skull of Ser Gregor cleaned by beetles before it is presented to Prince Doran in recompense for the murders of his sister, Elia (wife of Prince Rhaegar Targaryen), her child Prince Aegon, and Prince Oberyn Martell, the Red Viper? To obscure any dissimilarity? If the leeches that were put to Ser Gregor died, why were the beetles able to eat his flesh?

52. Which Queen will Taena Merryweather ultimately side with: Cersei or Margaery? Why would Cersei let her know about her scheming with Ser Osney Kettleblack after Jamie warned her she is Margaery’s spy?

53. What was Jaime trying to tell Loras in that history lesson?

54. Where do I begin with Cersei? I guess I’ll follow Sandy’s suit, and go with more rambling questions about her: Which of her decisions will bring her downfall? Selecting Lord Qyburn for (her) small council and thinking him oh so clever? Appointing Ser Harys Swyft as (her) “hostage” Hand? Overindulging in drink, especially at small council meetings? Underestimating Jaime’s ability and making fun of him? Ignoring the “sparrows” invading King’s Landing? Thinking one High Septon will serve as well as the other? Not becoming involved in the politics of the Vale? Believing House Bolton would settle for half of the north after being promised the whole? Not paying the Iron Bank or the Faith of the Seven their due? Giving command of the royal navy to Aurane Waters, a man of questionable background and not exactly known for his fidelity? Counting on Lord Walder Frey’s death before it happens, or that his family will fight among themselves once he is gone? Believing a White Harbor alliance can be so easily achieved? Planning to assassinate Jon Snow by way of Ser Osney Kettleblack? Or ignoring the rumor of dragons?

55. You impression of Victarion? Would he have made a good king? Was he justified in beating his wife to death? Should he have thrown his support behind his niece, Asha? Can he forgive his brother, the Crow’s Eye, Euron; accept and honor him as the king to sit in the Seastone Chair?

56. What did you think of the kingsmoot? I actually liked Asha’s speech and she almost swayed me to her side. Alas, her nuncle, the Crow’s Eye, Euron, won the day. Think there will be dissention in the ranks?
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Questions for Chapters 20 (Brienne) - 23 (Alayne)
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57. Okay, I’ll admit confusion. Why did Dick Crabb (Nimble Dick) take Brienne to Whispers, the ruined castle on Crackclaw Point, if he knew that he had conned Shagwell, Timeon and Pyg by selling them a map to that local? Wouldn’t he have expected their wrath? Or did Dick really believe Shagwell was that much of a fool – and inept to boot? He couldn’t have expected them to actually have found smugglers in a cove that hasn’t been active for over 30 years. I don’t get it.

58. Were you proud of Podrick or what? Throwing stones at Shagwell – ha! I’m glad he is with Brienne. Oh, well. Might as well not get too attached. If I like him, he won’t last too much longer.

FYI – I had to get the characters for “The Queenmaker” chapter straight and admit I consulted Wiki Ice (I inserted some clarifying info):

• Arianne Martell (eldest daughter) expected a marriage match that befit her rank as a high lord's heiress.

• Instead, her father, Prince Doran, publicly entertained suits from various elderly lords such as Lord Walder Frey and forbade more attractive matches to high-ranking heirs such as Ser Edmure Tully and Willas Tyrell (crippled eldest son and heir of Lord Mace Tyrell).

• Prince Doran's apparently humble marriage plans for her, coupled with the vague misinformation put out by him regarding her brother's location, brought Arianne to the conclusion that her father intended for her dutiful younger brother, Quentyn, to succeed him, passing over Arianne entirely.

59. The BIG questions are:

a) What will happen to Arianne now? (Assuming Areo Hotah is in her father’s employ. As captain of Doran Martell's guards, he arrested the Sand Snakes on his orders…so it stands to reason he remains his loyal servant despite any fondness he has for the "little princess" – as he affectionately calls Arianne.)

b) Who was it that told of her plans? Was he/she present at the ambush?

c) Where is Arianne younger brother, Quentyn? (Not to be confused with disgraced former maester Qyburn, in Cersei’s employ.)

d) What is the extent of injury to Princess Myrcella? Is she really Princess Myrcella or is she Rosamund?

60. What do you think of the “kindly man”? Does he have Arya’s best interests at heart? He keeps asking who she is; when is she going to ask who he is?

61. Did you think for even a second that Arya would toss Needle into the canal’s water?

62. Okay, confused again. I didn’t understand the story about the firewyrms, nor the part about: “Will I be like her?” “No,” he said, “not unless you wish it. It is the poisons that have made her as you see her.” What does emptying a stone flagon into the water of the black pool have to do with anything?

63. Arya, as Cat, is now to be more than just an acolyte. Will she learn not only how to detect lies, but change her face while in the House of Black and White in Braavos? Will she have to take poisons to do so? Pretty handy skills, those. Whatever will she do with them?

FYI – Something that stumped me – and I had a heck of a time finding it on Wiki Ice – is who is Bronze Yohn (the one who asked Alayne/Sansa “Do I know you, girl?”)? Besides being one of the signatories of the Lords Declarant he is:

• Lord Yohn Royce, better known as Bronze Yohn.

• Lord of Runestone and head of House Royce. He is sworn to House Arryn.

• He has a set of bronze armor, thousands of years old, that is inscribed with runes that ward him from harm.

• He has three sons, Andar, Robar and Waymar, all knights.

• He came north with his son, Waymar, when his son joined the Night's Watch.

• He was defeated by Prince Rhaegar Targaryen at the Tourney at Harrenhal.

• He stayed in King's Landing, participating in a boar hunt with the king, a boar hunt which killed Robert I.

64. What is going to happen when “Alayne” runs out of hair dye?

FYI – Pertinent facts on Ser Lyn Corbray from Wiki Ice:

• He was one of Lady Lysa Tully’s suitors; he also stayed with her at the Eyrie for half a year after Jon's death.

• Ser Lyn offered himself as a champion for Lady Lysa on Tyrion Lannister's trial by battle, stating that he was the surest sword there.

• He is notoriously not interested in women.

65. "Gold and boys and promises…" Just what are Littlefinger's “promises”? Does this mean Littlefinger might swing both ways – if it benefits his plans? Or, since House Corbray of Heart’s Home is a noble – if poor – house did he conspire with Littlefinger mainly for gold?
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Chapter 24(Cersei) - Chapter 25 (Brienne)
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66) Margaery is definitely having fun with Cersei. Do you think Cersei is going do lose it soon?

67) If Cerei's daughter ends up scarred from her injury to the face, do you think she'll treat her differently?

68) I think the Iron Bank will retaliate in some way, but I don't know how. Anyone else thing so?

69) I also think Cersei is going down. Soon. Do you think Martin's done almost all he could with her?

70) Cersei practically confessed that Robert isn't her sons father when she said jousting was in Tommen's father's blood.

71) Do you think Margaery is as dangerous as the Queen of thorns?

72) Dear goodness poor Sennelle. Cersei is awful! Is Qyburn the one that lost his chain because he liked to slice up live people all in the name of study?

73) Thoughts about Rhaeger's rejection?

74) Interesting how when we looked at Jaime's thoughts we ended up liking him. This is not the case with Cersei. What do you think would be a fitting demise for Cersei? Do you think Tommen will survive till the end of the series? The end of the book?

75) Now Cersei is going after Bronn and puppeteers. She's a crazy nut bunny hopping down the nut bunny trail.

76) Thoughts on Ser Hyle? I can't figure out if he likes Brienne or not. Could that whole contest have been a ruse to see if she liked men at all? Boost his ego because she turned him down or does he just like playing with her?

77) Do you believe the Hound survived? I don't. If it's not him who could be masquerading as him?

78) Do you think that Arya's wolf is amassing a force for her? Why have the two been separated for so long?

79) Any thoughts about Meribald?
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Questions for Chapters 26 (Samwell) – 27 (Jaime)
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80. Why is Maester Aemon so adamant about knowing more about the dragons? Is this just senile curiosity? Or does he know or seek something more?

81. When she first spoke up, did you suspect (or hope) “the girl” – Cat – outside the Cattery brothel was Arya?

82. Dareon! Another singer who is less than admirable. Were you more surprised he gave up the Black or that Samwell hit him? What will be his fate now?

83. Eek! All I could think of when Samwell landed in that icky canal water was in that poison the Waif had been pouring in there. You?

84. Xhondo, from the Summer Islands, saved Samwell and knows of dragons. Do you think his information will be correct? Yea or nay, what will Maester Aemon do with it?

85. Okay, Jaime is pretty angry with Cersei and appears to become more and more disgusted with her, but he still lusts after her. Will that lust ever fade?

86. What do you think of Jaime’s practicing his sword wielding with Ser Ilyn? It doesn’t sound as if they have any leather guards on them. I keep thinking Jaime could lose his other hand. Or am I mistaken? Think Jaime will ever become as proficient?

FYI – Okay, I went back to Wiki Ice to look up Tyrek Lannister (no wonder I could only vaguely remember him; the “mob” incident was in A Clash of Kings):

a) Tyrek is a squire alongside his cousin Lancel Lannister to King Robert Baratheon (thus, he may have information – re: his activities & death – that is vital to Varys).

b) Tyrek is married to Lady Ermesande Hayford, (a baby – thus Tyrek’s nickname of “Wet Nurse” – & she’s the last of her line, House Hayford).

c) Driven by hunger, a mob attacked a royal party that had gone to the harbor to bid safe journey to Princess Myrcella. In the riot a number of men were killed. Tyrek went missing and is presumed dead.

d) As Commander of the Goldcloaks, Addam Marbrand (Jaime’s childhood friend – who is with him now) was charged with locating Tyrek or his body, with no luck.

87. Was Varys the mastermind of the riot? Is Tyrek now his captor or co-conspirator? Or was he languishing somewhere forgotten?

88. Ser Bonifer Hasty (who once sided with King Renly & then King Stannis, but was forgiven by King Joffery) is now Castellan of Harrenhal. What do you think of him? The pendulum has swung the other way it seems, as he is pretty pious; are the people there any better off? What will Petyr Baelish do about it, or will he even care?

FYI – Ser Ronnet Connington, also known as Red Ronnet, is the Knight of Griffin's Roost (he once sided with King Renly & King Stannis – and was captured in Blackwater, after which he bent his knee to King Joffrey). He has the duel honor of once being betrothed to Brienne and unhorsed by her.

89. Were you surprised that Jaime took offence at his comments and punched Red Ronnet? For a man who wouldn’t call Brienne by her name, he sure changed his tune. Are his feelings running deeper for her than he will admit, or is it just admiration?
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Questions for Chapters 28 (Cersei) – 29 (The Reaver)
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Interesting information about Septons. From Wiki Ice:

The High Septon is the head of the Faith of the Seven. While historically, the High Septon ruled from the Starry Sept in Oldtown, with the coming of Aegon Targaryen, the High Septon at the time threw his support behind Aegon and eventually relocated to the new capital of King's Landing.

The selection of a new High Septon is traditionally in the hands of the Most Devout but the will of past Targaryen Kings has often influenced their choice. Baelor the Blessed had a stoneworker and an eight-year old boy chosen for the office. A new High Septon extends the practice of septons giving up their family names by renouncing any kind of individual name. This leads to trouble distinguishing between various past holders of the office, as one can only refer to them by descriptions such as "the fat one" or the "one before the fat one."

90) Thoughts on the high Septon? Does he strike you as not quite right in the head or crazy like a fox?

91) Someone's sister jailed for being to beautiful? Did anyone wonder if Cersei would be next?

92) When will Martin stop punishing us with more Cersei? These are my least favorite chapters. We get she doesn't like Tyrion. Geesh!

93) What did you think of the High Septon saying he'd bless Tommen?

94) Cersei's uncovered some of the pieces of Jeoffry's death, but has parts wrong. What do you think she'll do?

95)"Your Grace laughs so prettily." Lady Margaery gave her a quizzical smile. "Might we share the jest?"
"You will," the queen said. "I promise you , you will." - Is this a threat?

96) So Euron wants to wed Dany. Thoughts?

97) Now we have naked ladies serving food? I guess you could see something like this coming.

98) Victorian seems a better man than Euron. Do you prefer either over the other at this point and, if so, why?

99) Does Euron remind you of Asha in male form? How do you pronounce Euron? I keep thinking like Urine. Very distracting.

100) Thoughts on Euron stealing Victarion's men?

101) Anyone besides myself and Victarion wish Euron had decided to pull a Peter Pan and attempt to fly out the window? (hide spoiler)]

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Questions Chapter 30 (Jaime) - Chapter 32 (Cersei)
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102) Jaime now knows the truth about Cersei. Still do not know the outcome of his knowledge.

103) We know Cersei probably does lover her brother in the only way she could, that being after herself.
Showing she has no concept of the word.

104) We found out a bit about Robert's and Cersei's marriage, but not exactly what he did to her. It's just hinted at. I think this is a first for Martin. He's usually quite quick about giving details.

105) Lancel seems to have lost it. What do you think of his confessing his sins to the Septon?

106) Sounds like the Hound did indeed die.

107) I'm sick of Cersei flashbacks. Gah! I can't dislike her more.

108) Do you think it's okay for Brienne to sleep alone? I worry about her.

109) What do you think of the Elder brother? Who is he?

110) Cersei is a mad queen literally and figuratively. She can't see truth because she's so paranoid. I don't think she'll have long to live. Do I sound like a broken record.

111) What do you think of Ser Loras' latest quest? Is it a suicide mission?

112) She made a big enemy of Bronn. Can't wait to see how he'll handle it.

113) Another person given to Qyborn. Gah! Cersei is heartless.
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114) We finally know what happened to Edmund. I feel bad for his pregnant wife. What kind of father or was it grandfather would do that to his granddaughter or daughter? Plus, the whole noose around the neck????

115) Now I guess everyone will think twice before breaking an engagement to a Frey. Do you think anything will happen to Lancel?

116) I like Jaime's aunt a whole lot. I would like to see more of her.

117) A very different version of Lysa was presented to us. Thoughts?

118) Arya. Dear Goodness! She's blind. I hope it's temporary.

119) Do you think this is how Varys and the lot collect information? Use children like Arya to uncover secrets?

120) Surprised Gilly and Samwell did the deed?

121) He really didn't have a choice but to stay with Gilly. What are your thoughts about this?

122) All the talk of dragons is interesting. Did Aemon wanted him to tell them they'd gotten the prophecy wrong. A dragon is sexless. Made me wonder how you make baby dragons, but I digress. So there was a prophecy about the comet. Did we know that already? I don't recall hearing of one.

123) I think I forgot to mention in the chapter with Victarion and Euron, but what do you make of the story of the egg thrown into the sea by Euron?

124) I wonder where will Samwell end up?
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125. Cersei had to listen to what happened to Ser Loras TWICE? In detail? Comments. Arrows, broken ribs and burning oil? Do you think he will die?

126. If Cersei keeps sending everyone who displeases her to the Mad Scientist, Qyburn, she’s not going to have anyone left willing to hunt dwarfs. And Lady Falyse is alive but “not entirely comfortable”… **shivers**

127. Does Lord Hallyne of the Guild of Alchemist really have a dragon egg? If so, whose royal blood will be used to hatch it?

128. Cersei continues to have banking issues; will this be her downfall? Or her interference with the High Septon’s/Sparrow’s conversion of the whores on the Street of Silk?

129. Lord Gyles seemed pretty sick to me, when last we saw/heard him. We know Cersei is paranoid, but is she right? Is someone really hastening his death?

130. Whoa! King Tommen finally REALLY stood up to his mother, and in defense of his wife, Queen Margaery. Cersei really lost it there and seemed excessively paranoid and cruel to me. I think there is a possibility that it may be her own son who turns against her. Do you?

131. “…the valonquar shall wrap his hand about your pale white throat and choke the life from you…” was foretold by Maggy the Frog to Cersei. We know “volonaqar” means brother. Now the question is: which one? Tyrion or Jamie?

132. What nefarious plans does Cersei have for the “little queen”; death or false accusations of adultery? Or does one lead to the other?

133. Am I the only one who was thinking what a massive army the Others will have if whoever is hanging all those people keeps hanging them?

134. Just when Brienne is about to tell Gendry who his sire is, she’s interrupted. Think she’ll live to tell him?

135. I’ll admit it. I STILL don’t know who it was pretending to be the Hound. Do you?

136. Gross. All that description about Biter disfiguring Brienne. Disgusting. And that whole “sword-tongue” thing at the end of the chapter was because someone thrust a real sword through the back of his head, right? Not anything beastly or paranormal. Was it Ser Hyle, Gendry, Septon Meribald, or maybe even Willow?
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Questions for Chapter 38 (Jaime) – Chapter 39 (Cersei)
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137. I found myself rooting for Jaime in the parlay with Blackfish. Anyone else?

138. Jaime offered Edmure in exchange for Lady Sybelle Westerling and her 3 daughters. I thought that was a pretty good deal!

139. Surprised that Jaime freed Edmure?

140. I thought Jaime’s offer to Edmure was very generous, especially considering the Tullys are outnumbered and out-armed. Do you think Edmure will accept the terms?

141. What is it about singers and songs in this series? Edmure’s reaction to the singer seems like fear…was this the same singer who sang the Rains of Castemere at the Red Wedding?

142. Lisa Kay asked this earlier, but it’s worth visiting again: was Gyles murdered or did he die of natural causes?

143. I am losing track of what is real and what is fabricated in the characters’ minds. When Pycelle tells Cersei that Margaery was asking for Moon Tea, this is proof that Margaery is doing the deed with someone other than her (too young for doing the deed) husband. Now, did Pycelle make it up to appease Cersei, or is it really true? Cersei had been pushing one of the Kettleblacks to sleep with the young Queen, did it finally happen when Loras went away? Or could she be sleeping with someone else? Or was she really sleeping with her brother? Maybe she was asking for it to intentionally cause suspicion, but that would be a very dangerous game to play, no?

144. Did I miss something? Why is the singer accused? Were his confessions true or torture-created? How about that torture scene? **shudders**

145. I don’t trust Lady Merryweather. I think she’s up to something, perhaps plotting with her husband? He seemed mighty uncomfortable at that dinner.

146. Uh-oh, is Cersei about to get raped?
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147) Wow! What a revelation. Arianne was to be Dany's sister-in-law. No doubt as to whose side that group is on. I can't help wondering why they agree to marry Myrcella into the family in the first place? Is this one of those keep your enemies close things?

148) Poor Myrcella is scarred for life and missing an ear.

149) Dorne is still hers, but will there me greater punishment than her being locked up? Looks like she truly had feelings for Ayrs.

150) Do you think Quentyn is with Dany or on his way to be with her?

151) What do you make of Littlefinger's plans for Sansa?

152) Littlefinger seems to like Sansa's kisses a little too much. Anyone else worried about Littlefinger's unwanted advances?

153) Do you think little robert is too sick to survive? Could they be poisoning him? The asking about blood just made me wonder.

154) I think Sansa loves her cousin Robert even if he is a pain. He seems to rely on her. She's taking the place of his mother. What are your thoughts on all this?

155) Thoughts of Myranda Royce? Could she give Sansa trouble?
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I'm going to start this one out with the shocking stuff first.

156) Catelyn and Brienne reunited. Do you think Brienne will die?

157) Podrick dead???? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

158) Rob's wife's family was in on killing him? Oh dear goodness! I'm utterly speechless! Anyone see this coming?

159) Cersei and Margaery held by the Septa??????? What did Cersie unleash?

160) Cersei's note to Jaime was very vague. I don't blame him for not going. Do you think he would have if he realized what a mess she'd landed herself in?

161) Any thoughts on what letting Ser Brynden escape will do?

162) Freys going to side with Stannis? Could be an interesting developement.

163) I have to say I hate how women are made to look so frail and stupid in this book. I want Dany! I'm even questioning Arya's intelligence since she took up with the creepy guy with a worm in his eye socket.

164) I'm a little confused. Samwell ended up where he was supposed to go, but Gilly will stay with the Islanders?

165) Thoughts on the visit with the archmaester?

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[Zonnah]

I can not wait to start reading!

[Renee]

Zonnah wrote: "I can not wait to start reading!"

Me too, see you here in 7 sleeps.

[Teresa]

Looking forward to it.

[JoEllen]

I started this once before and then never finished it. I'm hoping having people to discuss it with will help me get through it this time. I really want to read the next book.

[JoLene]

I started this last month since I'm a slow reader. I have been doing roughly a chapter per day. I am interested to hear what others think.

[Renee]

Questions for Prologue - Chapter 3
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1) This book is entitled 'A Feast For Crows'. Going in to this one what do you think the significance of the title could be?
Crows are the Nights Watch, so I think alot of the story might be based there. It's a feast for crows not of crows, so maybe the nights watch will prevail. Or a feast for crows might just pertain to lots of death.

2) Any ideas as to who the alchemist was and what he'd use the key for? I was trying to rack my brain about the description and was wondering if it might be Varys or the guy who killed for Arya?
Not sure at this point.

3) So the Grejoys are undecided who should rule. Anyone else think this could get interesting?
A chance for Democracy. Don't think it will last long though.

4) What did you think of the way Greyjoy died? Death by fall? Could Melisandre have had a hand in this one?
Well I don't think it was Tyrion this time...Maybe Melisandre or maybe bad luck.

5) Anyone notice the change in houses for the Starks listed in the back of the book? Now they're listed with the other houses and aren't listed as one of the dominant ones anymore.
They aren't a powerful house anymore, mostly dead or presumed dead. No one is at Winterfell. i hadn't looked that far yet though.

6) I now get the expression Damphair - Damp hair. I kept thinking of dhampir. Why? I have no idea.
Reading Vampire Academy...I'm listening to audio version of this book, so dont have the visual.

7) What do you think of the drowning? At first I thought it was like baptism. I'm not thinking that anymore.
The devout actually drown and then are recusitated, other places seemed to just baptise. They are the drwoned men, so I guess it makes sense. That god is not for me though. Not keen on birthing shadow babies either. & gods might be a few too many. Hanging out under the trees sounds a bit better.

8) Did I miss something? What is a Kingsmoot? Where is a glossary when you need one?
I think it's a vote for a new king.

9) First thoughts of Prince Oberyn's daughters, Obara, Nymeria, Tyene?
I think we will see more of them.

10) Any predictions about what will happen to Prince Doran?
Not sure yet.

11) Anyone think the Lannisters will start dwindling in numbers in this book?
I think Stannis and the Tyrells will get stronger and the Lannisters will dwindle.

12) Thoughts on Cersei and the way she treated Jaime?
She is so self centred. I don't know if she will make it through this book.

13) Do you think Tyrion is long gone?
I think he and Varys are out of the city and long gone. I hope Tyrion makes it through this book.
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Questions for Prologue - Chapter 3
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1) This book is entitled 'A Feast For Crows'. Going in to this one what do you think the significance of the title could be?

Death but also the crow part make me think of Bran.

2) Any ideas as to who the alchemist was and what he'd use the key for? I was trying to rack my brain about the description and was wondering if it might be Varys or the guy who killed for Arya?

I am clueless.

3) So the Grejoys are undecided who should rule. Anyone else think this could get interesting?

Yep. Hopefully this will not cause a civil unrest.

4) What did you think of the way Greyjoy died? Death by fall? Could Melisandre have had a hand in this one?

I was wondering the same thing.

5) Anyone notice the change in houses for the Starks listed in the back of the book? Now they're listed with the other houses and aren't listed as one of the dominant ones anymore.

I will have to check that out but it does make sense with how things are currently.

6) I now get the expression Damphair - Damp hair. I kept thinking of dhampir. Why? I have no idea.

7) What do you think of the drowning? At first I thought it was like baptism. I'm not thinking that anymore.

CPR came to my mind.

8) Did I miss something? What is a Kingsmoot? Where is a glossary when you need one?

I think it is where they choose a king instead of the crown going to the next heir.

9) First thoughts of Prince Oberyn's daughters, Obara, Nymeria, Tyene?

They seem interesting and strong women.

10) Any predictions about what will happen to Prince Doran?

Nope.

11) Anyone think the Lannisters will start dwindling in numbers in this book?

I have that feeling.

12) Thoughts on Cersei and the way she treated Jaime?

The only word I could think of would not be appropriate to say.

13) Do you think Tyrion is long gone?

He better or he will not last long. He needs to go learn how to change his face like the guy who gave Arya the coin.

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Questions for Chapter 4 (Brienne) - Chapter 7 (Cersei) (view spoiler)[

14) We now know Brienne is looking for Sansa and she isn't the only one. Why do you think she left her "friends"? To get away from her competition so to speak or for another reason?
I don't think she trusts them. I think they would double cross her.

15) Do you think the rumors of Brienne killing Renly will ultimately lead to her demise?
It depends on who catches her.

16) Interesting only Jaime's teasing bothered Brienne. Could she perhaps have feelings for him? Could you imagine Cersei's reaction if Jaime were to pick Brienne over her. :)
I've thought that for a while. She had a crush on Renly when she served him too. I think she has come to respect Jaime, and a bit of attention from a hansome man might not have happened for her much before. I think Brienne is treating Jaime better than Cersei at the moment. I'd love to see her reaction f he did.

17) What did you think of the mouse transition between chapters 4 & 5? Wonder why Martin did that? Is there a hidden meaning? Could it represent spies or something?
Not sure. A bit of a quirky coincidence. Maybe he just thought it was funny and is having a chuckle at us trying to find a deeper meaning.

18) Samwell is hunting for information about the Others. Not much new information to be had. Just a reaffirming of what is there. Do you think that Jon should have sent Samwell away? Do you think he resents being voted to his current position? Interesting how many Stark relatives seemed to have taken the position as Wall commander.
I don't think he resents being voted in, it helped him make the decision he wanted to make anyway. I think he wants to keep Samwell safe, but mostly trusts him and truly believes he will make a good Maester.

19) Had to chuckle at the nick name "Sam the Seducer". Why do you think Gilly fled the way she did from Samwell? Why did she not like him calling her Lady?
She doesn't like anyone calling her Lady. It's not a wildling term and maybe she doesn't want to let go of her wildling heritage. The "Ladies" who live south of the wall are alot softer than the wildling women and Gilly may take offence.

20) Dragonsteel = Valyrian steel? Could this be a lost reason as to why a weapon forged of valyrian steel is so cherished and prized?
yep, I think so.

21) What is so awful about becoming a maester?
They are also the healers, so have to deal with the blood and guts of open wounds, which Sam wouldn't cope well with. It also sounds like it had been drummed into Sam from a young age that Maester was not appropriate for someone of his status.

22) What the heck?????? Why is everything associated with R'hllor so Creepy???? What were your thoughts on the city Arya is in? Why do they not like her being a Stark?
They didn't like her telling lies. I'm curious about what happens here.

23) Funeral was pretty uneventful. Thoughts on poor Lancel? Do you think her uncle knows about the affair?
Not sure.

24) Shocker!!! Ser Kevan was a surprise. Did you see his ultimatum coming?
Nope.

25) I don't think it's right to marry Margaret to Tommen.
She is twice his age and he is a young child. It is a bit creepy. I don't think he has much say in it though.

26) What did you think of Lady Merryweather, the only person who supposedly impressed Cersei?
Not sure what to think yet.

27) What did you think of Cersei's reaction to Lolly naming her child after Tywin?
I don't blame her for feeling that way, but I don't think she has the right to dictate who can use the name Tywin.

28) Do you think the issue of Master of Coin will come into play later?
Tyrion has disapeared, so someone will need to take over.

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Questions for Chapter 4 (Brienne) - Chapter 7 (Cersei)
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14) We now know Brienne is looking for Sansa and she isn't the only one. Why do you think she left her "friends"? To get away from her competition so to speak or for another reason?

I think the main reason is she is just a loner and I also think she is learning not to trust so easily.

15) Do you think the rumors of Brienne killing Renly will ultimately lead to her demise?

I am not sure if this is really an issue anymore but you never know.

16) Interesting only Jaime's teasing bothered Brienne. Could she perhaps have feelings for him? Could you imagine Cersei's reaction if Jaime were to pick Brienne over her. :)

Lol, that would be an interesting chapter. I do think she has had feeling for him. She seems to fall for guys like Jaime and Renly.

17) What did you think of the mouse transition between chapters 4 & 5? Wonder why Martin did that? Is there a hidden meaning? Could it represent spies or something?

I did not catch that and had to go back to see what you were talking about.

18) Samwell is hunting for information about the Others. Not much new information to be had. Just a reaffirming of what is there. Do you think that Jon should have sent Samwell away? Do you think he resents being voted to his current position? Interesting how many Stark relatives seemed to have taken the position as Wall commander.

Not sure if it matters if Samwell gets sent away but it is going to be an interesting story line.

19) Had to chuckle at the nick name "Sam the Seducer". Why do you think Gilly fled the way she did from Samwell? Why did she not like him calling her Lady?

I think she likes him and is not happy with how things have to be.

20) Dragonsteel = Valyrian steel? Could this be a lost reason as to why a weapon forged of valyrian steel is so cherished and prized?

Not sure.

21) What is so awful about becoming a maester?

22) What the heck?????? Why is everything associated with R'hllor so Creepy???? What were your thoughts on the city Arya is in? Why do they not like her being a Stark?

I did not catch on to the fact that they did not like her being a stark and will have to go reread that part now.

23) Funeral was pretty uneventful. Thoughts on poor Lancel? Do you think her uncle knows about the affair?

Yes.

24) Shocker!!! Ser Kevan was a surprise. Did you see his ultimatum coming?

Nope.

25) I don't think it's right to marry Margaret to Tommen.

I agree.

26) What did you think of Lady Merryweather, the only person who supposedly impressed Cersei?

not sure yet.

27) What did you think of Cersei's reaction to Lolly naming her child after Tywin?

Fitting.

28) Do you think the issue of Master of Coin will come into play later?

Yes. Mance does not seem like the kind of person you want to say no to too often.

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Questions for Chapters 8 (Jaime) - 11 (The Kracken's Daughter)
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28) Jaime is feeling guilty for letting Tyrion get away. He feels responsible for his father's death. What do you think Cersei would do if he confessed?
I think Cersei would have him executed for a traitor.

29) Do you think Varys is with Tyrion? Do you think he'll show his face at the castle again?
I don't think Vary's will show up at the castle again. He might be with Tyrion in disguise somewhere, but not sure where. When Brienne met the dwarf holy man, I wondered if that could be Tyrion in disguise.

30) Is it just me or is it a bit morbid the way they keep talking about Tywin's corpse smiling? Can we not go there? Ewww!
Doesn't seem too gross after reading Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers as a buddy read...

31) Sound like Jaime will believe what Tyrion said about Cersei sleeping around. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. He also seems to be catching on to the fact she only seeks him out when she needs something.
I think the twins relationship will break down. I don't think Jaime will let Cersei continue to use him.

32) What do you think of Cersei comparing herself to her father? Didn't she used to do this with Jaime?
She wants to feel powerful.

33) Seems like the painting of the shield is a big deal. I'm not sure why. A tree with leaves and fallings stars. Wonder what it means?
Sounds pretty. Not sure, but would like to hear the back story.

34) Seems like Brienne is on the right track to finding Sansa and finding out what happened. She now knows a third person was probably involved in spiriting her away.
I think Brienne will find her.

35) Are you worried for Sansa? So far it doesn't seem like Littlefinger is making any more advances on her. He is sharing enough information that she could probably get him hanged for treason.
I think Little finger wants Sansa to be his queen.

35) Who is the real man Petyr or Littlefinger?
Aspects of the same.

36) Is there still hope for little Robert? What do you think of Sansa taking care of him? I'm wondering if he has epilepsy?
I think epilepsy. I think he will die young. I like that Sansa is caring for him, he is family.

37) What do you think of Asha's wish to rule? Not a big surprise, but can she pull it off? Do you think she and Cersei may be spun from the same cloth?
Asha, Cersei, Dany, Marsella. Quite a few women aiming to rule. Asha and Dany are more warrior women. Cersei and Marsella are family. If Cersei gets behind Marsella's claim, she might have more influence.

38) Do you think Theon's truly dead? Sounded like he was a goner, but he's not the first person we've thought that of.
I thought he was, but who knows. I thought htere was no hope for Catelyn, and then she comes back from the dead.

A little side note: I heard a rumor that the people making the TV show are going to change either Asha's or Osha's name because the two sound too similar. What do you think of that?
They are quite similar names. There are enough characters to try to keep track of without making it even more confusing. They made Asha Greyjoy into Yara greyjoy. Easier for the TV watchers to follow, but for those of us who will read and watch, maybe more confusing.
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[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: "I'd love to see her reaction if he did."

I would like to see that as well.

[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: "Doesn't seem too gross after reading Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers as a buddy read..."

Lol, so true.

[Zonnah]

Questions for Chapters 8 (Jaime) - 11 (The Kracken's Daughter)
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28) Jaime is feeling guilty for letting Tyrion get away. He feels responsible for his father's death. What do you think Cersei would do if he confessed?

Rage.

29) Do you think Varys is with Tyrion? Do you think he'll show his face at the castle again?

I do think they are together.

30) Is it just me or is it a bit morbid the way they keep talking about Tywin's corpse smiling? Can we not go there? Ewww!

31) Sound like Jaime will believe what Tyrion said about Cersei sleeping around. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. He also seems to be catching on to the fact she only seeks him out when she needs something.

32) What do you think of Cersei comparing herself to her father? Didn't she used to do this with Jaime?

I don't remember.

33) Seems like the painting of the shield is a big deal. I'm not sure why. A tree with leaves and fallings stars. Wonder what it means?

34) Seems like Brienne is on the right track to finding Sansa and finding out what happened. She now knows a third person was probably involved in spiriting her away.

I was not so certain that this guys tale was true but we will find out.

35) Are you worried for Sansa? So far it doesn't seem like Littlefinger is making any more advances on her. He is sharing enough information that she could probably get him hanged for treason.

I do not like the situation at all and hope that Brienne finds her soon.

35) Who is the real man Petyr or Littlefinger?

Littlefinger. Every thing he does is plotted out for his benefit.

36) Is there still hope for little Robert? What do you think of Sansa taking care of him? I'm wondering if he has epilepsy?

Since his mom is out of the picture and if someone takes control of him, he could end up being a nice little boy.

37) What do you think of Asha's wish to rule? Not a big surprise, but can she pull it off? Do you think she and Cersei may be spun from the same cloth?

I think it is too soon to be able to compare them we don't know that much about Asha yet. It is curious how there is turning out to be a lot females taking control. It started out with mainly men and now the men seem to be dieing off.

38) Do you think Theon's truly dead? Sounded like he was a goner, but he's not the first person we've thought that of.

No idea.

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Questions for Chapter 12 (Cersei) through Chapter 15 (Samwell)
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39. I think Cersei is truly losing it. She’s going to be Nut Bunny 2. She has lost her son and father, and essentially she has lost the twin brother she was in love with. She is completely paranoid and (rightfully) trusts no one. She keeps flashing back to Maggy the Frog who told Cersei a more beautiful and younger queen would take her place and take all she holds dear. Cersei thinks this could be Margaery, but it could also be Myrcella. I hope it is Daenerys! Do you think Lady Merryweather is telling the truth about Senelle spying for the Tyrells? We know that Tyrion didn’t poison Joff, yet Lady Merryweather testified she saw Tyrion do it. Is someone paying her or is she just out to gain Cersei’s favor? (apologies if this is a rambling post.)
Not sure what to make of Lady Merryweather. I think she is manipulative and mixes lies with truth. I wonder which Queen will rise up over Cersei.

40. Do you think that the Tyrells were justified in wanting Tommen and Margaery to sleep together? I think it’s odd, given there’s no way they’re going to consummate the marriage. What purpose does this serve? Merely symbolic?
I think Tommen is still prepubescent, so wouldn't be able to get Margaery pregnant, but he may be able to take her maidenhead. I think it is mostly symbolic though.

41. Oh, looks like we may have a Hound sighting. It’s definitely possible that he still lives. I think Cersei is right to fear his return.
Arya didn't finish him off, so he might have been found and saved by the rebels. I don't think he will head back to Kings Landing in a hurry though.

42. The end of the chapter finds Cersei linking arms with Kettleblack and gleefully watching the tower burn. Do you think she intended this as a direct insult to Jaime? Also, does she seem crazy to you or is it just me?
Oh I think she is a bit mad. I think she did intend to insult Jaime.

43. In The Soiled Knight’s Chapter there appears to be the beginning of a war between those who want Myrcella as Queen and those who want Tommen. Which child do you believe has the greater claim to the throne? I was surprised Arys let his manhood rule his brain when he agreed to stand for Myrcella. His love for Arianne appears to be genuine, but I fear she is playing him like a Stradivarius. I don’t even want to try to speculate who in Westeros will stand for Tommen and who will stand for Myrcella.
King Robert had no claim to the throne, he just went out and took it. So, it depends on who gets the most support of these two - then Dany will just rock up and take it back anyway....?

44. OK, so it took a long time to sink in that Randyll Tarly is Sam’s father. I am a little slow. After witnessing how brutal he is when dispensing his justice, I have to say it must have been very difficult for Sam growing up, and also, how could Sam be related to this guy? Perhaps his mom had a honey on the side? Hey, it could happen!
I picked up that it was Sams father. He is a very hard man.

45. Brienne has proven herself capable of taking on the role of knight. Why is Tarly so against it? Do you suppose he is threatened by her?
I think he would prefer it if everyone just did what was expected of them and not think for themselves. Maybe Brienne was betrothed to one of his relatives.

46. I was really getting tired of Sam’s puking and Gilly’s sobbing. Finally we are told the babies were switched (way to go, Lisa Kay!!). I can completely sympathize with her now and I felt bad for being annoyed at her. So, Jon switched them so that Melisandre would not kill sacrifice Mance Raydar’s baby, but how can he condone any baby being killed sacrificed? Not sure I follow the logic in this one.
Maybe he hopes that when Melisandre finds out the babies have been switched, she wont kill Gilly's baby and the other one will be too far away.

47. Any speculation on how Randyll Tarly will receive Sam, Gilly and the baby? I hope Brienne befriends them somehow.
I keep hoping paths will cross for the characters too. Sam's father is a hard man, but I think he will accept Gilly.
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[Renee]

Zonnah wrote: " It is curious how there is turning out to be a lot females taking control. It started out with mainly men and now the men seem to be dieing off. "

Chicks rule

[Zonnah]

Questions for Chapter 12 (Cersei) through Chapter 15 (Samwell)
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39. I think Cersei is truly losing it. She’s going to be Nut Bunny 2. She has lost her son and father, and essentially she has lost the twin brother she was in love with. She is completely paranoid and (rightfully) trusts no one. She keeps flashing back to Maggy the Frog who told Cersei a more beautiful and younger queen would take her place and take all she holds dear. Cersei thinks this could be Margaery, but it could also be Myrcella. I hope it is Daenerys! Do you think Lady Merryweather is telling the truth about Senelle spying for the Tyrells? We know that Tyrion didn’t poison Joff, yet Lady Merryweather testified she saw Tyrion do it. Is someone paying her or is she just out to gain Cersei’s favor? (apologies if this is a rambling post.)

Trust no one, lol. I do feel Merryweather is playing her for some reason though.

40. Do you think that the Tyrells were justified in wanting Tommen and Margaery to sleep together? I think it’s odd, given there’s no way they’re going to consummate the marriage. What purpose does this serve? Merely symbolic?

I think they just are trying to make the marriage secure. If they don't consummate then it can be broken later.

41. Oh, looks like we may have a Hound sighting. It’s definitely possible that he still lives. I think Cersei is right to fear his return.

I hope he is still alive. I actually like him.

42. The end of the chapter finds Cersei linking arms with Kettleblack and gleefully watching the tower burn. Do you think she intended this as a direct insult to Jaime? Also, does she seem crazy to you or is it just me?

It was an insult and yes she is getting crazy.

43. In The Soiled Knight’s Chapter there appears to be the beginning of a war between those who want Myrcella as Queen and those who want Tommen. Which child do you believe has the greater claim to the throne? I was surprised Arys let his manhood rule his brain when he agreed to stand for Myrcella. His love for Arianne appears to be genuine, but I fear she is playing him like a Stradivarius. I don’t even want to try to speculate who in Westeros will stand for Tommen and who will stand for Myrcella.

It is hard to say who has the greater claim, both lands have different rules.

I know speculating never seems to work with these books. I think that is one of the reasons why I think Martin is a good writer.

44. OK, so it took a long time to sink in that Randyll Tarly is Sam’s father. I am a little slow. After witnessing how brutal he is when dispensing his justice, I have to say it must have been very difficult for Sam growing up, and also, how could Sam be related to this guy? Perhaps his mom had a honey on the side? Hey, it could happen!

Glad I was not the only one to be a little slow, lol.

45. Brienne has proven herself capable of taking on the role of knight. Why is Tarly so against it? Do you suppose he is threatened by her?

Not sure.

46. I was really getting tired of Sam’s puking and Gilly’s sobbing. Finally we are told the babies were switched (way to go, Lisa Kay!!). I can completely sympathize with her now and I felt bad for being annoyed at her. So, Jon switched them so that Melisandre would not kill sacrifice Mance Raydar’s baby, but how can he condone any baby being killed sacrificed? Not sure I follow the logic in this one.

I figured out the switch the second they said she would cry when she nursed the baby. As far as the other child I think Jon will protect it. He does not seem like a baby killer.

47. Any speculation on how Randyll Tarly will receive Sam, Gilly and the baby? I hope Brienne befriends them somehow.

I think it will not be a happy reunion and am not even sure he will take on Gilly and the baby.

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[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: "when Melisandre finds out the babies have been switched, she wont kill Gilly's baby and the other one will be too far away."

I was thinking the same thing.

[Renee]

Questions for Chapters 16 (Jaime) - 19 (The Drowned Man)
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48. Ser Kevan doesn’t appear to know of the discord between Cersei and Jaime; do you think knowing that would make a difference to him in his attitude toward Jaime? Is there a liaison in the making there?
No. I think the fact that they were incestuos ever means that he doesn't respect either of them. Cersei might try anything if she thinks it will give her an advantage.

49. Jaime doubts Tyrion’s words about Lancel and Cersei but not about his killing King Joffrey. Is that frustrating or what?
But despite that, he still loves Cersei and cared enough for Tyrion to help him escape.

50. Why would Bronn, now Ser Bronn of the Blackwater, have Lollys’s child named Tyrion? Was this his smartest move, considering? Does he still have some loyalty toward Tyrion, or is he just thumbing his nose at Cersei?
Not a clever move, Cersei has it in for him now. I think he did respect Tyrion and truly liked the name for that, but I think he was also trying to get back at Cersei for being rude about using Tywin. I was half expecting the child to be named Jaime, because that would annoy Cersei even more.

51. What is with having the large skull of Ser Gregor cleaned by beetles before it is presented to Prince Doran in recompense for the murders of his sister, Elia (wife of Prince Rhaegar Targaryen), her child Prince Aegon, and Prince Oberyn Martell, the Red Viper? To obscure any dissimilarity? If the leeches that were put to Ser Gregor died, why were the beetles able to eat his flesh?
The beetles would eat all the stinky bits so it would just be bone. A bit nicer to present, but harder to tell who it is. Maybe the flesh doesn't carry as much poison as the blood, so the beetles didn't consume as much.

52. Which Queen will Taena Merryweather ultimately side with: Cersei or Margaery? Why would Cersei let her know about her scheming with Ser Osney Kettleblack after Jamie warned her she is Margaery’s spy?
I think she's hedging her bets, and will play both of them.

53. What was Jaime trying to tell Loras in that history lesson?
I forget that bit, must have been distracted.

54. Where do I begin with Cersei? I guess I’ll follow Sandy’s suit, and go with more rambling questions about her: Which of her decisions will bring her downfall? Selecting Lord Qyburn for (her) small council and thinking him oh so clever? Appointing Ser Harys Swyft as (her) “hostage” Hand? Overindulging in drink, especially at small council meetings? Underestimating Jaime’s ability and making fun of him? Ignoring the “sparrows” invading King’s Landing? Thinking one High Septon will serve as well as the other? Not becoming involved in the politics of the Vale? Believing House Bolton would settle for half of the north after being promised the whole? Not paying the Iron Bank or the Faith of the Seven their due? Giving command of the royal navy to Aurane Waters, a man of questionable background and not exactly known for his fidelity? Counting on Lord Walder Frey’s death before it happens, or that his family will fight among themselves once he is gone? Believing a White Harbor alliance can be so easily achieved? Planning to assassinate Jon Snow by way of Ser Osney Kettleblack? Or ignoring the rumor of dragons?
Yes....So many decisions that could go pear shaped. I've almost given up speculating and just keep reading. I keep wondering what will come first, the dragons or the white walkers.

55. You impression of Victarion? Would he have made a good king? Was he justified in beating his wife to death? Should he have thrown his support behind his niece, Asha? Can he forgive his brother, the Crow’s Eye, Euron; accept and honor him as the king to sit in the Seastone Chair?
He will need to back Euron or be done for treason.

56. What did you think of the kingsmoot? I actually liked Asha’s speech and she almost swayed me to her side. Alas, her nuncle, the Crow’s Eye, Euron, won the day. Think there will be dissention in the ranks?
Euron has pretty big bold plans. I would rather go for Asha's more peaceful approach. World domination always seems like a villians goal.
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[Zonnah]

Questions for Chapters 16 (Jaime) - 19 (The Drowned Man)
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48. Ser Kevan doesn’t appear to know of the discord between Cersei and Jaime; do you think knowing that would make a difference to him in his attitude toward Jaime? Is there a liaison in the making there?

I don't think it would change anything. The deed was done and can't be undone.

49. Jaime doubts Tyrion’s words about Lancel and Cersei but not about his killing King Joffrey. Is that frustrating or what?

Very.

50. Why would Bronn, now Ser Bronn of the Blackwater, have Lollys’s child named Tyrion? Was this his smartest move, considering? Does he still have some loyalty toward Tyrion, or is he just thumbing his nose at Cersei?

I think both.

51. What is with having the large skull of Ser Gregor cleaned by beetles before it is presented to Prince Doran in recompense for the murders of his sister, Elia (wife of Prince Rhaegar Targaryen), her child Prince Aegon, and Prince Oberyn Martell, the Red Viper? To obscure any dissimilarity? If the leeches that were put to Ser Gregor died, why were the beetles able to eat his flesh?

I was wondering the same thing. Either it is not his skull or they want it pretty when they give it to them. Knowing how Martin is who knows.

52. Which Queen will Taena Merryweather ultimately side with: Cersei or Margaery? Why would Cersei let her know about her scheming with Ser Osney Kettleblack after Jamie warned her she is Margaery’s spy?

I don't know.

53. What was Jaime trying to tell Loras in that history lesson?

Maybe that Loras really did not know all he should and is not as wise as he thinks he is.

54. Where do I begin with Cersei? I guess I’ll follow Sandy’s suit, and go with more rambling questions about her: Which of her decisions will bring her downfall? Selecting Lord Qyburn for (her) small council and thinking him oh so clever? Appointing Ser Harys Swyft as (her) “hostage” Hand? Overindulging in drink, especially at small council meetings? Underestimating Jaime’s ability and making fun of him? Ignoring the “sparrows” invading King’s Landing? Thinking one High Septon will serve as well as the other? Not becoming involved in the politics of the Vale? Believing House Bolton would settle for half of the north after being promised the whole? Not paying the Iron Bank or the Faith of the Seven their due? Giving command of the royal navy to Aurane Waters, a man of questionable background and not exactly known for his fidelity? Counting on Lord Walder Frey’s death before it happens, or that his family will fight among themselves once he is gone? Believing a White Harbor alliance can be so easily achieved? Planning to assassinate Jon Snow by way of Ser Osney Kettleblack? Or ignoring the rumor of dragons?

Lol, she is not thinking clearly is she. I have a feeling the Iron Bank thing is going to bite her in the but.

55. You impression of Victarion? Would he have made a good king? Was he justified in beating his wife to death? Should he have thrown his support behind his niece, Asha? Can he forgive his brother, the Crow’s Eye, Euron; accept and honor him as the king to sit in the Seastone Chair?

I was hoping Asha would become queen. It is going to be interesting seeing how Euron and Dany mingle.

56. What did you think of the kingsmoot? I actually liked Asha’s speech and she almost swayed me to her side. Alas, her nuncle, the Crow’s Eye, Euron, won the day. Think there will be dissention in the ranks?

I have no idea.

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[Lisa Kay]

I enjoyed your answers to Chapters 16-19, ladies. I haven't read all the answers, but I did this last section. What a tangled web we weave...

[Renee]

Questions for Chapters 20 (Brienne) - 23 (Alayne)
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57. Okay, I’ll admit confusion. Why did Dick Crabb (Nimble Dick) take Brienne to Whispers, the ruined castle on Crackclaw Point, if he knew that he had conned Shagwell, Timeon and Pyg by selling them a map to that local? Wouldn’t he have expected their wrath? Or did Dick really believe Shagwell was that much of a fool – and inept to boot? He couldn’t have expected them to actually have found smugglers in a cove that hasn’t been active for over 30 years. I don’t get it.
I thought he was taking Brienne to meet one of them. I think he hoped that she would pay him then he could bribe his way out and still end up with more money. Not a clever move to cross those three though, and didn't work out for him.

58. Were you proud of Podrick or what? Throwing stones at Shagwell – ha! I’m glad he is with Brienne. Oh, well. Might as well not get too attached. If I like him, he won’t last too much longer.
Go Podrick! It does get a bit that way, no characters are safe.


59. The BIG questions are:
a) What will happen to Arianne now? (Assuming Areo Hotah is in her father’s employ. As captain of Doran Martell's guards, he arrested the Sand Snakes on his orders…so it stands to reason he remains his loyal servant despite any fondness he has for the "little princess" – as he affectionately calls Arianne.)
Her father will still try to marry her off to some old man.

b) Who was it that told of her plans? Was he/she present at the ambush?
I don't know who would have told.

c) Where is Arianne younger brother, Quentyn? (Not to be confused with disgraced former maester Qyburn, in Cersei’s employ.)
Not sure, I thought he was just at home.

d) What is the extent of injury to Princess Myrcella? Is she really Princess Myrcella or is she Rosamund?
I didn't think she was injured. I think it is Myrcella who was captured and Rosamund with fake chicken pox.
Not sure how long she will remain unharmed though.

60. What do you think of the “kindly man”? Does he have Arya’s best interests at heart? He keeps asking who she is; when is she going to ask who he is?
He is the one who could train her. The questions are part of discovering if she is suitable and ready. Ayra needs to be able to surrender hwe whole self and her identity.

61. Did you think for even a second that Arya would toss Needle into the canal’s water?
I thought she would decide this path is not for her and move on. If she is serious, then she would need to surrender needle. Looks like she is in for some intense training, once she has mastered Bravossi.

62. Okay, confused again. I didn’t understand the story about the firewyrms, nor the part about: “Will I be like her?” “No,” he said, “not unless you wish it. It is the poisons that have made her as you see her.” What does emptying a stone flagon into the water of the black pool have to do with anything?
I thought the black pool was full of poison and people come to the temple to drink the poison when they are ready to die.

63. Arya, as Cat, is now to be more than just an acolyte. Will she learn not only how to detect lies, but change her face while in the House of Black and White in Braavos? Will she have to take poisons to do so? Pretty handy skills, those. Whatever will she do with them?
Be a faceless woman.

64. What is going to happen when “Alayne” runs out of hair dye?
I think Littlefinger will be able to get more.

65. "Gold and boys and promises…" Just what are Littlefinger's “promises”? Does this mean Littlefinger might swing both ways – if it benefits his plans? Or, since House Corbray of Heart’s Home is a noble – if poor – house did he conspire with Littlefinger mainly for gold?
I took it as gold and boys and promises. I think he bargained for money and made deals that would benefit both of them. Littlefinger is a man not a boy so I don't think he threw himself into the deal, but I think he will arrange for a young boy gigilo.
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[Zonnah]

Questions for Chapters 20 (Brienne) - 23 (Alayne)
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57. Okay, I’ll admit confusion. Why did Dick Crabb (Nimble Dick) take Brienne to Whispers, the ruined castle on Crackclaw Point, if he knew that he had conned Shagwell, Timeon and Pyg by selling them a map to that local? Wouldn’t he have expected their wrath? Or did Dick really believe Shagwell was that much of a fool – and inept to boot? He couldn’t have expected them to actually have found smugglers in a cove that hasn’t been active for over 30 years. I don’t get it.

My guess he he planned on robbing Brienne before he got there.

58. Were you proud of Podrick or what? Throwing stones at Shagwell – ha! I’m glad he is with Brienne. Oh, well. Might as well not get too attached. If I like him, he won’t last too much longer.

Yep, I was proud of him. I am glad he is with Brienne as well, she needs at least one friend.

59. The BIG questions are:a) What will happen to Arianne now? (Assuming Areo Hotah is in her father’s employ. As captain of Doran Martell's guards, he arrested the Sand Snakes on his orders…so it stands to reason he remains his loyal servant despite any fondness he has for the "little princess" – as he affectionately calls Arianne.) Maybe he will lock her up in the tower with the other girls.
b) Who was it that told of her plans? Was he/she present at the ambush? Not sure.

c) Where is Arianne younger brother, Quentyn? (Not to be confused with disgraced former maester Qyburn, in Cersei’s employ.) No idea.

d) What is the extent of injury to Princess Myrcella? Is she really Princess Myrcella or is she Rosamund? Who is Rosamund? Also, I was wondering what happened to her since Martin has not told us yet.60. What do you think of the “kindly man”? Does he have Arya’s best interests at heart? He keeps asking who she is; when is she going to ask who he is?

I think he is just doing his job and making sure she really wants to be there.

61. Did you think for even a second that Arya would toss Needle into the canal’s water?

No.

62. Okay, confused again. I didn’t understand the story about the firewyrms, nor the part about: “Will I be like her?” “No,” he said, “not unless you wish it. It is the poisons that have made her as you see her.” What does emptying a stone flagon into the water of the black pool have to do with anything?

I was confused as well.

63. Arya, as Cat, is now to be more than just an acolyte. Will she learn not only how to detect lies, but change her face while in the House of Black and White in Braavos? Will she have to take poisons to do so? Pretty handy skills, those. Whatever will she do with them?

I think that is what she wants to learn so yes. She will be getting revenge most likely.

64. What is going to happen when “Alayne” runs out of hair dye?

Wish I knew.

65. "Gold and boys and promises…" Just what are Littlefinger's “promises”? Does this mean Littlefinger might swing both ways – if it benefits his plans? Or, since House Corbray of Heart’s Home is a noble – if poor – house did he conspire with Littlefinger mainly for gold?

Maybe Lordship or could be a marriage to Sansa. I don't think Littlefinger would promise himself being that he is not a boy.

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[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: "I keep wondering what will come first, the dragons or the white walkers."

Or will they come at the same time and be the ultimate war to end the book?

[Renee]

Chapter 24(Cersei) - Chapter 25 (Brienne)
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66) Margaery is definitely having fun with Cersei. Do you think Cersei is going do lose it soon?
They are both power hungry and quite clever. I think Cersei will lose her patience and have a little hissy fit, and I think that will be her undoing. She might get outmanipulated be Margaery

67) If Cerei's daughter ends up scarred from her injury to the face, do you think she'll treat her differently?
She always treated Tyrion differently because of how he looked, she treats Jaime differently now. I wouldn't be surprised if she treats her daughter differently if she is "damaged". I think she is more likely to support her son's claim to the throne anyway as Cersei will have more control over him because he is much younger and is still with her.

68) I think the Iron Bank will retaliate in some way, but I don't know how. Anyone else thing so?
Yep.

69) I also think Cersei is going down. Soon. Do you think Martin's done almost all he could with her?
I get the feeling her end is near, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it plays out, there are so many possibilities....

70) Cersei practically confessed that Robert isn't her sons father when she said jousting was in Tommen's father's blood.
And Margaery picked up on it. I think that was a big mistake for Cersei.

71) Do you think Margaery is as dangerous as the Queen of thorns?
Looking sweet and innocent can be the best was to hide danger. The Tyrells are just Lannisters of a different colour.

72) Dear goodness poor Sennelle. Cersei is awful! Is Qyburn the one that lost his chain because he liked to slice up live people all in the name of study?
Can't remember.

73) Thoughts about Rhaeger's rejection?
That hurt Cersei. She said that he rejected her marriage offer and chose the wolf girl. Does that mean Raegar did marry Eddards sister?

74) Interesting how when we looked at Jaime's thoughts we ended up liking him. This is not the case with Cersei. What do you think would be a fitting demise for Cersei? Do you think Tommen will survive till the end of the series? The end of the book?
Tommen is still so young and doesn't seem corupted yet, but I don't think he is vital to the plot. i wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it to the end. I think the song of ice and fire is the fight between the icy white walkers and the firey dragons, who else is left in the mix up to George R R Martin's whim, I don't think he has even decided yet, I think he makes up alot of it as he goes, with a basic plot outline.

75) Now Cersei is going after Bronn and puppeteers. She's a crazy nut bunny hopping down the nut bunny trail.
LOL

76) Thoughts on Ser Hyle? I can't figure out if he likes Brienne or not. Could that whole contest have been a ruse to see if she liked men at all? Boost his ego because she turned him down or does he just like playing with her?
Not sure what to make of him. Isn't he basically a glorified sellsword now.

77) Do you believe the Hound survived? I don't. If it's not him who could be masquerading as him?
If Catelyn is back to life, why not the hound?

78) Do you think that Arya's wolf is amassing a force for her? Why have the two been separated for so long?
I think it is Nymeria leading the giant wolf pack. When the winter comes the pack survives and the lone wolf dies, maybe it is just instinct. Ayra isn't ready to lead a wolf pack yet anyway, maybe her faceless woman training might get her closer.

79) Any thoughts about Meribald?
Not sure.
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[Renee]

Questions for Chapters 26 (Samwell) – 27 (Jaime)
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80. Why is Maester Aemon so adamant about knowing more about the dragons? Is this just senile curiosity? Or does he know or seek something more?
He is a Targarean, he would be drawn to the dragons. I think he might know more - remember stories about the white walkers and the dragons, but not want to give people too much hope if the dragons aren't real. Seeking dragons is what killed many of his family.

81. When she first spoke up, did you suspect (or hope) “the girl” – Cat – outside the Cattery brothel was Arya?
It didn't click for me until she said call me Cat.

82. Dareon! Another singer who is less than admirable. Were you more surprised he gave up the Black or that Samwell hit him? What will be his fate now? Not surprised he gave it up. No one is likely to hunt him down in Bravos and he could have a much happier life there. Proud of Samwell for standing up for what he believes though, good to see he is growing.

83. Eek! All I could think of when Samwell landed in that icky canal water was in that poison the Waif had been pouring in there. You?
Hadn't thought of the poison. I was worried he couldn't swim and wondered who would help him.

84. Xhondo, from the Summer Islands, saved Samwell and knows of dragons. Do you think his information will be correct? Yea or nay, what will Maester Aemon do with it?
I think he will know, not sure what Maester Aemon will do.

85. Okay, Jaime is pretty angry with Cersei and appears to become more and more disgusted with her, but he still lusts after her. Will that lust ever fade?
Only if he gets away from her.

86. What do you think of Jaime’s practicing his sword wielding with Ser Ilyn? It doesn’t sound as if they have any leather guards on them. I keep thinking Jaime could lose his other hand. Or am I mistaken? Think Jaime will ever become as proficient?
I think they were using blunt practice blades. I think he will get better with practice, but it will be a long process.


87. Was Varys the mastermind of the riot? Is Tyrek now his captor or co-conspirator? Or was he languishing somewhere forgotten?
No idea, though it wouldn't surprise me if Varys or Littlefinger were behind so many things that have happened.

88. Ser Bonifer Hasty (who once sided with King Renly & then King Stannis, but was forgiven by King Joffery) is now Castellan of Harrenhal. What do you think of him? The pendulum has swung the other way it seems, as he is pretty pious; are the people there any better off? What will Petyr Baelish do about it, or will he even care?
I don't think Littlefinger cares what happens to Harrenhall, he just wanted the title so he could marry Lyssam and get the Eyrie. He thinks Harrenhall is cursed too and doesn't ever want to go there.


89. Were you surprised that Jaime took offence at his comments and punched Red Ronnet? For a man who wouldn’t call Brienne by her name, he sure changed his tune. Are his feelings running deeper for her than he will admit, or is it just admiration?
I think he is in denial, but I think his feelings do run deeper.
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Chapter 24(Cersei) - Chapter 25 (Brienne)
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66) Margaery is definitely having fun with Cersei. Do you think Cersei is going do lose it soon?

I think she will at least make a mistake.

67) If Cerei's daughter ends up scarred from her injury to the face, do you think she'll treat her differently?

At this point I don't think she thinks about her daughter much.

68) I think the Iron Bank will retaliate in some way, but I don't know how. Anyone else thing so?

Yes.

69) I also think Cersei is going down. Soon. Do you think Martin's done almost all he could with her?

No idea.

70) Cersei practically confessed that Robert isn't her sons father when she said jousting was in Tommen's father's blood.

71) Do you think Margaery is as dangerous as the Queen of thorns?

It is looking like she is playing the game of thrones and she is pretty sneaky.

72) Dear goodness poor Sennelle. Cersei is awful! Is Qyburn the one that lost his chain because he liked to slice up live people all in the name of study?

I think so.

73) Thoughts about Rhaeger's rejection?

Interesting but no big thoughts about it.

74) Interesting how when we looked at Jaime's thoughts we ended up liking him. This is not the case with Cersei. What do you think would be a fitting demise for Cersei? Do you think Tommen will survive till the end of the series? The end of the book?

I think Cersei's demise will be her underestimating her enemy's. He seems pretty innocent so far and hope he will make it.

This whole marriage with Margaery and Tommen is really disturbing to me and makes me think of the movie 'The Graduate'. Mainly the older woman seducing the boy.

75) Now Cersei is going after Bronn and puppeteers. She's a crazy nut bunny hopping down the nut bunny trail.

76) Thoughts on Ser Hyle? I can't figure out if he likes Brienne or not. Could that whole contest have been a ruse to see if she liked men at all? Boost his ego because she turned him down or does he just like playing with her?

I think he just likes to play games with her.

77) Do you believe the Hound survived? I don't. If it's not him who could be masquerading as him?

I think he may have survived.

78) Do you think that Arya's wolf is amassing a force for her? Why have the two been separated for so long?

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe Bran is going to be able to control Arya's wolf as well.

79) Any thoughts about Meribald?

Not yet, too soon.

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Questions for Chapters 26 (Samwell) – 27 (Jaime)
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80. Why is Maester Aemon so adamant about knowing more about the dragons? Is this just senile curiosity? Or does he know or seek something more?

I think he knows more then he is saying.

81. When she first spoke up, did you suspect (or hope) “the girl” – Cat – outside the Cattery brothel was Arya?

Yes. Martin likes to have his characters cross paths.

82. Dareon! Another singer who is less than admirable. Were you more surprised he gave up the Black or that Samwell hit him? What will be his fate now?

I was surprised and happy that Sam hit him :)

83. Eek! All I could think of when Samwell landed in that icky canal water was in that poison the Waif had been pouring in there. You?

No.

84. Xhondo, from the Summer Islands, saved Samwell and knows of dragons. Do you think his information will be correct? Yea or nay, what will Maester Aemon do with it?

yes. I think Aemon will be dead by the time Sam gets back.

85. Okay, Jaime is pretty angry with Cersei and appears to become more and more disgusted with her, but he still lusts after her. Will that lust ever fade?

In time maybe.

86. What do you think of Jaime’s practicing his sword wielding with Ser Ilyn? It doesn’t sound as if they have any leather guards on them. I keep thinking Jaime could lose his other hand. Or am I mistaken? Think Jaime will ever become as proficient?

I think it is good he keeps practicing. I think he will get proficient but never as good as he was.

87. Was Varys the mastermind of the riot? Is Tyrek now his captor or co-conspirator? Or was he languishing somewhere forgotten?

It seems to be looking that way.

88. Ser Bonifer Hasty (who once sided with King Renly & then King Stannis, but was forgiven by King Joffery) is now Castellan of Harrenhal. What do you think of him? The pendulum has swung the other way it seems, as he is pretty pious; are the people there any better off? What will Petyr Baelish do about it, or will he even care?

I am thinking it will end badly. I don't think Petyr actually wants Harrenhal. I think it was just a means to an end.

89. Were you surprised that Jaime took offence at his comments and punched Red Ronnet? For a man who wouldn’t call Brienne by her name, he sure changed his tune. Are his feelings running deeper for her than he will admit, or is it just admiration?

I think it is both. The same way she feels about him.

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[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: "The Tyrells are just Lannisters of a different colour."

I have never been sure about them.

[Renee]

Questions for Chapters 28 (Cersei) – 29 (The Reaver)
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90) Thoughts on the high Septon? Does he strike you as not quite right in the head or crazy like a fox?
Don't think he like Cersei, so he can't be too mad!

91) Someone's sister jailed for being to beautiful? Did anyone wonder if Cersei would be next?
I don't think that will be her fate.

92) When will Martin stop punishing us with more Cersei? These are my least favorite chapters. We get she doesn't like Tyrion. Geesh!
Maybe it will be something to do with Tyrion that will bring her down.

93) What did you think of the High Septon saying he'd bless Tommen?
For the right price. Bribery and corruption not uncommon with the Septons.

94) Cersei's uncovered some of the pieces of Jeoffry's death, but has parts wrong. What do you think she'll do?
Something rash, Maybe this will be her downfall.

95)"Your Grace laughs so prettily." Lady Margaery gave her a quizzical smile. "Might we share the jest?"
"You will," the queen said. "I promise you , you will." - Is this a threat?
Yes. But I think Margaery will be doing the laughing.
Die Cersei, Die. Last time I made that curse on Joffery it worked.....

96) So Euron wants to wed Dany. Thoughts?
He wants to wed her for heirs, but I think she is cursed barren, so that won't work out well. I don't think she would want to marry him, even for the throne. But she might if really can control her dragons with the horn.

97) Now we have naked ladies serving food? I guess you could see something like this coming.
Well we haven't had much nudity for a while.

98) Victorian seems a better man than Euron. Do you prefer either over the other at this point and, if so, why?
Euron is a manipulator. i don't like him. But for the sort of strenght and brutality that the ironborn look up to, he suits them for a king.

99) Does Euron remind you of Asha in male form? How do you pronounce Euron? I keep thinking like Urine. Very distracting.
I think he is meaner than Asha.

100) Thoughts on Euron stealing Victarion's men?
The strong take what they want, if you cant defend your things, you shouldn't have them. That's the the ironborn way. I wouldn't want to live there though.

101) Anyone besides myself and Victarion wish Euron had decided to pull a Peter Pan and attempt to fly out the window?
I don't like him, but I think his story will be an interesting one. Besides, with Joffrey dead and I think Cersei won't be too far away, I'll need someone else to hate.
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Questions Chapter 30 (Jaime) - Chapter 32 (Cersei)
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102) Jaime now knows the truth about Cersei. Still do not know the outcome of his knowledge.
Ready to read the next chapter to see. I think he'll go his own way and finally break away from her.

103) We know Cersei probably does lover her brother in the only way she could, that being after herself.
Showing she has no concept of the word.
She is very power hungry and self centred.

104) We found out a bit about Robert's and Cersei's marriage, but not exactly what he did to her. It's just hinted at. I think this is a first for Martin. He's usually quite quick about giving details.
Sounds like Cersei just wanted to be queen, so married whoever was in power....that sounds a bit familiar....Margaery.
Cersei didn't love Robert and didn't want to have children by him, so used her hands and mouth as often as she could.

105) Lancel seems to have lost it. What do you think of his confessing his sins to the Septon?
I think the Septon will keep it to himself.

106) Sounds like the Hound did indeed die.
I'm glad, too much ressurection would have been too far fetched.

107) I'm sick of Cersei flashbacks. Gah! I can't dislike her more.
Die Cersei, Die....

108) Do you think it's okay for Brienne to sleep alone? I worry about her.
She should be safe there though.

109) What do you think of the Elder brother? Who is he?
A fallen knight, but not sure who. Who would also have healing powers?

110) Cersei is a mad queen literally and figuratively. She can't see truth because she's so paranoid. I don't think she'll have long to live. Do I sound like a broken record.
Do I sound like a broken record too? Die Cersie, Die!

111) What do you think of Ser Loras' latest quest? Is it a suicide mission?
It keeps Cersei happy. I can't see it being an easy win for Ser Loras though.

112) She made a big enemy of Bronn. Can't wait to see how he'll handle it.
?Die Cersei, Die?

113) Another person given to Qyborn. Gah! Cersei is heartless.
Got her out of the way though.

Then a rude bit near the end....wasn't expecting that....
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[Zonnah]

Questions for Chapters 28 (Cersei) – 29 (The Reaver)
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90) Thoughts on the high Septon? Does he strike you as not quite right in the head or crazy like a fox?

At the least he is humbling the septons.

91) Someone's sister jailed for being to beautiful? Did anyone wonder if Cersei would be next?

No. She is getting old. All the tightening of the corset strings and dresses tight in the middle is proof of that.

92) When will Martin stop punishing us with more Cersei? These are my least favorite chapters. We get she doesn't like Tyrion. Geesh!

Agree. I am really missing not hearing about Bran and Jon in this book. This is starting to be my least favorite so far in the series.

93) What did you think of the High Septon saying he'd bless Tommen?

She did not want to pay for the blessing but in the end she did, just not with gold.

94) Cersei's uncovered some of the pieces of Jeoffry's death, but has parts wrong. What do you think she'll do?

Be crazy as ever.

95)"Your Grace laughs so prettily." Lady Margaery gave her a quizzical smile. "Might we share the jest?"
"You will," the queen said. "I promise you , you will." - Is this a threat?

Yes. She is going to start rumors that she sleeps with her brother. At least that is my guess.

96) So Euron wants to wed Dany. Thoughts?

I saw this coming. I am also wondering is she is going to marry both brothers?

97) Now we have naked ladies serving food? I guess you could see something like this coming.

98) Victorian seems a better man than Euron. Do you prefer either over the other at this point and, if so, why?

Don't really like Euron just because he seems mean. But not a big fan of Victorian just because he is serving Euron and did not run like Asha.

99) Does Euron remind you of Asha in male form? How do you pronounce Euron? I keep thinking like Urine. Very distracting.

I was pronouncing it like your-on.

100) Thoughts on Euron stealing Victarion's men?

Not really.

101) Anyone besides myself and Victarion wish Euron had decided to pull a Peter Pan and attempt to fly out the window?

I was not thinking that but when I hear mention of crows eye I think of the three eyed crow and bran, especially when he started talking about dreaming of flying.

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Questions Chapter 30 (Jaime) - Chapter 32 (Cersei)
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102) Jaime now knows the truth about Cersei. Still do not know the outcome of his knowledge.

103) We know Cersei probably does lover her brother in the only way she could, that being after herself.
Showing she has no concept of the word.

104) We found out a bit about Robert's and Cersei's marriage, but not exactly what he did to her. It's just hinted at. I think this is a first for Martin. He's usually quite quick about giving details.

105) Lancel seems to have lost it. What do you think of his confessing his sins to the Septon?

I think it is going to cause problems. The septon will have power over Cersei and he now has a built in army.

106) Sounds like the Hound did indeed die.

107) I'm sick of Cersei flashbacks. Gah! I can't dislike her more.

108) Do you think it's okay for Brienne to sleep alone? I worry about her.

I think she will be safe there. Crosses fingers.

109) What do you think of the Elder brother? Who is he?

Not sure.

110) Cersei is a mad queen literally and figuratively. She can't see truth because she's so paranoid. I don't think she'll have long to live. Do I sound like a broken record.

111) What do you think of Ser Loras' latest quest? Is it a suicide mission?

No.

112) She made a big enemy of Bronn. Can't wait to see how he'll handle it.

113) Another person given to Qyborn. Gah! Cersei is heartless.

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Chapter 33 (Jaime) - Chapter 35 (Samwell)
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114) We finally know what happened to Edmund. I feel bad for his pregnant wife. What kind of father or was it grandfather would do that to his granddaughter or daughter? Plus, the whole noose around the neck????

115) Now I guess everyone will think twice before breaking an engagement to a Frey. Do you think anything will happen to Lancel?

No.

116) I like Jaime's aunt a whole lot. I would like to see more of her.

117) A very different version of Lysa was presented to us. Thoughts?

My thoughts are still the same because we know that even back then she was wanting littlefinger.

118) Arya. Dear Goodness! She's blind. I hope it's temporary.

Thats my guess as well.

119) Do you think this is how Varys and the lot collect information? Use children like Arya to uncover secrets?

I am confused by this question. Was Varys part of this religion?

120) Surprised Gilly and Samwell did the deed?

No.

121) He really didn't have a choice but to stay with Gilly. What are your thoughts about this?

I think by how things are playing out with the world so far, he should stay with Gilly.

122) All the talk of dragons is interesting. Did Aemon wanted him to tell them they'd gotten the prophecy wrong. A dragon is sexless. Made me wonder how you make baby dragons, but I digress. So there was a prophecy about the comet. Did we know that already? I don't recall hearing of one.

I don't think we ever found out what that red comet was about.

123) I think I forgot to mention in the chapter with Victarion and Euron, but what do you make of the story of the egg thrown into the sea by Euron?

Makes me think there are more eggs out there then they realize. They seem to be popping up a lot.

124) I wonder where will Samwell end up?

Either at his fathers with Gilly or at old town not sure. For a wild card maybe he is going to where the dragons are.

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Lisa Kay's Questions for Chapters 36 (Cersei) – 37 (Brienne)
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125. Cersei had to listen to what happened to Ser Loras TWICE? In detail? Comments. Arrows, broken ribs and burning oil? Do you think he will die?

I think she was relishing that her plan worked. If he does live he will be disfigured and no longer the beauty that he was.

126. If Cersei keeps sending everyone who displeases her to the Mad Scientist, Qyburn, she’s not going to have anyone left willing to hunt dwarfs. And Lady Falyse is alive but “not entirely comfortable”… **shivers**

Yeah, she is going mad.

127. Does Lord Hallyne of the Guild of Alchemist really have a dragon egg? If so, whose royal blood will be used to hatch it?

It sounded to me like they currently did not have one but you never know.

128. Cersei continues to have banking issues; will this be her downfall? Or her interference with the High Septon’s/Sparrow’s conversion of the whores on the Street of Silk?

I think her downfall is going to be a little of everything. Sooner or later people will not deal with it anymore.

129. Lord Gyles seemed pretty sick to me, when last we saw/heard him. We know Cersei is paranoid, but is she right? Is someone really hastening his death?

I don't think so. I think she is paranoid and thinks everyone is out to get her.

130. Whoa! King Tommen finally REALLY stood up to his mother, and in defense of his wife, Queen Margaery. Cersei really lost it there and seemed excessively paranoid and cruel to me. I think there is a possibility that it may be her own son who turns against her. Do you?

I was wondering the same thing, he is just so young right now. If he does act it will be through Margaery.

131. “…the valonquar shall wrap his hand about your pale white throat and choke the life from you…” was foretold by Maggy the Frog to Cersei. We know“volonaqar” means brother. Now the question is: which one? Tyrion or Jamie?

I am thinking Jamie.

132. What nefarious plans does Cersei have for the “little queen”; death or false accusations of adultery? Or does one lead to the other?

I think adultery with the Kettleblack guy. Then she is going to have him duel for his life but with Blout who he can beat.

133. Am I the only one who was thinking what a massive army the Others will have if whoever is hanging all those people keeps hanging them?

Did not think that.

134. Just when Brienne is about to tell Gendry who his sire is, she’s interrupted. Think she’ll live to tell him?

Yes.

135. I’ll admit it. I STILL don’t know who it was pretending to be the Hound. Do you?

Nope.

136. Gross. All that description about Biter disfiguring Brienne. Disgusting. And that whole “sword-tongue” thing at the end of the chapter was because someone thrust a real sword through the back of his head, right? Not anything beastly or paranormal. Was it Ser Hyle, Gendry, Septon Meribald, or maybe even Willow?

I think it was Gendry.

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[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: "on't think he like Cersei, so he can't be too mad!"

LOL

[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: "Do I sound like a broken record too? Die Cersie, Die!"

Too funny.

[Renee]

Chapter 33 (Jaime) - Chapter 35 (Samwell)
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114) We finally know what happened to Edmund. I feel bad for his pregnant wife. What kind of father or was it grandfather would do that to his granddaughter or daughter? Plus, the whole noose around the neck????

115) Now I guess everyone will think twice before breaking an engagement to a Frey. Do you think anything will happen to Lancel?
No, not really worried about him.

116) I like Jaime's aunt a whole lot. I would like to see more of her.
She tells it straight, I enjoyed her too.

117) A very different version of Lysa was presented to us. Thoughts?
Haven't really changed my opinion of her.

118) Arya. Dear Goodness! She's blind. I hope it's temporary.
I think there was something in the milk. Or maybe she needs to be crippled like Bran to be able to open up to the wolf dreams.

119) Do you think this is how Varys and the lot collect information? Use children like Arya to uncover secrets?
A little bird told me....it is a good way to collect information. I think Varys and Littlefinger had networks involving all kinds of people to gather information. With all the costumes that Varys used to get around in, he probably was trained as a faceless man. I'd never really put it together before.
I think he was castrated as part of his training, I hope that doesn't mean they have permanently blinded Ayra/Cat as part of hers...

120) Surprised Gilly and Samwell did the deed?
I've been hoping they would.

121) He really didn't have a choice but to stay with Gilly. What are your thoughts about this?
What happens at sea, stays at sea. (unless my husband is involved)

122) All the talk of dragons is interesting. Did Aemon wanted him to tell them they'd gotten the prophecy wrong. A dragon is sexless. Made me wonder how you make baby dragons, but I digress. So there was a prophecy about the comet. Did we know that already? I don't recall hearing of one.
The red woman talked about a prophecy and manipulated things so that Stannis would fulfil it, but I thought it was a bit suss too.

“In ancient books of Asshai it is written that there will come a day after a long summer when the stars bleed and the cold breath of darkness falls heavy on the world. In this dread hour a warrior shall draw from the fire a burning sword. And that sword shall be Lightbringer, the Red Sword of Heroes, and he who clasps it shall be Azor Ahai come again, and the darkness shall flee before him.” Clash of Kings.

123) I think I forgot to mention in the chapter with Victarion and Euron, but what do you make of the story of the egg thrown into the sea by Euron?
Not sure.

124) I wonder where will Samwell end up?
I think he will go to oldtown, train to be a maester, then counsel Dany. Then take her to the wall with the dragons to fight the whitewalkers. I still think Eddard wasn't Jon's fatther and he has Targarean blood, so that he can be one of the heads of the dragon with Dany and #3? maybe Stannis, they just said he has some Targarean blood.
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Lisa Kay's Questions for Chapters 36 (Cersei) – 37 (Brienne)
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125. Cersei had to listen to what happened to Ser Loras TWICE? In detail? Comments. Arrows, broken ribs and burning oil? Do you think he will die?
I expect him to die, but not much surprises me anymore in this series.

126. If Cersei keeps sending everyone who displeases her to the Mad Scientist, Qyburn, she’s not going to have anyone left willing to hunt dwarfs. And Lady Falyse is alive but “not entirely comfortable”… **shivers**
She is getting crueler.

127. Does Lord Hallyne of the Guild of Alchemist really have a dragon egg? If so, whose royal blood will be used to hatch it?
Maybe they will just blow themselves up with wildfire like others have.

128. Cersei continues to have banking issues; will this be her downfall? Or her interference with the High Septon’s/Sparrow’s conversion of the whores on the Street of Silk?
I don't car, just Die Cersei,Die already....

129. Lord Gyles seemed pretty sick to me, when last we saw/heard him. We know Cersei is paranoid, but is she right? Is someone really hastening his death?
I think Margaery might be up to some mischief too.

130. Whoa! King Tommen finally REALLY stood up to his mother, and in defense of his wife, Queen Margaery. Cersei really lost it there and seemed excessively paranoid and cruel to me. I think there is a possibility that it may be her own son who turns against her. Do you?
She is making alot of enemies.

131. “…the valonquar shall wrap his hand about your pale white throat and choke the life from you…” was foretold by Maggy the Frog to Cersei. We know “volonaqar” means brother. Now the question is: which one? Tyrion or Jamie?
It says hand not hands, so I'm guessing Jaime.

132. What nefarious plans does Cersei have for the “little queen”; death or false accusations of adultery? Or does one lead to the other?
I think she is planning for one to lead to the other. I wonder how much mischeif Cersei will get up to before Jaime takes her out.

133. Am I the only one who was thinking what a massive army the Others will have if whoever is hanging all those people keeps hanging them?
That hadn't occured to me, I didn't think they were down that far south yet, and the bodies would be too old by the time they get there.

134. Just when Brienne is about to tell Gendry who his sire is, she’s interrupted. Think she’ll live to tell him?
I hope so.

135. I’ll admit it. I STILL don’t know who it was pretending to be the Hound. Do you?
Nope.

136. Gross. All that description about Biter disfiguring Brienne. Disgusting. And that whole “sword-tongue” thing at the end of the chapter was because someone thrust a real sword through the back of his head, right? Not anything beastly or paranormal. Was it Ser Hyle, Gendry, Septon Meribald, or maybe even Willow?
I hadn't really processed that bit, but a sword thrust would explain it. I hope Gendry, I like the story crossovers and like to think of him being the hero.
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[Lisa Kay]

Again, I enjoyed your answers, Zonnah and Renee. Good catch on #131, Renee.

[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: " Or maybe she needs to be crippled like Bran to be able to open up to the wolf dreams."

I did not even think about that.

Renee wrote: "With all the costumes that Varys used to get around in, he probably was trained as a faceless man."

Good catch. I can't wait to find out if this is true.

[Zonnah]

Renee wrote: " just Die Cersei,Die already..."

You crack me up. :)

[Renee]

Questions for Chapter 38 (Jaime) – Chapter 39 (Cersei)
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137. I found myself rooting for Jaime in the parlay with Blackfish. Anyone else?
Yep. I'm liking Jaime more now too.

138. Jaime offered Edmure in exchange for Lady Sybelle Westerling and her 3 daughters. I thought that was a pretty good deal!


139. Surprised that Jaime freed Edmure?
Yes and No. A lLannister always pays his debts, so if he made the deal i would expect him to follow through, but Edmure had held him captive before.

140. I thought Jaime’s offer to Edmure was very generous, especially considering the Tullys are outnumbered and out-armed. Do you think Edmure will accept the terms?
No. I expect Edmure to be stubborn and fight, but I think he should agree.

141. What is it about singers and songs in this series? Edmure’s reaction to the singer seems like fear…was this the same singer who sang the Rains of Castemere at the Red Wedding?
Not sure.

142. Lisa Kay asked this earlier, but it’s worth visiting again: was Gyles murdered or did he die of natural causes?
I think something suss, Tyrell related.

143. I am losing track of what is real and what is fabricated in the characters’ minds. When Pycelle tells Cersei that Margaery was asking for Moon Tea, this is proof that Margaery is doing the deed with someone other than her (too young for doing the deed) husband. Now, did Pycelle make it up to appease Cersei, or is it really true? Cersei had been pushing one of the Kettleblacks to sleep with the young Queen, did it finally happen when Loras went away? Or could she be sleeping with someone else? Or was she really sleeping with her brother? Maybe she was asking for it to intentionally cause suspicion, but that would be a very dangerous game to play, no?
So many twisty posibilities. Not game to guess, but I don't think she is a maiden anymore.

144. Did I miss something? Why is the singer accused? Were his confessions true or torture-created? How about that torture scene? **shudders**
Graphic torture scene. He was Magaery's favourite singer, who I suspected of sleeping with her too. Not sure if he did or if the confession was tortuer induced.

145. I don’t trust Lady Merryweather. I think she’s up to something, perhaps plotting with her husband? He seemed mighty uncomfortable at that dinner.
I think she is playing the game too. I like her more than Cersei (you'd never guess, I don't like Cersei...)

146. Uh-oh, is Cersei about to get raped?
She is about to follow through on many unfulfilled promises. Probably tecnichally rape, but I don't think she will put up a fight, i think she will go along to make sure he says what she wants him to.
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Questions for Chapters 40 (The Princess in the Tower) - Chapter 41 (Alayne)
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147) Wow! What a revelation. Arianne was to be Dany's sister-in-law. No doubt as to whose side that group is on. I can't help wondering why they agree to marry Myrcella into the family in the first place? Is this one of those keep your enemies close things?
I thought they were trying to get links to the throne.

148) Poor Myrcella is scarred for life and missing an ear.
But alive.

149) Dorne is still hers, but will there me greater punishment than her being locked up? Looks like she truly had feelings for Ayrs.
I think they are trying to marry her brother to Dany so he can be king, since Arianne be queen. Dorne is still the booby prize compared to the original plan.

150) Do you think Quentyn is with Dany or on his way to be with her?
Yes. Looks like Dany will have a few suitors trying to win her over.

151) What do you make of Littlefinger's plans for Sansa?
I knew he would have something up his sleeve, but what does he get out of it?

152) Littlefinger seems to like Sansa's kisses a little too much. Anyone else worried about Littlefinger's unwanted advances?
I thought he was going to try to marry Sansa himself. I don't think he will take her maidenhead, as I think that would jepordize the marriage he has arranged.

153) Do you think little robert is too sick to survive? Could they be poisoning him? The asking about blood just made me wonder.
The treatment for the seizures is something that builds up in the body and can poison over time, I think bleeding from the nose might be a symptom. I don't think anyone is trying to kill him, but I don't think he will live long.

154) I think Sansa loves her cousin Robert even if he is a pain. He seems to rely on her. She's taking the place of his mother. What are your thoughts on all this?
Someone needs to look after the poor kid. She is the only true family he has, even if he doesn't know it.

155) Thoughts of Myranda Royce? Could she give Sansa trouble?
I don't really trust her. She seems a bit manipulative too.
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Questions for Chapter 42 (Brienne) - Chapter 45 (Samwell)
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I'm going to start this one out with the shocking stuff first.

156) Catelyn and Brienne reunited. Do you think Brienne will die?
Yes, I don't think Catelyn believes her.

157) Podrick dead???? No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one is safe from the wrath of George R R Martin...

158) Rob's wife's family was in on killing him? Oh dear goodness! I'm utterly speechless! Anyone see this coming?
I didn't see this one!

159) Cersei and Margaery held by the Septa??????? What did Cersie unleash?
Her own demise.

160) Cersei's note to Jaime was very vague. I don't blame him for not going. Do you think he would have if he realized what a mess she'd landed herself in?
Nope, he is fulfilling prophesy by strangling the note with his hand and destroying it, I think he has condemned Cersei to her death (at last!)

161) Any thoughts on what letting Ser Brynden escape will do?
Nope.

162) Freys going to side with Stannis? Could be an interesting developement.
Think there will be lots of interesting develpoments from here on.

163) I have to say I hate how women are made to look so frail and stupid in this book. I want Dany! I'm even questioning Arya's intelligence since she took up with the creepy guy with a worm in his eye socket.
Many of the characters seem to wax and wane in my opinion.

164) I'm a little confused. Samwell ended up where he was supposed to go, but Gilly will stay with the Islanders?
I think she will be safer there.

165) Thoughts on the visit with the archmaester?
Finally, someone who knows what is going on - it's all so crazy no wonder people think he is a bit mad. Looks like the Maesters are playing the game of thrones too, and have been controlling alot of things behind the scenes.

166) They thought Stannis was to be King. Once they realize it's Dany who was to fulfill the prophecy, what will they do with Stannis?
Don't know.
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