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message 1: by Megan (new)

Megan (megan-no-h) | 15 comments Hi! I was wondering what I should do about short stories that are created as their own separate entries, but appear to have never been published on their own.

Specifically, it looks like one user added every story from Neil Gaiman's Smoke and Mirrors. Now, a few of these stories were okay, because many of them have been published as standalones in other ways (comics, ebooks, audiobooks, etc.) But I'm guessing the following need to be deleted:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

(And then I had these, which I wasn't sure about. I'm thinking they should be left alone - they have lots of people who have added them - but they seem based on the stories being published for free online, but not in any official way.)

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

Anyway, I figured this was best left to a super-librarian to figure out :)


message 2: by Monique (new)

Monique (kadiya) | 1099 comments I've sent a message to him asking if he has individual editions of these short stories.


message 3: by Sophie (new)

Sophie (notemily) | 469 comments Seanan McGuire's short stories have a similar problem. Never Shines the Sun has never been published on its own--it's in the back of ONLY the print edition of Chimes at Midnight.


message 4: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 42000 comments Mod
We usually merge such shorts into the larger volumes of which they are a part. (Unless they actually were individually published as ebooks or audiobooks, etc., of course.)


message 5: by Monique (new)

Monique (kadiya) | 1099 comments Per the response I got, some of these are released somewhere in Kindle format. I'll do some digging and see if I can't find them.


message 6: by Claudia (new)

Claudia | 4 comments There are a lot of short stories merged into anthologies lately, which are individually published. Examples below:

Little Wren and the Big Forest, by Michael J. Sullivan: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3... is now merged with the anthology. It can be found as standalone also: https://www.instafreebie.com/public/L...

Old Paint — by MEGAN LINDHOLM — merged now with the magazine. But it can read as a standalone here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...

Yuanyuan's Bubbles — by LIU CIXIN - merged now with the magazine: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2.... STandalone here: http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/liu_1...

Cat Pictures Please by Naomi Kritzer - like the above: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... / http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/kritz...

I and many others have read just these stories and rated as such. Now there is the entire magazine instead of just the story. Is this merging normal?


message 7: by [deleted user] (last edited Nov 17, 2017 11:11AM) (new)

from msg 6 example 4 got re-added. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3... seems like its going to be a constant chase. its url brings you to the online mag

Edit: This has now been merged into an anthology of hers.


message 8: by Cassandra (last edited Nov 17, 2017 11:06AM) (new)

Cassandra (cassanj) | 4919 comments Claudia wrote: "There are a lot of short stories merged into anthologies lately, which are individually published. Examples below:

Little Wren and the Big Forest, by Michael J. Sullivan: https://www.goodreads.com..."


If a book is not freely available to purchase and/or requires a subscription to a mailing list or log-in then that is not considered published by Goodreads standards. The same goes if the story was never published outside of an anthology, etc. There's a thread for the Clarkesworld story project here- https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/....

Non-book items per the librarian's manual- https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/3....


message 9: by Elizabeth (Alaska) (last edited Nov 17, 2017 11:03AM) (new)

Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6585 comments Claudia wrote: "I and many others have read just these stories and rated as such. Now there is the entire magazine instead of just the story. Is this merging normal? "

None of those have been published separately. Published in an online magazine is not published separately.


message 10: by Gloria (new)

Gloria | 88 comments "The Labours of Hercules" was the anthology and contained "The Augean Stables". I don't think it was published on its own, except for the Amazon.com listing of the story in a magazine (both in the 1940's).

And they are considered two different editions of the same book.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...


message 11: by Cassandra (new)

Cassandra (cassanj) | 4919 comments Gloria wrote: ""The Labours of Hercules" was the anthology and contained "The Augean Stables". I don't think it was published on its own, except for the Amazon.com listing of the story in a magazine (both in the ..."

Then it should be merged into the anthology.


message 12: by Gloria (new)

Gloria | 88 comments As well as, slightly different facts: Problem at Pollensa Bay is both an anthology and a short story (published on Kindle separately). Both considered the same edition.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...


message 13: by Cassandra (new)

Cassandra (cassanj) | 4919 comments Gloria wrote: "As well as, slightly different facts: Problem at Pollensa Bay is both an anthology and a short story (published on Kindle separately). Both considered the same edition.

https://www.goodreads.com/b..."


Those should be separated.


Elizabeth (Alaska) | 6585 comments Cassandra wrote: "Those should be separated. "

I think someone has done this now.


message 15: by Cassandra (last edited Nov 17, 2017 01:22PM) (new)

Cassandra (cassanj) | 4919 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Cassandra wrote: "Those should be separated. "

I think someone has done this now."


It was me :) Although I think there are still some editions combined that shouldn't be; some have 3 short stories, and some look like they have 7 (or more?). I separated what was apparent as one story, and may go back to the others when I have a little time for a project. Thanks, Elizabeth!


message 16: by rivka, Librarian Moderator (new)

rivka | 42000 comments Mod
Publication as part of a magazine is not separate publication of a short. Some authors also (or occasionally, instead) publish their shorts separately from the magazine publication.

Most do not. In which case, if they are listed separately on Goodreads, they will be merged into the most appropriate merge target (such as an anthology) available.


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