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Am I the only one who hates this book with burning passion?

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Matthew I didn't hate it, but I wasn't in love with it as so many others were. I read it about a year ago and, frankly, a lot of it has already evaporated into the ether. I found the tone of the book ambiguous to the point of indifference. I wasn't really "touched" by the characters and was not particularly amused by their supposedly witty observations and personas.


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A Sammy wrote: "yes yes you are. I know everybody is initialed to their own opinion but this book is so amazing, its written beautifully."

No. I'm not the only one who hated this book and this thread proves that. Anyways, thanks for your kind comment.


Cecilia Dupre I agree with Sammy! We can all think openly about the book though. There were parts that could be different or written differently but the book had a good message over all that maybe all of us didn't see but we should all accept others opinion whether they are good or bad.


Cecilia Dupre Sorry I meant that it was a good book from my eyes when I said that I agree with Sammy.


message 205: by Anna (new) - rated it 2 stars

Anna I can understand why people don't like this book- it isn't for everyone. But before you go around calling Hazel a bitch, you could think about what she's been through. She's had cancer ever since she was 12, been through countless failed treatments, almost died in brutal pain at least once, and has never been able to have a normal teenage life. She has to carry a freaking oxygen tank around! you don't know what that's been like. I think I would act a little bitchy too!


Cecilia Dupre But it is REALISTIC fiction. There is most likely some fat dude that everyone looks up to who is always drunk and rude and lives in Amsterdam.


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Aly wrote: "It is in no way realistic fiction."
Amen to that.


message 208: by Emma (last edited Jan 25, 2014 12:00PM) (new) - rated it 2 stars

Emma Anna wrote: "I can understand why people don't like this book- it isn't for everyone. But before you go around calling Hazel a bitch, you could think about what she's been through. She's had cancer ever since s..."

Personally, I don't think that Hazel was a bitch, that is too strong a word, in my opinion. But I do think she was a spoiled brat whose parents let her have/do anything she wanted because she was sick. It was partly her parents' fault that she was a disrespectful and ungrateful brat, it was partly her age, but ultimately Hazel was responsible for her own actions. She could have chosen to act differently. Unless you have a condition that has impaired your ability (which she did not) to do so, you always have a choice in how you treat others. Being sick is no excuse for bad behavior, and especially for being selfish and inconsiderate to your parents who have done everything they could to take care of you and make you happy.


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Sammy Young I have to say the thing I find most disrespectful in this discussion is people using the term "cancer kids" ...


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Anna Aly wrote: "It is in no way realistic fiction. That's why I couldn't connect to it -- it didn't seem at all real, it almpst sounded like a sick joke as of the book is actually mocking those who aren't well."

Yes exactly, after reading some of Greens older books I came to the conclusion, that he doesn't write "books" they are more like philosophical ramblings covered in YA fluff. TFIOS is the most prominent example of that yet and you either have a stomach for that or you don't.

And to answer the question you posed above on what was the point of the book, to me it seemed like a mix up of memento mori and carpe diem.


message 211: by Emma (new) - rated it 2 stars

Emma Crap, sorry Charlotte, I responded to the wrong person. I will delete my comment and fix it before posting again.


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Anna @ Aly don't get me wrong, that is not necessarily a bad thing, it can be thought provoking ... that is if you manage to get past the aforementioned sentimental "fluff".
This "fluff" is imo the reason you people dislike it so much and others (*cough* fangirls *cough*) rave over it.
Readers either love it, hate it, or tolerate it.


Cecilia Dupre Realistic Fiction- it could really have occurred or an illusory story where folks and actions are truthful and could.

This is realistic fiction because IT COULD HAPPEN!!!


message 214: by Kate (new) - rated it 2 stars

Kate Cecilia wrote: "Realistic Fiction- it could really have occurred or an illusory story where folks and actions are truthful and could.

This is realistic fiction because IT COULD HAPPEN!!!"


I felt like Under the Never Sky and Unwind were more realistic than this book.


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Sammy Young Trace wrote: "Hi, all. I have said my piece, as has Sammy, better than I. Since then the ugliness seems to have continued. I did not like TFIOS. I agree with Aly, Amanda, and Ayesha on that. Many of the people w..."

Trace wrote: "@Sammy - very well said."

Thank you, I thoroughly agree


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Am I the only one who loathed Augustus?


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I almost hated him more than Peter.


message 218: by Kiran (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kiran Not a great book, but not a bad one either.


Jocelyn Quijada Jara Yes, you are the only one.


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Aly wrote: "@Brooke: His whole persona reminded me of a man in his thirties/forties. Which made his 'love' for Hazel even more unrealistic."
Their 'romance' was painful to read about. Honestly, I am so over insta-love.

Jocelyn wrote: "Yes, you are the only one."
No, she isn't!


Cecilia Dupre Aly wrote: "@Cecilia: It's not realistic. No way. You're such a big fan of the book that you don't see the major flaws in it. It's your right to like the book, so don't misunderstand me when I say that if I to..."

@Aly: Give me an example of a " major Flaw"!


message 222: by Dianne (new) - rated it 3 stars

Dianne I hated this book too. The kids were snotty brats, the emotions were superficial and, for me, didn't ring true with reality at all. There was no point to this story. And yet I was alone in my dislike for this book amongst my book club friends.... Go figure.


message 223: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Jocelyn wrote: "Yes, you are the only one."




message 224: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Aly wrote: "@Cecilia: Augustus' death is a major flaw. Green made it sound like he died after a party. It wasn't sad and I felt nothing when he dropped the 'bombshell'.

Another one is the trip to Amsterdam. ..."





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Amanda Wow @ those tweets. I know he was trying to defend his friend but there was no reason to blame the readers!

I hate when celebrities disrespect their fans. They're the reason for your paycheck!

John has been coming off as a real snob lately. Especially with that tweet about Lifetime never being allowed to make a movie out of one of his books. *eye roll*


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A Lenora wrote: "Especially with that tweet about Lifetime never being allowed to make a movie out of one of his books. *eye roll*
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Can I know when did he tweet that?


message 227: by Amanda (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amanda Sorry, it was on FB, not a tweet.

I hope this picture works
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A @ Lenora

Thanks! :D


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Atikah Wahid Ayesha wrote: "Lenora wrote: "Especially with that tweet about Lifetime never being allowed to make a movie out of one of his books. *eye roll*
"

Can I know when did he tweet that?"


It's a reference to that new remake of Flowers in the Attic movie. Don't know how Lifetime could make TFIOS any worse than it already is.

And what tweets is Lenora referring to??


message 230: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A Kiki wrote: "It's a reference to that new remake of Flowers in the Attic movie. Don't know how Lifetime could make TFIOS any worse than it already is.
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Lol!

Kiki wrote: "And what tweets is Lenora referring to??"

See comment 301.


message 231: by Kara (new) - rated it 3 stars

Kara Yes that is exactly how I feel. What was the lesson of this book supposed to be? What the heck are we supposed to get from it?!?! That death of loved ones isn't always so bad? Because if that is the case then mission accomplished!


message 232: by Emma (new) - rated it 2 stars

Emma Lenora wrote: "John has been coming off as a real snob lately. Especially with that tweet about Lifetime never being allowed to make a movie out of one of his books. *eye roll*"

That's funny because TFIOS screams Lifetime Move Network cancer love-story. Shooting for cheap tears and full of unbelievable, one-dimensional characters.


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Anna Emma wrote: "Anna wrote: "I can understand why people don't like this book- it isn't for everyone. But before you go around calling Hazel a bitch, you could think about what she's been through. She's had cancer..."

Point taken. I still don't quite agree with you, but I respect your opinion. So, bye I guess.


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I loved this book but I hated that Augustus ended up dying. That sounds very selfish and I should have known that the book would end up that way but I just felt as though that Hazel's character would die and Augustus would be heartbroken.. I don't know. I really did enjoy the book though.


Bárbara Ayesha wrote: "I happily bought the hardcover of The Fault in our stars back in December 2012 after seeing the high average GR ratings and raving reviews saying how beautiful, life-changing, thought-provoking and..."

I don't hate this book but is not my favorite. I can't understand how many people love this book, it's average. Life-changing? Hardly.


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I thought it was one of my best reads, really enjoyed it. I do however, have a book that I really did not care for and every single person I talk to thought it was wonderful - Gone Girl. It's funny how a book can affect people so differently!


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Denise wrote: "I thought it was one of my best reads, really enjoyed it. I do however, have a book that I really did not care for and every single person I talk to thought it was wonderful - Gone Girl. It's f..."


Exactly! I think Gone Girl is one of my favorite books I've ever read and I've read a lot of books. So different strokes for different folks, I guess.


Cecilia Dupre say what you want everything has some kind of imperfections.


message 239: by Amanda (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amanda I rated it a 5, because when I read it in 2012, I did love it.

Looking back now, it isn't THAT great. Today I'd say it's an okay story.

It was Looking for Alaska that made me realize how damn pretentious these characters are. If they were real people I wouldn't be able to stand them.


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Everything about TFiOS is just so fake.
And it's emotionally manipulative to boot.


message 241: by Cecilia (last edited Jan 28, 2014 06:09PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Cecilia Dupre @Aly if everything were perfect nothing would be good. You just need to ignore the tiny flaws to realize the true beauty of the book.


Nika  ♥Marie♥ My mom died of Cancer a year ago and few book really touched me. It pulled on my heart because I have seen what cancer can do to you and how it makes you feel and I can only imagine how it will make a teenager feel and why they would be angry because they believe that they have so much life left to live.

I don't think if you never experienced cancer in a personal way then you wouldn't understand a lot of the book. One day my mom was fine and the next day she was gone just like Augustus. She was angry and she was mad because she didn't want to leave us behind. I had to change her diaper the last night she was here. I was there when she took her last breath. Unless you have experienced those things there is no way you can say that everything about TFiOS was fake because for me it was more than real.


Christell You're right... If I loved the book and a large amount of other people loved it too, you have every right to criticize and express the negative aspects about this book just like anyone else can too. But yeah, I liked it. :)


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A Cecilia wrote: "@Aly if everything were perfect nothing would be good. You just need to ignore the tiny flaws to realize the true beauty of the book."

There are no tiny flaws in TFIOS, there are MAJOR ones which can't be ignored.


Anokina Shahbaz I'm totally with you, and no you're not the only one! Thank goodness someone else hated it! I kept waiting for that "thing" everyone was talking about that they so loved about the book, but it never came. The writing was horrible, the characterization was narrow and superficial, and the storyline was just ok. A great author makes the reader care about the characters; I could not care less about them! I didn't care if the main character died. Author fail!


message 246: by Nika ♥Marie♥ (last edited Jan 28, 2014 09:03PM) (new) - added it

Nika  ♥Marie♥ Carthya wrote: "Charlotte wrote: "I have experienced a close family member with cancer. The book did not touch me.
It's not for everyone. It's good that it can help some people, but for me, it didn't."

Nika (Oh ..."


I agree. I was just saying why the book touched me. No one will take that away from me. Everyone has a right to their opinion but what bothers me is and this is to no one in particular but if you only read a book because of the "hype" surrounding it then maybe the book wasn't for you in the beginning.

That's like me saying I only read contemporary romance then reading a paranormal book and not liking it well that genre wasn't what I liked anyway!


Cecilia Dupre Don't you start what I was saying!!! That os all that I've been trying to tell you!


message 248: by A (last edited Jan 29, 2014 03:55AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

A Cecilia wrote: "Don't you start what I was saying!!! That os all that I've been trying to tell you!"

Don't shove your opinions down our throats. You love the book, it's good. I hate the book and it's good too and I believe that most of us here have even given proper reasons to dislike TFIOS.


message 249: by A (new) - rated it 1 star

A @Nika

I read Divergent, Percy Jackson, The book Thief and Chaos walking trilogy after following the hype and I absolutely loved them. Just because a book is hyped up doesn't mean that I'll hate it.


message 250: by A (last edited Jan 29, 2014 04:00AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

A Anokina wrote: "I'm totally with you, and no you're not the only one! Thank goodness someone else hated it! I kept waiting for that "thing" everyone was talking about that they so loved about the book, but it neve..."

*virtual hi-5*


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