[F2F Book Discussions] February 2014: What We Talk About When We Talk About Love: Stories by Raymond Carver [Genre: Short Stories] | Moderator: Monique

[Monique]

Hello, bookish friends! I'm Monique and I will be moderating the discussion for our February book, Raymond Carver's What We Talk About When We Talk About Love: Stories.

The book is a collection of 17 short stories, around a 130+ pages, more or less. It's a pretty short read so I'm going to defer posting a reading plan for now just to give time to everyone to find copies. (view spoiler)[Mommy Louize has agreed to share her audiobook copy and Mae is also kind enough to share her ebook copy. Thank you, ladies! (hide spoiler)] Just check back here in a few days for the reading plan.

Here's the reading plan, friends, as promised. You don't need to follow this strictly, but remember that I will be posting questions per week based on this. :)

READING PLAN

WEEK 1 (Jan. 26 - Feb. 1)
- Why Don't You Dance?
- Viewfinder
- Mr Coffee and Mr Fixit
- Gazebo

WEEK 2 (Feb. 2 - 8)
- I Could See The Smallest Things
- Sacks
- The Bath
- Tell The Women We're Going

WEEK 3 (Feb. 9 - 15)
- After The Denim
- So Much Water So Close To Home
- The Third Thing That Killed My Father Off
- A Serious Talk

WEEK 4 (Feb. 16 - 22)
- The Calm
- Popular Mechanics
- Everything Stuck To Him
- What We Talk About When We Talk About Love
- One More Thing

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Meantime, let's acquaint ourselves with the writer, Raymond Carver. :)

From Amazon:
Raymond Carver was born in Clatskanie, Oregon, in 1938. His father was a saw-mill worker and his mother was a waitress and clerk. He married early and for years writing had to come second to earning a living for his young family. Despite, small-press publication, it was not until Will You Please Be Quiet Please? appeared in 1976 that his work began to reach a wider audience. This was the year in which he gave up alcohol, which had contributed to the collapse of his marriage. In 1977 he met the writer Tess Gallagher, with whom he shared the last eleven years of his life. During this prolific period he wrote three collections of stories, What We Talk About When We Talk About Love, Cathedral and Elephant. Fires, a collection of essays, poems and stories, appeared in 1985, followed by three further collections of poetry. In 1988 he completed the poetry collection A New Path to the Waterfall.

Carver's work is classified under the genre/category called dirty realism, a term coined to define a North American literary movement. Writers in this sub-category of realism are said to depict the seamier or more mundane aspects of ordinary life in spare, unadorned language. To be specific, dirty realism is "the fiction of a new generation of American authors. They write about the belly-side of contemporary life – a deserted husband, an unwed mother, a car thief, a pickpocket, a drug addict – but they write about it with a disturbing detachment, at times verging on comedy. Understated, ironic, sometimes savage, but insistently compassionate, these stories constitute a new voice in fiction."

Hope you guys could join in the discussions! :)

[Tina]

Yay!

I've read this book na, so maybe I'll just read the other Carver I borrowed from Angus while you all read this. :)

[Tricia]

Yey :) (view spoiler)[lol for notification purposes (hide spoiler)]

[Mae]

*twirls in*

Hello! I come bearing gifts, as promised. :D

(view spoiler)[
For those who need ebook copies of our book of the month, just clicky the linky:

mobi
epub

Happy reading! (hide spoiler)]

*twirls out amidst a cloud of purple glitter*

[Gwaxa]

Mae wrote: "*twirls in*

Hello! I come bearing gifts, as promised. :D


For those who need ebook copies of our book of the month, just clicky the linky:

mobi
epub

Happy reading!

*twirls out amidst a cloud o..."

Thanks, Mae. :D

[Meliza]

Mae: Thank you... :P (So girly entrance and exit...)

[Mabelle]

Thanks a lot Mae! ;)

[Maria]

Tricia wrote: "Yey :) [spoilers removed]"

ditto!

[Louize]

Thank you, Mae!

[Alexa]

Thanks Mae!!

[Louize]

For those who need a quick fix, hehehe

(view spoiler)[
here's the audiobook:
https://app.box.com/s/qahkhixzrcnixzk...

(hide spoiler)]

[Monique]

Thanks for sharing, Mae and Mommy Louize! <3

I will post the reading plan at the end of this week and we'll start on Monday, January 27. :)

Meantime, here are a couple of things you guys can answer, just to kick off and get everyone in on the discussion. Remember: we'll talk about love. :)

(1) Finish the sentence: When I hear the word "love," I think about ________.

(2) What is your love language? Do you show it by saying words of affirmation, physical touch, acts of service, receiving/giving gifts, or spending quality time with your special someone? If you don't know it yet but are interested to know your primary love language (or how you best express your love), you can take this test . (view spoiler)[The test is actually made for married couples but I think it can be answered by everyone. :) (hide spoiler)]

If you do take the test, tell us about the results. Are they accurate? Do you agree? Why or why not?

[Maria]

(1) Finish the sentence: When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[people. how can someone live through one day to another without it? I think about my parents, how unbelievably unconditional their love is to us (kahit na black sheep ang peg naming magkakapatid at one point in our lives). I think about my friends, and how I like them to have that kind of relationship that is fulfilling and rewarding. I think about my BFB (best friend w/ benefits), and how blessed I am that he took a brave step to make ligaw, yihii! I think about my son, and feel loved by Him because He lent me this awesome angel. :) (hide spoiler)]

(2) What is your love language?(view spoiler)[Physical Touch! that's my primary love language, followed by quality time. (hide spoiler)]

If you do take the test, tell us about the results.(view spoiler)[ I took this one during a pre-marriage seminar years ago. It was not surprising for me, but I was surprised what BFB's love language is.(view spoiler)[Acts of Service. (hide spoiler)] I thought, so that's why he's not into gifts! LOL Are they accurate? (view spoiler)[I believe it can be accurate provided that you answers the test questions as truthfully as possible. (hide spoiler)] Do you agree? (view spoiler)[Yes. (hide spoiler)] Why or why not?(view spoiler)[ Because when I started to give more acts of service to BFB (preparing his food, doing his laundry sometimes), he's happy and our relationship improved in that aspect. (hide spoiler)] (hide spoiler)]

[Tricia]

1. Love (view spoiler)[This might sound religious but whenever I hear love, I remember 1 Corinthians 13. God is love :) but in addition to that, I remember my family and friends. Also, maybe, my special someone (kung meron lol) (view spoiler)[and my TFG boyfriends, hi :P (hide spoiler)] (hide spoiler)]

2. Love Language (view spoiler)[I actually know what is my love language without taking the exam but I still took the exam. Confirmed: Physical touch and quality time. Well, I don't know, as a nurse, I learned that physical touch and our physical presence help people to calm down/feel loved/cared/etc. (hide spoiler)]

[Lynai]

1. When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[ my wedding day. Second, my baby. I think that being a mom has taught me a lot about selfless, enduring love. Hee. :) (hide spoiler)]

2. What is your love language? (view spoiler)[ before I took the test, I thought that my love language -- meaning I feel more loved -- when people do unexpected, thoughtful things for me. And I also show my love through acts of service and spending time with the people I love. This was affirmed when I finally took the love language test earlier, because the results were that Quality Time was my primary love language, then Physical Touch, then Receiving Gifts, then Acts of Service, and last, Words of Affirmation. (hide spoiler)]

[Louize]

(1) Finish the sentence: When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[ being blessed. I am blessed to be nurtured by a wonderful family; blessed that God is using me in His service thru our church; blessed that I have friends who appreciates me and accepts me as I am.

When I think of love, I also think about how much it is needed in this world without restrictions and expectations; of how it should be given with open hearts, open mind and open doors. (hide spoiler)]

(2) What is your love language? (view spoiler)[
Even before I took the test, I knew the most probable outcome -Physical Touch, followed by Quality Time, then Words of Affirmation.

The thing is, I have no problem with my hubby in any of these languages. Sometimes, we simply drive around the village on his bike, me clinging on to him, while talking about everything and anything. I receive gifts every now and then in no occasion at all. He does his share of house chores and errands; doing the laundry, grocery, and cooking are no big deals to him. These things are possible maybe because we talk openly to each other, we're best friends next to being husband and wife. And we are both committed in keeping each other.
(hide spoiler)]

[Krizia Anna]

Ahhhh I cannot see the link on my phone!! Can anybody dropbox it to me? :)

[Angus]

When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[forgiveness. It's the first word that flashed in my mind's eye. As in zero record of the bad things that has happened to us (I think forgiveness is not pure if you don't forget). When I hear love, I also think of kindness, trust, humility, and hope. (hide spoiler)]

My love languages are (view spoiler)[acts of service and quality time (hide spoiler)]. Below are my scores:

(view spoiler)[
04 Words of Affirmation
10 Quality Time
04 Receiving Gifts
11 Acts of Service
01 Physical Touch
(hide spoiler)]

I think the results are pretty accurate. I took the test three times and it yielded the same figures. I haven't taken the exam before and this is the first time that I've heard of the five love languages. I agree with the results because they match the love languages I mentioned above.

[Cary]

When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[ God/Jesus because God is Love. That's the highest form of love I've ever known and received. And this is also the kind of love I'm trying to imitate. I want to love like He loved. I know I still have a long way to go to perfect this but I trust Him that He will teach me how along the way. (hide spoiler)]

What is your love language? (view spoiler)[ Quality time followed by acts of service (hide spoiler)]

My Scores
(view spoiler)[ 4 Words of Affirmation
11 Quality Time
4 Receiving Gifts
10 Acts of Service
1 Physical Touch

I think the results are accurate. I'm not really a touchy person and honestly sometimes I feel awkward when I'm being hugged :). I've always believed that true and sincere love is expressed through actions. (hide spoiler)]

[Tina]

When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[courage. Because loving, really loving requires courage. It's vulnerability at its best (view spoiler)[(I just finished Brene Brown's Daring Greatly, so :D) (hide spoiler)]. As John wrote, "There is no room in love for fear. Well-formed love banishes fear." (1 John 4:18) (hide spoiler)]

What is your love language?
(view spoiler)[I took this test ages ago, but I tried it again today, just because. My primary love language is still the same, quality time. I think that's why I like planning things where people can gather, and why I like spending time with people I care for and why I go out of my way to visit friends whenever I can. :) I also really like surprise visits, among other things.

My secondary ones are Receiving Gifts and Acts of Service. I only really realized the receiving gifts one a few years back, but it's really more of how I show my love to others -- I like making and giving gifts. :) I guess in a way, making gifts is an act of service, too, because of the time spent making it, right? :) (hide spoiler)]

[Marie]

Thank you Mae for the ebook!

When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[ dependability & unconditional acceptance (hide spoiler)].

What is your love language? (view spoiler)[ Quality time, and then Act of Service.

My Scores:
2 Words of Affirmation
10 Quality Time
6 Receiving Gifts
9 Acts of Service
3 Physical Touch

Accurate. While pretty love words & physical acts of affection are nice, I believe these are not reliable means of communicating about love. As always, action speaks louder than words. :-) (hide spoiler)]

[Krizia Anna]

1. When I hear the word love i think about my son :)
2. My love language is physical touch :)

[Tricia]

Louize wrote: "(1) Finish the sentence: When I hear the word "love," I think about being blessed. I am blessed to be nurtured by a wonderful family; blessed that God is using me in His service thru our church; b..."

<3

[Monique]

Thank you for your answers, friends! :)

SIS: Don't we all associate "love" with our family? They're the epitome of the word. And why am I not surprised that Physical Touch is your primary love language? Haha!

TRICIA: That's the best definition of love, yes? :) Aha, another "touchy" person, haha!

LYNAI: I can almost hear the wedding bells in my head. :) And yay for Quality Time! :D

MOMMY L: Amen to all those! Hmm, I thought for sure though that your primary love language would be Acts of Service, and I'm a little surprised it didn't make it to your top three. But it's good to know that you and hubby always express your love through any of the five. ;)

BUDDY: Some people do find it hard to forgive *and* forget, though. Does this mean they won't be able to love a person they haven't forgiven? :) Ah, Acts of Service. Maybe that's why you're an appreciative person. :)

CARY: Amen again! :) And I hope you'll have someone who will render acts of service for you this year! Yihii! :P

COUSIN: No arguments there - loving is an act of courage. :) And again, yay for Quality Time! :D

MARIE: Short and sweet. And true. :) Can anyone dispute your last statement? :)

KRIZIA ANNA: Our kids will always symbolize love, yes? :)

[Meliza]

1. When I hear the word "love", I think about happiness. It just feels happy to love and be loved.

2. What is your love language? First is Quality Time. Next with the same score: Words of Affirmation and Acts of Service.

[Gwaxa]

(1) Finish the sentence: When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[strength. It may make us irrational at times, but I also believe that love makes us stronger in dealing with life. (hide spoiler)]

(2) What is your love language? (view spoiler)[My love languages are acts of service and spending quality time with my loved ones. (hide spoiler)]

If you do take the test, tell us about the results.
(view spoiler)[
5 Words of Affirmation
11 Quality Time
5 Receiving Gifts
6 Acts of Service
3 Physical Touch
(hide spoiler)]

Are they accurate? Do you agree? Why or why not? (view spoiler)[I think my results are accurate. I've always been greedy when it comes to quality time with the people I love. That's why I love to travel. I believe the shared experience makes me appreciate the person more. As for my lowest score, I'm not a touchy person. There are only a few friends whom I'm comfortable hugging and touching. I have very close friends whom I haven't even hugged until now. I prefer conversations instead of physical touch. (hide spoiler)]

[Mae]

When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[a battlefield. Because according to Pat Benatar, love is a battlefield daw. #trollanswer (hide spoiler)]

Okay, serious na.

When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[the universe. Because love is just as vast, just as unpredictable, just as immense and unfathomable. We know so much yet so little, and we may never fully understand it. (view spoiler)[Pumo-profound. Haha. Sorry, my fever is making me slightly delirious. :)) (hide spoiler)] (hide spoiler)]

What is your love language? (view spoiler)[My primary love languages are Quality Time and Physical Touch. I swear, nag-tie sila twice.

Here are my results:
(view spoiler)[6 Words of Affirmation
9 Quality Time
4 Receiving Gifts
2 Acts of Service
9 Physical Touch
(hide spoiler)]

I think this fairly accurate. With regards to quality time, I really love spending time with the people I love, preferably in small groups so I can focus more on them. It doesn't even have to be in person - talking on the phone or on Skype works just as well - as long as I get to bond with a person on a more personal level.

With regards to physical touch... what can I say? I love hugs! I'm choosy, though. I'll only touch/let myself be touched by people I'm really close to. So if I touch you a lot and I let you hug me or touch me in any way, it means that I lurve you. [insert platonic disclaimer here] Haha. (hide spoiler)]

[Veronica]

When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[ the people who taught me what love is all about. From my partner and best friend, I learned respect, forgiveness and thoughtfulness. From my family, I learned generosity and loyalty. From my dogs (of course!), I learned unconditional love. (hide spoiler)].

What is your love language? (view spoiler)[Quality Time. Actually, I was pleasantly surprised my partner got the same result. Even more surprised that I didn't have to twist his arm to take the test! :) (hide spoiler)]

[AennA]

What is Love? Love is....

(view spoiler)[Love. When I hear the word "love" I think of no specific definition, but I can imagine huge arms reaching out wide open, ready for a warm embrace. Love is the core of humanity, and the force that binds it. For me, it remains to be a divine part of human emotion.
(hide spoiler)]


Love Language

(view spoiler)[
Identifying my own love language I would say my primary love language is Physical touch, seconded by spending quality time/acts of service.

I also took the test, and it gave the same result : Physical touch (11) and Quality Time (10), followed by Acts of Service, Words of Affirmation and Receiving gifts. I agree to the results.

I agree with Physical touch because I am a hugger (and a kisser, but only to family members), I enjoy holding companions while walking around, I can be physically clingy, though it doesn't seem to show in my piercing glare. I love hugging, as it gives a different sense of warm comfort, sincerity and love. It relieves stress. At home, there's never a day that I don't share a hug, especially with my mom - paired with lots of kisses. I love hugging, but I always find it awkward to share it with some other people because I don't know if I should give them a "real" hug or just a gesture of one for the sake of it - and I hate the latter. So, I end up giving them my cursing stare, instead. :)

Caution tho': It doesn't mean anyone can just touch/hug me for no reason. I'm quite good in hitting people with my pointy elbows.

Quality time is quality time. More time for clinginess and hugs.
(hide spoiler)]

[Tina]

AennA wrote: "So, I end up giving them my cursing stare, instead. :)"

We can always call it your own "look of love". ;)

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I forgot to mention that my lowest score in the love language test was Physical Touch. I'm not really touchy, only to the people I'm closest to. I like hugs, though, but I think I only really do it to say, "I missed you!" or "Goodbye, thanks for your time today" or "I will hug you because I think you need one/I need one". (view spoiler)[If I give you a hug without a reason, then I'm probably just really close to you. Hehe. (hide spoiler)] There was one time, though, I was so down that I told my friend not to hug me because I will just cry but she still did and yes, I did cry. :P

[Monique]

MELIZA: *cue rainbows and butterflies and hearts* :)

GWAXA: Uuuy, strength. Can I ask you to elaborate further on the F2F? :D

MAE: I like Pat Benatar's "We Belong" more, haha! Naks, pa-deep answer. :))

RONNIE: Yay, your partner took the test? So sweet that you got the same answers. <3

AENNA: Aw, Lady Tonks is touchy-feely! I'll remember that when you fix that cursing stare at me, haha! :D

COUSIN: Physical Touch is my second love language. :D

[Cary]

AennA wrote: "What is Love? Love is....

Love. When I hear the word "love" I think of no specific definition, but I can imagine huge arms reaching out wide open, ready for a warm embrace. Love is the core of hum..."

anna, I can't imagine you being touchy hahaha

[Maria Ella]

Napansin ko na puru girly and physical touch ang laman ng thread :D

Anyways, when I think about love i think (view spoiler)[about KILIG. it as a blessing - the blessing of having warm fuzzy feeling. When a father hugs his son and say that, even you are not being hugged, you feel that warm fuzzy feeling. When best friends once fought and made amends, you feel that again. The strongest I felt is when I watched a wedding, crying as they recite their vows. Actually, a wedding ceremony is also a warm fuzzy feeling. (hide spoiler)]

Wait, test results? here you go(view spoiler)[
Your Scores(view spoiler)[
4 Words of Affirmation
10 Quality Time
7 Receiving Gifts
5 Acts of Service
4 Physical Touch (hide spoiler)]

I am not a touchy person, and I think that affirmation and compliments are innate to people, like they have to do it everyday. Little did I know that it is also considered a love language.

So quality time is the best way - bondings, debates, vacation, trips, visitations, all those things. If you give your time, you love him/her. So if I give time to have bonding moments with you - I love you. (hide spoiler)]

Sending warm fuzzy hugs~ :)

[Angus]

Monique wrote: "Some people do find it hard to forgive *and* forget, though. Does this mean they won't be able to love a person they haven't forgiven?"

What I'm trying to say is it takes a lot to forgive *and* forget. If one is able to do that (partner, family, friend, God, et al), the person's love must be pure and unconditional that it made him or her to forget the sins of (insert object of love here). [Cue Katy Perry]. Does this mean they won't be able to love a person they haven't forgiven? I guess not, in the purest sense of loving.

[Bennard]

(1) Finish the sentence: When I hear the word "love," I think about (view spoiler)[nothing. I seriously come up blank. I think love is this mysterious and unknowable thing that we only experience in different dimensions, one-at-a-time. However, if I think hard enough, Rhena's face pops up in my mind. Hahaha. :D (hide spoiler)]

(2) What is your love language?
(view spoiler)[
I took the test and the results are:

04 for Words of Affirmation
12 for Quality Time
00 for Receiving Gifts
06 for Acts of Service
08 for Physical Touch

I'm not really surprised by the results because I love spending time with my loved ones and being touched by them.
(hide spoiler)]

[Gwaxa]

Monique wrote: "GWAXA: Uuuy, strength. Can I ask you to elaborate further on the F2F? :D"

Hahahaha. Pwede din. Although wala naman akong ishe-share na story of heartbreak or triumph. ;)

[Maria Ella]

Pwede na bang gumulong sa kilig rito -
However, if I think hard enough, Rhena's face pops up in my mind. Hahaha. :D

Hi Benny~~~ :D

[Tina]

Angus and Monique: maybe it's not so much as forgetting, but you know, releasing the hold of the offense on you and the other person. Stop holding them against it, and all that. Ika nga sa Frozen, "Let it go." :D Just my two cents. :)

Also, natatawa ako. Kaya siguro up to sawa tayo tumambay dito sa TFG. Halos lahat Quality Time ang primary love language. :D

[Cary]

Tina, kaya pala mga clingy! haha.

[Bennard]

Ella: Hello. :p Wag ka muna kiligin, medyo maaga pa. :D

[Monique]

ELLA: "Kilig"? Wala nang mas gi-girly pa dun ah! :P

BUDDY: Perhaps, a topic for further discussion? :D

BENNY: Naman! Bakit kelangan pang mag-isip, at "hard enough" pa para lang sabihin mo na "Rhena"? Hahaha! :P

COUSIN: Yan pala ang basis for the pa-morning-an F2Fs and HOHOLs. :))

[Angus]

Tina, Buddy: What We Talk About When We Talk About Forgiveness?

[Tina]

Angus: well, I read somewhere before you mentioned it here na to love is to forgive. Keri naman. :D Hehe. (view spoiler)[Mas onti lang feels nito siguro. XD (hide spoiler)]

[Meliza]

Wow. Quality Time is included in everyone's Top 2 (or 3) love languages.

[Mae]

Benny: Quattro Formaggi? ang daming cheese eh. :P

Meliza: Love languages ang usapan dito. Ibang usapan na yang body language. XD

[Meliza]

Shocks! Hahaha. Bakit body language nasulat ko? Pwede i-edit? LOL

[Ranee]

Hi guys! I'm typing inside the nurse station (rebelde kunwari)against hospital regulation

(1) Finish the sentence: When I hear the word "love," (view spoiler)[I think about all the things that carries positive energy. Well, I guess I am an optimist and love is at its best when paired with this. Because they share that same energy that makes you want to wake in the morning, travel around, stop to smell the flowers or smile at a stranger. It is also the energy present when you know your family is healthy, your crush passed by and you smelled his cologne (view spoiler)[ I'm smiling like crazy now, I've just remembered my ultimate crush whom I would wait for in the nurse's station and pretend to write notes just so I can be right beside him. Hihi, those were the days (hide spoiler)] or in my case, my patient got better. (hide spoiler)]

(2) What is your love language?
(view spoiler)[I took the test and my results showed that my love is expressed through acts of service. Well, it is true, I like doing random acts of kindness and some not so random acts, like if you want to talk to someone in the middle of the night, I'll go there. Need a kainuman? I'm just a single text/call away. I am that person who would clean the plates even if I hate doing the dishes or do small and big favors.(view spoiler)[ I guess, I like verbs a lot, because it is an action word. hehe (hide spoiler)] In the test, Quality time came next, followed by Receiving/Giving gifts then by Words of affirmation. I expected this order. I believe in spending time together and stressing on the "quality" it does not matter to me if it were an hour or 5 years as long as the time spent is meaningful but recently, I have developed my clingyness and want to have more time with people I like and love. I like giving gifts too, but if I give gifts, I see to it that it holds purpose or something that I am passionate about, this is also true with the gifts that I receive, I make sure I use them and make a big effort not to lose them/destroy them. My score for physical touch is one. It is quite accurate because I come from a family that are not big on the hugs and kisses. In effect, I do not initiate giving hugs or kiss people. Actually I've just learned to practice the beso-beso in medschool. haha! But, if I do hug or kiss someone, it means I really, really mean it because I went out of my comfort zone just to do so. (hide spoiler)]

[Maria]

SIS: And why am I not surprised that Physical Touch is your primary love language? Haha!

Hooooooy! What does that mean, ha?!! lol Salbahe! hahaha

To those who have Physical Touch and Quality time as their top 2 love languages (view spoiler)[Kaya pala tayo nagkakasundo, ano! hahaha, Apir! (hide spoiler)]

Chami: (view spoiler)[I can forgive, but I can never forget. And this is good for me because I do not want to forget the lessons learned, the hurt experienced, because these are the things that made me stronger. So yeah. But that's just me. Besides, pornographic este photographic ang memory ko, so no can do. lol

Parang 'I remember the boy, but I don't remember the feeling anymore.' Boom! wahahaha (hide spoiler)]

[Louize]

Maria wrote: "To those who have Physical Touch and Quality time as their top 2 love languages [Kaya pala tayo nagkakasundo, ano! hahaha, Apir!"

True, that!

Kapag galit kami, pisikal din! >.<

[Maria]

Louize, apir ulet! :D